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Canada/USA Mathcamp Program Director Marisa Debowsky describes the Mathcamp summer program for high school math students.

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Facilitator: Marisa Debowsky

LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:30:41
Hello and welcome to the Canada/USA Mathcamp Math Jam!
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:30:55
Before I introduce our guests, let me briefly explain how our online classroom works.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:31:16
This room is moderated, which means that all your questions and comments come to the moderators. We may share your comments with the whole room if we so choose.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:31:23
Also, you'll find that you can adjust the classroom windows in a variety of ways, and can adjust the font size by clicking the A icons atop the main window.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:31:34
Canada/USA Mathcamp is an intensive five-week-long summer program for high-school students interested in mathematics, designed to expose students to the beauty of advanced mathematical ideas and to new ways of thinking. You can learn more about Canada/USA Mathcamp at www.mathcamp.org.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:31:43
In this Math Jam, Canada/USA Mathcamp staff will lead a discussion about their outstanding program. Many AoPS instructors, assistants, and students are alumni of Mathcamp, including me!
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:31:50
For now, please hold your questions -- they'll let you know when you can start asking questions. Also, due to the number of people attending tonight, they may not be able to get to every question.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:31:55
And now let me introduce our guests!
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:32:01
Marisa Debowsky (MarisaD) started teaching at Mathcamp in '06 and has been the director of the program since 2009. If you have been writing emails to Mathcamp, she's probably been answering them.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:32:10
Jalex Stark (khanh93) was a Mathcamp student in '12 and '13 and a JC (= counselor) in '14 and '15. They are currently a third-year math major at Caltech, where they run the annual Caltech Harvey Mudd Math Competition. This summer, they will work as a counselor at Bridge to Enter Advanced Mathematics (BEAM), a math summer camp for underprivileged 7th graders in New York City.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:32:16
Yulia Gorlina (ygorlina) was a Mathcamp student in '99 - '01 and staff in '02 - '04. She went to Caltech for undergrad, and then the University of Arizona for grad school, where she got a Ph.D. in math. She's now a Business Intelligence Developer at Epic in Madison, Wisconsin.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:32:34
David Roe (roed) was a Mathcamp student in '99-'02 and has been staff almost every year since. This summer, he'll be the Mathcamp Academic Coordinator, in charge of putting together the course catalog (of about 150 classes and 30 projects) and overseeing the academic side of the program. Outside of camp, he went to MIT for undergrad, and then Harvard for grad school, where he got a Ph.D. in math. He's now a Postdoc at the University of Pittsburgh.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:32:45
And I'm Laura Zehender; I was Mathcamp student in '07-'09, and currently work at AoPS in San Diego.
LauraZed 2016-03-15 19:32:52
I'll turn the room over to Marisa now!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:32:56
Hi, everybody, and welcome to the annual Mathcamp Q&A! A big thanks to @LauraZed, @rrusczyk, and the AoPS team for hosting us.
bigmath 2016-03-15 19:33:09
hello
Davidr 2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi
Mmslittle 2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi
Mmslittle 2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi
raxu 2016-03-15 19:33:09
Hi Marisa!!
mathcrazymj 2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi!
jf57 2016-03-15 19:33:15
Hello Jalex!
Longhair343 2016-03-15 19:33:15
Hi Alex,
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:33:18
So: David, Jalex, Yulia and I are here to talk about Mathcamp 2016, both the program and the application process. (You’ve got a captive audience with some admissions officers, so now’s your chance to ask your burning questions about applying to camp.)
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:33:26
First, I’ll say in a few short sentences what Mathcamp is. Then we’ll spend about 30 minutes discussing the program, and 30 minutes discussing the application process, and then we’ll wrap up around 9pm ET.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:33:37
So, Mathcamp: it’s a 5-week residential math summer program. This year, it runs Sunday, July 3 through Sunday, August 7th, and it takes place at Colby College in Maine.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:33:49
Really really frequently asked questions, to get them out of the way:
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:33:50
Who: We have 120 students per year, from all over the world. It’s 65-75 new campers and 45-55 returning alumni per year. It’s about 1/3 girls, 2/3 boys.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:34:03
What kind of math? All kinds. Our course catalog has about 150 classes per summer, and you have complete freedom to design your own curriculum.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:34:14
What else happens? There are a zillion (approximately) activities happening during the evenings and on weekends, and you choose how to spend your time.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:34:26
How: Admission is competitive. (We expect to admit around 15% of students who apply this year.) The central components are the Qualifying Quiz (http://mathcamp.org/quiz/) and a personal essay (http://mathcamp.org/essay/).
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:34:35
When: Today is the early admission deadline (if you want an early decision), and the regular deadline to apply is April 15th.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:34:46
Scholarships: Yes! We have them. We offer tons of need-based financial aid, and about 20% of our students received full scholarships last year. Every student (US, Canadian, & International; new and returning) is eligible for financial aid.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:34:59
Okay, I think it's time for me to stop talking: we want to get to as many of your questions as possible We'd like to meet *you* along with your question, so here’s a suggested format:
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:35:06
Name / Age / State-or-Country: Question
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:35:10
e.g.
Julian / 14 / MA: What is the official mascot of Mathcamp?
or
Debbie / Parent / England: What are the cooking facilities like?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:35:19
(But that format is not mandatory - in keeping with the spirit of Mathcamp, just about everything is optional, and we’ll address you any way you like.)
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:35:36
Okay, ready? Let’s spend about 7:45 - 8:15 on questions about the program itself: mathematical and residential life at Mathcamp; the people; the campus; the "during" and "after" of Mathcamp. (And then we’ll switch over to discussing the "before": the application process and financial aid.)
SS00090 2016-03-15 19:36:00
The website says that ages 13-18, are there no Middle Schoolers?
girlysponge9 2016-03-15 19:36:00
Is this a day camp or a night camp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:36:13
It's residential - so, both!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:36:20
There are students from grades 7 - 12.
vatatmaja 2016-03-15 19:37:28
Do you learn competition oriented math, or just higher level math?
jf57 2016-03-15 19:37:47
Jaden / 15 / Ontario: Do a lot of the alumni of this program end up going to top schools like MIT or Caltech?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:37:47
We teach both problem-solving and research-focused math, but problem solving is a pretty small part of what happens at Mathcamp. Most classes are more like college and graduate courses.
