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U.S. IMO Team Leader and CMU faculty member Po-Shen Loh will join John Mackey (Associate Department Head of Mathematics), Mark Stehlik (Assistant Dean of Computer Science), Nick Hinkle (Senior Assistant Director of Admission), and David Altizio (current CMU student and AoPS 5000+ poster, a.k.a. djmathman) to discuss the excitement which is brewing at CMU.

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Facilitator: Po-Shen Loh

DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:30:01
Hello and welcome to the Carnegie Mellon Math Jam!
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:30:14
I'm Dave Patrick -- you may know me as an online instructor in the AoPS Online School, and as the author of some of the AoPS textbooks.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:30:24
I am especially pleased to have our guests from Carnegie Mellon joining us tonight, as I am a proud member of the CMU Class of 1992 (B.S. in Math/Computer Science and M.S. in Math). At least one of our guests tonight might remember me from when I was a student.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:30:46
Before I introduce our guests, let me explain about this classroom. This room is moderated, which means that all your questions and comments come to the moderators. We may share your comments with the whole room if we so choose.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:31:16
Now let me introduce our guests for the evening. (Their usernames are in bold as I introduce them.)
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:31:27
Po-Shen Loh (psloh) is a math enthusiast and evangelist, who works on projects across the math research/education spectrum. He is a math professor at Carnegie Mellon, the national coach of the USA International Math Olympiad team, and the founder of the startup expii.com. His math research focuses on Combinatorics, with particular interest in probabilistic arguments. He went to Caltech as an undergraduate thanks to a merit-based scholarship, and completed a masters degree in mathematics at the University of Cambridge under the Churchill Scholarship. He then went to Princeton for his Ph.D., and has been at Carnegie Mellon ever since.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:31:53
John Mackey (jmackey) barely graduated from high school, and went to a state college that was required to take all Ohio graduates. He did extraordinarily well, but decided to go to the University of Hawaii to learn more about Polynesian and Asian culture, as well as to learn surfing and develop a deeper understanding of math. Although people said he would never get a job, he was able to secure a John Wesley Young instructorship at Dartmouth, where he taught for 4 years. He moved on to be a Preceptor of math at Harvard from 2000-2003. Needing bigger challenges and cheaper real estate, he moved to Pittsburgh, PA, to see how many John Nashes could be produced at CMU during his career.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:32:16
Mark Stehlik (mjs-cmu) grew up in New York City and came to Carnegie Mellon in 1979 in order to get his Ph.D. so that he could teach Computer Science and leave Pittsburgh to teach in a "real" city (New York warps ones view that way). He never did finish his Ph.D., but has been teaching Computer Science as a member of the Carnegie Mellon faculty for over 30 years. In addition to teaching, Mark ran the Computer Science undergraduate program since its inception in 1988 and advised and graduated over 2,700 alumni. He has also taught at CMU's campus in Doha, Qatar where he spent the last 3 years as Associate Dean for Education in "the land of sand". He is now back in Pittsburgh teaching and advising and is also in charge of Alumni Engagement and Outreach.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:32:44
(I am one of those 2700 alumni!)
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:34:19
Nick Hinkle (nhinkle)  is a Senior Assistant Director of Admission in Carnegie Mellon's Office of Undergraduate Admission. He has been with CMU for one year and is originally from Michigan. While at CMU he has worked alongside many groups including faculty, athletic coaches and current students. During college, besides taking naps, Nick was a communication major and captain of the swim team (he doesn't miss the 5:30 am practices). Despite being a Michigan native, Nick loves living in Pittsburgh, in particular the great food. Most recently he ate at Tako in the Downtown area, where he had a taco with octopus! He thoroughly enjoys assisting families/students with the college admission process, having 7 years of experience in higher education (admission and college coaching), and is here to help answer any questions!
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:34:52
David Altizio (djmathman) is a freshman mathematics major at CMU and an avid Art of Problem Solving user for the past five years. His interest in mathematics is often attributed to a library book sale in 4th grade, when he noticed several previously untouched mathematics textbooks, bought them, and consequently learned the importance of attempting algebra before calculus. Over the years, he has been bestowed various acclaims and honors, including an USAMO qualification in senior year and the privilege of losing to a future USA IMO team member in his very first FTW game. Although he is no longer a high school math contest participant, he still contributes to the competition atmosphere in many back-end activities, including TA'ing for the AwesomeMath Summer Program and writing problems for various competitions. His motto in life is that every Olympiad Geometry problem can be solved without the use of coordinates.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:35:13
Thanks very much to all our guests for spending part of their evening with us tonight.
DPatrick 2015-10-13 19:35:20
Now, I'll turn the floor over to Po-Shen.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:35:24
Hello, everybody!
psloh 2015-10-13 19:35:30
It's a beautiful night out here in Pittsburgh, PA.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:35:35
And we're thrilled to share it with all of you on AoPS.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:35:38
Hello from Austin, TX!
psloh 2015-10-13 19:35:40
We're here in John Mackey's office, united by math and computer science, and a common interest in problem solving.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:35:45
Here's a problem that we like solving:
psloh 2015-10-13 19:35:51
How do you create the ideal college experience a math/science/tech enthusiast?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:35:57
Hint: The answer is different for each student!
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:01
... and that's the core of our approach at Carnegie Mellon University.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:06
On that note, let's switch from monologue to dialogue.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:09
This is now an AMA!
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:12
What interests you?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:15
What do you want to get out of your college experience?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:17
How can we help you visualize CMU?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:20
Fire away with questions on anything.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:23
Math, science, technology, college, contests, life... all fair game!
psloh 2015-10-13 19:36:27
I see the questions coming in. Here we go! We like a good typing challenge.
Gwena 2015-10-13 19:36:28
Hello!
michael.liang 2015-10-13 19:36:32
let the party start
mssmath 2015-10-13 19:36:52
To what extent does previous CS experience play a role in CS admissions?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:37:00
@mssmath- while CS/experience is nice to see for CS applicants, we are more focused on high level math (BC calculus and beyond)
Quaratinium 2015-10-13 19:37:02
What are we going to talk about tonight?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:37:04
Anything you like!
Quaratinium 2015-10-13 19:37:24
start!!!!!!!!!!
proztheboss 2015-10-13 19:37:41
YAY THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME
jrexmo 2015-10-13 19:38:40
Can freshman take whatever classes they want or is CMU strict on prerequisites?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:38:41
@jrexmo We work with you to find appropriate classes. Don't worry, you'll be taking challenging and stimulating courses from day one!
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:38:50
CS is theory, applications (AI, graphics, databases), hardware, robotics, machine learning, math, programming, lots of things.
pi37 2015-10-13 19:39:16
wait lol which IMO member
hoo013 2015-10-13 19:39:16
what subject does carnegie mellon specialize in?
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:39:18
Carnegie Mellon specializes in a ton of areas! That's one of the unique things about CMU which makes it awesome - not only do we have the #1 computer science school in the country arguably, but we also have an awesome drama/music program, not to mention that our math department is getting stronger by the year.
Kingofmath101 2015-10-13 19:39:28
I'm considering taking 15112 in the spring. What can I expect?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:39:29
Lot's of work! Dave Kosbie is a good friend of mine, and he even makes me do homeworks (and I'm not even in his class!)
TheMadHatter 2015-10-13 19:39:35
What are the opportunities for undergraduate research?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:39:36
@MadHatter: There are tons of opportunities for undergrad research. Proof is by the Pigeonhole Principle (sorry, I'm a combinatorialist). You see, our students are so employable that many many of them end up getting well-paying software/tech internships. Then, there are way more professors than students looking for research internships during the summer. It's a great opportunity to work directly with a professor. :)
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:39:38
@szhang incoming class size for CS is ~140
psloh 2015-10-13 19:40:18
@MadHatter: In general, many great universities have nice opportunities for research, and I'd recommend that you visit to ask them how their opportunities look.
Lillianz 2015-10-13 19:40:43
What is the Putnam team and Putnam training like?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:40:45
@Lillianz: The Putnam is an excuse to run a class entirely devoted to math problem solving.
popcorn1 2015-10-13 19:40:49
What is your favorite part of CMU?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:40:51
The awesome people and the wonky, hard-core friends of mine that are all working together!
