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He should choose MOP because you are being deprived of MOP?
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AwesomeToad, Mar 13, 2013, 4:33 PM
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It's really so much more satisfying to have an original result attached to your name than to solve yet another contest problem ... plus undergraduate research opportunities at top schools are harder to come by than you might expect. I suppose there is the element of novelty that yugrey mentioned for someone who has never gone to MOP, but I know if I had already been once (let alone twice) I would definitely pick RSI. This is probably less important, but given their excellent history, you are also almost guaranteed to win something in some major competition (Siemens, Intel, Davidson, etc.) which is kind of nice.
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I think "How much do you want research experience" is the big question here. Research experience and "doing real math" are not the same thing here at all.
If you want only to do real math and not research experience, it's probably more helpful to go to Mathcamp or something similar/just spend your summer reading under the guidance of a professor.
RSI will (from what I know of; I have not gone to RSI myself) go to much greater depth than you have probably seen before. This will do a few things:
1.) It will show you how much math there is out there. This is actually a huge benefit, and this is IMO the biggest benefit in terms of "learning real math."
2.) It will show you what it is like to focus on depth. But do not take this to be indicative of all research; breadth done in a proper way can go deeper than sheer focus on depth. (If you do not believe me, read scheme theory and then maybe étale cohomology...)
So, think about how much you want to try to do research on one problem and decide based on that. The advice I've been given by various people is that if you have the option to learn graduate-level math in great breadth, you should do so, because the opportunity to do so will be less present once you actually become a grad student. So certainly don't think that to do real math, you need to spend all your time doing research right away.
If you want only to do real math and not research experience, it's probably more helpful to go to Mathcamp or something similar/just spend your summer reading under the guidance of a professor.
RSI will (from what I know of; I have not gone to RSI myself) go to much greater depth than you have probably seen before. This will do a few things:
1.) It will show you how much math there is out there. This is actually a huge benefit, and this is IMO the biggest benefit in terms of "learning real math."
2.) It will show you what it is like to focus on depth. But do not take this to be indicative of all research; breadth done in a proper way can go deeper than sheer focus on depth. (If you do not believe me, read scheme theory and then maybe étale cohomology...)
So, think about how much you want to try to do research on one problem and decide based on that. The advice I've been given by various people is that if you have the option to learn graduate-level math in great breadth, you should do so, because the opportunity to do so will be less present once you actually become a grad student. So certainly don't think that to do real math, you need to spend all your time doing research right away.
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Ask freakonomics.
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fortenforge, Mar 14, 2013, 12:16 AM
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Personally, I would choose RSI, basically for the reasons given by pythag and dinoboy, if you're looking for research experience. For me, I would prefer RSI simply because imho being able to do some actual research and gain a view of broader, higher level math is tons more rewarding than learning more olympiad math. Sure, olympiad math knowledge/skills are pretty useful in high school competitions, but a lot of it is going to be pretty meaningless in the future. Imho actual math related things are much more interesting and rewarding than doing olympiad math, which is essentially why my activity on doing math contest problems has slowed to basically just a trickle (and unfortunately my willingness to post in the AoPS NT forums now) and replaced with other math stuff.
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congrats on RSI - you should definitely choose that (for the reasons that others said above... I don't want to seem redundant by repeating them haha)! i got wait listed >_>
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