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2022 Mathcamp Math Jam

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Marisa Debowsky, Cananda/USA Mathcamp's Executive Director, describes the Mathcamp summer program for high school math students.

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Facilitator: Marisa Debowsky

rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:00:26
Hello and welcome to the Canada/USA Mathcamp Math Jam!
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:00:32
Before I introduce our guests, let me briefly explain how our online classroom works.
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:00:41
Also, you'll find that you can adjust the classroom windows in a variety of ways, and can adjust the font size by clicking the A icons atop the main window.
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:01:08
Canada/USA Mathcamp is an intensive five-week-long summer program for high-school students interested in mathematics, designed to expose students to the beauty of advanced mathematical ideas and to new ways of thinking. I attended myself around 2015, and I work at AoPS now! You can learn more about Canada/USA Mathcamp at www.mathcamp.org.
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:01:20
In this Math Jam, Canada/USA Mathcamp staff will lead a discussion about their outstanding program. Many other AoPS instructors, assistants, and students are alumni of Mathcamp.
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:01:32
For now, please hold your questions – they'll let you know when you can start asking questions. Also, they may not be able to get to every question.
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:01:37
And now let me introduce our guests!
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:01:41
Marisa Debowsky (MarisaD) is the Executive Director of Mathcamp. She's been teaching Topological Graph Theory and singing pop songs at Mathcamp every summer since 2006.
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:01:50
Ania Łeń (AniaLen) is the Program Coordinator at Mathcamp. She's been coming to Mathcamp almost every summer since 2015 – first as a student and later as staff. She loves talking about combinatorics and organizing hikes!
rkuroyama 2022-02-13 13:01:56
I'll turn the room over to Marisa now!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:02:00
Hi, everybody, and welcome to the annual Mathcamp Q&A! Thanks as always to @rrusczyk and the AoPS team for hosting us, and @rkuroyama for running the room today.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:02:08
Ania and I are here to talk about Mathcamp 2022, both the program and the application process. (You've got a captive audience with admissions officers, so this is a great chance to get ready for application season.)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:02:18
First, I'll say in a few short sentences what Mathcamp is. Then we'll spend about 30 minutes discussing the program, and 30 minutes discussing the application process, and then we'll wrap up after about 90 minutes total.
thinker123 2022-02-13 13:02:29
Hi! I'm excited to learn more about the Canada/USA Mathcamp. :D
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:02:39
Perfect! Then you're in the right place. :-)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:02:43
So, Mathcamp: it's a 5-week residential math summer program. This year, it runs Sunday, July 3 through Sunday, August 7, and takes place at Colby College in Waterville, Maine.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:02:50
(Mathcamp was online for the last two summers due to Covid, so we are really excited to get back to a residential format of camp this year!)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:02:59
Really really frequently asked questions (RRFAQ), to get them out of the way:
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:03:07
Who comes to Mathcamp? We have 120 students per year, from all over the world. It's typically 65 new campers and 55 returning alumni per year. Recent summers have been 45–50% girls, 50–55% boys, with a few non-binary students every year.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:03:21
Scholarships? Yes! Every student (US, Canadian, & International; new and returning) is eligible for financial aid, and we have a large scholarship budget: everybody who needs financial aid will receive it. About 25% of our students receive full scholarships, and we can even buy you a plane ticket. We won't let money prevent you from coming to camp.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:03:32
What kind of math? All kinds. A cool thing about Mathcamp is that we offer about 150 classes and projects over the course of a single summer, and you have complete freedom to design your own curriculum.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:03:46
What else happens? During the evenings and on the weekends, there are a zillion (ish) activities happening, and you choose how to spend your time.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:03:55
That flexibility and creativity – academic and nonacademic – are the defining characteristics of Mathcamp.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:04:05
What about Covid? We are taking Covid precautions very seriously, and are designing a set of policies and protocols to keep our students and staff safe while living together at an in-person program. You can learn a lot at https://www.mathcamp.org/covid and we're happy to answer questions today.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:04:17
How do I get in? Admission is competitive. (We expect to admit 10 - 15% of the applicants.) The two main ingredients are the Qualifying Quiz and your personal essay. You'll also submit recommendation letters and some short answers about your math background. For more info, see https://www.mathcamp.org/quiz/ and https://www.mathcamp.org/essay/.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:04:32
When do I apply? The deadline to apply is a few weeks away: March 10, 2022. (All applications received by the deadline get equal consideration, so there's no advantage to applying early.)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:04:47
Alrighty, let's shift gears! We want to get to as many of your questions as possible.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:04:53
Ania and I would like to meet *you* along with your question (we talk to students and families a lot by email, and this is a chance for us to talk with you in realtime!), so here's a suggested format:
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:04:58
Name / Age / Location: Question



e.g.