Jacksu11111 2015-10-13 19:41:12
As a junior considering applying to CMU, I won’t have the 4 years of English courses listed in the course requirements. Will that be an issue? In addition, how will my application be viewed with respect to senior applications?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:41:16
@Jacksu1111 we have an Early Admission process for hs juniors. Typically these students have a diploma after the end of junior yr/meet their school's graduation requirements. Keep in mind you must be at least 16 to live on campus
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:41:19
We are a team, and I love working with the students, faculty and staff!
psloh 2015-10-13 19:41:28
@Lillianz: We have about 200 students a year involved in the Putnam, and although there is some competition at the end of it where CMU students do *really* well (http://www.math.cmu.edu/~ploh/2014-putnam-top500.pdf), that isn't the point. The point is to learn math problem solving skills.
mssmath 2015-10-13 19:41:33
How far does doing the USAMO and JMO serve in showing math experience?
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:41:34
USAMO and JMO experience is not at all even necessary in order to do well at CMU. We have individuals of all skill levels here - many people who have no math context experience at all thrive here. The experience is simply what you make of it
lasyasri 2015-10-13 19:41:45
Do they give out scholarships ?
zhangd 2015-10-13 19:41:50
What are some unique opportunities that SCS offers that other schools can't?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:41:53
@zhangd We have 7 departments in SCS (CS, Robotics, Machine Learning, HCI, Language TEchnologies, Institute for Software Research, and Comp Bio). Over 225 faculty and 600 really sharp undergrads. Hard to think of a better place to do CS!
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:42:58
@RQiu7 You can declare and change as you like, many people change all the way to their senior year (although I don't recommend it)
RQiu7 2015-10-13 19:43:03
when is the latest you can declare a major?
Gwena 2015-10-13 19:43:07
I was looking at your website and I saw that you have multiple colleges. Do you have to apply to a specific college or can you apply to the university as a whole?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:43:11
@gwena You apply to the college that houses your intended major (MCS for Math, SCS for CS). You can apply to up to 3, but first choice is important
TheMadHatter 2015-10-13 19:43:40
What, in your opinion, is the most unique club or activity at Carnegie Mellon?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:43:41
@madhatter synchronized walking club
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:43:41
Yes we award scholarship to those who are admitted and submit their CSS profile and FAFSA form. It is based on financial need and merit of the applicant
jh235 2015-10-13 19:44:00
do you superscore act?
jrexmo 2015-10-13 19:44:03
Are there lots of opportunities for work/internships in Pittsburgh? (tech companies)
psloh 2015-10-13 19:44:05
@jrexmo: There are more and more startups coming out of the CMU community. We just had an event last week on the startup scene (http://www.cmu.edu/cie/launch-cmu/). It's actually a nice place to build a new enterprise, because rent is low. Also, there's an enormous amount of talent. I see my classes hired at top companies every year. They have the talent to build the local ecosystem.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:44:07
We do not superscore ACT
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:44:16
What level math is needed for CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:44:16
We do superscore the CURRENT SAT
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:44:17
HIGH. Very HIGH!
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:44:24
What is the most important factor that CMU looks for when looking at applicants?
MathMomxbli 2015-10-13 19:44:25
For Canadian students, is need-blind or need aware at CMU? Thanks
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:44:27
@matthias12345 Evidence of intellectual horsepower and passion! We look for things that can't easily be measured by the SAT...
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:44:36
We are need-blind for all applicants
ksun48 2015-10-13 19:44:39
is it hard to get into CMU?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:44:40
@ksun: It is hard to get in if you forget your room key. Then you need to call John Berman.
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:44:51
Do test scores (SAT/ACT) or GPA matter mroe?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:44:56
Both are important
Mathwolf123 2015-10-13 19:44:58
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mssmath 2015-10-13 19:45:00
oh god that was funny
oiler8 2015-10-13 19:45:02
Who is John Berman?
jprosk 2015-10-13 19:45:16
That club sounds amazing.
lasyasri 2015-10-13 19:45:16
@rrusczyk Welcome.... Hope to see u at MC nationals
psloh 2015-10-13 19:45:16
@oiler8: John Berman was the Deputy Team Leader of the USA IMO Team this year.
mssmath 2015-10-13 19:45:25
MOP joke.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:45:34
We practice a holistic review process, meaning we look for academic strength, extra curricular involvement, essays, etc.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:45:50
@oiler8: I was referring to the fact that ksun was at MOP (which was at CMU this year), and that you had to find John Berman if you were locked out.
mssmath 2015-10-13 19:45:53
sadly I didn't make mop
raxu 2015-10-13 19:46:12
ksun
psloh 2015-10-13 19:46:17
@mssmath: That's completely fine. There is an enormous number of really strong people who don't ever go to MOP. Actually, many famous mathematicians never did math contests.
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 19:46:20
is it easy to transfer from math or tepper to scs?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:46:23
@mohanx Easy to minor, hard to transfer into!
LoneConquerorer 2015-10-13 19:46:24
What do you recommend students do or focus on if they want to achieve well in high school and to go to a good college, like CMU?
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:46:29
What is the acceptance rate at CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:46:33
Our overall acceptance rate last year was about 16%, some programs are more selective than others
psloh 2015-10-13 19:46:56
@mssmath: I really enjoy working with students who are not necessarily MOP students. Indeed, I think it's much more important to be thoroughly enthusiastic about math (and science/tech), rather than just to have experience with contests.
swimmerstar 2015-10-13 19:47:06
What percentage of girls are at CMU math and CS program?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:47:08
100%
Lillianz 2015-10-13 19:47:25
@psloh: WOW! You must have been an awesome coach
TheMadHatter 2015-10-13 19:47:30
@psloh: Thank you!
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:47:40
@LoneConqueror focus on your academics but have one or two things that distinguish you either academically or extra-curricularly. Again, we're looking for smart people with interesting abilities. Find your interest and do it well and provide evidence that you can!
popcorn1 2015-10-13 19:47:42
CMU is best at...
hoo013 2015-10-13 19:47:42
does cmu have medicine?
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 19:47:43
So many questions… so little time…
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:47:45
We do have a Health Professions Program! It is for ANY student interested in health related careers. Students get involved after they arrive to campus.
WaffleLord 2015-10-13 19:48:08
yay
frank_2016 2015-10-13 19:48:12
will i be able to compete against jmackey in a pull-up contest?
jh235 2015-10-13 19:48:12
i know some schools are more focused on "pointy" students, and my impression is that the same is true about CMU. Can you confirm?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:48:19
@frank Yes!!! Any time, brother! We like to go for excellence in physical, mental and spiritual dimensions here
liamuk 2015-10-13 19:48:26
Po: you somehow manage to balance the four full time jobs of teaching, research, expii, and championing us math education. How can I find time to do everything like you?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:48:32
@liamuk: The first trick is to multiply.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:48:37
24x7 = 168.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:48:41
That's actually a really big number!
psloh 2015-10-13 19:48:49
You do need to subtract about 56, but you still have 100+.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:48:54
From there, the rest is optimization.
Ssamtani 2015-10-13 19:48:59
so much time
psloh 2015-10-13 19:49:18
If you are doing something that you thoroughly enjoy (i.e., consider more fun than agar.io), then you will be able to create some pretty intense productivity.
Gwena 2015-10-13 19:49:23
Could you explain the admission process for homeschoolers in a bit more depth than is found on the website?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:49:25
Homeschool applicants are reviewed on an individual basis. You will want to refer to our admission site. We need the outline of your curriculum and a letter from whomever administered the education to the students. Standardized tests are still required.
psloh 2015-10-13 19:49:25
It also helps to walk *really* fast.
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 19:49:27
What if you don’t sleep at all
frank_2016 2015-10-13 19:49:32
Should I apply to CMU if I am a girl interested in math and science?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:49:36
@frank YES!!! Yes, yes! We have about 50% women math majors this year. We also have lots of women in CS!
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:49:41
150 acres
psloh 2015-10-13 19:49:41
If you don't sleep at all, you get more productivity for about 2 days. Then it goes down.
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 19:49:45
Then you have the full 168!
adik7 2015-10-13 19:49:46
how large is the campus?
michael.liang 2015-10-13 19:49:47
@psloh unfortunately, optimization is the hardest part
TradeMark 2015-10-13 19:49:57
what research opportunities for undergrads exist at CMU?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:49:59
Lots of undergrads do undergrad research. Our faculty like having smart students to work on stuff! Check out the CS faculty research guide...
escher123 2015-10-13 19:50:00
What makes CMU stand out as a school compared to other similar tech/math schools?
