1984 AIME Problems/Problem 5

Problem

Determine the value of $ab$ if $\log_8a+\log_4b^2=5$ and $\log_8b+\log_4a^2=7$ .

Solution 1

Use the change of base formula to see that $\frac{\log a}{\log 8} + \frac{2 \log b}{\log 4} = 5$ ; combine denominators to find that $\frac{\log a^3b}{3\log 2} = 5$ . Doing the same thing with the second equation yields that $\frac{\log b^3a}{3\log 2} = 7$ . This means that $\log a^3b = 15\log 2 \Longrightarrow a^3b = 2^{15}$ and that $\log ab^3 = 21\log 2 \Longrightarrow ab^3 = 2^{21}$ . If we multiply the two equations together, we get that $a^4b^4 = 2^{36}$ , so taking the fourth root of that, $ab = 2^9 = \boxed{512}$ .

Solution 2

We can simplify our expressions by changing everything to a common base and by pulling exponents out of the logarithms. The given equations then become $\frac{\ln a}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln b}{\ln 4} = 5$ and $\frac{\ln b}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln a}{\ln 4} = 7$ . Adding the equations and factoring, we get $(\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4})(\ln a+ \ln b)=12$ . Rearranging we see that $\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4}}$ . Again, we pull exponents out of our logarithms to get $\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{3 \ln 2} + \frac{2}{2 \ln 2}} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{1}{3} + 1} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{4}{3}} = 9 \ln 2$ . This means that $\frac{\ln ab}{\ln 2} = 9 \ln 2$ . The left-hand side can be interpreted as a base-2 logarithm, giving us $ab = 2^9 = \boxed{512}$ .

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