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By vieta's we know the sum of the roots must be <math>-a</math>, a real number. That means <math>4w+12i-4</math> is a real number, meaning <math>w</math> has an imaaginary component of <math>-3i</math>. | By vieta's we know the sum of the roots must be <math>-a</math>, a real number. That means <math>4w+12i-4</math> is a real number, meaning <math>w</math> has an imaaginary component of <math>-3i</math>. | ||
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We get <math>|a+b+c| = |-12+84-208| = \boxed{136}</math>. | We get <math>|a+b+c| = |-12+84-208| = \boxed{136}</math>. | ||
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[hide]Problem 7
Let , where , , and are real. There exists a complex number such that the three roots of are , , and , where . Find .
Solution (vieta's)
Set , so , , .
Since , the imaginary part of must be .
Start with a, since it's the easiest one to do: ,
and therefore: , , .
Now, do the part where the imaginary part of c is 0 since it's the second easiest one to do: . The imaginary part is , which is 0, and therefore , since doesn't work.
So now, ,
and therefore: . Finally, we have .
Solution 1b
Same as solution 1 except that when you get to , , , you don't need to find the imaginary part of . We know that is a real number, which means that and are complex conjugates. Therefore, .
Solution 2 (casework)
Note that at least one of , , or is real by complex conjugate roots. We now separate into casework based on which one.
Let , where and are reals.
Case 1: is real. This implies that is real, so by setting the imaginary part equal to zero we get , so . Now note that since is real, and are complex conjugates. Thus , so , implying that , so .
Case 2: is real. This means that is real, so again setting imaginary part to zero we get , so . Now by the same logic as above and are complex conjugates. Thus , so , so , which has no solution as is real.
Case 3: is real. Going through the same steps, we get , so . Now and are complex conjugates, but , which means that , so , which has no solutions.
Thus case 1 is the only one that works, so and our polynomial is . Note that instead of expanding this, we can save time by realizing that the answer format is , so we can plug in to our polynomial to get the sum of coefficients, which will give us . Plugging in into our polynomial, we get which evaluates to . Since this is , we subtract 1 from this to get , so .
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Solution 3 (skibid)
By vieta's we know the sum of the roots must be , a real number. That means is a real number, meaning has an imaaginary component of .
Now we write . Then, is the real root, meaning the other two are complex conjugates. We have , and solving, we get . Then, .
We get .
-skibbysiggy
See also
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