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:37:57
@jf57: We have alumni at various universities, including MIT and Caltech.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:38:32
Some students go on to tech schools (like those), but also to lots of other styles of school: private research, big state schools, small liberal arts schools.
roed 2016-03-15 19:38:47
@vatatmaja, there is some competition oriented math (both courses and problem solving activities), but that's not the main focus of the courses. Most courses are not focused on competitions.
raxu 2016-03-15 19:38:55
We do have the team problem solving session though
roed 2016-03-15 19:39:17
And math relays every Saturday.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:39:34
[Group note: I'm seeing a lot of questions about the application process in the queue -- I'm going to hold all of those until the second half, just FYI.]
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 19:39:37
Jessica / 15 / AZ: Is there any sort of limitations on number of classes you can select? And how are the classes assigned? Are there limits on numbers of students per course?
vatatmaja 2016-03-15 19:39:38
Is there a way to get the course catalog?
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:39:41
@ jyanyp15: You get to take at most four classes per day, and you get to choose which classes to go to. You have an Academic advisor that you meet with every week to help you make sure you're accomplishing your mathematical goals.
roed 2016-03-15 19:40:49
@vatatmaja, you can see previous years academics at http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/ (etc)
watermellon44 2016-03-15 19:41:22
what kinda activeties
jf57 2016-03-15 19:42:07
Are there research opportunities at Mathcamp?
roed 2016-03-15 19:42:09
@watermellon44, Board games, white-water rafting, puzzle hunts, trips to national parks (this summer we'll go to Acadia), berry picking, etc.
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:42:09
@ jf57: Mathcamp mentors are active mathematicians, and sometimes projects at camp have focused on real research questions. Most students won't engage in research during their time at camp, though.
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 19:42:17
Erica / 13 / Florida: Will there be classes for subjects that use math, like computer science?
Mmslittle 2016-03-15 19:42:18
Is there any homework
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:42:19
We do teach computer science classes! (Mostly theoretical computer science, although sometimes crash courses in programming.) Visiting speakers often give guest lectures about connections between math and related fields (CS, Physics, Computational Cognitive Science - you name it).
roed 2016-03-15 19:42:57
@Mmslitte, many classes will have homework, but not all. It's not graded, and generally is more fun than what you might get at school.
mingxu 2016-03-15 19:43:24
Stephen / 12 / TX: Are there any other locations for MathCamp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:43:26
Only one per year.
Longhair343 2016-03-15 19:44:09
Kaydence / 19 / NJ: Will there be a lot of Moore Method classes? Abel's Theorem was so fun last year!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:44:10
We do often teach classes in interactive formats, like Moore Method. We're definitely planning some for this year!
haloyo 2016-03-15 19:44:11
Albert / 15 / Canada: Do we get some down time to do other activities during the day? i.e sports
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:44:13
@haloyo: There are not classes ever scheduled after dinner, and most campers use the time after dinner to do things like sports and board games. You're also free to not go to every class period of the day and spend your time on other things.
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 19:45:30
What's the difference between first and second year at camp?
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:45:31
@ jyanp15: First year and second year campers have all of the same opportunities and expectations at camp. There are so many opportunities that one year is not enough to try them all!
BobCat128 2016-03-15 19:45:33
13/VA: is there a recommended or enforced curfew?
roed 2016-03-15 19:46:22
@BobCat128, you have to sign in each night by 10pm and stay in the dorm area after that; lounges close at midnight but we don't force people to sleep (though we encourage you to get sleep so you can be awake in class!)
jf57 2016-03-15 19:46:52
Is the style of this camp similar to other camps such as HCSSiM?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:46:54
Mathcamp is similar to Hampshire in flavor, but scaled up a bit (more students, broader curriculum). I think if you ask alumni who've been to both programs, they'll say the programs feel different in culture. On the other hand, both programs appeal to really mathy students - like those at AoPS!
yayups 2016-03-15 19:47:45
what is Moore Method?
moonpelt101 2016-03-15 19:48:20
Do the youngest and oldest students take the same classes? Is there any separation by age within the camp?
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:48:21
@moonpelt101: We don't separate campers by age; all campers have the same opportunities as all of the other campers. We often see the youngest and oldest campers in the same classes, though older campers tend toward classes that have more prerequisites
roed 2016-03-15 19:48:45
Moore Method is a style of class where students are given a list of definitions, propositions, theorems, etc. They work on them for homework, then present in class and critique each others' proofs. It's in contrast to a lecture.
Guest_314159 2016-03-15 19:49:04
Is there a correlation between and attendance to MathCamp and admission to top colleges?
Guest_314159 2016-03-15 19:49:04
I know college shouldn't be a big motivation behind summer camps, but would you say that mathcamp is viewed favorably by the top colleges?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:49:07
The correlation is: the kinds of smart, creative, independent students who go to summer math programs (like ours, but others, too!) are similarly the kinds of smart, creative, independent students who often head to top colleges. But the students were already on that trajectory, so people don't come to MC in order to get into college.
VivekA 2016-03-15 19:49:17
12/CA How many classes are there per day?
roed 2016-03-15 19:49:52
@VivekA, there are four class periods per day with four choices in each period. Then there's a colloquium and a period for you to work on math with teachers available to help
Meimeijy 2016-03-15 19:50:27
What time do you have to wake up?
liopoil 2016-03-15 19:50:38
Julian / 17 / MI: Do people sometimes spend more time on projects than classes? Can you choose what balance to have between those liberally? I know some people don't do projects at all.
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:50:41
@lipoll: You get to choose how to spend your time; if you find a really engaging project, then you can spend most of your mathematical energy on it if you like. If not, then classes usually give out lots of recommended homework that you can work on.
chelopiano 2016-03-15 19:50:57
Diego/12/El Salvador: At what time do you have dinner, lunch etc.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:51:00
It's typically: breakfast 7-9, lunch 11:30 - 1:30, dinner 5 - 6:30. There's no mandatory wake-up time, but if you want breakfast, you have to get up by 8:50am.
roed 2016-03-15 19:51:02
@Meimeily, the first period usually starts at 9 or so. But I'm trying to get it to start later. I've never been a morning person.
Meloby 2016-03-15 19:52:28
What type of classes will be held?
Math1331Math 2016-03-15 19:52:28
What is a colloquium?
kungfugirl 2016-03-15 19:52:28
13/KY This is the first time I've heard of this, so I'm a bit new . . . how do you register and/or apply and what is covered in the camp? Is there a link I could find basic info?
roed 2016-03-15 19:53:08
@Math1331Math, a colloquium is a presentation aimed at everyone (ie it doesn't conflict with other classes). We have about one per day, and often have visitors give them.
chelopiano 2016-03-15 19:53:25
Do you have to be 13? is 12 okay?
chelopiano 2016-03-15 19:53:25
What is the required age?
