# Difference between revisions of "2015 AIME II Problems/Problem 6"

## Problem

Steve says to Jon, "I am thinking of a polynomial whose roots are all positive integers. The polynomial has the form $P(x) = 2x^3-2ax^2+(a^2-81)x-c$ for some positive integers $a$ and $c$. Can you tell me the values of $a$ and $c$?"

After some calculations, Jon says, "There is more than one such polynomial."

Steve says, "You're right. Here is the value of $a$." He writes down a positive integer and asks, "Can you tell me the value of $c$?"

Jon says, "There are still two possible values of $c$."

Find the sum of the two possible values of $c$.

## Solution 1 (Algebra)

We call the three roots (some may be equal to one another) $x_1$, $x_2$, and $x_3$. Using Vieta's formulas, we get $x_1+x_2+x_3 = a$, $x_1 \cdot x_2+x_1 \cdot x_3+x_2 \cdot x_3 = \frac{a^2-81}{2}$, and $x_1 \cdot x_2 \cdot x_3 = \frac{c}{2}$.

Squaring our first equation we get $x_1^2+x_2^2+x_3^2+2 \cdot x_1 \cdot x_2+2 \cdot x_1 \cdot x_3+2 \cdot x_2 \cdot x_3 = a^2$.

We can then subtract twice our second equation to get $x_1^2+x_2^2+x_3^2 = a^2-2 \cdot \frac{a^2-81}{2}$.

Simplifying the right side:

\begin{align*} a^2-2 \cdot \frac{a^2-81}{2} &= a^2-a^2+81\\ &= 81.\\ \end{align*}

So, we know $x_1^2+x_2^2+x_3^2 = 81$.

We can then list out all the triples of positive integers whose squares sum to $81$:

We get $(1, 4, 8)$, $(3, 6, 6)$, and $(4, 4, 7)$.

These triples give $a$ values of $13$, $15$, and $15$, respectively, and $c$ values of $64$, $216$, and $224$, respectively.

We know that Jon still found two possible values of $c$ when Steve told him the $a$ value, so the $a$ value must be $15$. Thus, the two $c$ values are $216$ and $224$, which sum to $\boxed{\text{440}}$.

~BealsConjecture~

## Solution 2 (Algebra+ Brute Force)

First things first. Vietas gives us the following:

\begin{align} x_1+x_2+x_3 = a\\ x_1 \cdot x_2+x_1 \cdot x_3+x_2 \cdot x_3 = \frac{a^2-81}{2}\\ x_1 \cdot x_2 \cdot x_3 = \frac{c}{2} \end{align}

From $(2)$, $a$ must have odd parity, meaning $a^2-81$ must be a multiple of $4$, which implies that both sides of $(2)$ are even. Then, from $(1)$, we see that an odd number of $x_1$, $x_2$, and $x_3$ must be odd, because we have already deduced that $a$ is odd. In order for both sides of $(2)$ to be even, there must only be one odd number and two even numbers.

Now, the theoretical maximum value of the left side of $(2)$ is $3 \cdot \frac{a}{3}^2=\frac{a^2}{3}$. That means that the maximum bound of $a$ is where $$\frac{a^2}{3}> \frac{a^2-81}{2} \indent (4)$$ which simplifies to $$\sqrt{243}>a$$ meaning $$16>a(5)$$ So now we have that $9 from $(2)$, $a<16$ from $(5)$, and $a$ is odd from $(2)$. This means that $a$ could equal $11$, $13$, or $15$. At this point, we have simplified the problem to the point where we can casework+ brute force. As said above, we arrive at our solutions of $(1, 4, 8)$, $(3, 6, 6)$, and $(4, 4, 7)$, of which the last two return equal $a$ values. Then, $2(3 \cdot 6 \cdot 6+4 \cdot 4 \cdot 7)=\boxed{440}$ AWD.