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=== Solution 2 === | === Solution 2 === | ||
We can simplify our expressions by changing everything to a common base and by pulling exponents out of the logarithms. The given equations then become <math>\frac{\ln a}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln b}{\ln 4} = 5</math> and <math>\frac{\ln b}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln a}{\ln 4} = 7</math>. Adding the equations and factoring, we get <math>(\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4})(\ln a+ \ln b)=12</math>. Rearranging we see that <math>\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4}}</math>. Again, we pull exponents out of our logarithms to get <math>\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{3 \ln 2} + \frac{2}{2 \ln 2}} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{1}{3} + 1} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{4}{3}} = 9 \ln 2</math>. This means that <math>\frac{\ln ab}{\ln 2} = 9</math>. The left-hand side can be interpreted as a base-2 logarithm, giving us <math>ab = 2^9 = \boxed{512}</math>. | We can simplify our expressions by changing everything to a common base and by pulling exponents out of the logarithms. The given equations then become <math>\frac{\ln a}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln b}{\ln 4} = 5</math> and <math>\frac{\ln b}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln a}{\ln 4} = 7</math>. Adding the equations and factoring, we get <math>(\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4})(\ln a+ \ln b)=12</math>. Rearranging we see that <math>\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4}}</math>. Again, we pull exponents out of our logarithms to get <math>\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{3 \ln 2} + \frac{2}{2 \ln 2}} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{1}{3} + 1} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{4}{3}} = 9 \ln 2</math>. This means that <math>\frac{\ln ab}{\ln 2} = 9</math>. The left-hand side can be interpreted as a base-2 logarithm, giving us <math>ab = 2^9 = \boxed{512}</math>. | ||
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+ | === Solution 3 === | ||
+ | This solution is very similar to the above two, but it utilizes the well-known fact that <math> \log_m^k{n^k}= \log_n{m}. </math> Thus, <math> \log_8a+\log_4b^2=5 \Rightarrow | ||
+ | \log_{2^3}{(\sqrt[3]{a})^3} + \log_{2^2}{b^2} = 5 \Rightarrow \log_2{\sqrt[3]{a}} + \log_2{b} = 5 \Rightarrow \log_2{\sqrt[3]{a}b} = 5. </math> Similarly, <math> \log_8b+\log_4a^2=7 \Rightarrow \log_2{\sqrt[3]{b}a} = 7. </math> Adding these two equations, we have <math> \log_2{a^{\frac{4}{3}}b^{\frac{4}{3}}} = 12 \Rightarrow ab = 2^{12\times\frac{3}{4}} = 2^9 = \boxed{512} </math>. | ||
== See also == | == See also == |
Revision as of 23:31, 21 November 2011
Problem
Determine the value of if and .
Solution 1
Use the change of base formula to see that ; combine denominators to find that . Doing the same thing with the second equation yields that . This means that and that . If we multiply the two equations together, we get that , so taking the fourth root of that, .
Solution 2
We can simplify our expressions by changing everything to a common base and by pulling exponents out of the logarithms. The given equations then become and . Adding the equations and factoring, we get . Rearranging we see that . Again, we pull exponents out of our logarithms to get . This means that . The left-hand side can be interpreted as a base-2 logarithm, giving us .
Solution 3
This solution is very similar to the above two, but it utilizes the well-known fact that Thus, Similarly, Adding these two equations, we have .
See also
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