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:50:02
@escher: For me, the wide diversity of majors on campus. There are so many different types of people here, which makes the campus experience quite vibrant. On my dorm floor, there are music majors sided with CS majors and we all get together really well!
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:50:10
What is the most popular major at CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:50:17
College of Engineering is the largest
psloh 2015-10-13 19:50:32
Optimization is a pretty difficult thing to do. I actually spend about 3% of my time actively thinking about the optimization so that I can maximally apply the other 97%.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:50:34
School of Drama and School of Computer Sci are the most selective
jrexmo 2015-10-13 19:50:40
AGAR.IO!!!!
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 19:50:42
What could be more fun than agar.io???
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:50:44
@mathwhiz: math, of course
hoo013 2015-10-13 19:50:50
i cant believe i have that much time sometimes....
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:50:51
Does CMU prefer SAT or ACT?
hoo013 2015-10-13 19:50:55
thank you!
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:50:55
Either one
hoo013 2015-10-13 19:51:04
reading...
mssmath 2015-10-13 19:51:10
I still made USAMO so im happy. Also Psloh nice meeting you again, met you at nyc math team
liamuk 2015-10-13 19:51:21
@matthias12345 I knew like zero math coming in to CMU, and now I'm taking the same classes as IMO medalists. CMU's very good at taking you from 0-60 in 0.5 seconds.
eveningstarandlion 2015-10-13 19:51:23
For the extra curricular involvement, are we encouraged to spend energy into one activity or spread our extracurricular interests over a range of activities?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:51:26
I think it's more important to excel at a one or two extracurriculars rather than do lots of things in a shallow way...
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:51:30
Does CMU prefer the current or new SAT?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:51:31
Either one. For juniors and younger you will most likely take the new SAT
michael.liang 2015-10-13 19:51:48
@mathwhiz16 Then that means you are a college student.
jh235 2015-10-13 19:52:15
also, my question above was posted but didn't go answered ... "i know some schools are more focused on "pointy" students, and my impression is that the same is true about CMU. Can you confirm?"
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 19:52:18
Psloh, i remember meeting you at Nationals Mathcounts. I felt special
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:52:19
@jh235 I think we have a good balance between pointy and round...
reddragon644 2015-10-13 19:52:20
when will the tutoring start?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:52:22
We have an exceptional Academic Development Office. Earliest you can go there is second week of classes for one on one tutoring, small study groups, and review sessions.
hy2015 2015-10-13 19:52:25
Math!
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 19:52:27
@michael :) Not quite… because Candy Crush is more fun.
swimmerstar 2015-10-13 19:53:06
Is there really 100% girls at math and CS program?
yayups 2015-10-13 19:53:06
AP or IB?
adik7 2015-10-13 19:53:07
does CMU have a physics program?
oiler8 2015-10-13 19:53:07
Do you play agar.io?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:53:07
@yayups YES
psloh 2015-10-13 19:53:08
oiler8: No, but I think agar.io is genius. I really respect the designer, who was able to think of a way to make something amazingly addictive with super-intuitive gameplay rules.
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:53:10
@adik7: Of course! In fact, the assistant department head/undergraduate advisor of the Physics Department, Kunal Ghosh, is quite a character and an awesome guy
adik7 2015-10-13 19:53:12
How is the physics and biology department ranked in terms of the US or world?
hy2015 2015-10-13 19:53:14
Candy Crush? Nah. Math. Is. Way. Better.
hoo013 2015-10-13 19:53:14
nah.... reading tops it all off 4 me :p
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:53:14
Both are great! Couldn't tell you a world ranking but we offer some very interdisciplinary programs such as Computation Bio that really make us stand out. Great research opps in both areas!
csmath 2015-10-13 19:53:32
If I do a lot of extracurriculars not because I want to spread out but because I have genuine interest in all of them, is that a disdvantage if I might not have pursued one specific one greatly in depth?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:53:35
No - no disadvantage to a lot of extracurriculars, but leading/focusing in a few is still important...
mssmath 2015-10-13 19:53:39
Do you superscore SAT?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:53:42
YES
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:53:45
Not ACT
Gwena 2015-10-13 19:54:29
What is your police on SAT IIs?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:54:31
We require 2 SAT Subject tests for all academic colleges. See admission site for specifics.
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 19:54:32
What are the most popular major at CMU?
mssmath 2015-10-13 19:54:32
computational fianance, would you reccomend the school of CS or Math for undergrad?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:54:34
@mssmath Either!! They just want smart, motivated people!
chezbgone 2015-10-13 19:54:40
@po-shen Are you ever considering visiting another ARML location (specifically Iowa)? ;)
psloh 2015-10-13 19:54:42
@chezbgone2: I might! The issue is that I typically need to be out in DC right after ARML, and so I go to ARML with the Western PA team (which is coached by a CMU Math Ph.D. student), and go out of ARML with either the TJ or NY teams. So, PA ARML is my 24-hour layover.
TradeMark 2015-10-13 19:55:07
you said there was an interdisciplinary program for computational biology, is there also one for bioinformatics or is that included in the comp bio program?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:55:10
Comp Bio is one of the departments in SCS and houses the Comp Bio undergrad program. BioInformatics is part of that program...
psloh 2015-10-13 19:55:21
@chezbgone2: If the schedule changes in a future year, I might be able to visit another site!
Ssamtani 2015-10-13 19:55:22
Do you take transfer credits
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:55:23
This is on a case by case basis and is reviewed by faculty. We need course descriptions and course title and grade. You complete this after you are admitted.
Wiggle Wam 2015-10-13 19:55:56
Is the name of that PhD student Misha Lavrov by any chance?
jrexmo 2015-10-13 19:56:01
What are some of your guys' favorite courses?
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:56:03
@jrexmo: 15-251 ("Great Theoretical Ideas in Computer Science") and 21-242 ("Matrix Theory") are my two favorite courses so far. The former because it's hard (or maybe that's just because combo is hard, idk), the latter because we have some really interesting conversations in class
psloh 2015-10-13 19:56:03
@Wiggle: Yes!
matthias12345 2015-10-13 19:56:14
Does CMU prefer well-rounded applicants or specialized applicants?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:56:15
We like to see strengths in the following areas: academics, test scores, extracurricular involvement, essays, demonstrated interest. It is a holistic review process.
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:56:32
Wait Misha is my TA for Matrix Theorey (21-242) and he's such a boss
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:56:35
*Theory
TradeMark 2015-10-13 19:56:37
What is the acceptance rate at SCS?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:56:38
Last year, approx. 5%
hoo013 2015-10-13 19:56:45
im still in 8th grade, so are there any classes you guys would recommend me to take?
jprosk 2015-10-13 19:56:45
What is there for people who want to go into education (particularly for high school)?
michael.liang 2015-10-13 19:56:49
@jrexmo Putnam seminar is always a favorite
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:56:49
High schools need domain experts who are good teachers, especially in CS. We have a number of TA opportunities for our undergrads and quite a few have gone on to teach either at the secondary or post-secondary levels...
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 19:57:11
do u offer aid for ed?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:57:12
Yes, we offer financial aid to both ED and RD admitted students who apply for aid.
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 19:57:29
Are there any interesting CMU traditions?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:57:31
posting to the fence, buggy, carnival, kiltie band
droid347 2015-10-13 19:57:53
If we take rigorous post-AP courses at our school (such as AI, parallel computing, complex analysis, etc.) will CMU accept the classes or will we have to redo them?
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:57:55
@droid They are a great experience, but we will have you take complex analysis here with our folks.
djmathman 2015-10-13 19:58:07
By the way, if we don't answer your question after a long period of time, feel free to ask again! We're getting swamped with questions, and sometimes it's hard to keep up.
csmath 2015-10-13 19:58:16
Can you transfer between the colleges if you are unhappy with your major?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:58:18
Depends on how well you do in CMU courses, what courses you took at CMU and the space available in the college you are transferring into. It is not encouraged. Pick CMU if you will be happy in your enrolled program for 4 years.