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:53:29
@ chelopiano: Historically, we've never made any exceptions to our age policy.
jf57 2016-03-15 19:53:30
Are there TAs available along with professors?
roed 2016-03-15 19:54:29
@jf57, the courses are taught by a mix of graduate students and professors. We don't have TAs, since the classes are small enough for you to have access to the teachers.
AlanDu 2016-03-15 19:54:40
What will the academic advisors be like? Are they young adults or are they older, and how many advisors will there be?
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 19:54:58
Is there a way to choose between single dorms or those with more people?
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:55:01
@Sciencewhiz: Most campers live in doubles. We give singles to campers who have particular needs or strong preferences for them.
roed 2016-03-15 19:55:13
Academic advisors are drawn from the teaching staff. They're a mix of graduate students (mostly 22-28 or so) and faculty (older).
lemonmath 2016-03-15 19:55:30
Mansi/15/Canada: What kind of environment is it?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:55:32
That's a tough question, but let me try. It's a very creative, energetic environment. At any given time: someone's working on their problem set; someone's playing frisbee, someone's playing a board game, someone's making up a new game about velociraptor mini-golf, someone's curled up in the library with a book; someone's at choir rehearsal, someone's at a salsa dancing lesson; someone's baking bread; someone's on the phone with their parents, someone's writing a computer program; someone's working on a research project; someone's gone out for pizza with friends. Your task, at Mathcamp, is to do what makes you excited, and you'll find other people who share your passions.
bp1818 2016-03-15 19:55:40
Brett/15/NY Is there a required dress code?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:55:44
No! It's very casual.
Gallium 2016-03-15 19:55:49
how do cabins and that kind of thing work?
roed 2016-03-15 19:56:15
It's held on a college campus, and we stay in the dorms. Most students will have doubles, as Jalex notes.
jf57 2016-03-15 19:56:21
Do alumni usually stay in contact with each other?
EsJay991 2016-03-15 19:56:30
16/NB: How long is each class?
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:56:35
@EsJay991: Most classes run one hour a day for one week. Some will run for just one or two days. A few classes each summer run for multiple weeks, and a few classes run multiple hours a day for one week.
roed 2016-03-15 19:57:05
@jf57, I find the alum community to be one of the most amazing features of mathcamp. I'm 31 now, and I met many of my closest friends at mathcamp. People definitely stay in touch.
gxah 2016-03-15 19:57:14
how are roommates assigned?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 19:57:16
We match up roommates by age, messiness level, and how they plan to spend their evenings (studying, hanging out with friends, sleeping), what time they get up (that's a new constraint this year!). We also try to honor roommate requests, if both people request to share a room.
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 19:57:49
When does the class catalog get posted?
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:57:51
@Sciencewhiz: On the first day of camp, we publish a tentative list of the classes that will run over the summer. At the end of each week, we publish detailed descriptions of the classes running the next week.
ilikepie2003 2016-03-15 19:58:24
ooh! what are math relays?
roed 2016-03-15 19:59:42
@ilikepie2003, math relays are a team problem solving competition we hold Saturday afternoon (mathcamp classes are Tuesday-Saturday). They're low-key, and fairly fast paced. You only have two questions at a time, and we often have variants (like relays in the pool).
epiclucario 2016-03-15 19:59:44
14/SD: Would I have to know certain material (precalc/calc, etc.) in order to be able to take any classes at Mathcamp? I only have knowledge up to Algebra II.
khanh93 2016-03-15 19:59:46
@epiclucario: If you know enough math to do well on the Qualifying Quiz, then you'll be able to take level-appropriate classes at camp.
Math1331Math 2016-03-15 20:00:05
What competitions do MathCamp help most in?
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 20:00:12
So is there some sort of survey that you send out after you have chosen who is accepted to the camp?
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 20:00:12
Do we have access to the kitchens? I love to cook and it would be nice to be able to bake something.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:00:37
Re kitchens: Yes!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:00:56
Re survey: Yes, during the registration process, we collect lots of data about our students.
roed 2016-03-15 20:01:09
@Math1331Math, I would say that mathcamp will teach you a lot of math, but isn't really aimed at any math competitions in particular.
liopoil 2016-03-15 20:02:10
Julian / 17/ MI: lounges close at midnight, but when do people actually go to sleep?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:02:13
It varies a lot. I'd say between 10 and 12:30 is typical.
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:02:36
Are personal devices allowed?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:02:37
Like computers and cell phones? Yes.
BobCat128 2016-03-15 20:02:46
is there an orientation at the beginning of camp, or any other necessary events for that matter?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:02:48
@BobCat128: On the first day of camp, we tell you everything we think you need to know in order to thrive over the summer. Afterward, we have one mandatory morning assembly per week so that we can distribute critical information.
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 20:02:49
Are we allowed to cook food on campus?
roed 2016-03-15 20:02:52
We generally eat in the cafeteria. There are some kitchens, but not enough to cook most meals (and you can't use them on your own). Staff sometimes run baking activities though.
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 20:03:18
Wait, there are salsa dancing lessons?
WL0410 2016-03-15 20:03:19
Relays in the pool? Like a swimming pool?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:03:21
Yes!
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:03:22
@WL0410: Yep! This usually happens once near the end of camp.
bearytasty 2016-03-15 20:03:30
is it ok to practice violin at camp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:03:31
Yes!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:03:41
And there are practice rooms for serious musicians.
moowoof 2016-03-15 20:05:09
Does a student get to know what course(s) s/he will be taking before s/he goes to the camp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:05:11
You'll get a chance to look at the course catalog in June, before camp starts, but you'll really make those decisions once you get to camp. The first step is to choose an academic advisor, and then you'll have a one-on-one meeting with your advisor to talk about your plans for the summer - what you're interested in studying, and what MC classes will be the best fit.
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 20:05:20
Do the practice rooms include pianos?
moowoof 2016-03-15 20:05:20
Is there a piano in the practice room?
yayups 2016-03-15 20:05:22
13/OR do you have to choose classes or can you just show up to any class any day?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:05:22
Yes!
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:05:26
@yayups: You have the freedom to show up to different classes on different days, though it's generally best to stay with a week-long class for a whole week, since different days of the same class build on each other.
watermellon44 2016-03-15 20:05:34
is there unlimited food?
roed 2016-03-15 20:05:36
Yeah, food is generally unlimited.
bearytasty 2016-03-15 20:06:23
yay practice rooms
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:06:27
How large is the campus?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:06:29
714 acres.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:06:44
(To be exact.) But our dorm, dining hall, and classrooms are all near one another.
