# Difference between revisions of "2011 AIME II Problems/Problem 5"

## Problem

The sum of the first $2011$ terms of a geometric sequence is $200$. The sum of the first $4022$ terms is $380$. Find the sum of the first $6033$ terms.

## Solution

Since the sum of the first $2011$ terms is $200$, and the sum of the fist $4022$ terms is $380$, the sum of the second $2011$ terms is $180$. This is decreasing from the first 2011, so the common ratio is less than one.

Because it is a geometric sequence and the sum of the first 2011 terms is $200$, second $2011$ is $180$, the ratio of the second $2011$ terms to the first $2011$ terms is $\frac{9}{10}$. Following the same pattern, the sum of the third $2011$ terms is $\frac{9}{10}*180 = 162$.

Thus, $200+180+162=542$, so the sum of the first $6033$ terms is $\boxed{542}$.

## Solution 2

Solution by e_power_pi_times_i

The sum of the first $2011$ terms can be written as $\dfrac{a_1(1-k^{2011})}{1-k}$, and the first $4022$ terms can be written as $\dfrac{a_1(1-k^{4022})}{1-k}$. Dividing these equations, we get $\dfrac{1-k^{2011}}{1-k^{4022}} = \dfrac{10}{19}$. Noticing that $k^{4022}$ is just the square of $k^{2011}$, we substitute $x = k^{2011}$, so $\dfrac{1}{x+1} = \dfrac{10}{19}$. That means that $k^{2011} = \dfrac{9}{10}$. Since the sum of the first $6033$ terms can be written as $\dfrac{a_1(1-k^{6033})}{1-k}$, dividing gives $\dfrac{1-k^{2011}}{1-k^{6033}}$. Since $k^{6033} = \dfrac{729}{1000}$, plugging all the values in gives $\boxed{542}$.

## Solution 3

The sum of the first 2011 terms of the sequence is expressible as $a_1 + a_1r + a_1r^2 + a_1r^3$ .... until $a_1r^{2010}$. The sum of the 2011 terms following the first 2011 is expressible as $a_1r^{2011} + a_1r^{2012} + a_1r^{2013}$ .... until $a_1r^{4021}$. Notice that the latter sum of terms can be expressed as $(r^{2011})(a_1 + a_1r + a_1r^2 + a_1r^3...a_1r^{2010})$. We also know that the latter sum of terms can be obtained by subtracting 200 from 180, which then means that $r^{2011} = 9/10$. The terms from 4023 to 6033 can be expressed as $(r^{4022})(a_1 + a_1r + a_1r^2 + a_1r^3...a_1r^{2010})$, which is equivalent to $((9/10)^2)(200) = 162$. Adding 380 and 162 gives the answer of $\boxed{542}$.