Alicia / 14 / Sunnyside: Do we celebrate birthdays during Mathcamp?

or

Fredo / Parent / Argentina : Where can we mail care packages?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:05:06
(But that format is not mandatory - in keeping with the spirit of Mathcamp, just about everything is optional, and we'll do our best to answer your questions in any format.)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:05:23
Okay, ready? Let's spend about until about 1:45 ET on questions about the program itself: mathematical and residential life at Mathcamp; the people; the campus; the "during" and "after" of Mathcamp. (And then we'll switch over to discussing the "before": the application process and financial aid.)
akpi2 2022-02-13 13:05:34
Is there number theory at Mathcamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:05:44
Yes! We teach all sorts of math at camp, and Number Theory is a popular topic.
akpi2 2022-02-13 13:06:26
Is there some sort of age limit at mathcamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:06:46
Yes: we admit students as young as 13, and the upper limit is 18 (but we do make exceptions for 19-year-olds sometimes).
BruNow 2022-02-13 13:06:56
Bruno / 11 / Luxembourg: looks like this is geared for high school students. What is the minimum age to attend?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:07:13
That minimum of 13 is pretty firm. (We recommend https://www.mathpath.org/ for younger students.)
zkishiyeva8 2022-02-13 13:07:21
Zulfiyya / 17 / Azerbaijan: Can we bring any pets to Mathcamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:07:49
Ooh, love this question. I don't think Colby College will let us bring pets, but I can ask! Emotional support animals are likely an exception.
spongebob365 2022-02-13 13:08:01
Sarah / 14 / Canada : How long does the mathcamp run for? The entire summer?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:08:17
It's five weeks, starting July 3 and ending August 7.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:08:30
(Just one session, and the same students are there the whole time.)
Champagne2021 2022-02-13 13:08:46
Jingyi Zhao / 16/ Sammamish: Same question, do we celebrate birthdays during Mathcamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:08:55
Yes, we definitely do! :-)
VayuGupta123 2022-02-13 13:09:01
How much is the cost of this camp ?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:09:10
The cost for our 2022 program will be between 0 and $4,500, depending on financial aid.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:09:15
(That includes tuition, room and board, field trips, local transportation – everything except your plane tickets to Maine. And we offer travel grants for families that need help with the plane tickets, too.)
superagh 2022-02-13 13:09:29
Can you tell us about the food :D
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:09:48
I can! Our dining hall ("Dana" is the name of the building, in case you wanted to google it later) has a wide variety of options: you can get anything from a slice of pizza to a family-style meal.
majingh 2022-02-13 13:10:06
Annie/Parent/CA: this year is there limit for returning students? I heard that this year there is no cap on returning students.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:10:40
That's correct, we are not capping the number of returning alums this year. (We will increase the size of camp if more than 55 alums plan to return.) More info at https://www.mathcamp.org/alumni/return_policy/ for returning alums.
TETris5 2022-02-13 13:10:46
Do I have to be from North-America to participate?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:10:52
Nope! We welcome students from all over the world.
mika_g 2022-02-13 13:10:55
Mallika/15/CA/ Will exercise facilities (gym, track, etc.) be open to students?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:10:59
Yes!
WinterOwl23 2022-02-13 13:11:09
Can you change classes?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:11:21
Yes!
cleverhit 2022-02-13 13:11:24
is it online or in person
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:11:29
In person.
fuzimiao2013 2022-02-13 13:11:43
How does the returning students thing work? Do they also apply, and are just put in a different queue or something?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:11:51
Returning alums don't have to reapply; they just sign up.
MuniaG 2022-02-13 13:12:05
Adrija/16/India is there a swimming pool in colby college?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:12:14
Yes! We'll have access to a newly renovated fitness center on campus (including a swimming pool, tennis courts, and weight room): https://colbyathletics.com/sports/2020/10/8/harold-alfond-athletics-and-recreation-center.aspx
spongebob365 2022-02-13 13:12:44
Sarah / 14 / Canada : What are some of the non-academic activities that are offered ?!
mistypond2018 2022-02-13 13:12:44
What are some activities that happen in the evening?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:13:29
Ooh, that's a big question. There are LOTS of activities in the evenings, and they run the gamut – choir rehearsals, frisbee, board games, baking things into fractal shapes...
Tanushka 2022-02-13 13:13:35
Tatiana/ 15/ Russia : will students go outside of colby college?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:13:45
Yes, students are permitted to leave campus (in groups of 3 or more).
akpi2 2022-02-13 13:13:49
Kevin / 11 / Anchorage, Alaska: How many hours do students drill every day at Mathcamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:13:53
There is no such thing. :-)
soja.garcon 2022-02-13 13:13:59
Justin / 14 / Oregon: What are the dorms going to be like (for students)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:14:13
Our dorms this year are Foss and Woodman at Colby: https://web.colby.edu/colbybuildings/foss-woodman/.
Edjhol 2022-02-13 13:14:26
Hugo/15/US Are classes strictly one-week or can they be longer?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:14:39
It varies! Some classes are multi-week. (But the standard is one week.)
Lionking212 2022-02-13 13:14:48
Can we learn knot theory in Mathcamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:14:52
Yes!
bobthegod78 2022-02-13 13:15:03
Rohan / 13 / CA: Are there sports available (such as basketball)?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:15:06
Yes!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:15:24
Both campers and staff will organize games (like basketball), and also mini-workouts – planking has been popular recently, and also Capture the Flag. I'd say Ultimate Frisbee is the perennial favorite.
zkishiyeva8 2022-02-13 13:15:32
Will we stay with a roommate?
MuniaG 2022-02-13 13:15:56
Adrija/16/India: Are the student dorms single accomodation or with room mates?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:16:02
We have both options.
Tanushka 2022-02-13 13:16:14
Will we have any excursions?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:16:20
Yes! There are field trips every weekend.
Buchela 2022-02-13 13:16:30
Is Mathcamp provided solely by AoPS or is it a joint effort between several organizations?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:16:53