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 19:58:25
If you want to major in EECS then should you apply to the College of Engineering or CS?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:58:28
EE is part of the ECE major, and there are a few CS courses required for ECE as well. If you want CS, apply CS; if you want EE, apply ECE/CIT
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 19:58:30
Are there entrepreneurial opportunities at CMU?
Msu347 2015-10-13 19:58:34
Carnegie is my first choice, but I was unable to interview during the summer... will the interview be a major factor?
psloh 2015-10-13 19:58:35
@youngbood4ever: Yes! There is a center which helps people with entrepreneurship ideas. I also help to talk to people who have ideas. After starting expii.com, I got some experience the hard way. It's been an extremely interesting learning experience going through the whole process of building a startup from the ground. If you are interested in entrepreneurship, with a background in math/CS, and you come here, I'd be very happy to personally help you out.
jmackey 2015-10-13 19:58:36
@MSU Drop Po and I an email, let's get you to campus and you interview then!
pi37 2015-10-13 19:58:50
@Po consider leaving ARML with the CT team
chezbgone 2015-10-13 19:59:08
How much math experience (contest/college/research) would be optimal if we were to attend CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:59:09
For CS, we love to see high level math experience. BC calc and beyond, AIME, AMC, math team, etc.
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 19:59:12
@msu347 - interviews are helpful but not mandatory. You can also see if an alum can interview where you live...
liamuk 2015-10-13 19:59:39
@jrexmo Putnam is the best class. Of all the classes that @michael.liang is registered for, it's the only one he regularly attends
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 19:59:41
do you offer aids during early admission?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:59:42
Yes
nhinkle 2015-10-13 19:59:50
Apply through the FAFSA and CSS profile
psloh 2015-10-13 19:59:58
@pi37: I try not to do the same thing too many times, so perhaps I will leave with another team in the future
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:00:07
@liamuk Almost true. I also go to Math Studies Algebra.
hoo013 2015-10-13 20:00:31
how many design majors are there at CMU?
frank_2016 2015-10-13 20:00:31
What advantages is there in applying early to CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:00:33
about 30-40 design students enroll per year as freshmen who are pursuing the BDes program
WaffleLord 2015-10-13 20:00:45
:happy:
hoo013 2015-10-13 20:00:47
posting to fence? kiltie band?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:00:49
@hoo013 CMU traditions; google is your friend...
1234alert 2015-10-13 20:01:10
Can students re-apply to different schools via RD once they are rejected ED?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:01:11
Yes, but you cannot re-apply to the program you were rejected from. You can apply to 2 more programs.
frank_2016 2015-10-13 20:01:12
Is Ray Li fat?
AlcumusGuy 2015-10-13 20:01:12
Do you accept dual enrollment credits or do we have to retake those classes too?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:01:13
@alcumus We *can* accept them if you don't use them for HS requirements, and we accept *some*, but not all.
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:01:14
@frank_2016 I applied to CMU early and I got in. I'm not sure if I would have if I hadn't...
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:01:34
@frank_2016 Ray Li is not fat.
TheMadHatter 2015-10-13 20:01:53
Does CMU recommend taking certain SAT Subject Tests?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:01:55
Yes, we are specific based on the college/school you are applying to. Please check out admission site.
Gwena 2015-10-13 20:02:09
What are dorms like? How many people are in each dorm room?
danepale 2015-10-13 20:02:13
Can international students enroll in graduate programs if they haven't been attending undergraduate studies in the U.S., and if they can, what are the opportunities for financial aid?
AndrewKwon97 2015-10-13 20:02:13
Are there currently any bagpipe majors at CMU?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:02:15
@andrewkwon I believe that the set is non-empty!
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:02:15
@Gwena: the dorms are very different in nature, so it's hard to give a specific answer to this, but in general most dorms are doubles (some are triples - or at least that's what happened this year due to overflow) and there's enough room to live comfortably.
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:02:18
@danepale International students can (and do) enroll in our graduate programs. PhD programs are fully funded; MS not...
eveningstarandlion 2015-10-13 20:02:23
Should we do a little bit of self learning? My school's curriculum is getting boring and useless.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:02:24
@eveningstarandlion: I think that self learning is really important. Actually, when I was in college and grad school, I was still spending lots of time self-learning. Today, I don't have any teachers, and so I spend all my time self-learning. Ultimately, you will need to pick up this skill, and so it is a great idea to start early. You are SUPER lucky to have so many free online resources now, so it's even easier!
jh235 2015-10-13 20:02:30
how do you view high school research in the application process?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:02:33
Yes, you can submit an abstract through a maker portfolio on the Common App
FlakeLCR 2015-10-13 20:02:42
hi poshen
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:02:44
It is nice to see but not required
SkyFox163 2015-10-13 20:03:32
Do you like math.stackexchange?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:03:35
I am more of a stack overflow person myself...
newluvmath 2015-10-13 20:03:42
how is tapper school of management
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:03:44
It is "Tepper" and it's a great school! Very quantitative, everyone in the program takes multivariable calc. Many find jobs in consulting and finance. IBM and Deliotte are major employers.
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:04:02
If we are juniors now you will still accept the old SAT right?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:04:04
Yes, new or old
psloh 2015-10-13 20:04:13
@eveningstarandlion: Also, self-learning is tons of fun. You get to explore things at your own pace, and go into topics that are way outside high school curricula. For example, I decided to figure out how to write computer games. http://www.math.cmu.edu/~ploh/em-dosbox/aa4.html
escher123 2015-10-13 20:04:14
favorite memory from CMU?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:04:17
@escher123 Wearing my kilt to class!
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:04:28
stackoverflow ftw lol
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:04:29
do you guys have BS+Ms program in CS or math or engineering?
hy2015 2015-10-13 20:04:30
When should we start applying?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:04:31
@mohan We have a masters honors program that you can complete along with your BS in 4 years, if accepted!
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:04:32
Senior yr... Nov. 1 is ED deadline, Jan. 1 is RD deadline
liamuk 2015-10-13 20:04:41
@AndrewKwon97 I think there's one in my class
raxu 2015-10-13 20:04:50
@Wiggle Wam: he publish with Mikhail Lavrov... I wonder why.
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:04:54
@Liopleurodon I believe the most popular major is ECE. The engineering school is definitely the biggest.
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:05:08
@escher123 Steam tunnels!
liamuk 2015-10-13 20:05:08
@escher123 steam tunnels
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:05:14
@mjs-cmu Stack overflow? Sweet! What languages do you program?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:05:16
I have programmed in way too many languages, going back to FORTRAN and LISP. Now mostly Python and Java...
aadavi 2015-10-13 20:05:38
Are SAT subject tests important?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:05:40
It is part of our holistic review process. Two are required for majority of programs. Check our admission site for requirements.
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:05:44
Do you get admitted to a college or do you have to declare a specific major within that college?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:05:46
@youngblood You get into a college, and declare your major later!
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:06:05
A whole bunch of 2400's were not offered admission this year...
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:06:09
I took math 2 subject test in freshmen year. does it stil count when I apply next year?
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:06:10
Does admission care about SAT scores of 2300+? In general how are SAT scores used?
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:06:11
@mohan: Yes - I used my Math 2 subject test score when I applied to CMU
Plazz 2015-10-13 20:06:14
@Psloh How does the difficulty and rigor of Maxtrix Theory, Vector Analysis, and Mathematical Studies compare to Caltech math classes?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:06:16
@plazz: I try to be professional when speaking about other universities, in the sense that I try not to say negative things about others even if true.
newluvmath 2015-10-13 20:06:26
What are ED and RD?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:06:27
@newluv Early and regular decision, repectively!
SkyFox163 2015-10-13 20:06:37
what is the average ACT score at CMU
psloh 2015-10-13 20:06:38
@plazz: However, I am very happy to say that I think that those core Freshman+Sophomore classes that you have listed are absolutely rock solid.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:06:39
Depends on the college/school you are considering. CS last year was 35 ACT avg for admitted students
Ssamtani 2015-10-13 20:07:16
Do you prefer SAT or ACT
csmath 2015-10-13 20:07:16
Why is ACT not superscore? Just curious
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:07:18
Some sections overlap with material so it is not meant to be super scored
psloh 2015-10-13 20:07:25
In fact, it was a design principle to make sure that they would be at the level necessary to challenge the top students. Our top students are pretty strong. There are some lists of rankings out there which show how our top students compare to Caltech's, or others.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:07:26
either test, no preference
Gwena 2015-10-13 20:07:55
What is superscore-ing?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:07:58
Taking the highest area of each time you took the SAT to make a new total score
danepale 2015-10-13 20:08:02
Are there any international undergraduates which are IMO/IOI medallists at CMU?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:08:03
And so, I'm very happy to say that I would - with full confidence - tell anyone that they'd be well-served in those CMU courses, which are taught by hand-picked instructors.
