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<cmath>\log_{2004}(\log_{2003}(\log_{2002}(\log_{2001}{x})))</cmath>
 
<cmath>\log_{2004}(\log_{2003}(\log_{2002}(\log_{2001}{x})))</cmath>
  
is defined is <math>\{x|x > c\}</math>. What is the value of <math>c</math>?
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is defined is <math>\{x\mid x > c\}</math>. What is the value of <math>c</math>?
  
<math>\text {(A) } 0\qquad \text {(B) }2001^{2002} \qquad \text {(C) }2002^{2003} \qquad \text {(D) }2003^{2004} \qquad \text {(E) }2001^{2002^{2003}}</math>
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<math>\textbf {(A) } 0\qquad \textbf {(B) }2001^{2002} \qquad \textbf {(C) }2002^{2003} \qquad \textbf {(D) }2003^{2004} \qquad \textbf {(E) }2001^{2002^{2003}}</math>
  
== Solution ==
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== Solution 1 ==
For all real numbers <math>b</math> such that <math>b>0</math> and <math>b\neq1,</math> note that:
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For all real numbers <math>a,b,</math> and <math>c</math> such that <math>b>1,</math> note that:
 
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   <li><math>\log_b a</math> is defined if and only if <math>a>0.</math></li><p>
 
   <li><math>\log_b a</math> is defined if and only if <math>a>0.</math></li><p>
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&\implies x>2001^{2002},
 
&\implies x>2001^{2002},
 
\end{align*}</cmath>
 
\end{align*}</cmath>
from which <math>c=\boxed{\text {(B) }2001^{2002}}.</math>
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from which <math>c=\boxed{\textbf {(B) }2001^{2002}}.</math>
  
~Azjps (Fundamental Logic)
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~Azjps ~MRENTHUSIASM
  
~MRENTHUSIASM (Reconstruction)
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== Solution 2 ==
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Let
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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x &= 2001^a, \\
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a &= 2002^b, \\
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b &= 2003^c, \\
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c &= 2004^d.
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\end{align*}</cmath>
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It follows that <cmath>x = 2001^{2002^{2003^{2004^d}}}.</cmath>
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The smallest value of <math>x</math> occurs when <math>d\rightarrow -\infty,</math> so this expression becomes
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<cmath>x = 2001^{2002^{2003^0}} = 2001^{2002^1} = \boxed{\textbf {(B) }2001^{2002}}.</cmath>
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==Video Solution (Logical Thinking)==
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https://youtu.be/46c-VN1QzWk
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~Education, the Study of Everything
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==

Latest revision as of 01:01, 23 January 2023

Problem

The set of all real numbers $x$ for which

\[\log_{2004}(\log_{2003}(\log_{2002}(\log_{2001}{x})))\]

is defined is $\{x\mid x > c\}$. What is the value of $c$?

$\textbf {(A) } 0\qquad \textbf {(B) }2001^{2002} \qquad \textbf {(C) }2002^{2003} \qquad \textbf {(D) }2003^{2004} \qquad \textbf {(E) }2001^{2002^{2003}}$

Solution 1

For all real numbers $a,b,$ and $c$ such that $b>1,$ note that:

  1. $\log_b a$ is defined if and only if $a>0.$
  2. $\log_b a>c$ if and only if $a>b^c.$

Therefore, we have \begin{align*} \log_{2004}(\log_{2003}(\log_{2002}(\log_{2001}{x}))) \text{ is defined} &\implies \log_{2003}(\log_{2002}(\log_{2001}{x}))>0 \\ &\implies \log_{2002}(\log_{2001}{x})>1 \\ &\implies \log_{2001}{x}>2002 \\ &\implies x>2001^{2002}, \end{align*} from which $c=\boxed{\textbf {(B) }2001^{2002}}.$

~Azjps ~MRENTHUSIASM

Solution 2

Let \begin{align*} x &= 2001^a, \\ a &= 2002^b, \\ b &= 2003^c, \\ c &= 2004^d. \end{align*} It follows that \[x = 2001^{2002^{2003^{2004^d}}}.\] The smallest value of $x$ occurs when $d\rightarrow -\infty,$ so this expression becomes \[x = 2001^{2002^{2003^0}} = 2001^{2002^1} = \boxed{\textbf {(B) }2001^{2002}}.\]

Video Solution (Logical Thinking)

https://youtu.be/46c-VN1QzWk

~Education, the Study of Everything

See also

2004 AMC 12A (ProblemsAnswer KeyResources)
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