Mathcamp isn't organized by AoPS; it's an independent program. (But we're grateful to AoPS for lending us the Math Jam platform to talk about the program!)
JohnnyTase 2022-02-13 13:17:01
Basil / 15 / California: I hear Maine has some of the best local ice cream in the world - will we get to try any?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:17:06
For sure. :-D
Chocolatte 2022-02-13 13:17:15
are there tests?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:17:19
Nope, definitely not.
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 13:17:30
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: What would the daily routine look like and do weekends count as days off?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:17:53
To the extent that there is a typical day, here's a description: https://www.mathcamp.org/about_mathcamp/typical_day_at_mathcamp/
phoebepan 2022-02-13 13:18:21
If my goal is to improve my AMC and AIME scores, is this the right camp? Thanks
SweetFurball 2022-02-13 13:18:21
What math level is the qualifying quiz, and for the students at mathcamp?
akpi2 2022-02-13 13:18:21
Kevin / 11 / Anchorage, Alaska: Do AMC/MATHCOUNTS scores help during application for Mathcamp?
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 13:18:21
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: I have a good mathematical background since I have won 2 olympiads of the country but last year because of covid I was in the hospital and didn't attend any olympiads. Do you take olympiads from 2 years and 3 years ago as a valid history of maths source?
Tanushka 2022-02-13 13:18:21
Tatiana/ 15/ Russia : How big should my achievements in mathematics be?
akpi2 2022-02-13 13:18:21
Kevin / 11 / Anchorage, Alaska: Will the people that decide who to let into Mathcamp consider an individual's AMC and MATHCOUNTS scores?
asimov 2022-02-13 13:18:21
Approximately what level is the math curriculum? is it geared to competition math? if so, what contest level would it be?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:18:32
LOTS of people want to know about competitions, so let me answer a bunch of these at once. :-)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:19:27
First: Mathcamp isn't geared around competitions. There are two weekly problem-solving competitions at camp, and both are team competitions. (Participation, like everything else at camp, is optional!) More about problem solving at camp: https://www.mathcamp.org/math/problem_solving/
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:19:54
We do also offer a handful of problem-solving classes throughout the summer. (But most classes are not about problem solving, they're about the kind of math that you'll meet in college and grad school.)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:21:19
In terms of applications, we do ask about your contest math background, but it's not a major factor. It just tells us about one facet of how you engage with math.
asimov 2022-02-13 13:21:34
__/12/usa: Approximately what level is the math curriculum? is it geared to competition math? if so, what contest level would it be?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:21:55
I honestly don't know the answer here about comparable level, because competitions are pretty orthogonal to research math.
Champagne2021 2022-02-13 13:22:05
Jingyi Zhao / 16/ Washington state / Sammamish: Is there a rough ratio of each math topics in the camp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:22:40
That's really a question for the academic coordinators! But typically it's a balance of: Algebra, Topology, Analysis, Combinatorics, Applied Math.
Gramdino 2022-02-13 13:22:54
_/12/usa: Does this offer any college credit?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:22:59
No, we do not offer credit.
roshen_nair 2022-02-13 13:23:07
Can family visit during the camp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:23:30
Sure! But we don't have overnight accommodations for them.
Sigma_Monkey 2022-02-13 13:23:59
Does getting into Mathcamp help with the application process to universities such as MIT or Caltech?
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 13:23:59
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: Does attending this summer camp help up in the future as for example I apply to a university by mentioning that I have been to this summer camp does it count as a + to the application like competitions do?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:24:34
Our students to end up at great colleges, we don't take the credit for that: the kinds of students who come to Mathcamp are really passionate and driven, and they're already on the road to the colleges of their choice.
zkishiyeva8 2022-02-13 13:24:43
Zulfiyya / 17 / Azerbaijan: Does the program change every year?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:24:53
Yes! Both the math and the social activities change from year to year.
JohnnyTase 2022-02-13 13:25:02
JohnnyTase's mom / California: Following up on Roshen_Nair - If I were to travel to Maine, could I take my kid off for a weekend and bring him back after?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:25:48
Yep! (This year, there will be some interaction with our Covid protocols, so leaving and returning will add some extra Covid tests, but that's fine.)
Overlord123 2022-02-13 13:26:01
Biswadev / Grade 8 (age 14) / North Carolina / Will physics knowledge be useful? I have a strong physics background.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:26:14
Sure, lots of people at Mathcamp like physics!
Ahmed.Metwally 2022-02-13 13:26:20
How many hours are we supposed to spend studying individually and in classes?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:26:40
It varies widely from student to student, and it's totally up to you.
Edjhol 2022-02-13 13:26:52
Is there a Galois Theory class?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:27:15
Often, yes! (But not every year.) If Galois Theory isn't on the class schedule, you can always do an independent project on the topic.
MuniaG 2022-02-13 13:27:19
Adrija/16/India: can we find the teachers after the class for queries?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:28:14
Yes! There's an organized time to find instructors called "TAU" (https://www.mathcamp.org/math/tau/), and you can really find instructors around at any time. (That's one of the fun parts of a residential camp: you'll be eating lunch with your instructors, going on hikes with your instructors, and so on.)
Spakian 2022-02-13 13:28:17
Stephen/15/USA: Will we do any research at MathCamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:28:53
You can! Here's info about projects: https://www.mathcamp.org/math/projects/
Sophie12345 2022-02-13 13:28:57
Sophie/Grade 11/Canada: what is the average age of students who attend the camp
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:29:15
Most students at camp are in the 16–17 range, but we have students as young as 13 and as old as 19. The distribution will give you a better sense, so here's some data:
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:29:22
On the first day of Mathcamp 2020, there were:



1 campers age 13

2 campers age 14

22 campers age 15

32 campers age 16

39 campers age 17

19 campers age 18

5 campers age 19



On the first day of Mathcamp 2021:



3 campers age 13

7 campers age 14

22 campers age 15

39 campers age 16

32 campers age 17

9 campers age 18

0 campers age 19
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:29:25
Those are pretty typical distributions of ages at Mathcamp.
Jndd 2022-02-13 13:29:37
Monke / 13 / Canada: What's it like to stay with a roommate at Mathcamp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:30:07
We hope it's really fun! We work hard on making good roommate pairs. :)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:30:18
First, you're matched by age and gender. Then we send a questionnaire to our admitted students (it's part of registration) to get info about second-order considerations: how tidy do you prefer to keep your room? Do you like to have friends hang out in your room in the evenings, or use your room as a quiet study space? What time do you like to go to bed and get up? And: which of these things is most important to you?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:30:24
You also have the option to request to have specific roommates (which we'll honor if they request you in return, so coordinate in advance!) or to avoid specific roommates (which we'll always honor).
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:30:29
We offer options for both single-gender and mixed-gender halls.
mika_g 2022-02-13 13:30:49
Are there music rooms?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:30:51
Yes!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:31:18
We have already reserved a rehearsal room on campus with a piano for groups, and individual practice rooms. We'll also have a keyboard in the dorm for practicing. (We have a piano in a social lounge, too, but it's less frequently used for serious practice and more often for Les Mis / Disney / Taylor Swift singalongs.)
tshamsu24 2022-02-13 13:31:54
are most of the classes structured in a lecture-like manner or is it more working through stuff together?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:32:21
It's definitely a mix! Our faculty get to pick not just their course topics, but also their approach to teaching: some give more traditionally-structured classes, with a presentation by the instructor every day, and others might not involve any lecture at all! Lots of our class es focus on inquiry-based learning, where the students themselves are the ones discovering concepts, solving problems, and presenting proofs. Some students really like these interactive classes and some don't, so we make sure to offer classes in a variety of different styles.
tshamsu24 2022-02-13 13:32:35
Will we be able to have one-on-one sessions with the instructors?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:32:53
Yes! You can always arrange time to meet with individual instructors.
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 13:33:10
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: As a thriving basketball player can I maybe wake up a big early or maybe in some other time practice in the basketball court, since I need to keep up with what my couch tells me?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:33:57
You can definitely make the time at camp to keep up with your regular practice routine! And we will help you get access to the right equipment and spaces. (I remember taking a camper once to rent a cello.)
Andrew3000 2022-02-13 13:34:06
Andrew / 17/ California: About how many MathCamp students have attended other math summer programs such as MathPath?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:34:36
I didn't look up data about that before this session, and off the top of my head, I don't remember exactly. I'd guess about 50% of new students have previously attended another summer program.
PrathaHegde 2022-02-13 13:34:50
What books or other supplies that one has to bring to the class? Or would these be provided at the camp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:35:30
We'll provide academic materials! And if there's anything you don't have (like a pencil), you can grab it at the Mathcamp office; we have extra supplies. Here's the packing list: https://www.mathcamp.org/current_program/what_to_bring/
mathleticguyyy 2022-02-13 13:35:35
Is there room to host activities for other campers?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:36:09
YES! One of the best things about Mathcamp is that the students themselves organize lots of the activities.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:36:53
Okay, let's take a few more questions about the program itself, and then we'll move on to the application process. (I see some application-related questions in the queue; I'll get to y'all in the second half of the event.)
SZ1218 2022-02-13 13:37:00
David/17/Canada:Is there grade limit at Mathcamp,is grade 12 still good?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:37:29
Yes, grade 12 is still good! Here are the specific eligibility criteria: https://www.mathcamp.org/admission/eligibility/
PrathaHegde 2022-02-13 13:37:32
Is there any provisions for vegetarian food at the campus?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:37:45
Yes! (And I'm a vegetarian, so this is a high-priority item for me.)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:38:07
Ditto vegan, gluten-free, nut-free, kosher, halal.
Blueshark_ 2022-02-13 13:38:11
where is the math camp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:38:25
It'll be at Colby College this summer, in Waterville, Maine; the location changes from year to year.
Lucasfunnyface 2022-02-13 13:38:28
How much free time do the students have?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:39:07
Lots! Your time is very flexible. Mathcamp has a structure, to be sure, but you get to pick and choose which (and how many) classes and activities to do.
cloudwind101 2022-02-13 13:39:11
What other math programs for teenagers do you know about and recommend?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:39:40
Ooh, that's a question that will nerdsnipe me: I'm particularly interested in the ecosystem of math enrichment programs. :)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:40:17
You might think of these programs as sorting into three categories -- competition programs, single-focus programs (like PROMYS and Ross, which have a Number Theory curriculum, and both of which I recommend), and broader programs (like HCSSiM and MathILy, also both excellent). Mathcamp is in the 'broad' category. Here's a big list of summer programs (of all sorts): https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Mathematics_summer_program
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:40:26
All of the summer math enrichment programs are places where you get to dive into interesting math and meet like-minded peers.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:40:36
What makes Mathcamp unusual is the extraordinary amount of academic and personal freedom that students have. You design your own curriculum; you decide how to spend your time.
Ian_John 2022-02-13 13:40:51
Ian/15/ Mexico State, Mexico : I'm currently learning German, and I was wondering if I could join a language class so I can keep on learning this summer
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:41:44
