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Let $ABC$ be a triangle. Distinct points $D$, $E$, $F$ lie on sides $BC$, $AC$, and $AB$, respectively, such that quadrilaterals $ABDE$ and $ACDF$ are cyclic. Line $AD$ meets the circumcircle of $\triangle ABC$ again at $P$. Let $Q$ denote the reflection of $P$ across $BC$. Show that $Q$ lies on the circumcircle of $\triangle AEF$.

Proposed by Ankan Bhattacharya
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The reflection of AD intersect (ABC) lies on (AEF)
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Let $ABC$ be a triangle. Distinct points $D$, $E$, $F$ lie on sides $BC$, $AC$, and $AB$, respectively, such that quadrilaterals $ABDE$ and $ACDF$ are cyclic. Line $AD$ meets the circumcircle of $\triangle ABC$ again at $P$. Let $Q$ denote the reflection of $P$ across $BC$. Show that $Q$ lies on the circumcircle of $\triangle AEF$.

Proposed by Ankan Bhattacharya
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I'm told that this problem was proposed by Brandon Wang and Eric Gan. I can't confirm whether that's true or not, though.
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This problem was proposed by Ankan Bhattacharya.
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v_Enhance wrote:
This problem was proposed by Ankan Bhattacharya.

Oh, thanks for the clarification.

Solution with Brandon Wang, Eric Gan, and 0 others:

Let $Q^* = \overline{BE} \cap \overline{CF}$. Then
\[\angle BCQ^* = \angle DCF = \angle DAF = \angle PAB = \angle PCB = \angle BCQ\]and analogously $\angle CBQ^* = \angle CBQ$, where we direct angles mod $180^\circ$.

It follows that $Q = Q^*$. Finally, to show that $Q$ lies on the circumcircle of $\triangle AEF$, note that
\[\angle AFQ = \angle AFC = \angle ADC = \angle ADB = \angle AEB = \angle AEQ\]and we are done.
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Moving points solution: Animate $D$ linearly on $BC$. Then $D \mapsto P \mapsto Q$ is a projective map (last map from reflection in $BC$). Also note that $Q$ moves on $\odot (BHC)$, where $H$ is orthocenter of $\triangle ABC$. Now consider $\sqrt{bc}$ inversion (denoting inverse of object $Z$ with $Z'$). Then $D \mapsto D' \mapsto E'$ is projective (last map by perspectivity at $B$ from $\odot (ABC)$ to $AC$). This gives $\text{deg}(E')=1$. Similarly, we get $\text{deg}(F')=1$. Also, $\text{deg}(Q')=2$ since $Q'$ moves projectively on a circle. Thus, it suffices to show that $E',F',Q'$ are collinear (i.e. prove the original problem) for $(1+1+2)+1=5$ positions of $D$. $D=B,C$ are obvious. Take $D$ as the foot of the $A$-altitude for the third position (and use the fact that reflection of orthocenter in $BC$ lies on circumcircle). Then take $D$ as the foot of the $A$-tangent. Then $\sqrt{bc}$ inversion gives that $E'$ and $F'$ lie on the perpendicular bisector of $BC$, and $Q'$ is the circumcenter of $\triangle ABC$. These are collinear, as desired. Finally consider $D$ as the foot of the $A$-symmedian. Then $Q$ is well known to be the $A$-Humpty point. In this case, the result follows from here. Hence, done. $\blacksquare$
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Reason: \sqrt{bc} not \sqrt{BC} :P
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By Angle Chasing, we get that $$\angle BQD = \angle BPD = \angle BCA = \angle BED$$So, $BFDQ$ is conncyclic. Similarly, we get that $CEQD$ is concyclic.
Therefore
\begin{align*}
\angle EQF &= 360^\circ - \angle DQF - \angle DQE \\ &= 360^\circ - (180^\circ - \angle CBA) - (180^\circ - \angle QCB) \\ &= 180^\circ - \angle BAC
\end{align*}which implies that $Q$ lies on the circumcircle of $\triangle AEF$
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Note that we have ...
$$\angle FCB = \angle FAD = \angle FAP = \angle BAP=\angle BCP = \angle BCQ$$So , $Q$ lies on $CF$
$$\angle CFA = \angle ADC = \angle BDP= \angle BDQ \implies BDQF \text{ is cyclic} $$Similarly , $CEQD$ is cyclic...
We are done by Miquel on ${{(D,E,F)}}$

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alifenix- wrote:
Let $ABC$ be a triangle. Distinct points $D$, $E$, $F$ lie on sides $BC$, $AC$, and $AB$, respectively, such that quadrilaterals $ABDE$ and $ACDF$ are cyclic. Line $AD$ meets the circumcircle of $\triangle ABC$ again at $P$. Let $Q$ denote the reflection of $P$ across $BC$. Show that $Q$ lies on the circumcircle of $\triangle AEF$.
Let $Q'=BE\cap CF$.We will first show that $Q'\in \odot{AEF}$.Indeed since $$\measuredangle{FQ'E}=-\measuredangle{BQ'C}=\measuredangle{Q'CB}+\measuredangle{CBQ'}=\measuredangle{FCB}+\measuredangle{CBE}=\measuredangle{FCD}+\measuredangle{DBE}=\measuredangle{FAD}+\measuredangle{DAE}=\measuredangle{FAE}$$which proves this Claim$\square$.