BobCat128 2016-03-15 20:06:54
which university is Camp at this year?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:07:02
Colby College in Waterville, ME (www.colby.edu)
bp1818 2016-03-15 20:07:09
What are weekends usually like?
roed 2016-03-15 20:07:11
Some people relax on the weekends, sleep in, play board games, etc. There are also lots of field trips (white-water rafting, puzzle hunt, Acadia National Park, berry-picking, contra dancing...)
AlanDu 2016-03-15 20:08:14
Is it easy to make friends at Mathcamp?
roed 2016-03-15 20:08:16
When I was a camper, I found making friends at mathcamp to be very easy. You will likely have a lot in common with other campers, and when you're around each other a lot, making friends is much easier.
AstroCarp 2016-03-15 20:08:20
What are the rules about leaving campus?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:08:22
@AstroCarp: Campers can check out to leave campus in groups of at least three. They have to tell a staff member where they're going and when they'll be back, so that we know to check up on you if you're late.
Gallium 2016-03-15 20:08:54
Will we be able to access all of campus?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:08:57
Yes!
AllenWang314 2016-03-15 20:09:05
At 6:30 there are "evening activities" can I go back to the dorm and do other stuff like aops classes?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:09:07
Yes!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:09:12
That's an evening activity (for you).
BobCat128 2016-03-15 20:09:16
Are we sharing the campus with other camps?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:10:13
@ BobCat128: Yes
roed 2016-03-15 20:10:35
yes
roed 2016-03-15 20:10:42
We are sharing campus with other groups
AlanDu 2016-03-15 20:11:22
What will the visiting speakers be talking about?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:11:24
@AlanDu: Visiting speakers talk about lots of things! Usually their talks are focused in their area of research.
8_8 2016-03-15 20:11:45
Could you list some of the most popular courses people take?
roed 2016-03-15 20:11:54
Check out http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/4WeekSchedule.pdf for last year's schedule.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:12:13
I think Combinatorial Game Theory might be the historically most popular class
roed 2016-03-15 20:12:23
You can find descriptions at http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/
AstroCarp 2016-03-15 20:12:25
Do we get t-shirts / apparel?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:12:27
@AstroCarp: We give out Mathcamp T-shirts at the end of camp. Sometimes we run tie-dye as a camp activity, for a different kind of camp apparel.
addisonzxy 2016-03-15 20:12:44
15/CA Are there specific things that we need to bring to the camp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:12:51
There's a suggested packing list: http://www.mathcamp.org/currentstudents/precamp/whattobring.php
epiclucario 2016-03-15 20:13:15
(not trying to offend anyone) What is the general demographic of Mathcampers? Are there minorities (by gender, race, age, etc.) among the campers or is it more "balanced"?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:13:18
It's a big mix. Usually, about 1/3 girls, 2/3 boys; about 75% US, 10-15% Canadian, and 10-15% from other countries.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:13:24
The mean, median, and mode of the age distrituion are almost always 16. On the first day of Mathcamp 2015:
4 campers age 13
8 campers age 14
23 campers age 15
35 campers age 16
33 campers age 17
17 campers age 18
0 campers age 19
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:13:39
(That was slightly more young students than we usually see, and we do once in a while have 19-year-olds.)
Math1331Math 2016-03-15 20:13:44
How are the classes run? Are they more proof-oriented or problem solving based?
roed 2016-03-15 20:13:46
Classes vary based on the instructor, but more of them are about cool topics that you wouldn't normally see in high school than about problem solving. We usually have 1 or 2 problem solving classes each week.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:14:07
(One or two per day, that is, that continue throughout the week.)
AllenWang314 2016-03-15 20:14:25
Are the courses aimed toward college or usamo/imo training?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:14:30
More towards college, but it's a mix.
himaximushi 2016-03-15 20:14:41
What are the pepper things in this link? http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/4WeekSchedule.pdf
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:14:49
@himaximushi: Chili peppers! Some classes are "spicier" than others, which means they move at a faster pace and introduce higher-level ideas.
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:15:23
Does the homework have to be printed or hand-written? Or does it vary from class to class?
girlysponge9 2016-03-15 20:15:23
Do we have homework and if we do, is it mandatory that we do it?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:15:25
Homework is optional, but most people opt in. You mostly handwrite, but there's a computer lab in case you wanted to TeX something up.
BobCat128 2016-03-15 20:15:52
Can classes be "full" if they're too popular?
roed 2016-03-15 20:15:58
No, we'll just move them to a bigger room.
AllenWang314 2016-03-15 20:16:07
Is there a lights out time?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:16:08
(And add a TA if need be.)
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:16:09
@AllenWang134: On weeknights, we ask campers to be in their rooms and not make loud noise after midnight, but we don't force them to be silent or turn their lights out.
ishankhare 2016-03-15 20:16:10
Where is MathCamp 2016?
roed 2016-03-15 20:16:19
Colby College, in Maine.
Superfan123 2016-03-15 20:16:26
is it a boarding camp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:16:27
Yes!
AllenWang314 2016-03-15 20:16:38
Sign in lasts two hours, what exactly happens? can it be shortened? Why does it take so long?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:16:39
@AllenWang134: Students only have to spend a few minutes signing in, but they have a two-hour window to do it in.
Tega 2016-03-15 20:17:04
Is the homework proof based or more computational?
chezbgone2 2016-03-15 20:17:19
Are we allowed to switch classes half-way into the week?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:17:21
@chezbgone2: Yes! It's a good idea to talk to the instructor before doing so, so that they can tell you about what's been covered so far
roed 2016-03-15 20:17:33
@Tega, It's a mix, but it generally doesn't have the feeling of "practice this a bunch in order to get better at it"
AllenWang314 2016-03-15 20:18:20
During some of the blocks for classes ex: 10:10-11:00 bloack, are we allowed to take no classes?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:18:22
@AllenWang314: Yes! In fact, we usually encourage students *not* to take 4 classes at once, because that's just too much math for lots of people.
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 20:18:54
What is sign in?
Superfan123 2016-03-15 20:18:54
Then what do you do in the time when everyone else is signing in?
roed 2016-03-15 20:18:57
There's a staff member sitting in the lounge between 8 and 10 each night. You have to come visit them at some point, and then stay in the dorms afterward. It only takes a minute, and you can do other stuff during that period.