In terms of activities at Mathcamp: we often have an event called "language tables" where you sit at a particular table to have lunch in a particular language. So you could absolutely start a German table!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:42:46
In terms of making time for other activities while you're at camp: it's certainly possible to do outside studying while you're at Mathcamp. It's difficult, though, because camp is full of activities that you won't want to miss, and prioritizing time is hard (for everybody – I'm talking about myself here, too).
Chocolatte 2022-02-13 13:43:15
when will we find out if we got in our not?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:43:22
All applications received on or before March 10th receive equal consideration, and we'll announce decisions on April 14th this year.
JohnnyTase 2022-02-13 13:43:53
JohnnyTase's mom / California: Just wondering what the fabulous staff does when it is not summer / MathCamp time? What are some of your career paths?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:44:19
Aww, thanks for asking! Many of the staff are themselves students in the off-season: our JCs are all college students, and our Mentors are math grad students.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:44:39
The faculty are mostly also in academia; some are postdocs, others are professors.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:45:00
And a few of us are full-time at Mathcamp. :)
Aaron_lsy 2022-02-13 13:45:03
Can you advise if you have a location in Toronto?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:45:16
We welcome students from Toronto! But we only have one location per year (and this year, it's in Maine).
Moon-Girl 2022-02-13 13:45:22
just clarifying ages 13-19 are the only ages allowed to go right?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:45:26
That's right.
ThePingu 2022-02-13 13:45:34
Is this open for people outside of the USA?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:45:37
Yes!
tshamsu24 2022-02-13 13:45:40
how many classes does an average student take throughout the program?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:45:53
It really varies, but I'd say 3 classes per week is pretty typical.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:46:11
Thanks for all the questions about the program, everybody!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:46:15
Let's spend about 1:45 - 2:15 on questions about applications and financial aid: eligibility, the application process, scholarships. (And then we'll open up to any kinds of questions before we wrap up.)
Valerie07 2022-02-13 13:46:37
Natalia/Parent/USA Do you consider factors outside of your Quiz in the admission process? My kid did not study number theory at school, but she took AP Calculus Ab and BC. It seems like the Quiz is not quite determinative of her capabilities because of the subject matter.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:47:08
We consider all sorts of factors in the application process! Quiz, essay, math background, recommendation letters – everything counts, and gives us a holistic view.
fastnfurious1 2022-02-13 13:47:22
Matt/15/US. since it’s super competitive to get in, what do you value most? Scores, curiosity, or previous research experience?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:47:37
All of the above! But if I had to pick one of those, I'd pick curiosity.
roshen_nair 2022-02-13 13:47:47
In the application, should I mention any state/national achievements that I have that are outside math (for example: in chess)?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:48:14
Sure! If it's important to you, then that tells us something about who you are as a person, and how you've spent your time and energy recently.
JohnnyTase 2022-02-13 13:48:18
JohnnyTase's mom / California: How many new students apply each year?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:48:35
It varies! Usually about 500.
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 13:48:45
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: What are the statistical chances of getting in?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:49:10
This varies with the number of applicants (which sometimes spikes up) and the number of spots (which varies, but is always at least 65).
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:49:22
But it's usually around 10–15%.
mathleticguyyy 2022-02-13 13:49:26
On average, how many times will first-year campers have applied to the program before?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:49:46
Hmm, that's a good question, and I didn't look it up. I'd guess 1/3 of the admitted students are repeat applicants.
TETris5 2022-02-13 13:49:56
Is one recommendation letter enough?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:50:07
No, we require two recommendations: one mathematical and one personal letter.
Juno 2022-02-13 13:50:12
___/14/US: Even if I can't go this summer, should I still apply?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:50:30
No, we recommend you apply only if you are likely to consider a spot if you are offered one.
Andrew3000 2022-02-13 13:50:38
Are there options to add a third recommendation letter?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:51:44
It is possible, yes, and if there's a specific reason you need a different recommender to convey something about your background and experience, that's fine: email us (admissions22@mathcamp.org) and we'll sort it out. But it rarely makes a difference in admission, so this isn't something people should generally need to worry about.
Sophie12345 2022-02-13 13:52:02
Sophie/16/Canada: For the past years, how many students are accepted from Canada? What are the key evaluation criteria?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:52:49
We usually end up with a handful of Canadian students each year. (The admit rate for Canada is about the same as the admit rate for other countries; we just see fewer Canadian applicants.) Same evaluation criteria as for students worldwide!
Aaron_lsy 2022-02-13 13:53:15
What is qualification test for admission?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:53:34
It's this: https://www.mathcamp.org/qualifying_quiz/
Ericsz 2022-02-13 13:53:44
how important is the quiz in the application process, and how many questions must I be able to solve to get in.
knightlev 2022-02-13 13:53:44
What percentage of the questions should I be able to answer (on the Quiz) to answer to know if I'm good fit for the program?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:54:02
It's hard to say "you need to answer this many questions", because when we look at the entire Quiz taken as a whole, we're looking for more abstract qualities: persistence; creativity; sound reasoning.
smartguy888 2022-02-13 13:54:12
Sriram Kalki/15/US If we use a computer program to aid us in a problem, should we send a link to our source code?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:54:17
Yes, please!
tshamsu24 2022-02-13 13:54:38
what teacher/person is the personal recommendation letter supposed to be from? should it be another subject we're interested in or some activity that is kind of random?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:55:05