Back to the main problem we have $\measuredangle{CPD}=\measuredangle{CBA}=-\measuredangle{CED}=-\measuredangle{CQD}$ and similarly $\measuredangle{BPD}=-\measuredangle{BQD}$. hence $Q'$ is reflection of $P$ about $BC$ which implies $Q'\equiv Q$ and we are done$\square$
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It's quite interesting that both EGMO TST geometry problems were basically extensions of ELMO 2013 G3.
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Solution:

We use $\sqrt{bc}$ inversion. $D \mapsto D'$ on $(ABC)$ such that $\angle{BAP} = \angle{D'AC}$; $F \mapsto F' = BD' \cap AC$, $E \mapsto E' = CD' \cap AB$. We identify $Q'$ as follows: let $A_1$ be the reflection of $A$ in $BC$; then $Q, D, A_1$ are collinear and $QBA_1C$ is cyclic. Let $O$ be the circumcenter of $ABC$; we know that $A_1$ and $O$ swap under this inversion. Then $O, D', A,$ and $Q'$ must be concyclic; so must $B, O, C,$ and $Q'$.

Thus $Q'$, which we want to show lies on $E'F'$, is the intersection of $(BOC)$ and $(AOD')$. But then $Q'$ is just the Miquel point of $ABD'C$ so we are done.

@above haha, solved both the same way :P
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Morally Questionable Solution
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alifenix- wrote:
Let $ABC$ be a triangle. Distinct points $D$, $E$, $F$ lie on sides $BC$, $AC$, and $AB$, respectively, such that quadrilaterals $ABDE$ and $ACDF$ are cyclic. Line $AD$ meets the circumcircle of $\triangle ABC$ again at $P$. Let $Q$ denote the reflection of $P$ across $BC$. Show that $Q$ lies on the circumcircle of $\triangle AEF$.
The problem is quite trivial for any TST :). Anyways, here goes the solution:

Let $BE$ meet $CF$ at point $T$. We first prove the following.
Claim.The points $A,E,F,T$ are concyclic.
Proof. This simply follows because \begin{align*}\measuredangle{ETF} & =-\measuredangle{CTB}\\& =\measuredangle{BCT}+\measuredangle{TBC}\\& =\measuredangle{BCF}+\measuredangle{CBE}\\&
=\measuredangle{FCD}+\measuredangle{DBE}\\&
=\measuredangle{FAD}+\measuredangle{DAE}\\&
=\measuredangle{EAF}. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~\square\end{align*}
Therefore, we have $$\measuredangle{DPC}=\measuredangle{ABC}=-\measuredangle{DEC}=-\measuredangle{DQC}$$and similarly $\measuredangle{DPB}=-\measuredangle{DQB}$. Hence, we obtain that $T$ is reflection of $P$ about $BC$, which implies $Q\equiv T$ and hence, the conclusion follows.$\blacksquare$
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Nice :D , but quite trivial for a #4.
Claim. $BDQF$ is cyclic.
Proof. Notice that
\[ \measuredangle BFD = \measuredangle BCA = \measuredangle BPA \equiv \measuredangle BPD = \measuredangle BQD \]
Similarly, $DQEC$ is cyclic.
Hence, by Miquel Theorem, $AQFE$ is cyclic as well.
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wu2481632 wrote:
Solution:

We use $\sqrt{bc}$ inversion. $D \mapsto D'$ on $(ABC)$ such that $\angle{BAP} = \angle{D'AC}$; $F \mapsto F' = BD' \cap AC$, $E \mapsto E' = CD' \cap AB$. We identify $Q'$ as follows: let $A_1$ be the reflection of $A$ in $BC$; then $Q, D, A_1$ are collinear and $QBA_1C$ is cyclic. Let $O$ be the circumcenter of $ABC$; we know that $A_1$ and $O$ swap under this inversion. Then $O, D', A,$ and $Q'$ must be concyclic; so must $B, O, C,$ and $Q'$.
After this we can also proceed in the following way:
Let $X$ be the intersection of $AD'$ and $BC$.Then by brocards theorem $E'F'$ is the polar of $X$.
Again $Q'$ is the intersection of the circumcircle of $(BOC)$ and $OD'$.So inversion in $(ABC)$ sends $X$ to $Q'$.So $Q'$ also lies in polar of $X$.So $E',Q',F'$ are collinear.So inverting back $A,E,Q,F$ lies on a circle.
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