MathStudent2002 2016-03-15 20:19:07
is the food good
jf57 2016-03-15 20:19:14
Will there be any courses on programming in LaTeX this year?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:19:16
@jf57: We usually have an informal workshop at some point during camp, but usually not a full class
roed 2016-03-15 20:19:44
MathStudent2002, It's one of the things we select campuses based on. It's good, though cafeteria food can get tiring after a while.
Wiggle Wam 2016-03-15 20:20:02
You can always spot a sign-in staff member as they'll be wearing an absurd hat.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:20:11
Okay! Those were great questions about the program.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:20:16
Let’s spend about 8:15 - 8:45 on questions about applications and financial aid: eligibility, the application process, scholarships. (And then we’ll open up to any kinds of questions before we wrap up.)
Tryharder 2016-03-15 20:20:23
do they have food that copperates with allergies
MSTang 2016-03-15 20:20:47
Do you have any ideas what Moore-Method classes will be held?
roed 2016-03-15 20:20:57
Not yet. Still working on the schedule for this summer.
himaximushi 2016-03-15 20:21:27
Can you tell us the cost?
chelopiano 2016-03-15 20:21:27
how much does the camp cost?
SS00090 2016-03-15 20:21:27
Does it cost money?
ak1234 2016-03-15 20:21:27
Is Mathcamp free for aops students?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:21:30
The full cost of the program is $4,000, which includes tuition, room & board, local transportation (to and from the airport, e.g.), field trips, your camp t-shirt - the whole program. The only thing not included is your flights to and from camp.
roed 2016-03-15 20:21:34
@Tryharder, yes we have food for people with allergies.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:21:42
We offer LOTS of need-based financial aid, including full scholarships and travel subsidies (i.e. plane tickets to camp).
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:21:47
In fact: Mathcamp is totally free for families in the US and Canada with household income under $60,000. We also give lots of partial and full scholarships to middle-income families.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:21:52
International students are eligible for financial aid, too.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:22:01
(Including full scholarships and plane tickets!)
beanielove2 2016-03-15 20:22:23
Question: When you say that the top scorers on USAMTS get scholarships into the camp, do you mean students who get like 70 and above or just like the top 30 students? In other words, what's the floor for "top scorers?"
SS00090 2016-03-15 20:22:34
How hard is it to get in? Do you ask AMC, AIME, etc. scores?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:22:34
We do give small merit awards to the top 30 girls and top 30 boys on the USAMTS competition. We also give small merit awards to top scorers on the Math Prize for Girls competition. (It's how we sponsor each program.)
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:22:37
@SS00090: If you self-report your competition scores, we'll take them into account. If you haven't taken any contests, that's okay! The only proof you need to give us that you're strong enough for camp is your Qualifying Quiz
chessinfinity1011 2016-03-15 20:23:28
Is there any differences between early and regular application, for example is there a quota for each or how does admission based on submission work?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:23:31
Nope, the process and the rate of admission are the same. The only difference is the date of the deadlines.
moonpelt101 2016-03-15 20:24:21
So there's no advantage for applying early besides knowing results earlier?
ygorlina 2016-03-15 20:24:24
Correct
PixelPlex 2016-03-15 20:24:34
How many questions should I answer on the quizzes?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:24:35
@PixelPlex: You should answer as many as you can figure out! Solving more questions can only help your application.
eveningstarandlion 2016-03-15 20:24:39
To make the camp, I'm assuming there is a type of examination or quiz?
roed 2016-03-15 20:24:44
Yep! See http://www.mathcamp.org/prospectiveapplicants/
SS00090 2016-03-15 20:25:08
Does it cost to apply?
roed 2016-03-15 20:25:14
No, it's free to apply.
chessinfinity1011 2016-03-15 20:25:34
Is there any difference in early and regular admission, for example will spaces fill up faster for early admission due to a quota?
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 20:25:34
Does the personal essay count towards getting into camp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:25:54
Yep, we use your whole application - Quiz, essay, recommendation letters, and math background - to get a picture of you as a student and as a person we might get to spend the summer with. Everything counts!
jf57 2016-03-15 20:26:59
If I finish my application by the early decision deadline, but one of my recommendation letters do not come in by the 17th, will i be put in the regular action pool?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:27:00
You should encourage your recommendation letter-writers to get their letters in on time, but we're not robots - talk to us if there's a special case.
chessinfinity1011 2016-03-15 20:27:15
should the qualifying quiz be in latex or is handwritten ok?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:27:17
Handwritten is okay! Just scan it and send us a PDF.
moonpelt101 2016-03-15 20:27:30
Do more people apply early or regular?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:27:33
We offer an early deadline in case people want an early decision: e.g. because they are applying to other programs that have similar deadlines, or need to get started on a visa / plane ticket as an international student. Most students take the extra month to work on the Quiz.
chessinfinity1011 2016-03-15 20:27:56
but if people are admitted earlier, then won't their be less space for people in the regular date
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:27:58
We try to keep the admissions rate consistent across the season.
pierre11134 2016-03-15 20:28:22
Can answer half of a question and put it on my solutions? ie. do part a but not b
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:28:24
@pierre11134: Yes! We'll award partial credit for any ideas that go toward solving the problem.
yayups 2016-03-15 20:28:52
Is it fine if my essay is a bit large (i.e. 1000+ words)
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:28:54
Sure. Most applicants will keep it to a page, but feel free to express your ideas at their natural length.
jf57 2016-03-15 20:29:39
is the early deadline at 11:59 pacific or eastern time?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:29:41
Central time, actually.
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:29:49
Who grades the application?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:29:51
@hliu70: The applications are graded by current and former Mathcamp staff, precisely the people who know what makes a student qualified for Mathcamp!
Eulersbestfriend271 2016-03-15 20:30:14
So since I qualified via USAMTS, do I still need to write an essay and get recommendation letters?
BobCat128 2016-03-15 20:30:14
Re-addmission is guaranteed, right?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:30:21
@E: Yes! The only way to qualify is to apply. (Even if you're a top scorer on a competition.)
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:31:23
how is the Quiz scored? like on what scale?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:31:25
We don't release quiz scores; the only feedback you'll get is whether or not we accept you. We typically release solutions, so you can check afterward which parts you got and which parts you didn't.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:31:50
We sometimes run Math Jams here to discuss the Quiz solutions (past examples: http://www.mathcamp.org/prospectiveapplicants/quiz/solutions.php).