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:08:04
@danepale: Yes, actually. I know of quite a few people who either were IMO medalists or otherwise performed very highly on their respective countrys' math olympiads.
Gwena 2015-10-13 20:08:05
So CMU offers early decision not early action?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:08:07
@gwena Yes - ED and RD, no Early Action...
AndrewKwon97 2015-10-13 20:08:42
@danepale there are certainly IOI medallists here as well
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:08:43
Just curious, but what is the most represented state in terms of where students come from?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:08:45
@youngblood Hawaii. Definitely the Aloha State!
Lillianz 2015-10-13 20:08:48
Since at CMU international students and non-U.S. citizens are not eligible for financial aid and payment plans, then are we eligible for scholarships?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:08:50
No financial aid, including scholarships, current exists for international students
liamuk 2015-10-13 20:09:04
The number of SAT and ACT questions being asked indicates to me that there is something fundamentally broken about how these standardized tests work...
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:09:05
@mackey - NFW, probably NY...
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:09:22
@danepale Alyazeed Basyoni from Saudi Arabia
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:09:26
GO NY!
raxu 2015-10-13 20:09:29
How is the food quality there?
liamuk 2015-10-13 20:09:31
@danepale Alyazeed Basyoni is in the sophomore class
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:09:31
So good! I've eaten everything from crepes to sushi on campus. 30+ different eateries on campus
liamuk 2015-10-13 20:09:49
@danepale he's sitting across from me
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:10:11
Sorry MJS and Youngblood, I thought that you said "The most respected state"
psloh 2015-10-13 20:10:18
There are $11^2$ users in this room right now.
newluvmath 2015-10-13 20:10:20
Do the volunteer hours matters for admission?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:10:24
@newluvmath Volunteering is a good plus
hoo013 2015-10-13 20:10:26
how many credits minimum to get in?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:10:29
We look for you to meet your high school's grad requirements. Particularly for CS and Engineering we like advanced STEM courses.
liamuk 2015-10-13 20:10:38
@raxu very very very hit or miss
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:11:18
@raxu: it's worth noting that the food system here at CMU is very different than it is at other schools, in the sense that we have no dining halls. Instead, there are various eatery-ish places on campus (some in the University Center, some in the academic buildings). The amount of variety here in that regard is quite nice
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:11:26
What classes/tests should I take in high school to have a higher chance of getting into CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:11:28
Most advanced courses are always a plus...AP/IB HL/dual enrollment, whatever is available at your school. Standardized tests are required and listed on our admission site.
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:11:31
@raxu I would recommend getting a small meal plan. The food definitely gets old really fast.
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:11:36
Red 9 FTW
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:11:48
What is the environment like near Carnegie Mellon?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:11:51
@youngblood no beaches, Pitt is a mile west, but there is a decent baseball team, and a pretty good football team (so I'm told). It's got a lot of small-town about it... Kind of grows on you...
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:12:02
How to credits transfer?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:12:03
@mssmath You submit credit request forms and we determine whether the course in question is equivalent to our version. We are reasonable, because we want to put you into challenging, but not impossible, classes!
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:12:11
what should I do if I experience depression and screw up my grades last year?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:12:14
You can note any special circumstances in your additional comments section of the Common Application.
Ssamtani 2015-10-13 20:13:04
does cmu have sports programs
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:13:07
http://athletics.cmu.edu/landing/index
chezbgone 2015-10-13 20:13:08
How much free time would one have in general? How is the work load?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:13:10
@chezbgone2: The amount of free time in all top tech universities (CMU, Caltech, MIT, the like) is actually up to you. You are free to choose to take fewer courses. I actually recommend that to the people I work with. If you take less, you actually can learn more deeply. And, you have time to explore non-academic extra-curriculars which will help you long-term.
eveningstarandlion 2015-10-13 20:13:11
Would there be "breaktime?" I know at IMSA, every Wednesday you take a day off from the overload of homework and everything, so is there like a break day?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:13:13
@eveningstarandlion Every day there is a moratorium on classes from 4:30 - 6:30; no days off though, for students or faculty until mid-sem break or winter break...
hy2015 2015-10-13 20:13:16
Alcumus!!!
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:13:20
@mohanxue612 What ifs… So many possibilities…
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:13:34
what is the average weighted gpa of people accepted into CMU
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:13:35
We unweight ALL GPA's...don't worry if your school has a different grading model, we saw transcripts from 40+ countries last yr; we have a way of calculating it. Avg uw GPA for admitted CS was 3.93 last yr, 3.86 for Mellon College of Sci
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:14:01
thanks!
szhang7853 2015-10-13 20:14:33
How big is the CMU campus?
Ssamtani 2015-10-13 20:14:33
How big is the cmu campus
matthias12345 2015-10-13 20:14:43
Do you recommend any specific high school courses?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:14:45
If considering engineering, CS or Mellon College of Sci at CMU, then definitely take advanced level STEM courses...AP physics C, BC calc, AP chem, etc. (or HL's at IB schools, or dual enrollment)
psloh 2015-10-13 20:14:50
It takes approximately 3 minutes to run across from end-to-end.
MathStudent2002 2015-10-13 20:14:51
What's Red 9?
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:14:53
@MS2002: It's one of the meal plans we have on campus. Different meal plans have different ratios of fixed blocks to flex dollars.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:15:11
(Which is really nice because you can get to class in a hurry.)
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:15:21
do most students have calc bc/equivalent completed in entry?
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:15:22
@eveningstarandlion Breaktime is Saturday and Sunday for most students.
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:15:23
@rmehtany Many CS admits have BC calc (gets you out of Calc I/II).
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:15:35
What is the tastiest thing you’ve eaten on campus?
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:15:37
@mathwhiz16: The crepes in the University Center are SO GOOD omg
psloh 2015-10-13 20:15:45
@eveningstarandlion: Also, breaktime includes 4:30 - 6:30pm every weekday. That is so that people can spend time on sports, like the Putnam.
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:16:00
what is a good gpa to strive for in order to get into CS
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:16:01
the highest you can achieve - we have no minimum...
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:16:13
What classes/tests/math competitions should I take in high school to increase my chance of getting into CMU?
SkyFox163 2015-10-13 20:16:15
HL Math and BC Calc is so boring and slow! What should I do?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:16:15
Advanced STEM courses for the CS, engineering and mellon college of sic programs. Standardized tests are required, see admission site. AMC and AIME are great for math applicants and CS applicants.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:16:16
@SkyFox163: You should try to reform the entire system, single-handedly!
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:16:20
do you have a gym on campus?how is it?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:16:22
@mohan Yes, a couple. They are very good, actually!!
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:16:26
what is the average weighted gpa of someone accepted into CS
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:16:30
3.93
psloh 2015-10-13 20:16:40
@SkyFox163: ... that would be the ideal action, which some of us are working on.
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:16:51
If math was a sport, I would be the most athletic person in my school…
psloh 2015-10-13 20:17:00
@mathwhiz16: Awesome!!!
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:17:03
lol
oiler8 2015-10-13 20:17:05
lol
InCtrl 2015-10-13 20:17:13
I know that volunteering hours is a huge part in many students' curriculis vitis, how much does CMU value that?
oiler8 2015-10-13 20:17:15
Double lol
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:17:17
It is one area of extra curricular involvement we like to see...we also like to see leadership and out of class recognition
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:17:19
@mathwhiz1 Buy chipotle from off campus, bring it on campus, and eat it.
Lillianz 2015-10-13 20:17:30
Do can internationals get scholarships?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:17:30
@michael.liang: and they're building a Chipotle across the street now!
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:17:31
No
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:17:32
When do you have to declare your major by?
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:17:33
just saying, you guys are doing a lot better job at getting to the questions than the MITer's
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:17:37
Since you apply to the college that houses your major, you commit in April of your freshman year. About 10% will change majors, though...
psloh 2015-10-13 20:17:43
@Rmehtany: Thanks! We type fast.
