Post-ARML

by t0rajir0u, Jun 4, 2007, 3:20 AM

ARML 2007 Individual Tiebreaker #1: Compute the largest positive real solution to the equation

$2x^{2}+3x+3 = 7x \sqrt{x+1}$

Solution: The first thing most people thought of when tackling this problem, I imagine, is the straightforward expansion into a quartic and subsequent factoring into two quadratics. The two quadratics do exist, but I doubt most people have the computational speed necessary to perform the factoring in tiebreaker time. This is probably why only five people at the Las Vegas site (if I recall correctly) correctly answered this question.

The first thing I noticed about the equation was that the LHS could be written $2x^{2}+3(x+1)$. After some musing, this led to the substitution $y = \sqrt{x+1}$.

This is a very important step! Superficially, it doesn't make much sense to change an equation in one variable into a system of equations in two variables. On the other hand, I have encountered several systems of equations in two variables that only became more complicated if I attempted to solve them with substitution, so why shouldn't the converse hold? In other words, splitting an equation into a system can sometimes make it easier to solve.

And how! The above substitution produces the simple binary quadratic form

$2x^{2}-7xy+3y^{2}= 0 \Leftrightarrow$
$(2x-y)(x-3y) = 0$

Case: $2x = y$. We also know $y^{2}= x+1$, so $4x^{2}= x+1 \implies x = \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{17}}{8}$.

Case: $x = 3y$. Then $x^{2}= 9x+9 \implies x = \frac{9 \pm 3 \sqrt{13}}{2}$. The positive root here is the largest root of the original equation, and we are done.


The above train of thought took me about two minutes to run through on paper. Now, if only I'd been in the tiebreaker round...

In any case, this solution is simply a very elegant way to reveal the factoring of the original quartic (after squaring out), which is $(4x^{2}-x-1)(x^{2}-9x-9)$. Answering this problem quickly was largely a matter of considering the substitution $y = \sqrt{x+1}$ as soon as possible, except for those of us who possess some unnatural talent for factoring quartics.

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I was trying that problem along with everyone else (but I was a coach this year). That substitution was the first thing I thought of but I didn't go through with it...bleh, I'm quite a bit rusty at this stuff :(

by joml88, Jun 4, 2007, 3:46 PM

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Hmmm that is pretty tricky. I used a more standard technique of first making the substitution $y = \sqrt{x+1}$ and mindlessly putting everything in terms of y. Then you notice a lot of symmetry going on and make the further substitution $t = y-\frac{1}{y}$, from which it's just a matter of quadratic formula several times.

by probability1.01, Jun 4, 2007, 6:03 PM

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probability1.01 wrote:
Hmmm that is pretty tricky. I used a more standard technique of first making the substitution $y = \sqrt{x+1}$ and mindlessly putting everything in terms of y. Then you notice a lot of symmetry going on and make the further substitution $t = y-\frac{1}{y}$, from which it's just a matter of quadratic formula several times.

That's what I did. Of course, I wasn't doing the problem, I was looking over someone's shoulder, then I saw the symmetry in his quartic and I was like dude substitute again ftw

by 13375P34K43V312, Jun 4, 2007, 10:28 PM

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I skipped the substitution and instead looked at the squared quartic. It factors nicely as

$4x^{4}-37x^{2}(x+1)+9(x+1)^{2}=0$

which, when divided through by $(x+1)^{2}$, leaves a very simple quadratic.

Too bad it took me 3-4 minutes to see that.

by Elemennop, Jun 4, 2007, 10:47 PM

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