Eulersbestfriend271 2016-03-15 20:32:26
So I need to write an essay and get recommendations?
roed 2016-03-15 20:32:28
Yes
jf57 2016-03-15 20:33:06
If I get deferred to regular action, would I be able to submit another solution or two for the qualifying quiz if I solve them?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:33:08
In fact, yes. So, for context: During early admissions, we make decisions of “admitted” and “not admitted” for almost all the applicants, but we do hold onto some candidates (“defer”) whose applications we'd like to see in a broader context, and defer them to regular admissions and give a decision when we see the whole pool.
If we ask you to wait until the Regular Action season for a decision, then we will offer the option of reopening your application so that you can edit it (e.g. to update your Quiz), since you are now essentially applying at the same time as the Regular Action candidates. Since students usually apply early for a good reason (that is, they need to hear back from us sooner rather than later), we use this option sparingly.
haloyo 2016-03-15 20:33:18
Can my personal recommendation letter be written by a teacher who monitors a club that I lead?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:33:21
Yes!
awesomeclaw 2016-03-15 20:33:47
is it suggested to bring a computer?
chezbgone2 2016-03-15 20:33:48
what is the acceptance rate of the camp?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:33:51
I expect it will be about 15% this year.
AMN300 2016-03-15 20:34:22
do you grade relatively harshly for nontrivial progress for the quiz (like with Olympiads) or more like the usamts
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:34:24
@AMN300: We give credit for partial solutions; I'd like to say that we're more generous than typical Olympiad scoring. If you have some ideas but not a full solution for a problem, tell us about it!
roed 2016-03-15 20:34:33
@a, it will be useful, but a lot of camp actually happens offline.
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:34:51
Is that 15% rate included alumni?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:35:06
Alumni are (mostly) guaranteed readmission, so that's just for new students.
chessinfinity1011 2016-03-15 20:35:21
if our proof is not rigorous but more qualitative, for example we find a pattern, are we allowed to use the patterns we find
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 20:35:21
Do you have to be a top scorer in a competition to attend? i.e. Does a bad competition score detract from the application?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:35:23
Not at all! Many of our students have never done a competition before.
roed 2016-03-15 20:35:51
@chessinfinity, you should certainly include patterns you observe, though to get full credit you will usually need to prove that your patterns are correct.
lemonmath 2016-03-15 20:36:56
What's the quiz website again?
liopoil 2016-03-15 20:37:48
Is it encouraged to look up ideas for solving homework problems or encouraged to come up with the inspiration independently by struggling through it with peers?
roed 2016-03-15 20:37:50
At camp, working together on homework is very much encouraged. On the qualifying quiz, we expect your solutions to be your own.
SS00090 2016-03-15 20:38:49
are there quizzes at the camp? or is it just lessons?
roed 2016-03-15 20:38:51
We don't have grades or exams at camp, though there is a weekly team problem solving competition.
moowoof 2016-03-15 20:39:22
What documentations do you need for financial aid application?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:39:25
At the time of registration, we ask for your family's most recent tax return (or equivalent).
math1012 2016-03-15 20:39:29
do you get to select your own teams?
roed 2016-03-15 20:39:39
No, though you can for relays.
Wiggle Wam 2016-03-15 20:39:43
Is there a minimum income necessary for financial aid eligibility? How much are your family's circumstances taken into account?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:39:46
There's no explicit minimum. We work with each family of an admitted student who requests aid to make sure that every qualified student can come to camp. We definitely take special cirucmstances into account.
awesomeclaw 2016-03-15 20:39:52
how many questions do we usually have to get to get in?
jf57 2016-03-15 20:39:52
will answering only 4 out of the 6 questions negatively effect my chances of gaining acceptance?
math1012 2016-03-15 20:39:52
how many admission quiz questions do applicants who get in normally do?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:39:54
There isn't a good answer to this. The bar for admission changes from year to year, different parts of different questions have different weights, and we give partial credit for answers that make progress but aren't correct.
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:40:26
The best strategy for the Quiz is to write solutions for all the problems you solved and show us your progress for all the problems that you tried
pkd 2016-03-15 20:40:51
in the qualifying quiz, if i have already completely solved a problem, then is it ok to show some additional thoughts (that helped me to lead to the solution, or some more detail that was skipped in my formal solution) after the formal solution is shown? The reason i ask is because i dont want to diminish the elegance of my solution by adding too much detail and background thoughts, yet on the other hand its a dilemma to not put in enough detail for fear of making the solution too brief so that
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:40:58
There is nothing wrong with a bare-bones solution if it's 100% rigorous and correct. However, in our experience, many students are not very good at judging their own solutions: we often get applicants who think they've solved a problem completely, when in fact they have barely scratched the surface. For this reason, it may be in your interest to provide us with some of the background to your "bare-bones" solution: this background might show us that you had some good insights, maybe even pointing in the right direction, while the final solution will only tell us that you didn't get there.
pierre11134 2016-03-15 20:41:20
how do you have space for new comers if people who have gone before are getting in no matter what and the other people leaving are 12th graders
roed 2016-03-15 20:41:45
@pierre, not everyone is able to come back. We have a cap on the number of alums that can return, but we've never reached it.
awesomeclaw 2016-03-15 20:42:09
how many people go in total?
roed 2016-03-15 20:42:24
Camp is usually between 110 and 120 students.
epiclucario 2016-03-15 20:42:31
Can you go more in-depth into financial aid? About how much (on average) does a Mathcamper from a medium-income household pay to go?
T314159 2016-03-15 20:42:31
About what income level tends to get significant financial aid?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:42:33
There's a chart for estimation here: http://www.mathcamp.org/prospectiveapplicants/scholarships.php
awesomeclaw 2016-03-15 20:42:49
do you "grade" our solutions, like give points out of 7 or something and use that?
roed 2016-03-15 20:43:03
Yep, solutions are graded, though different problems are worth different numbers of points sometimes.
Lord.of.AMC 2016-03-15 20:43:24
what are the chances of getting in if we make progress on all the problems?
awesomeclaw 2016-03-15 20:43:24
how many questions do we have to solve in order to get in (on average)
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:43:33
Hard to say, for both. But remember that the Qualifying Quiz is not a math contest: your ultimate goal is not to maximize your score but to show us, through your solutions, how you think about math.
