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== Solution ==
 
== Solution ==
 
For now, assume that face F has a 6 on it and that the face opposite F has a 1 on it.  Let A(n) be the probability of rolling a number n on one die and let B(n) be the probability of rolling a number n on the other die.  One way of getting a 7 is to get a 2 on die A and a 5 on die B.  The probability of this happening is A(2)*B(5)=1/6*1/6=1/36=8/288.  Conversely, one can get a 7 by getting a  2 on die B and a 5 on die A, the probability of which is also 8/288.  Getting 7 with a 3 on die A and a 4 on die B also has a probability of  8/288, as does getting a 7 with a 4 on die A and a 3 on die B.  Subtracting all these probabilities from 47/288 leaves a 15/288=5/96 chance of getting a 1 on die A and a 6 on die B or a 6 on die A and a 1 on die B:
 
For now, assume that face F has a 6 on it and that the face opposite F has a 1 on it.  Let A(n) be the probability of rolling a number n on one die and let B(n) be the probability of rolling a number n on the other die.  One way of getting a 7 is to get a 2 on die A and a 5 on die B.  The probability of this happening is A(2)*B(5)=1/6*1/6=1/36=8/288.  Conversely, one can get a 7 by getting a  2 on die B and a 5 on die A, the probability of which is also 8/288.  Getting 7 with a 3 on die A and a 4 on die B also has a probability of  8/288, as does getting a 7 with a 4 on die A and a 3 on die B.  Subtracting all these probabilities from 47/288 leaves a 15/288=5/96 chance of getting a 1 on die A and a 6 on die B or a 6 on die A and a 1 on die B:
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A(6)*B(1)+B(6)*A(1)=5/96
 
A(6)*B(1)+B(6)*A(1)=5/96
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Since both die are the same, this reduces to:
 
Since both die are the same, this reduces to:
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2*A(6)*A(1)=5/96
 
2*A(6)*A(1)=5/96
 
A(6)*A(1)=5/192
 
A(6)*A(1)=5/192
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But we know that A(2)=A(3)=A(4)=A(5)=1/6, so:
 
But we know that A(2)=A(3)=A(4)=A(5)=1/6, so:
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A(6)+A(1)=1/3
 
A(6)+A(1)=1/3
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Now, combine the two equations:
 
Now, combine the two equations:
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A(1)=1/3-A(6)
 
A(1)=1/3-A(6)
 
A(6)*(1/3-A(6))=5/192
 
A(6)*(1/3-A(6))=5/192
Solving the above equation gives A(6)=5/24, so the answer is 29.
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A(6)/3-A(6)^2=5/192
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A(6)^2-A(6)/3+5/192=0
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A(6)=5/24, 1/8
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We know that A(6)>1/6, so it can't be 1/8.  Therefore, it has to be 5/24 and the answer is 5+24=29.
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==

Revision as of 18:45, 1 August 2006

Problem

When rolling a certain unfair six-sided die with faces numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6, the probability of obtaining face $F$ is greater than 1/6, the probability of obtaining the face opposite is less than 1/6, the probability of obtaining any one of the other four faces is 1/6, and the sum of the numbers on opposite faces is 7. When two such dice are rolled, the probability of obtaining a sum of 7 is 47/288. Given that the probability of obtaining face $F$ is $m/n,$ where $m$ and $n$ are relatively prime positive integers, find $m+n.$


Solution

For now, assume that face F has a 6 on it and that the face opposite F has a 1 on it. Let A(n) be the probability of rolling a number n on one die and let B(n) be the probability of rolling a number n on the other die. One way of getting a 7 is to get a 2 on die A and a 5 on die B. The probability of this happening is A(2)*B(5)=1/6*1/6=1/36=8/288. Conversely, one can get a 7 by getting a 2 on die B and a 5 on die A, the probability of which is also 8/288. Getting 7 with a 3 on die A and a 4 on die B also has a probability of 8/288, as does getting a 7 with a 4 on die A and a 3 on die B. Subtracting all these probabilities from 47/288 leaves a 15/288=5/96 chance of getting a 1 on die A and a 6 on die B or a 6 on die A and a 1 on die B:

A(6)*B(1)+B(6)*A(1)=5/96

Since both die are the same, this reduces to:

2*A(6)*A(1)=5/96 A(6)*A(1)=5/192

But we know that A(2)=A(3)=A(4)=A(5)=1/6, so:

A(6)+A(1)=1/3

Now, combine the two equations:

A(1)=1/3-A(6) A(6)*(1/3-A(6))=5/192 A(6)/3-A(6)^2=5/192 A(6)^2-A(6)/3+5/192=0 A(6)=5/24, 1/8

We know that A(6)>1/6, so it can't be 1/8. Therefore, it has to be 5/24 and the answer is 5+24=29.

See also