RQiu7 2015-10-13 20:17:44
is CMU need-blind?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:17:45
Yes
oiler8 2015-10-13 20:17:46
What is the weirdest experience you have had at CMU?
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:17:46
if math was food, i'd be very fat
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:17:47
@oiler8 Having the President of the University come to my office to talk with Po and me about life, in general
psloh 2015-10-13 20:17:54
(It helps to use a mechanical keyboard.)
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:17:57
@mathwhiz16 Math is sport.
eveningstarandlion 2015-10-13 20:17:59
That would be a common theme for many of us if math was a sport
smuthanna 2015-10-13 20:18:03
Will math contests be useful?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:18:05
Yes.
mathguy623 2015-10-13 20:18:15
@kjmathew19 you are
oiler8 2015-10-13 20:18:22
Well... I need to go now. Nice talking with you!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:18:24
@smuthanna: Math Contests
psloh 2015-10-13 20:18:28
@oiler: We'll miss you!
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:18:36
thanks!
oiler8 2015-10-13 20:18:36
Bye!
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:18:39
@michael.liang Life is sport. Therefore everything is sport. Therefore everyone is super athletic.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:18:53
@smuthanna: I think that Math contests will help you think more deeply and more quickly about many things. Someday, you'll apply those skills to non-math activities.
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:19:08
Can you double major or switch majors?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:19:09
@youngblood YES. Many people double major.
Ssamtani 2015-10-13 20:19:16
do you have any foreign language programs
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:19:18
@ssamtani yes, Chinese, Japanese, German, French, Arabic (and others)
psloh 2015-10-13 20:19:25
The winner of last year's PennApps Hackathon just walked into our office here.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:19:34
We have no minimums for testing. Last year the middle 50% range SAT for admitted students into CS was 730-800CR, 790-800M, 740-800W, for Mellon college of Sci it was 680-760CR, 740-800M, 690-780W
MathMomxbli 2015-10-13 20:19:39
Any suggestion on mimnimum SAT score required?
Henry12345 2015-10-13 20:19:57
I heard that making it to AIME iis more impressive than geting 2400 on the SAT. Is that true?
Guest-094528 2015-10-13 20:20:03
What is CM's athletic recruitment like?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:20:05
@Guest Not as effective as our math and cs major recruitment, but not bad ;)
psloh 2015-10-13 20:20:10
I find the AIME pretty impressive. I don't run admissions though.
jh235 2015-10-13 20:20:11
can we not submit full research papers?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:20:13
We prefer just the abstract
psloh 2015-10-13 20:20:19
However, I also find a perfect SAT impressive too.
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:20:23
can you major CS and math?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:20:24
Yes - the CS program requires a minor, so lots of CS students minor/double in Math and same the other way...
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:20:37
Who are some of CMU's biggest rivals ?
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:20:38
@jrexmo: A certain three letter acronym in Boston that shall not be named....
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:20:54
Is early action restrictive?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:20:55
We do not offer Early Action, only ED and RD. ED is binding.
chezbgone 2015-10-13 20:21:03
How do you feel about taking college courses at nearby universities during high school?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:21:03
Ultimately, I think that any way of seriously distinguishing yourself is impressive. For example, if you can eat 62 hot dogs in 10 minutes, I'd be very impressed.
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:21:06
@chezbgone2 they better be good!!!
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:21:16
MIT
Ssamtani 2015-10-13 20:21:17
MIT
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:21:38
How do ED and RD acceptance percentages differ?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:21:40
Percentage for ED goes up; however, academic quality of the applicants (comparing ED to RD admits) is about the same.
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:21:46
@mssmath I'm doing that!
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:21:46
@mssmath You need to get A's and B's in introductory CS classes, and do about half of the major before being considered.
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:21:50
if a math major how can you major in CS?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:21:51
You can minor or double major if interested...
Gwena 2015-10-13 20:21:55
Is early decision application binding?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:21:56
Yes
hjklhjklhjkl2008 2015-10-13 20:22:00
is USAMTS useful?
eveningstarandlion 2015-10-13 20:22:08
Do you prefer SAT to ACT when admitting more people in?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:22:10
Either one
psloh 2015-10-13 20:22:22
@hj: Yes! It's a great opportunity to have practice working on proofs.
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:22:26
(USAMTS must be useful)
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:22:49
what is the avg SAT score for CS and Engineering?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:22:52
Above 700 in each area is competitive. We have not minimums for test scores though.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:23:10
@hj: In general, whenever someone runs a free math contest, you should take advantage of the opportunity. Many of these things are done by volunteers or non-profits, sponsored by charitable donations.
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:23:37
how important is gpa in the admissions process
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:23:38
It is an important aspect to academics but we practice a holistic review (aka we review all aspects of an applicant before making a decision)
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:23:56
Is an interview required?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:23:57
No, 20% of applicants do an interview
Knin2820 2015-10-13 20:24:03
What non-math and science classes are good for admissions? Like, what level of a foreign language, how much history, etc.
VitaminBSimplex 2015-10-13 20:24:03
Is a high school diploma required for admission?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:24:04
@knin2820 each program has various requirements for history, etc. no one right answer here...
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:24:05
What does that mean?
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:24:05
The ratios of fixed blocks to flex dollars part.
SkyFox163 2015-10-13 20:24:08
what are some free math contests?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:24:09
@SkyFox163: I include "not so expensive" along with Free. In that sense, basically every math contest (AMC, university-run math contests, online math contests, etc.) are all great options!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:24:35
For example, I typically frequent contests run by Berkeley, Harvard-MIT, Princeton, and I'll also be at CMU's contest next spring.
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:24:39
Go ELMO and OMO and NIMO!
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:24:46
would taking college courses in high school(Multivarible Calculus,Linear algebra,CSIII) be transferred into college credit?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:24:48
@mohan If you don't use them for HS requirements, then we can consider them, but we have 4 different versions of multivariable calc, 4 different versions of matrix/linear algebra, and we would prefer that you take them here. That said, they are good practice.
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:24:50
@mathwhiz: Blocks are liked fixed meals with fixed dollar amounts depending on the time of day. Flex dollars are essentially imaginary currencies that you can use at any time of day.
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:24:52
what if I mess up my sophomore year grades because I was experiencing depression?
smuthanna 2015-10-13 20:24:52
How do you treat an international applicant who is a US citizen - will he be considered a domestic applicant? In what pool will his application be loooked at
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:24:54
US citizens are domestic not international. It's based on citizenship not where you reside.
Guest-094528 2015-10-13 20:24:55
Do you guys prefer well rounded students, or students with a "spike"
psloh 2015-10-13 20:25:09
@Guest: I like students who are so spiky all over that they're round.
yaredboy 2015-10-13 20:25:25
Hello fellow mathletes!
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:25:32
@mssmath: Speaking of which, there's a NIMO competition this Friday that everyone should go to!
Knin2820 2015-10-13 20:25:57
Does being a National Merit (Semi)finalist strongly affect your chances to get into the college?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:25:59
For some schools it might, at CMU you can list it as an achievement and we will take it into account. it is not a major factor though.
zhangd 2015-10-13 20:26:04
What are some projects in the robotics department that undergrads can take part of?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:26:06
@Guest: More seriously, I think it's important to maintain a good baseline level on many skills, while pushing hard on extraordinary areas.
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:26:08
@zhangd I had a student last year work on the vision system for a lunar rover - there are *lots* of cool robotics projects that undergrads get involved with. CMU alums have contributed to the Mars rover as well!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:26:19
@Guest: for example, have you seen a Koosh ball before? Or does that reference date me?
Eugenis 2015-10-13 20:26:26
Is Carnegie Mellon decent at the putnam?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:26:32
@Eugenis: NO.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:26:42
@Eugenis: Carnegie Mellon is awesome at the Putnam.
mathguy623 2015-10-13 20:26:47
A well-rounded class of pointy/spiky students? That's what I heard colleges like these like.