EsJay991 2016-03-15 20:44:31
16/NB: I received reference letter from teacher. Is it possible to upload the scanned pdf of the reference letter?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:44:32
You can have your teacher transmit the recommendation through our online system (recommended), or they can send it to us directly. Applicants can't sumbit their own recommendation letters, though.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:45:07
Okay! Thanks for all the great questions about the application process.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:45:10
The field is open for any questions about Mathcamp, and we’ll wrap up at 9pm ET.
AMN300 2016-03-15 20:45:18
so should we include all insights, motivation, and dead ends on a solution or should we just do a standard Olympiad-style writeup
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:45:20
@AMN300: If you don't have a full solution, showing us insights and motivations will help your score. If you thought of something particularly clever and want to include it, please do!
Royalreter1 2016-03-15 20:45:25
Is there wifi/do we need to bring ethernet cables?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:45:27
Yep, there's wifi.
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:46:18
What percentages would you weigh the Qualifying Quiz, the application, personal statement and recommendations be on the final outcome?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:46:20
That's internal admissions committee politics. Let me just say: every component counts, but the Quiz is the central piece, so that's where we recommend you start.
spmath123 2016-03-15 20:46:24
is this for mosp?
roed 2016-03-15 20:46:55
Nope, it's not aimed at mosp
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:47:14
@epiclucario: Some students have done things like this in the past. We generally encourage students to only push themselves as hard as they want to; you're not doing camp wrong if you decide to drop a class in order to socialize more!
epiclucario 2016-03-15 20:47:20
If one were to do 3 or 4 Mathcamp classes a week, would they still have time for an AoPS class and time to socialize?
eveningstarandlion 2016-03-15 20:48:04
How would you compare this camp to, say, the one in MIT?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:48:08
You mean RSI? Mathcamp is broader in focus. At RSI, you work on a research project. At Mathcamp, you *can* work on a research project, but you can also do lots of other (academic and non-academic) things.
macandcheese 2016-03-15 20:48:09
if you aren't sure whether you can go this year (for reasons outside of our control), could we still apply?
roed 2016-03-15 20:48:14
Yes
pkd 2016-03-15 20:48:18
how many people grade / evaluate each quiz? just one, or more?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:48:20
It's a big committee.
Sciencewhiz 2016-03-15 20:48:48
How many students do you accept
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:48:50
We typically admit about 75 new students per year.
IsabeltheCat 2016-03-15 20:49:18
Freya/15/CA: How is the homework structured? (e.g. PSets, class overleaf document, etc.) Do the classes have exams?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:49:20
@Freya: Most classes will hand out an optional homework set in paper each day in class. After classes end for the day, there's a two hour period called TAU where all of the instructors hold office hours. Lots of students camp out near a few of their teachers and work on the problem sets with other students for most of this time.
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:49:32
There are no exams at Mathcamp
AMN300 2016-03-15 20:50:06
How much higher math (like group theory, lin. alg) would the 'average' mathcamp student know (for taking the courses)?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:50:08
Very few classes, if any, will collect and grade homework assignments
roed 2016-03-15 20:50:08
I would say that most students don't come in knowing group theory or linear algebra, but most alums will have some exposure to them (and some new students as well). There will be classes on both group theory and linear algebra at camp.
pierre11134 2016-03-15 20:50:25
So 15% of new students get in?
Royalreter1 2016-03-15 20:50:25
On the application, it says "(We give returning applicants special consideration.)" Does that mean those that apply one year but get rejected have a better chance the next year?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:50:30
Yes! Applying to Mathcamp takes a lot of time and persistence; applying twice, doubly so. We're always impressed when people apply more than once. People do sometimes get in on their second or third try, and I'm always excited when that happens.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:50:34
@pierre: approximately.
pkd 2016-03-15 20:50:50
how can a committee grade a quiz? do you project the solution on a projector with the committee looking at it together?
epiclucario 2016-03-15 20:51:02
Do Mathcampers ever get homesick over the 5 weeks? That's a long time
ygorlina 2016-03-15 20:51:04
Some people do get homesick. I personally got "campsick" when I got home after my first Mathcamp.
roed 2016-03-15 20:51:05
We grade it individually a number of times, then talk about it afterward.
jf57 2016-03-15 20:51:15
If we get accepted into this camp, by what date would you want confirmation that we can attend (ex. if we applied to both this camp and HCSSiM)
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:51:19
May 20th is the registration deadline (for students admitted during both early and regular seasons).
pkd 2016-03-15 20:51:27
Or is it that one person looks at a particular problem for multiple quiz submissions? something like USAMTS grading?
roed 2016-03-15 20:51:40
Yes, this too. Each person grading will focus on one problem at a time.
nasmith99 2016-03-15 20:51:48
Would you say that Mathcamp is more or less selective than PROMYS?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:51:51
I don't know what PROMYS's admission rate is right now, actually.
hliu70 2016-03-15 20:52:09
If someone doesn't go, do you give admission to the next person in line?
W.Sun 2016-03-15 20:52:11
What level is this math camp? Is it like AIME level, AMC 10 level, USA(J)MO Level, or USAMO level?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:52:11
It's a little more complicated than that - the waitlist isn't ordered. We're looking at the whole composition of the student body when selecting students.
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:52:13
@WSun: There are problem solving classes, which vary in scope, but most of the classes at Mathcamp are focused on theory-building rather than solving contest problems.
Eulersbestfriend271 2016-03-15 20:52:41
So in my application, is there some place where I can say that since I was in the top 30 males in USAMTS, I do not have to work on the "Quiz Solutions" part of my application?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:52:44
No, that's not true: no matter how you did on USAMTS, you have to do the Quiz if you want to come to Mathcamp.
AMN300 2016-03-15 20:52:53
August/16/WA: Can you give us detail about the research project we *could* do at mathcamp?
roed 2016-03-15 20:53:04
See http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/ProjectBlurbs.pdf for the projects that were proposed last year.
addisonzxy 2016-03-15 20:53:29
Are there any math assessments, competitions and contests during the camp besides the Sunday relays?
AWCMABMV1 2016-03-15 20:53:34
i heard that some people who made at least significant progress on all the problems got rejected last year. is this true?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:53:39
Alas, we end up having to turn away lots of great students - there are way more talented applicants than we have spots for!