Personal recommendations by an adult who knows you in a non-classroom context. Here's a page with lots more details and suggestions: https://www.mathcamp.org/admission/recommendations/ If you have an unusual recommendation situation not covered by that page, email us at admissions22@mathcamp.org and we'll discuss individually what's right for you.
Champagne2021 2022-02-13 13:55:17
Using programming is acceptable?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:55:34
Yes, but see https://www.mathcamp.org/qualifying_quiz/using_computers/ for our thoughts on this topic.
Chocolatte 2022-02-13 13:56:10
o.O /15/Texas: what's the average number of quiz questions you need to solve to get in?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:56:15
In broad strokes: most successful applicants do try every or almost every question, and make significant progress on several. But you'll find anecdotal evidence on all of the extremes: we have admitted students who solved only a few Quiz problems, and not admitted students with very strong Quizzes.
yuchang 2022-02-13 13:56:26
Chang / 14 / CA: are AMC or other key math competition scores required? How is that weighted in the admission?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:56:37
The Mathcamp application has an optional box for you to tell us about your competition background, but it's not a major part of the application. (There are plenty of Mathcampers who left that box blank when they applied!) It's just one more way for us to learn about the kinds of math that you do.
TETris5 2022-02-13 13:56:44
How many recommendation letters do we need? Is there a bound? The more the better?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:57:01
Two is the required number, and usually also the optimal number.
mathleticguyyy 2022-02-13 13:57:07
Does getting waitlisted last year have an impact on my chances at getting in this year?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:57:25
We always appreciate when students apply more than once; it shows persistence!
Lionking212 2022-02-13 13:57:45
Can we use a calculator?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:57:47
Yes.
Edjhol 2022-02-13 13:57:49
On the qualifying quiz, are "beautiful" solutions more highly weighted (e.g. succinct/mature mathematical reasoning, abstraction)?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:58:37
The readers always do appreciate a succinct solution. But sometimes brute force is the way to get things done!
alphaone001 2022-02-13 13:58:45
how important are recommendations?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:59:18
Recommendations can be really helpful for us to get an outside perspective on your mathematical and personal maturity.
Ian_John 2022-02-13 13:59:22
Ian/15/ Mexico State: Can we apply even if we are studying college?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 13:59:35
Yes! See https://www.mathcamp.org/admission/early_college/ for more info.
Ericsz 2022-02-13 14:00:00
What kind of typeset is the best, such as latex or handwritten
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:00:11
We're flexible! As long as we can read your solutions, we're happy.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:00:21
The important thing is to upload your Quiz file as a PDF.
Squidkid123 2022-02-13 14:00:27
What level is a typical accepted candidate? AIME, USAMO, or something else?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:00:40
It's a real mix: some of our campers are really serious about contests (and some of those are IMO gold medalists!); others have never taken a single AMC exam. In terms of admissions, contest scores are not a significant criterion for us—we use our own Qualifying Quiz instead—so we don't keep track of statistics on our campers.
Sia22 2022-02-13 14:01:01
Beatriz/15/Madrid: Is the personal recomendation letter allowed to be written by my academic tutor?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:01:18
We encourage you to select a personal recommender who knows you in a context outside of classes.
nprime06 2022-02-13 14:01:25
approximate weight on each factor? (quiz, rec letters, etc)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:02:48
Spicy take: equal weight on {Quiz, Essay} and half weight on {Recs, Other background}? But that's a goofy answer; in reality, we just try to understand each applicant as a person. Sometimes we learn more from one section than we do from another.
Ericsz 2022-02-13 14:02:52
in our solutions do you want to see our full thought process or just solutions?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:03:39
It's helpful to see some of your thinking so that we can celebrate your partial progress. (But you don't need to send us the first ten pages of your 2am rambling explorations.)
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 14:03:45
How in-depth do you want us to go in the explanation part of the quiz? (Why that way, is there a easier way to do this from the start (should we discuss that))
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:04:17
I'd say that a brief narrative could be fun, but mostly we just want to read your solutions. (But you can put that narrative part into your essay, if that seems like a natural fit!)
mathleticguyyy 2022-02-13 14:04:23
Does handwriting have an impact on admissions?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:04:32
Nope, as long as it's legible. (But please don't torture the readers.)
Rinnypig 2022-02-13 14:04:47
Is there something specific that is being looked for in the applicants? Something such as prior knowledge of mathematics or drive to learn more about it?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:05:53
We do expect a base amount of background knowledge so that we know students will be comfortable in Mathcamp classes; that's one aspect of what we're assessing in the application process.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:06:10
But drive to learn more is the other half of what we're looking for!
Squidkid123 2022-02-13 14:06:14
Is having taken Precalculus a requirement?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:06:58
Having equivalent knowledge of Precalc is a requirement. But you don't have to officially take a class on it. (Though if you're looking for one: the AoPS precalc class is very good!)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:07:18
When you apply to Mathcamp, we don't ask for transcripts or standardized test scores (because we don't think they will help us to predict which applicants are ready for Mathcamp classes). Instead, we use the Quiz and your academic recommendation letter to give us a picture of your preparation. So we won't even know if you've taken an official Precalculus class; we'll ask you to self-report content knowledge.
Ian_John 2022-02-13 14:07:22
Ian/15/ Mexico State: Does financial aid come in preset percentages, like, you can either get 10%, 20%, 50%, or full financial aid or are they completely personalized, allowing things like 48%, 13%, etc.?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:07:39
Completely personalized; we just meet each family's demonstrated need.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:08:07
OK, let's take a few more questions about the application process and then we'll open it up to questions on any (Mathcamp-related) topic.
SHZhang 2022-02-13 14:08:12