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:26:48
@mathguy We also appreciate smooth manifolds without boundaries and non-orientable students ;)
LoneConquerorer 2015-10-13 20:26:49
Can you list the things you look for from highest to lowest weight what accepting a student: GPA, ACT/SAT, Community service, Extra-curricular, achievements(academic or non academic), overall personality/quarks.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:26:50
We want strength in all the areas listed. We are looking for the best! This is part of our holistic review process.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:27:03
@Eugenis: But as math folks, we like to reference hard statistics, like this one:
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:27:04
what is a good GPA to strive for in order to get into CS
psloh 2015-10-13 20:27:08
@Eugenis: http://www.math.cmu.edu/~ploh/2014-putnam-top500.pdf
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:27:09
4.0
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:27:10
Wow does that mean like continuous everywhere but differentiable nowhere? @poshen
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:27:12
@Eugenis We are #2.
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:27:12
@jrexmo: We're even more interesting than those types of functions - in a good way!
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:27:26
Hey, as they say, first is the worst, second is the best!
newluvmath 2015-10-13 20:27:32
what is Dual enrollment?
chezbgone 2015-10-13 20:27:32
As a math-focused student, I would say that my English/History abilities are slightly sub-par. Should I continue to work on math/cs or would it be best for me to attempt to do better in English and history?
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 20:27:32
Can you describe CMU in 1 word?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:27:33
@Liopleurodon yes
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:27:34
Some high schools allow you to take college courses in your local area while in high school
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:27:35
Amazingly enough, being able to communicate is really important, both technically and non-technically. So work on that English...
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:27:52
how do you "unweight" gpa?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:27:54
We have our ways...
psloh 2015-10-13 20:28:12
@Eugenis: As you can see, the number of CMU students in the top 500 last year was larger than the sum of the next two schools' numbers...
Eugenis 2015-10-13 20:28:18
What types of students does the school attract? Math? Science? English?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:28:19
@Eugenis really good ones who want to work with other really good ones...
yaredboy 2015-10-13 20:28:20
jprosk 2015-10-13 20:28:24
What is this putnam thing everyone keeps talking about?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:28:35
@jprosk: The Putnam is the university-level analogue of the Math Olympiads.
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 20:28:40
Jmackey, you sound like my art teacher............
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:28:41
@Lio Honestly, I think that math and art are really close in some metric.
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 20:28:59
What are the demographics for CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:29:00
This year's fr class...31% Asian American, 20% international, 16% African American/Hispanic/Native American...almost all states represented and 40+ countries!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:29:10
@jprosk: However, at CMU we don't approach the Putnam like a math contest (in the way a high school math team approaches their competitions). Instead, I use it as an excuse to talk about interesting math problems.
nosaj 2015-10-13 20:29:15
Do achievements in state math contests influence one's application much?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:29:16
Always great to see!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:29:20
For example, today we were talking about the convergence/divergence of:
psloh 2015-10-13 20:29:35
$\sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{1}{n \log n}$
psloh 2015-10-13 20:29:38
vs
psloh 2015-10-13 20:29:47
$\sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{1}{n (\log n)^2}$
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:29:52
how much does being valecdoctrian help?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:29:53
We definitely like to see high class rank...most admitted students are in top 10% of their class.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:29:53
We then moved on to compare:
mathwizn 2015-10-13 20:30:06
What departments do you feel CMU excels in?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:30:06
$\sum_{n=100}^\infty \frac{1}{n \log n \log \log n}$
psloh 2015-10-13 20:30:07
vs
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:30:13
CS is routinely ranked #1 (tied with a couple other schools); Math is outstanding; Engineering is top ten, our College of Fine Arts is world class (lots of alums from Drama in LA and on Broadway). So quite a few!
mathwhiz16 2015-10-13 20:30:14
What is the tastiest thing you’ve eaten on campus?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:30:15
Chocolate and banana crepe!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:30:20
$\sum_{n=100}^\infty \frac{1}{n \log n (\log \log n)^2}$.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:30:34
These are not math contest problems, but they were inspired by the topic of "Convergence" on the Putnam.
SkyFox163 2015-10-13 20:30:42
can you post LaTeX in here?
szhang7853 2015-10-13 20:30:54
How many people came from Colorado in this year's freshman class?
smuthanna 2015-10-13 20:30:55
Can you tell me what special requirements are there for physics applicants?
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:30:56
@szhang I don't know, but there is a young man from Colorado by the name of Liam Mazurowski who is going to win prizes in math.
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:30:57
High STEM prep in high school is a great plus, also strong scores in math/sci areas of standardized tests
psloh 2015-10-13 20:31:11
Proof by picture: $\LaTeX$
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:31:27
is there chinese food?
newluvmath 2015-10-13 20:31:28
what was the highest weighted GPA at CMU
smuthanna 2015-10-13 20:31:28
For an IB school - what is the average gpa you admit into science or CS?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:31:28
@kjmathew19 Yes - of a sort, on campus and a lot of good places off...
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:31:30
Around 6-7
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:31:34
The first two don;t converge
Wiggle Wam 2015-10-13 20:31:55
Have any homeschooled students been admitted to CMU?
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:31:55
The first converges, second doesn't.
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:31:57
@wiggleWam Yes, we have admitted home-schooled students every year...
yayups 2015-10-13 20:32:02
wolfram aplha i suppose
psloh 2015-10-13 20:32:11
@yayups: There are better ways, and that's what we learned today in class.
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:32:40
are the permanent residents considered the citizens?Do we still need to take language tests even if I stayed in USA over 4 years?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:32:44
@mohanxue612 You need to take TOEFL is English is not your native language
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:32:46
Is it integral test? They all work really well in these cases.
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:32:50
Also integral test is cool
flamesofpi 2015-10-13 20:32:51
how difficult is it to transfer?
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:32:53
are there any famous alumni from CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:32:53
For a transfer applicant (someone who already attended college elsewhere), the process is just as selective as high school applicants. To transfer from one program to another (within CMU), is based on CMU grades, courses taken and space in the program you're transferring into
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:32:54
@kjmathew Yes. David Patrick
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:33:08
cool
jmackey 2015-10-13 20:33:18
Also, John Nash.
VitaminBSimplex 2015-10-13 20:33:30
John Nash
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:33:30
mathguy623 2015-10-13 20:33:33
David Patrick is author of some aops books right?
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:33:34
how do you account for volutneering hours. How does it factor in
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:33:36
We see it on your common app should you list it. Great to see but everyone has NHS, so please go beyond that.
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:33:45
really? NASH!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:33:51
YES!
mathguy623 2015-10-13 20:34:13
rip nash
Plazz 2015-10-13 20:34:14
Will applying to MCS (for math) as a first choice and SCS as a second choice hurt my chances of getting into MCS as opposed to only applying to MCS?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:34:16
Not necessarily...make sure in your CMU supplement essay you give compelling reasons for both programs!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:34:42
... Just as an early warning: we had a huge number of questions, but we're going to have to close down in about 5 minutes.
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:34:45
About Ed... Can I apply to ED and EA, or does ED restrict everything else
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:34:46
We do not offer Early Action
psloh 2015-10-13 20:34:58
If you have any last questions (or ones that we didn't answer yet), please fire them off before we close.
TeamUSA1 2015-10-13 20:35:03
Does leadership play a role in admission factor such as founder/president of a club, student organization executive president, team captain, etc.?
hy2015 2015-10-13 20:35:35
Do you have to write an essay?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:35:37
Yes, it's the best ;)
youngblood4ever 2015-10-13 20:35:50
do you look at weighted or unweighted gpa
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:35:51
UW
psloh 2015-10-13 20:36:04
@TEAMUSA: I don't manage admissions, but I'll add my two cents about how important leadership is in general. I think that if you are really strong yourself, that's great! And you can then achieve the output of a maximum of 168 hours of your own productivity per week. However, if you are also able to inspire 1000 people to work together on a common cause, the multiplier effect overtakes the individual.
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:36:16
About Ed... Can I apply to ED and EA, or does ED restrict everything else (EDIT: EA TO OTHER SCHOOLS)
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:36:18
If you apply ED to CMU and we accept you, you rescind your apps elsewhere...
TeamUSA1 2015-10-13 20:36:59
Does coming from a competitive school serve as a disadvantage as class rank plays a role?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:37:01
No, great school equals great academic opportunities. Class rank is one of MANY academic indicators we use.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:37:07
@TEAMUSA: I personally think that the most effective way to lead is to lead the charge personally, working on all of the challenges alongside others, as opposed to just telling others what to do. So, it's then important to simultaneously have mad skills yourself, as well as great leadership skills to multiply your output.
