Complex identities

by t0rajir0u, Dec 5, 2006, 3:58 PM

Let's talk about a fun identity due to the theory of complex numbers.

Problem: Show that any integer solutions $(x, y, z, t)$ to

$(x^{2}+y^{2})(z^{2}+t^{2}) = 3(xz-yt)^{2}$

Must satisfy $x = y = 0$ or $z = t = 0$.

Approach 1: This is the fun identity. Now, we know that

$(x+yi)(z+ti) = (xz-yt)+(xt+yz) i$

(By the way, a number of the form $x+yi$ where $x, y$ are integers is known as a Gaussian integer. This ring has many useful properties (for example, prime factorization) that are worth studying.) Let's calculate the "norm" of both sides. The norm $N(a+bi) = a^{2}+b^{2}$ is a multiplicative function (good lemma!), so

$(x^{2}+y^{2})(z^{2}+t^{2}) = (xz-yt)^{2}+(xt+yz)^{2}$

This is a very useful identity, especially for proving things about the properties of the integers representible as a sum of two squares. (Incidentally, this is a great way to prove Cauchy in Euclidean space.) Therefore, our given problem is equivalent to

$(xt+yz)^{2}= 2(xz-yt)^{2}$

Which is obviously absurd in the integers unless $xt+yz = xz-yt = 0$. But then $(xt+yz)^{2}+(xz-yt)^{2}= (x^{2}+y^{2})(z^{2}+t^{2}) = 0$, and either $x = y = 0$ or $z = t = 0$ as desired. QED.

Approach 2: Has less to do with complex numbers, but is worth sharing anyway. It's related: given the vectors $a = \left< x, y \right>, b = \left< z, t \right>$, the above is equivalent to

$|a| |b| = 3 a \cdot b \Leftrightarrow \cos \theta = \frac{1}{3}$

Where $\theta$ is the angle between the vectors. (Note that the RHS has an integer value, so the LHS also has an integer value.) But this means that

$\sin \theta = \frac{2 \sqrt{2}}{3}$

And of course, we know that

$a \times b = |a| |b| \sin \theta$

Where the LHS should have an integer value, but the RHS clearly cannot - unless $|a| = 0$ or $|b| = 0$. QED.

(Next entry: more applications of factoring over the complex numbers. And... beyond the Gaussian integers? :o)


Practice Problem 1: (to take a leaf out of paladin8's book :P)

Find all positive integer solutions $(a, b)$ to

$a^{2}+b^{2}= 2004$

(There aren't many, but do this quickly and without a calculator.)

Practice Problem 2: Derive the Pythagorean Triple Generating Formulae in as few lines as possible.

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this is awesome

i might do the problems soon

i really need to study all this fancy stuff like rings

by chess64, Dec 5, 2006, 6:05 PM

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2. $a^{2}+b^{2}= c^{2}$ for positive integers $a,b,c$ with $(a,b,c) = 1$ means $(a+bi)(a-bi) = c^{2}$. If $c$ is "prime" over the Gaussian integers, this is impossible because then either $a+bi = a-bi = c$ or one of the factors is a unit. So $c$ is factorable; let it be $(u+vi)(u-vi)$. We obtain $c = u^{2}+v^{2}$. Then $a+bi = (u+vi)^{2}$, $a-bi = (u-vi)^{2}$ so $a = u^{2}-v^{2}$ and $b = 2uv$.

$(u^{2}-v^{2}, 2uv, u^{2}+v^{2})$

with $(u,v) = 1$ generates all primitive Pythagorean triples. Yeah... it goes something like that.

BTW, can you upload files to your blog? And you should update!

by paladin8, Dec 10, 2006, 10:53 PM

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Is practice problem 1 possible?

Taking the equation mod 3:

$a^{2}+b^{2}\equiv 0 \pmod 3$

That means a and b must both be divisible by three, so

$(3m)^{2}+(3n)^{2}=2004$, but 2004 isn't divisible by 9.

Maybe I missed something...

EDIT: I think you may have meant 2005.

by Potato Theory, Dec 31, 2006, 12:29 AM

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Sorry, yes, I did mean $2005$. :oops:

by t0rajir0u, Jan 4, 2007, 4:55 AM

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How do you do practice problem 1 with Gaussian Integers???

by 1=2, Jun 2, 2008, 3:08 PM

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$ 2005 = 5 * 401$

Factorize further to get:

$ 2005 = (2+i)(2-i)(20+i)(20-i)$

Now use that $ (a-bi)(a+bi) = 2005$.

by ffao, Jul 6, 2009, 10:41 PM

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