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N Apr 24, 2025 by sangsidhya
Source: 2023 IMO P4
Let $x_1,x_2,\dots,x_{2023}$ be pairwise different positive real numbers such that
\[a_n=\sqrt{(x_1+x_2+\dots+x_n)\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+\frac{1}{x_n}\right)}\]is an integer for every $n=1,2,\dots,2023.$ Prove that $a_{2023} \geqslant 3034.$
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Mount Inequality erupts on a sequence :o
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We show that we can not have $a_n=k$, $a_{n+1}=k+1$, and $a_{n+2}=k+2$, which is sufficient. Let $s=x_1+x_2+\dots+x_n$ and $t=\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+\frac{1}{x_n}$. Then $$k^2=st$$$$(k+1)^2=(s+x_{n+1})(t+\frac{1}{x_{n+1}})\iff  2k=t\cdot x_{n+1}+s\cdot \frac{1}{x_{n+1}}$$$$(k+2)^2=(s+x_{n+1}+x_{n+2})(t+\frac{1}{x_{n+1}}+\frac{1}{x_{n+2}})\iff 2k+2=(t+\frac{1}{x_{n+1}})\cdot x_{n+2}+(s+x_{n+1})\cdot \frac{1}{x_{n+1}}$$Applying AM-GM to the third equality we must have that $t\cdot x_{n+1}=s\cdot \frac{1}{x_{n+1}}\iff x_{n+1}=\frac{\sqrt{s}}{\sqrt{t}}$. Applying AM-GM to the fifth equality we must have that $(t+\frac{1}{x_{n+1}})\cdot x_{n+2}=$ $(s+x_{n+1})\cdot \frac{1}{x_{n+1}}\iff x_{n+2}=\frac{\sqrt{s}}{\sqrt{t}}$, a contradiction.
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Sammy27
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dkedu
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We will show that $a_{n+2} \ge a_n + 3$ which implies the result since $a_1 = 1$.

By Cauchy-Schwarz we have \[a_{n+2} = \sqrt{[(x_1+x_2+\dots+ x_n) + (x_{n+1} + x_{n+2})]\left[\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+ \frac 1{x_n} \right)+ \left(\frac{1}{x_{n+1}} + \frac{1}{x_{n+2}}\right)\right]} \ge \sqrt{(x_1+x_2+\dots+x_n)\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+\frac{1}{x_n}\right)} + \sqrt{\frac{(x_{n+1} + x_{n+2})^2 }{x_{n+1}x_{n+2}}} > a_n + 2\]where the final inequality is strict since $x_{n+1} \neq x_{n+2}$ so we have the result $a_{n+2} \ge a_n + 3$ since $a_i$ is an integer for all $i$ so we are done.
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brainfertilzer
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Note that $a_1 = 1$ so it suffices to show $a_{n+2}\ge a_n + 3$ for all $n$ and we'll be done by induction. Fix $n$ and let $S = \sum_{i\le n} x_i$ and $T = \sum_{i\le n}1/x_i$. Relabel $x_{n+1}, x_{n+2}$ as $p,q$ for convenience of typesetting. Then note that
\[ a_{n+2} = \sqrt{\left(S + p + q\right)\left(T + \frac{1}{p} + \frac{1}{q}\right)}\stackrel{\text{CS}}{\ge} \sqrt{ST} + \sqrt{p\cdot \frac{1}{p}} + \sqrt{q \cdot \frac{1}{q}} = a_n + 2.\]But note that equality only holds if $S/T = p/(1/p) = q/(1/q)$. But this means $p^2 = q^2\implies p = q$, impossible since the $x_i$ are distinct. Hence equality doesn't hold and we have $a_{n+2} > a_n + 2$. Since the $a_i$ are integers, this means $a_{n+2}\ge a_n + 3$ as needed.
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N3bula
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Proceed by induction, clearly we have that $a_1=1$, I will now prove $a_{n+2}>a_{n}+2$ which gives $a_{n+2}\geq a_n+3$.
We get:
\[a_{n+2}^2=a_n^2+\left( \frac{1}{x_{n+1}} +\frac{1}{x_{n+2}} \right)(x_{n+1}+x_{n+2})+(x_{n+1}+x_{n+2})\left(\sum_{i=1}^{n}\frac{1}{x_i}\right)+\left(\frac{1}{x_{n+1}}+\frac{1}{x_{n+2}}\right)\left(\sum_{i=1}^{n}x_i\right)\]Now by two applications of am-gm and the fact $a_{n+1}\neq a_{n+2}$ we get:
\[a_{n+2}^2> a_n^2+4+2a_n\sqrt{\left( \frac{1}{x_{n+1}} +\frac{1}{x_{n+2}} \right)(x_{n+1}+x_{n+2})}\]A final am-gm application gives:
\[a_{n+2}^2>a_n^2+4a_n+4\]Which suffices.
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bobthesmartypants
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Intimidating-looking problem that ends up being not so bad at all.