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:53:49
@addisonxyz: There's also an Olympiad style team contest every wednesday
Longhair343 2016-03-15 20:54:13
@addisonzxy Also, there's puzzle hunt
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:54:16
True!
alchemis80 2016-03-15 20:54:25
What speed is the math in Mathcamp done at?(e.g. fast-paced, slow-paced)
stitch_lover 2016-03-15 20:54:46
is admission need blind?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:54:47
For domestic applicants, yes.
roed 2016-03-15 20:54:49
Classes have chili ratings, which are based on a mix of pace and level of mathematical experience we expect.
chelopiano 2016-03-15 20:55:20
When does the camp start?
roed 2016-03-15 20:55:24
July 3
ilikepie2003 2016-03-15 20:55:42
does the food contain chili?
roed 2016-03-15 20:55:46
Some.
chelopiano 2016-03-15 20:55:48
Can you order pizza?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:55:52
Yes.
ilikepie2003 2016-03-15 20:56:03
is there an ice rink for skaters to practice on?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:56:05
Maybe as a field trip!
roed 2016-03-15 20:56:08
But chili ratings are just a measure of pace for each class, not based on actual spiciness.
crcrt 2016-03-15 20:56:14
is there ping pong there?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:56:16
Yes.
eveningstarandlion 2016-03-15 20:56:17
Is there any required level of mathematical understanding or do you just have to be within 7th-12th grade?
Anonymous 2016-03-15 20:56:17
do we have to pay for pizza?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:56:19
The only mathematical requirement is to do well on the Qualifying Quiz.
roed 2016-03-15 20:56:33
@Anonymous, yes, unless it's coming back from a hike where we miss dinner.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:56:40
Ah - that, plus Precalculus.
roed 2016-03-15 20:56:45
Oh yeah, we go hiking most weekends.
crcrt 2016-03-15 20:56:55
and chess?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:56:58
Yes!
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 20:57:04
Ahhh contra dancing.... That's an interesting ride.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:57:07
That, too.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:57:15
Here's one for the alums:
bearytasty 2016-03-15 20:57:18
what was ur most memorable event/activity at mathcamp? (just curious )
ygorlina 2016-03-15 20:57:34
whitewater rafting
Niuniu01 2016-03-15 20:57:40
is there an available pool?
roed 2016-03-15 20:57:54
Yes, there's usually a pool available at some hours.
stitch_lover 2016-03-15 20:58:03
question, which airport should we travel there?
moowoof 2016-03-15 20:58:10
Is there a lot mosquito there?
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:58:10
See http://www.mathcamp.org/parents/arrivalsanddepartures.php for travel info.
roed 2016-03-15 20:58:33
@moowoof, there are some, but not as bad as Minnesota or Alaska.
room456 2016-03-15 20:58:37
what is the temperature usually like during the 5 weeks?
math1012 2016-03-15 20:58:39
Thanks for the help!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:58:39
It's very pleasant, actually - usually 70s - 80s during the day, cool at night.
beanielove2 2016-03-15 20:58:50
A serious question here: Is the food specifically marked "gluten-free?" I got nailed last summer at a weekend summer camp because the breakfast sausages had gluten binders in them.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:58:55
YES. We're very careful about this.
AlanDu 2016-03-15 20:59:03
Will there be a store to buy food, drinks, or everyday items?
Wiggle Wam 2016-03-15 20:59:03
Probably when we had to pretend to be cats to get problems.
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:59:06
Yes.
xueenwu 2016-03-15 20:59:37
what if you've attended mathpath
MarisaD 2016-03-15 20:59:39
There are lots of MathPath alums around. You'll see some familiar faces.
sohappy 2016-03-15 20:59:41
What do we do the most there?
alchemis80 2016-03-15 20:59:42
Where is Mathcamp held?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:59:43
@sohappy: The only thing that *everybody* does a lot of at camp is math, but people also do lots of other fun things, like playing sports, board games, going off-campus, etc. You have a lot of personal freedom in deciding how you want to spend your time.
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 20:59:52
Is it possible to become a JC at Mathcamp even if you don't attend as a camper?
khanh93 2016-03-15 20:59:53
No.
roed 2016-03-15 20:59:54
Mathcamp's at Colby College in Maine this summer
MarisaD 2016-03-15 21:00:11
...but if you go to math grad school later, you can become a Mentor!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 21:00:25
Okay, everybody - time to wrap up. Thanks for spending your evening with us! Lots of great questions.
alchemis80 2016-03-15 21:00:28
Okay, thanks!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 21:00:33
If we didn't get to your question, feel free to email admissions16@mathcamp.org and we'll be happy to continue the conversation. (You can also post questions in the Mathcamp forum here on AoPS, at http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/community/c135_mathcamp - the Mathcamp staff will post replies, and you'll get student opinions, too!
jyanyp15 2016-03-15 21:00:42
Thank you!!!
WL0410 2016-03-15 21:00:42
Thanks!
haloyo 2016-03-15 21:00:47
Thank you for the math jam
AMN300 2016-03-15 21:00:48
Thank you very much!
mathmaster2012 2016-03-15 21:00:48
thanks
yayups 2016-03-15 21:01:04
thanks
pkd 2016-03-15 21:01:04
Thank you!
jf57 2016-03-15 21:01:04
Thank you!!!!!!!
roed 2016-03-15 21:01:08
Looking forward to meeting some of you this summer!
ilikepie2003 2016-03-15 21:01:24
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME! I'm sure that you taste better than Smoked Gouda cheese from Costco.
EsJay991 2016-03-15 21:01:30
16/NB: Thank you!
eveningstarandlion 2016-03-15 21:01:39
THank you!
epiclucario 2016-03-15 21:01:39
Hope to see you there! ;)
Meimeijy 2016-03-15 21:01:39
bye!
bearytasty 2016-03-15 21:01:41
THANKS!!!
LauraZed 2016-03-15 21:01:57
Thank you all for joining us, and a big thanks to Marisa, Jalex, Yulia, and David!
MarisaD 2016-03-15 21:01:58
Thanks again, everybody - good night!
ilikepie2003 2016-03-15 21:02:01
uh... do we leave?
happiface 2016-03-15 21:02:03
yay you all should come to mathcamp! i went in 2015 and it was great
pi37 2016-03-15 21:02:06
everyone go to mathcamp!
roed 2016-03-15 21:02:07
Yeah, we're done.
Math_Wiz_3.14 2016-03-15 21:02:16
BYE!
SS00090 2016-03-15 21:02:21
bye
LauraZed 2016-03-15 21:02:26
In case you missed/forgot the link – if you're interested in applying for Mathcamp, you can find the qualifying quiz for Mathcamp at www.mathcamp.org/quiz
LauraZed 2016-03-15 21:02:51
If you have further questions for Mathcamp, you can contact them via the email address above (admissions16@mathcamp.org) or at www.mathcamp.org/contact.php.

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