As a 2021 camper, I would like to encourage people to not be intimidated by how competitive-looking the admission process seems to be, or how hard the math topics sound like. After coming to camp, you will see just how approachable (and cool) these scary-sounding subjects are! Also, just because you aren't the best at math competitions doesn't mean Mathcamp is not for you; while lots of us do contests, the math at Mathcamp is quite different from the math there.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:08:22
*waves* hi, thanks for sharing!
ohe3789 2022-02-13 14:08:28
Former mathcamper and JC dropping by to say that mathcamp is amazing!!!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:08:42
*waves* yay, hello!
Valerie07 2022-02-13 14:09:00
Natalia/Parent/USA Do you consider factors outside of the Quiz in the admission process?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:09:53
Yes! The Quiz is our best tool for assessing where a student is mathematically, but we gather lots of other data—like rec letters, and student's self-reported background—and consider whether a student is a good fit for the program, both mathematically and personally.
Sia22 2022-02-13 14:11:04
Beatriz/15/Madrid: How will we know if we were admitted ?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:11:33
We'll announce admissions decisions by email (and you can log into your appsys.mathcamp.org account to see your decision, too).
discula2020 2022-02-13 14:11:41
If someone apply this year can get in but due to circumstance the student could not attend this year, does the student need to apply again next year?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:12:08
Yes, you would need to reapply. (We don't usually defer acceptances.)
roshen_nair 2022-02-13 14:12:21
Recently, while working on the qualification quiz, I encountered a problem where I was a bit confused by the word choice of the question. If I have any questions about the problems on the qualification quiz, who should I contact?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:12:52
Ooh, there's a system for that! First, check https://www.mathcamp.org/qualifying_quiz/faq_answers/ to see if there's already an answer to your question. If not, then submit your question at https://www.mathcamp.org/qualifying_quiz/ask_a_question/.
Baileypup 2022-02-13 14:13:11
What is the average number of "waitlisted" individuals do you accept in a typical year?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:13:52
That varies a lot from year to year, and depends on how many offers of admission in the first round are accepted. But we usually are able to accept a handful of students from the waitlist.
Shotikosikhaaa 2022-02-13 14:13:57
When do we have deadline for applications
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:14:07
The deadline to apply is March 10th – about a month away!
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 14:14:14
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: As a mathematical background can I use olympiads that are not international since in my country almost all the math olympiads are only as baltic Olympics not international?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:14:48
Yes, you can write down any olympiad experience that has been important for you in the math background section.
MuniaG 2022-02-13 14:15:00
Adrija/16/India: Have kids from India been accepted before?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:15:02
Yep!
Ian_John 2022-02-13 14:15:33
Ian/15/ Mexico State: Do you ask for a school transcript in the application process?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:15:36
Nope.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:15:37
Okay! Thanks, everybody, for all the questions about the application process.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:15:41
The field is open for *any* questions you have about Mathcamp, and we'll wrap up around 2:30pm ET.
tshamsu24 2022-02-13 14:16:09
what is the workload like? how many hours for homework per night?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:16:49
This is totally up to you! Most students do some of their problem sets during TAU, and might spend some time in the evening working on math, but might also participate in (or organize!) social activities.
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 14:16:59
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: Should you include how hard was the quiz and how long it took you to do it?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:17:20
If that's something you want to share in your essay, you are welcome to write about it. (But no pressure.)
Shotikosikhaaa 2022-02-13 14:17:25
Is this campus beneficial for future universities ?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:18:42
Our students generally do write down on college applications that they attended summer programs during middle/high school, but that's not a good reason to come to Mathcamp. (If you're going to get into Mathcamp, you're likely also already on the road to a good college.)
LivelyQuotient 2022-02-13 14:18:45
If you apply and get accepted, but something else comes up and you aren't able to go, is that a disadvantage on future applications?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:19:05
Nope, that's fine; it happens for a few students each year (and that's how others get in off the waitlist!).
ThePingu 2022-02-13 14:19:21
What's the level like?
Moon-Girl 2022-02-13 14:19:21
what grade level is the math at
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:19:39
Every Mathcamp has a different class schedule, but the classes always come from a range of topics appropriate to a range of different mathematical backgrounds. Many classes will have no prerequisites (other than high-school algebra or precalculus); others will require some pretty intense knowledge of advanced mathematics. (Though almost always, the appropriate prerequisites will be offered as Mathcamp classes earlier in camp!) The result is that you can fill a schedule that works for you and your math background, whatever it may be. To get a sense of the variety of class offerings, take a look at last year's class schedule and descriptions: https://www.mathcamp.org/2021/classes/
CoubyPlayz 2022-02-13 14:19:45
Sebastjans / 16 / Latvija: As students are we allowed to take our computers with us since some of us maybe have to keep up with the programming competitions?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:20:36
Yes, students are welcome to bring computers! This is good for emailing your family to stay in touch, but you could also use a computer for programming competitions.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:20:57
That said, you might not have a lot of time for outside-of-camp activities, so depending on your summer competition schedule, that might be a factor for you to consider.
Champagne2021 2022-02-13 14:21:04
Jingyi Zhao / 16/ Washington state / Sammamish: What about the format of the Mathcamp ?Is there a group discussion session every day? How long is the teacher's lecture each day ?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:22:37
There's a *big* variety of classes offered each week, and students choose their own classes. The length of a class is typically 50 minutes, but some classes are longer ("marathons" is what we call those, informally).
ThePingu 2022-02-13 14:22:52
How competitive is the selection process? What % of applicants are offered places?
Shotikosikhaaa 2022-02-13 14:22:52
What is acceptance rate ??