We use induction to show $a_{2n-1}\ge 3n-2$ and $a_{2n}\ge 3n$. Base cases $a_1=1$ is trivial, and $a_2\ge 3$ follows from Cauchy-Schwarz $$a_2= \sqrt{(x_1+x_2)\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}\right)} > 2\implies a_2\ge 3$$noting that equality case $x_1=x_2$ cannot be obtained.

Now assuming $a_{2n-1}\ge 3n-2$ and $a_{2n}\ge 3n$, we first find by Cauchy Schwarz
\begin{align*}
a_{2n+1} 
&= \sqrt{(x_1+\cdots +x_{2n}+x_{2n+1})\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\cdots + \frac{1}{x_{2n}}+\frac{1}{x_{2n+1}}\right)}\\
&= \sqrt{((x_1+\cdots +x_{2n})+x_{2n+1})\left(\frac{a_{2n}^2}{x_1+\cdots +x_{2n}}+\frac{1}{x_{2n+1}}\right)}\\
&\ge a_{2n}+1 \ge 3(n+1)-2
\end{align*}with equality case $x_{2n+1} = \frac{x_1+\cdots +x_{2n}}{a_{2n}}$, as desired.

Similarly, we find $a_{2n+2}\ge a_{2n+1}+1$ with equality case $x_{2n+2} = \frac{x_1+\cdots +x_{2n+1}}{a_{2n+1}}$. Now, the key insight is to realize that these two equality cases cannot both be true. If they were, then $x_{2n+1}$ is the average of $x_1, \ldots, x_{2n}$ and $a_{2n}-2n$ zeros. Meanwhile, since for equality case $a_{2n+1} = a_{2n}+1$, then $x_{2n+2}$ is the average of $x_1, \ldots, x_{2n}$ and $a_{2n}-2n$ zeros and $x_{2n+1}$, the average of these numbers, which is still just the average of these numbers. In other words, $x_{2n+2} = x_{2n+1}$, which is disallowed. Thus, in actuality $a_{2n+2}\ge a_{2n+1}+2 \ge 3(n+1)$ as desired.

Bringing it back to the problem at hand, we get $a_{2023}\ge 3034$.
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cursed_tangent1434
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This is a really interesting problem, and I was pleasantly surprised when I managed to solve this in contest two years ago.

We proceed via induction to show that for all odd integers $n$ , $a_n \ge n + \frac{n-1}{2}$.

First note that
\[a_1 = \sqrt{x_1 \cdot \frac{1}{x_1}}=1\]
Now, assume the claim is true for some odd integer $m=2k+1 \ge1$. Throughout this proof, we will use the following key inequality,

Claim : For all positive real numbers $a$ and $b$,
\[(a+b)\left(\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}\right) \ge 4\]

Proof : This is simply Cauchy Schwarz. Note that,
\[(\sqrt{a}^2 + \sqrt{b}^2)\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}^2}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{b}^2}\right) \ge (1+1)^2 = 4\]as desired.

Now, we are ready for the induction. Note,
\begin{align*}
a_{m+2} &=\sqrt{(x_1+x_2+\dots+x_{m+2})\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+\frac{1}{x_{m+2}}\right)}\\
a_{m+2}^2 & = (x_1+x_2+\dots+x_{m+2})\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+\frac{1}{x_{m+2}}\right)\\
a_{m+2}^2 &=  (x_1+x_2+\dots+x_m)\left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+\frac{1}{x_m}\right) + \left(\frac{1}{x_{m+1}} +\frac{1}{x_{m+2}}\right)(x_{m+1}+x_{m+2})\\
& + (x_1+x_2 + \dots + x_m)\left(\frac{1}{x_{m+1}}+\frac{1}{x_{m+2}}\right) + \left(\frac{1}{x_1}+\frac{1}{x_2}+\dots+\frac{1}{x_m}\right)(x_{m+1}+x_{m+2})\\
& \ge (3k+1)^2 + 4 + \frac{(3k+1)^2(x_{m+1}+x_{m+2})}{x_1+x_2+\dots + x_m} + \frac{4(x_1+x_2+\dots + x_m)}{x_{m+1}+x_{m+2}}\\
& \ge (3k+1)^2 +4 + 2 \sqrt{\frac{4(3k+1)^2(x_{m+1}+x_{m+2})(x_1+x_2+\dots + x_m)}{(x_1+x_2+\dots + x_m)(x_{m+1}+x_{m+2})}}\\
& \ge (3k+1)^2 + 4(3k+1) + 4\\
& \ge (3k+3)^2\\
a_{m+2} & \ge 3k+3
\end{align*}But, if $a_{m+2}=3k+3$, equality must hold at each of the above inequalities. In particular we need
\[ \left(\frac{1}{x_{m+1}} +\frac{1}{x_{m+2}}\right)(x_{m+1}+x_{m+2})=4\]which requires $x_{m+1}=x_{m+2}$ which is impossible if $x_1,x_2,\dots,x_{m+2}$ are pairwise distinct positive reals. Thus equality does not hold and $a_{m+2}>3k+3$. Further since $a_{m+2}$ is an integer we must have $a_{m+2} \ge 3k+4$ so,
\[a_{m+2} \ge (m+2) + \frac{m+1}{2}\]which completes the induction. Thus,
\[a_{2023} \ge 2023 + \frac{2022}{2} = 3034\]
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HamstPan38825
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Observe that $a_1 = 1 < a_2 < \dots$. The crux of the problem is the following claim:

Claim: There does not exist an index $n$ such that $a_{n+1} - a_n = 1$ and $a_n - a_{n-1} = 1$ simultaneously.

Proof: Suppose such an index $n$ existed. Then observe that
\begin{align*}
a_n^2 &= a_{n-1}^2 + 1 + x_n\left(\frac 1{x_1} + \frac 1{x_2} + \cdots +\frac 1{x_{n-1}}\right) + \frac 1{x_n}\left(x_1+x_2+\cdots+x_n\right) \\
&\geq a_{n-1}^2 + 1 + 2\sqrt{(x_1+x_2+\cdots+x_n)\left(\frac 1{x_1} + \frac 1{x_2} + \cdots + \frac 1{x_n}\right)} \\
&= (a_n+1)^2.
\end{align*}Importantly, equality only holds when $x_n = \sqrt{\frac{x_1+x_2+\cdots+x_{n-1}}{\frac 1{x_1} +\frac 1{x_2}+\cdots+\frac 1{x_{n-1}}}}$. Let $A$ and $B$ be the numerator and denominator of this quantity. The same argument applied to the index $n+1$ yields \[x_{n+1} = \sqrt{\frac{A+\sqrt{\frac AB}}{B+\sqrt{\frac BA}}} = \sqrt{\frac{A\sqrt{AB}+A}{B\sqrt{AB}+B}} = \sqrt{\frac AB} = x_n\]which is a contradiction. $\blacksquare$

So in particular, $a_{n+2} - a_n \geq 3$ for each $n$. It follows that $a_{2023} \geq 1 + 1011 \cdot 3 = 3034$.
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Aiden-1089
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Note that $a_1=1$. It suffices to show that $a_{n+2} \geq a_n+3$ for all $n$.
Noting that $x_{n+1}, x_{n+2}$ are distinct,
\begin{align*}
a_{n+2}^2 &=\left(\sum_{i=1}^{n+2} x_i \right)\left(\sum_{i=1}^{n+2} \frac{1}{x_i} \right) \\
&=a_n^2 + (x_{n+1}+x_{n+2})\left(\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{1}{x_i} \right) + \left(\frac{1}{x_{n+1}} + \frac{1}{x_{n+2}} \right)\left(\sum_{i=1}^n x_i \right) + (x_{n+1}+x_{n+2})\left(\frac{1}{x_{n+1}} + \frac{1}{x_{n+2}} \right) \\
&> a_n^2 + (x_{n+1}+x_{n+2})\left(\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{1}{x_i} \right) + \left(\frac{4}{x_{n+1}+x_{n+2}} \right)\left(\sum_{i=1}^n x_i \right) + 4 \\
&\geq a_n^2 + 4 \sqrt{\left(\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{1}{x_i} \right)\left(\sum_{i=1}^n x_i \right)} + 4 =(a_n+2)^2.
\end{align*}Since $a_{n+2}$ and $a_n$ are integers, $a_{n+2} > a_n+2 \implies a_{n+2} \geq a_n+3$ so we are done.
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AshAuktober
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Very beautiful problem, definitely one of the nicer algebra problems out there.
Claim 1: $a_{n+1} \ge a_n + 1$ with equality iff $x_{n+1} = \frac{x_1 + \dots + x_n}{a_n}$.
Proof: We have
$$a_{n+1} = \sqrt{a_n^2 + 1 + x_{n+1}  \left(\frac{1}{x_1} + \frac{1}{x_2} + ... + \frac{1}{x_n}\right) +\frac{ x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{x_{n+1}}}$$$$\stackrel{\textrm{AM-GM}}{\ge} \sqrt{a_n^2 + 1 + 2a_n} = a_n + 1.$$Equality holds iff equality holds in AM-GM, i. e.
$$x_{n+1}^2 = \frac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{\frac{1}{x_1} + \frac{1}{x_2} + ... + \frac{1}{x_n}} = \frac{ x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{\frac{a_n}{ x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}}$$$$\iff x_{n+1} = \frac{x_1 + \dots + x_n}{a_n}$$as desired. $\square$

