MOP Qualification

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tamjazad

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#1 h Sep 6, 2016, 2:06 PM • 2 Y

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What would one have to make on the USA(J)MO to make mop?

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Generic_Username

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#2 h Sep 6, 2016, 2:40 PM • 2 Y

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tamjazad wrote:

What would one have to make on the USA(J)MO to make mop?

You'd normally have to win the USA(J)MO, or in the case of last year, be a very high HM. You can see previous years' cutoff scores here.

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ayushk

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#3 h Sep 7, 2016, 5:32 AM • 2 Y

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You can read about it here: http://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c5h1079745p4737466

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v_Enhance

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#4 h Sep 9, 2016, 7:50 PM • 4 Y

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From http://www.mit.edu/~evanchen/FAQs/rules.html, relevant excerpt bolded below

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Before I say anything I want to say that the criteria for MOP invitations are not especially well-defined. Each year, the exact number and choice of students is determined based on the exact scores for that year.

That being said, as of 2016 the criteria for MOP is roughly as follows:

IMO team members and alternates ("black" group)
The next approximately 12 non-graduating USAMO students ("blue" group).
The next approximately 12 USAMO students in 9th and 10th grades ("green" or "red")
The top approximately 12 students on USAJMO ("red" group)
Some varying number of non-graduating female contestants from either USAMO or USAJMO (these students represent USA at the European Girls' Math Olympiad). The exact cutoffs for each contest are determined based on the scores for that year.

Young students in 8th grades and below are invited to MOP if and only if the moon is full and the wind is blowing south-south-east. All selection is done by ID number, without student names.

The "color groups" are a convenient shorthand and not worth worrying about.

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stephcurry

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#5 h Sep 9, 2016, 11:05 PM • 2 Y

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v_Enhance wrote:

Young students in 8th grades and below are invited to MOP if and only if the moon is full and the wind is blowing south-south-east. All selection is done by ID number, without student names.

Is this true? I've never heard this rule before

Seriously though, they should make some sort of set rule for admitting people in 8th grade and below, as it seems highly subjective from year to year

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FiveMops03

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#6 h Sep 11, 2016, 1:57 AM • 2 Y

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stephcurry wrote:

v_Enhance wrote:

Young students in 8th grades and below are invited to MOP if and only if the moon is full and the wind is blowing south-south-east. All selection is done by ID number, without student names.

Is this true? I've never heard this rule before

Seriously though, they should make some sort of set rule for admitting people in 8th grade and below, as it seems highly subjective from year to year

Does it have anything to do with MATHCOUNTS? The three middle schoolers who made it this year were 1,2,S at countdown; 1, 2, 3 written. The next few highest scoring middle school JMO participants (the two other middle school winners, and one of the two middle school HMs) did not make MATHCOUNTS nationals. Moreover, the MOP invitations were personally given by Po-Shen at nationals (if I'm not mistaken).

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Wave-Particle

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#7 h Sep 11, 2016, 2:02 AM • 5 Y

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FiveMops03 wrote:

stephcurry wrote:

v_Enhance wrote:

Young students in 8th grades and below are invited to MOP if and only if the moon is full and the wind is blowing south-south-east. All selection is done by ID number, without student names.

Is this true? I've never heard this rule before

Seriously though, they should make some sort of set rule for admitting people in 8th grade and below, as it seems highly subjective from year to year

Does it have anything to do with MATHCOUNTS? The three middle schoolers who made it this year were 1,2,S at countdown; 1, 2, 3 written. The next few highest scoring middle school JMO participants (the two other middle school winners, and one of the two middle school HMs) did not make MATHCOUNTS nationals. Moreover, the MOP invitations were personally given by Po-Shen at nationals (if I'm not mistaken).

No it doesn't have to do with MATHCOUNTS. These middle schoolers also scored higher than the other middle schoolers on the JMO/AMO which is why they were picked. Also, last year the middle school MOPper did not attend nationals which is more proof it has nothing to do with MATHCOUNTS.

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v_Enhance

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#8 h Sep 11, 2016, 2:11 PM • 5 Y

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FiveMops03 wrote:

Does it have anything to do with MATHCOUNTS?

As I said already: all selection is done by ID number, without student names. Since we do not have Mathcounts scores attached to USA(J)MO ID numbers it is impossible for Mathcounts performance to affect the selection in any way.

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