Did I make the right choice?

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#1 h Apr 29, 2025, 1:42 PM • 1 Y

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If you were in 8th grade, would you rather go to MOP or mc nats? I chose to study the former more and got in so was wondering if that was valid given that I'll never make mc nats.

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#2 h Apr 29, 2025, 1:45 PM

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MOP is much more prestigious than MC Nats, you won't regret it! Congratulations on MOP!

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#3 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:14 AM • 1 Y

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You can only go to nats a max of 3 time. But for MOP, in your case, you have a very good chance at going 5 times.

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#4 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:22 AM

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Yeah I agree with @above

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#5 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:32 AM

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@all above, this question makes no sense. Why can't @op go to both? Im pretty sure they do not overlap, and the only issue could be finances (which I totally understand), yet mop is free.

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#6 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:33 AM • 1 Y

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going to both would be harder as you would need to grind speed too (for mathcounts)

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#7 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:40 AM • 1 Y

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Alex-131 wrote:

@all above, this question makes no sense. Why can't @op go to both? Im pretty sure they do not overlap, and the only issue could be finances (which I totally understand), yet mop is free.

mathcounts nats is also free

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#8 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:45 AM

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mop since we go to DC instead of universal studios

((((((

nah obviously it's mop, 1000x more prestigious

@above depends on the state 100%

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#9 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:48 AM

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Alex-131 wrote:

@all above, this question makes no sense. Why can't @op go to both? Im pretty sure they do not overlap, and the only issue could be finances (which I totally understand), yet mop is free.

Its because I decided to not study for mathcounts because that would take a long time

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#10 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:48 AM

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Andyluo wrote:

mop since we go to DC instead of universal studios

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nah obviously it's mop, 1000x more prestigious

@above depends on the state 100%

why do we get to go to dc

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#11 h Apr 30, 2025, 12:57 AM

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How did bro get 8th grade mop orz

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#12 h Apr 30, 2025, 1:04 AM

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I think OP is saying that he made MOP but not MC Nats (which is totally plausible btw, especially if OP comes from California), and is asking whether his choice to grind for MOP over MC Nats was worth it.

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#14 h Apr 30, 2025, 1:22 AM

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Martin2001 wrote:

If you were in 8th grade, would you rather go to MOP or mc nats? I chose to study the former more and got in so was wondering if that was valid given that I'll never make mc nats.

Here's how I would look at it. You devoted time and resources to one goal and you completed it. And now you are wondering if you made the wrong choice. Unless you are sure you would have made nats, otherwise, no one knows. So be happy and have fun at mop.

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#15 h Apr 30, 2025, 1:26 AM

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babyzombievillager wrote:

I think OP is saying that he made MOP but not MC Nats (which is totally plausible btw, especially if OP comes from California), and is asking whether his choice to grind for MOP over MC Nats was worth it.

to be fair, it feels slightly questionable (at least to me) that OP did well on the amc series enough to mop qual, but he struggles with speed math? Even in a state like california, I'm sure he could be able to beat others in a top 4. I mean I understand pressure, etc, but this is slightly off-putting.

I could be completely wrong, so sorry if so.

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#17 h Apr 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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I mean depends because MOP has 9,10,11, and 12 but Mathcounts nats only has 6,7,8 so you have more time for MOP but Mathcounts is limited for 3 years

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#35 h May 5, 2025, 1:46 AM • 1 Y

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Can you share your state MC score? If you have high AMC10 score or even 150, you should be good at computational. No need to practice MC.

MC is ridiculously volatile and I feel like luck plays a larger role than people like to think. One bad day can easily drop your score by like 7 points and its made even worse since this is CA

also its completely possible to be good at olympiad and not be good at computational (especially mathcounts), though most people are usually good at both

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#36 h May 5, 2025, 1:51 AM

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happypi31415 wrote:

crazyLaDuc wrote:

Can you share your state MC score? If you have high AMC10 score or even 150, you should be good at computational. No need to practice MC.

MC is ridiculously volatile and I feel like luck plays a larger role than people like to think. One bad day can easily drop your score by like 7 points and its made even worse since this is CA

also its completely possible to be good at olympiad and not be good at computational (especially mathcounts), though most people are usually good at both

If you are not good at computational, how can you make JMO? JMO cutoffs are ridiculously high now. I know several middle schoolers are good at Olympiad but missed JMO cutoffs by < 5 points last year, again this year.

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#37 h May 5, 2025, 2:11 AM

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crazyLaDuc wrote:

happypi31415 wrote:

crazyLaDuc wrote:

Can you share your state MC score? If you have high AMC10 score or even 150, you should be good at computational. No need to practice MC.

MC is ridiculously volatile and I feel like luck plays a larger role than people like to think. One bad day can easily drop your score by like 7 points and its made even worse since this is CA

also its completely possible to be good at olympiad and not be good at computational (especially mathcounts), though most people are usually good at both

If you are not good at computational, how can you make JMO? JMO cutoffs are ridiculously high now. I know several middle schoolers are good at Olympiad but missed JMO cutoffs by < 5 points last year, again this year.

Many people got in through USAMTS this year, which is proof based. Also, AIME is more forgiving on olympiad people than AMC 10/12.

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#38 h May 5, 2025, 3:53 PM

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crazyLaDuc wrote:

Can you share your state MC score? If you have high AMC10 score or even 150, you should be good at computational. No need to practice MC.

okay but MC isn't multiple choice which is why I didn't dogood

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#39 h May 5, 2025, 3:55 PM

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#40 h May 21, 2025, 9:47 PM

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Martin2001 wrote:

crazyLaDuc wrote:

Can you share your state MC score? If you have high AMC10 score or even 150, you should be good at computational. No need to practice MC.

okay but MC isn't multiple choice which is why I didn't dogood

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Alex-131 wrote:

@all above, this question makes no sense. Why can't @op go to both? Im pretty sure they do not overlap, and the only issue could be finances (which I totally understand), yet mop is free.

Its because I decided to not study for mathcounts because that would take a long time

qualifying mop takes much MUCH more studying than qualifying mc nats
mop: grind otis and woot ii, do a few 4.5 hour mocks
mc nats: just a mathcount mock a day, an hour fifteen minutes at best

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#41 h May 21, 2025, 10:19 PM

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MathCounts is entirely free, but it's at an unbelievably fast pace.

@above depends on prior knowledge and other competitions, and the state is the biggest factor here

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#42 h May 21, 2025, 10:35 PM

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Nats is really fun but MOP is probably better

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#43 h May 21, 2025, 10:37 PM

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mop is more like the guide to high competitions like TST or IMO

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#44 h May 21, 2025, 10:57 PM

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ethan2011 wrote:

Martin2001 wrote:

crazyLaDuc wrote:

Can you share your state MC score? If you have high AMC10 score or even 150, you should be good at computational. No need to practice MC.

okay but MC isn't multiple choice which is why I didn't dogood

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Martin2001 wrote:

Alex-131 wrote:

@all above, this question makes no sense. Why can't @op go to both? Im pretty sure they do not overlap, and the only issue could be finances (which I totally understand), yet mop is free.

Its because I decided to not study for mathcounts because that would take a long time

qualifying mop takes much MUCH more studying than qualifying mc nats
mop: grind otis and woot ii, do a few 4.5 hour mocks
mc nats: just a mathcount mock a day, an hour fifteen minutes at best

well i did all the mathcounts mocks last year and i was bad so

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