Eugenis 2015-10-13 20:37:21
Thanks psloh for answering my questions BTW!
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:37:49
Hmmm, not sure, that's a tough one...largest enrolling states this year were 1. CA, 2. NY, 3. PA
mathguy623 2015-10-13 20:37:50
do they take into account that AP classes may have lower gpa's?
Royalreter1 2015-10-13 20:37:52
What is the average weekly coursework load for CMU undergrads?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:37:52
AP/IB and other similar courses are generally a plus...
qy8888 2015-10-13 20:37:58
How many people from Indiana are in this year's freshman class?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:38:04
There are $5^3$ people in this room now!
jag 2015-10-13 20:38:18
What is NHS?
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:38:18
how does other extracurricular activities such as all state band comparing to math activities help u the chance of getting into mcs or scs?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:38:19
Nat'l Honors Society
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:38:21
@Royalreter: the coursework here is pretty hard, but it's not impossibly hard to manage. In particular, I have a lot of time to have fun, especially with friends on my floor.
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:38:54
So if i apply in the fall to CMU can I also apply to other schools?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:38:56
Yes, but you are only suppose to apply to one school ED (Early Decision).
MathMomxbli 2015-10-13 20:39:11
Being a leader of Student Government without pay is counted as volunterring and/or school community work?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:39:14
Yup
psloh 2015-10-13 20:39:16
@mohanxue: I think that a breadth of experience is important. For example, when I was in high school, I used to not understand why athletics were important. I thought it would be enough just to work on building up your mind. But today, I find myself running all over campus, and trying to get from Point A to Point B as rapidly as possible, in order to achieve everything I'm trying to do!
yaredboy 2015-10-13 20:39:25
Is CMU a good school?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:39:31
@yaredboy: NO.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:39:37
@yaredboy: CMU is a great school.
yaredboy 2015-10-13 20:40:00
really? cause im thinkin about jhu or cmu
Eugenis 2015-10-13 20:40:11
My high school is more IB oriented than AP. Is there any disadvantages for me compared to AP schools?
nosaj 2015-10-13 20:40:23
Also, how important is it to take (and do well in) AP Social Studies courses. A lot of these courses require busywork that doesn't actually contribute to learning.
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:40:25
How many classes are you taking this term dj?
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:40:25
CMU > JHU
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:40:25
All courses are important to show overall academic strength. STEM curriculum/performance in high school is a bit more important for our CS, engineering, Mellon College of Sci programs. But we want great overall students!
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:40:26
CMU!
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:40:26
@eugenis No - IB/Ap treated similarly
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:40:27
@jrexmo: 4 + 2/2 - Interpretation and Argument, Modern Biology, Matrix Theory, Great Theoretical Ideas in Computer Science (basically math with CS applications), Eureka! First Year Seminar, and Putnam Seminar.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:40:36
@yaredboy: I strongly encourage to you to visit both places.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:40:53
@yaredboy: then you can make a fully informed decision.
kckk 2015-10-13 20:40:55
CIU is great!!!!
eveningstarandlion 2015-10-13 20:40:56
How would you determine the class rank?
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:40:57
Where do most people end up after undergrad at CMU (Industry, Gradschool...)?
kckk 2015-10-13 20:40:57
CMU, CIU!!!!!!!!!!
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:40:57
Some schools don't rank, so we don't have a rank for those students.
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:41:00
last year, 20% went to grad school; 80% to industry from CS undergrad class
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:41:49
do people start businesses after going to CMU?
mjs-cmu 2015-10-13 20:41:51
Yes - and then hire other CMU people!
mohanxue612 2015-10-13 20:42:06
is the cmu really nerdy as the stereotype
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:42:08
@mohan: Sure, it's nerdy, but in the sense that people pride themselves on their nerdiness. I find it very enjoyable to be around many different types of people on campus - dorm hall mates, Putnam people, you name it. We aren't CMU for nothing!
yaredboy 2015-10-13 20:42:10
whats the cost for cmu?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:42:12
last year approx \$66K...keep in mind 50% of students receive financial aid, avg financial aid award was \$36K and avg starting salary for CMU graduate last year was $78K...you get great jobs, and learn the meaning to life ;)
psloh 2015-10-13 20:42:14
@yaredboy: Again, I try to remain professional in not definitively comparing other schools. I think that the evidence would speak for itself in most cases. Make sure that when you visit a school, you talk to professors.
Eugenis 2015-10-13 20:42:37
How is the Putnam training at CMU? I heard they aren't as good as other places, which have USA IMO coaches training the competitors...
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:42:47
50 percent of students receive aid, 36,000 was avg award package
yaredboy 2015-10-13 20:43:11
i might get a scholarship
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:43:12
You could if you submit your Common App, FAFSA and CSS Profile
psloh 2015-10-13 20:43:16
@Eugenis: I second your suggestion to attend Putnam classes taught by professional coaches.
michael.liang 2015-10-13 20:43:28
@Eugenis We have THE US IMO coach training the Putnam competitors.
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:43:48
What if we have some classes that purposefully ruin our gpa's, but the rest i have great gpa
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:43:50
Not everyone who is admitted is perfect! We are all human...that's okay!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:43:54
... wow, that was an amazing evening.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:44:04
We had well over 100 people in the room for most of it.
psloh 2015-10-13 20:44:16
We really enjoyed talking to all of you, and look forward to seeing many of you here!
newluvmath 2015-10-13 20:44:19
Thanks Everone !! that was a good Session
kckk 2015-10-13 20:44:23
where is CMU?
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:44:24
Hawaii ;) Pittsburgh, actually
psloh 2015-10-13 20:44:26
Thanks everyone!
Gwena 2015-10-13 20:44:28
Thanks!
Gwena 2015-10-13 20:44:30
Bye!
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 20:44:32
Awwwww... Is it over
nhinkle 2015-10-13 20:44:32
Thanks, was a pleasure!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:44:43
@Liop: never over - just switch to real life and visit us in real life!
MathMomxbli 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Thank you all,and the chatting is significantly helpful!!!
mssmath 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Thank You so much for this informative and useful session
1Vector1 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Thank You!
Octophi 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Thanks!
szhang7853 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Bye!
eveningstarandlion 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Thanks!
nosaj 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Thank you!
bookworm2003 2015-10-13 20:44:48
Thanks!
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:44:52
Thanks!
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 20:44:54
Liopleurodon 2015-10-13 20:44:56
Thanks guys!
Royalreter1 2015-10-13 20:44:58
Thanks!
Guest-094528 2015-10-13 20:45:00
XD
jrexmo 2015-10-13 20:45:03
Had a lot of fun and found out about CMU thanks guys!!!
AndrewKwon97 2015-10-13 20:45:06
Shoutout to djmathman for representing Hamerschlag House!
Rmehtany 2015-10-13 20:45:08
thanks
gzgracez 2015-10-13 20:45:09
Thanks!
Rebecca16 2015-10-13 20:45:10
Bye
chezbgone 2015-10-13 20:45:12
sripri 2015-10-13 20:45:13
Thanks for the information. Are there programs for those interested in pursuing medical sciences?
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:45:18
If you have any questions about CMU after this math jam, feel free to visit us in real life or PM us afterward We'll be happy to answer them!
Eugenis 2015-10-13 20:45:34
Where do you guys live so I can visit you?
psloh 2015-10-13 20:45:38
We live in CMU
psloh 2015-10-13 20:45:44
Pittsburgh, PA.
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:45:51
Hope to see you all here at some point!
djmathman 2015-10-13 20:46:08
10-4, out!
LauraZed 2015-10-13 20:46:18
Thanks again to all our guests from CMU for spending time with us tonight to tell us all about Carnegie Mellon!
psloh 2015-10-13 20:46:22
AstrapiGnosis 2015-10-13 20:46:37
im ur biggest fan!!!!
qy8888 2015-10-13 20:46:41
thanks!
mistermath1214 2015-10-13 20:46:45
bye!!
LauraZed 2015-10-13 20:46:53
If you joined us late (or even if you didn't), a complete transcript of the discussion will be available shortly on our Math Jam Transcripts page at: http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/school/mathjams-transcripts
qy8888 2015-10-13 20:46:55
bye!

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