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:23:03
It's usually 10–15%; it depends how many applications we get.
Ian_John 2022-02-13 14:23:13
Ian/15/ Mexico State: Can I send my transcript along with my application? It's just that I'm an IB student and I think it would give some really good insight into my academic strengths.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:23:48
You can email admissions22@mathcamp.org if you think there's an important supplement, but we would strongly prefer that you simply write about your background in the provided sections for describing your experience.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:23:56
(This saves us a lot of time.)
MathsSolver007 2022-02-13 14:24:05
where can i apply?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:24:17
Here you go: https://www.mathcamp.org/admission/apply_now/
MuniaG 2022-02-13 14:24:28
Adrija/16/India: what happens during 'sign in'?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:25:50
This is a daily check-in, where each student shows up to say hi and touch base with a Mathcamp staff member. We'll give you any announcements (both general purpose "don't forget that field trip sign-ups close tonight" and specific "you have a package, you can pick it up at the Mathcamp office"), and you'll take some time to write down brief reflections on the math you did that day. More info here: https://www.mathcamp.org/student_life/signin_and_assembly/
Ian_John 2022-02-13 14:25:57
Ian/15/ Mexico State: Do you think I will have some time in the weekends 1-2 hours to play online with some of my friends? (not really necessary, just to keep in touch with them)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:26:00
Yep!
PrathaHegde 2022-02-13 14:26:03
Since there are variety of classes offered each week, would there be a limit of students per class and result in not getting to the class that is opted or most prefered?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:26:21
There are no limits on the number of students per class, which means that some very popular classes are quite large, and other classes are quite small.
vtlev 2022-02-13 14:26:27
Where is mathcamp being held this year?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:26:36
Here: https://www.colby.edu/
Chocolatte 2022-02-13 14:26:42
for the personal rec, if we ask an adult who doesn't speak good English, can we have them write it in their native language and translate it ourselves?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:27:33
Students can *obtain* translations into English. (For example, a student may have a teacher in their school complete the translation; the student and their family members cannot translate the material themselves.) It is fine to have the recommender submit a letter in their native language through the regular system and have a translator email the translated recommendation to admissions22@mathcamp.org; we will add the translation to the appropriate file.
SteveParent1495 2022-02-13 14:28:07
What do mathcampers do on most weekends?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:29:04
Well, first, both weekend days (that's Sunday and Monday for us) have field trips. Those are optional, like everything else at Mathcamp! But really fun.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:29:47
Sometimes, students choose to spend time on the weekends working on research projects, or talking with their instructors and peers about classes they've been taking.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:30:05
There are also *tons* of social activities on the weekends, scheduled both by students and by staff.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:30:23
And of course sleeping is a high-priority weekend activity!
roshen_nair 2022-02-13 14:30:31
How are recommendations submitted (do the recommenders submit their letters directly via some link)? Or do they send it to us and then we submit it along with our application process?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:30:56
This is built into the online system, yes. You'll put your recommendation writers' email addresses into the system, and it will generate emails to them. (It's similar to college apps.)
Shotikosikhaaa 2022-02-13 14:31:00
Marisa thank you so much ror answering questions and I am interested when and where do we take tests?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:31:40
Thanks! I'm glad this has been helpful. You can get started on your Quiz any time: it's untimed, and you can do it at your own pace.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:31:51
Read more in the instructions here: https://www.mathcamp.org/qualifying_quiz/instructions/
PrathaHegde 2022-02-13 14:31:57
Can parent accompany the first and last day of the camp?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:32:00
Yes!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:32:12
OK folks, last call for quick questions.
Deadfall 2022-02-13 14:32:33
Will we get a copy of all the questions and answers discussed here?
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:32:52
Yes, this transcript will be posted on AoPS (and we'll link to it from https://www.mathcamp.org/about_mathcamp/mathjams/).
nikbot05 2022-02-13 14:33:15
nikbot/16/CA : are you allowed to use python to derive answers for the quiz(with citations of course, then use math to prove them)
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:33:17
Yep.
roshen_nair 2022-02-13 14:33:39
Thank you so much for your time! Excited to work on the problems and hopefully get admitted to mathcamp this year!
Baileypup 2022-02-13 14:33:39
Thanks, Marisa! You've been so helpful and informative:) Mathcamp's website is excellent, too. Very well designed, with answers available to so many questions... right at our fingertips! Kudos to the web developers, and the stellar Mathcamp staff who've created such a rich experience for our children!
PrathaHegde 2022-02-13 14:33:39
Thanks Marisa for answering all the questions.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:33:47
Thanks, everybody! Great to chat with you all today.
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:33:58
Thanks for spending your morning/afternoon/evening with us!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:34:05
If we didn't get to your question, feel free to email admissions22@mathcamp.org and we'll be happy to continue the conversation. You can also post questions in the Mathcamp forum here on AoPS; the Mathcamp staff will post replies, and you'll get student opinions, too. Here's the forum: http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/community/c135_mathcamp
VideoGideo 2022-02-13 14:34:08
Thank you, Marisa!
Deadfall 2022-02-13 14:34:19
Thank you!
zkishiyeva8 2022-02-13 14:34:19
Thank you!!!
Andrew3000 2022-02-13 14:34:19
Thank you!
Champagne2021 2022-02-13 14:34:29
Thank you, Marisa! Super helpful.
yuchang 2022-02-13 14:34:32
Thank you!
MuniaG 2022-02-13 14:34:32
Thanks a lot Marisa!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:34:56
Sure thing, folks. And thanks to @AniaLen for answering lots of side questions, and thanks again to @rkuroyama for hosting.
SteveParent1495 2022-02-13 14:35:07
Thanks very much, Marisa!
Zerk 2022-02-13 14:35:07
Thank you!
MarisaD 2022-02-13 14:35:18
Have a good afternoon/evening/night, everybody!

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