Claim 2: We cannot simultaneously have $a_{n+2} = a_{n+1} + 1, a_{n+1} = a_n + 1$.
Proof: Note that for equality to hold in both cases, we need
$$x_{n+2} = \frac{x_1 + x_2 + \dots + x_n + x_{n+1}}{a_n + 1} = \frac{\frac{a_n+1}{a_n} \times x_1 + \dots + x_n}{a_n+1} = \frac{x_1 + x_2 + \dots + x_n}{a_n} = x_{n+1}.$$But the sequence is composed of distinct terms, so this is impossible. $\square$

Note that due to Claim 2, we must have $a_{n+2} \ge a_n + 3$. Therefore,
$$a_{2023} \ge a_{2021} + 3$$$$\ge a_{2019} + 6$$$$\ge a_{2017} + 9$$$$\vdots$$$$\ge a_1 + 3 \times 1011 = 3034$$as desired. $\blacksquare$
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Let $S_n := x_1 + \cdots + x_n$ and $T_n := \frac{1}{x_1} + \cdots + \frac{1}{x_n}$, then
\[\begin{aligned}
a_{n + 2}^2 &= (S_n + x_{n + 1} + x_{n + 2})\left(T_n + \frac{1}{x_{n + 1}} + \frac{1}{x_{n + 2}}\right) \\
                    &= S_n T_n + \frac{S_n}{x_{n + 1}} + x_{n + 1}T_n + \frac{S_n}{x_{n + 2}} + x_{n + 2}T_n + \frac{x_{n+2}}{x_{n+1}} + \frac{x_{n + 1}}{x_{n+2}} + 2 \\
                    &\ge a_n^2 + 2a_n + 2a_n + 4 = (a_n + 2)^2
\end{aligned}\]
The equality cannot hold because $x_{n + 1} \neq x_{n + 2}$, thus $a_{n + 2} \ge a_n + 3$ and $a_{2n + 1} \ge 3n + 1$ follows easily by induction.

I am surprised that it is rated A3 on the shortlist, considering the difficulty of this problem.
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Note that by CS: $$a_n=\sqrt{(x_1+\dots+x_{n-2}+x_{n-1}+x_n)(1/x_1+\dots+1/x_{n-2}+1/x_{n-1}+1/x_n)} \geq \sqrt{(x_1+\dots+x_{n-2})(1/x_1+\dots+1/x_{n-2})}+\sqrt{x_{n-1}\cdot \frac{1}{x_{n-1}}}+\sqrt{x_n\cdot \frac{1}{x_n}}=a_{n-2}+2.$$If equality were to hold, then we would have $\frac{x_n}{1/x_n}=\frac{x_{n-1}}{1/x_{n-1}}$ i.e. $x_n=x_{n-1}$, which is not possible. Thus, $$a_n>a_{n-2}+2\implies a_n\geq a_{n-2}+3.$$By induction it follows that $a_{2023}\geq 3033+a_1=3034$, as desired. 
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Ilikeminecraft
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We prove the following lower bound via induction:
Claim: $a_n\geq \frac{3n + 1}{2}$
Proof: We prove $a_n \geq a_{n - 2} + 2$ with induction. First, note that $a_1 = 1.$

Now, we prove the inductive step. Observe that
\begin{align*}
            a_n^2 & = a_{n - 2}^2  + \left(\frac1{x_n} + \frac1{x_{n - 1}}\right)(x_{n - 2} + x_{n - 3} + \dots + x_1) + (x_n + x_{n - 1})\left(\frac1{x_{n - 2}} + \frac1{x_{n - 3}} + \dots + \frac1{x_1}\right) + \left(\frac1{x_n} + \frac1{x_{n - 1}}\right)(x_n + x_{n - 1})\\
            & \geq a_{n- 2}^2 + 4 + 2\sqrt{(x_n + x_{n - 1})\left(\frac1{x_{n - 2}} + \frac1{x_{n - 3}} + \dots + \frac1{x_1}\right)\left(\frac1{x_n} + \frac1{x_{n - 1}}\right)(x_n + x_{n - 1})} \\
            & \geq a_{n - 2}^2 + 4 + 4a_{n - 2} = (a_{n - 2} + 2)^2
        \end{align*}
This finishes.
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Where is shortlist 2024 huh, some people in my country (including me) already have it and there is no reason to not post it in here cause it's potentially public now LOL
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Motivation. It is obvious to see that $3034=2022\times\frac 32+1,$ which leads us to the lemma below$.$
Lemma. For $\forall n\in\mathbb Z_+,a_{n+2}\geq a_n+3.$
how does it intuitively lead to this?
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