#4) Symmedians in a Triangle

by AnArtist, Feb 7, 2018, 4:32 PM

Let $ABC$ be a triangle.

Let $T$ be a point inside the triangle such that the lines $AT, BT, CT$ are the $T$ symmedians of triangles $\Delta BTC , \Delta CTA, \Delta ATB$ respectively.

Let $D, E, F$ be the points on rays $AT, BT, CT$ such that $TD = 2AT, TE = 2BT, TF = 2CT$.

Then prove that $T$ is the radical center of circles $(BDC), (CEA),(AFB)$.

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Here is my solution-
Let $AT \cap (BTC) = D'$ where $D'$ is different from $T$. Define $E' , F'$ similarly.

Now perform an inversion around $T$ with radius $r$. Let $P^*$ denote the image of point $P$ under the inversion.

Claim 1) $T$ is the centroid of $\Delta A^*B^*C^*$
Proof-

Clearly $A^*T$ meets $B^*C^*$ at $D'^*$.

Therefore it suffices to show that $D'^*$ is the midpoint of $B^*C^*$.

By inversion distance formula.

$$B^*D'^* = \frac{r^2. BD'}{TB.TD'} $$
$$C^*D'^* = \frac{r^2.CD'}{TC.TD'} $$
Hence $$\frac{B^*D'^*}{C^*D'^*}= \frac{BD'.TC}{BT.CD'}$$
But since the quadrilateral $BTCD'$ is harmonic our claim is proved.

Claim 2) $D = D'$.
Proof-

It suffices to prove,

$$TD' = 2TA$$
Note that,

$$\frac{TD'}{TA} = \frac{\frac{r^2}{T^*D'^*}}{\frac{r^2}{T^*A^*}} = \frac{T^*A^*}{T^*D'^*}= 2$$
Where the last conclusion follows from claim 1).

So $D' = D$ as claimed.

Now we move onto the problem.

By claim 2) $BTCD$ is cyclic. Similarly $ATCE$ and $BTAF$ is cyclic.

Hence we are done.

by AnArtist, Feb 8, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Solution by TelvCohl
TelvCohl wrote:
Let $ \triangle XYZ $ be the antipedal triangle of $ T $ WRT $ \triangle ABC, $ then $ X(T, \parallel YZ; Y, Z) = T(\perp TX, A; C,B) = -1, $ so $ XT $ is the X-median of $ \triangle XYZ. $ Analogously, we can prove $ YT, ZT $ is the Y-median, Z-median of $ \triangle XYZ, $ respectively, so $ T $ is the centroid of $ \triangle XYZ $ and $ D \in \odot (BTC), $ $ E \in \odot (CTA), $ $ F \in \odot (ATB). $

Remark : $ T $ is one of the foci of the Steiner inellipse of $ \triangle ABC. $

I don't understand anything though.

by AnArtist, Feb 8, 2018, 5:10 AM

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What about my solution? :D

Clearly, the problem is done if we show the following:

$DBC$ is a triangle with the $D-$symmedian meeting $(DBC)$ again at $T$. The $D-$Dumpty point of $DBC$ is $X$ (the midpoint of $DT$). Reflection of $X$ in $T$ is $A$. Then $AT, CT$ are the symmedians in $BTC, BTA$.

Proof: The first claim is trivial, since $BCTD$ is harmonic, so we focus on the second part. We need $\frac{\sin \angle BTC}{\sin \angle CTA} = \frac{BT}{TA}$. It is well known as a property of the $D-$Dumpty point that $(DXB)$ is tangent to $DC$. So from angle chase, we have $\angle BXT = \angle D$, and $\angle XBT = \angle B$. So by the definition of $A$, we are done, as $\angle BTC = 180 - \angle D, \angle CTA = 180 - \angle B$.

Here I now show how the problem follows from the claim.
$AT/CT = \sin \angle ATB / \sin \angle BTC,$ so as $A$ varies on $DT$ extended, the length $AT$ is fixed. So $A$ is the unique point satisfying the first condition of the problem. Hence, $A=A'$.

Remark : The $D-$Dumpty point is also known as the vertex of the second Brocard triangle, and here.

It had a small detail left on the original thread, i.e. proving $A=A'$ (in the notation of the discussion of the thread that ensued) which was completed. (I thought that it was obvious from the sine rule chase, that the point $A$ had to be unique)

by WizardMath, Feb 9, 2018, 1:28 PM

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@WizardMath I'm so sorry I forgot to add your solution.

by AnArtist, Feb 9, 2018, 4:19 PM

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