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Assassino9931   4
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Source: Bulgaria Spring Mathematical Competition 2025 9.2
Let $ABC$ be an acute scalene triangle inscribed in a circle \( \Gamma \). The angle bisector of \( \angle BAC \) intersects \( BC \) at \( L \) and \( \Gamma \) at \( S \). The point \( M \) is the midpoint of \( AL \). Let \( AD \) be the altitude in \( \triangle ABC \), and the circumcircle of \( \triangle DSL \) intersects \( \Gamma \) again at \( P \). Let \( N \) be the midpoint of \( BC \), and let \( K \) be the reflection of \( D \) with respect to \( N \). Prove that the triangles \( \triangle MPS \) and \( \triangle ADK \) are similar.
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CHKMO 2017 Q3
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N Mar 29, 2025 by Entei
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Let ABC be an acute-angled triangle. Let D be a point on the segment BC, I the incentre of ABC. The circumcircle of ABD meets BI at P and the circumcircle of ACD meets CI at Q. If the area of PID and the area of QID are equal, prove that PI*QD=QI*PD.
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Let ABC be an acute-angled triangle. Let D be a point on the segment BC, I the incentre of ABC. The circumcircle of ABD meets BI at P and the circumcircle of ACD meets CI at Q. If the area of PID and the area of QID are equal, prove that PI*QD=QI*PD.
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May I know what CHKMO stands for ?

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noobatron3000 wrote:
Let $ABC$ be an acute-angled triangle. Let $D$ be a point on the segment $BC,$ $I$ the incentre of $ABC.$ The circumcircle of $ABD$ meets $BI$ at $P$ and the circumcircle of $ACD$ meets $CI$ at $Q.$ If the area of $PID$ and the area of $QID$ are equal, prove that $PI\cdot QD=QI\cdot PD.$

Let $E$ be a point on $BC$ such that $(B,C;D,E)=-1.$ The condition that $[PID]=[QID]$ implies that $ID$ is median. Notice that $-1=(IP,IQ;ID,\infty)\stackrel{I}{=}(B,C;D,E) \implies IE\perp AD.$ Now we cliam that $D$ is the foot of $I$ on $BC.$
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WLOG assume $AB>AC.$ We use barycentric coordinate. Set $D=(0:m:a-m)$ and $E=(0:t:a+b+c-t)$ where $0<m<a$ and $\tfrac{t}{a+b+c-t}=\tfrac{-m}{a-m}\implies t=\tfrac{m(a+b+c)}{2m-a}.$ Thus
\[\overrightarrow{DA}=(a,-m,m-a),\quad \overrightarrow{EI}=(a,b-t,t-a-b).\]By the perpendicular formula we get
\[0=a^2(m(a+b)-mt+mb-mt-ab+at)+b^2(at-a^2-ab+ma-a^2)+c^2(ab-at-ma),\]collect the $t$ terms we get
\[(2ma-a^2+c^2-b^2)t=am(a+2b)-b(a^2+b^2+2ab-c^2)+m(b^2-c^2).\]Substitute $a(2m-a)t=am(a+b+c)$ we get
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(c^2-b^2)t&=am(b-c)+m(b^2-c^2)-b((a+b)^2-c^2)\\
&=m(b-c)(a+b+c)-b(a+b+c)(a+b-c)\\
&=(a+b+c)(mb-mc-ab-b^2+bc).
\end{aligned}\]Using $(2m-a)t=m(a+b+c)$ again we get
\[(c^2-b^2)m=(2m-a)(mb-mc-ab-b^2+bc),\]which is the following quadratic in $m$:
\[2(b-c)m^2-m(c^2+b^2-2bc+3ab-ac)+ab(a+b-c)=0.\]Since $0<m<a$ so we conclude that $m=\tfrac{a+b-c}{2},$ as desired.

It's easy to see that $\angle PIQ=90^\circ+\tfrac{1}{2}\angle A$ and $\angle QAP=90^\circ-\tfrac{1}{2}\angle A,$ so $A,I,P,Q$ are concyclic. Notice that $DI$ is median and $AI$ is isogonal to $DI$ with respect to $\angle PIQ,$ it follows that $A,P,I,Q$ is harmonic quadrilateral. Therefore $QI\cdot PD=QI\cdot AP=PI\cdot QA=PI\cdot QD.$
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I've been thinking over this for a bit now...does anyone have a solution without projective (still haven't learned it :() and without bary, complex :P

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Let $P',Q'$ be the intersections of $DQ$ with $PB$ and $DP$ with $QC$ .$\angle P'DA =\frac{1}{2}\angle C,\angle ADQ' =\frac{1}{2}\angle B$ thus $Q'IP'D$ is cyclic .
we have $PP'.QD.\sin PP'D=QQ'.PD.\sin QQ'D$ then $(PI+IP').QD.\sin PP'D=(QI+IQ').PD.\sin QQ'D$ since $PID$ and $QID$ have the same area and $ \angle PP'D$ and $ \angle QQ'D$ are supplementary then $PI.QD=QI.PD$ .
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As in the solution by PROF65, let $P',Q'$ be the intersections of $DQ$ with $PB$ and $DP$ with $QC$, then $Q'IP'D$ is cyclic.


Since $\triangle PID$ and $\triangle QID$ have the same area, $DI$ will pass through the midpoint $M$ of $PQ$, then by Ceva's theorem we have $\frac{DP'}{P'Q}\cdot \frac{QM}{PM}\cdot \frac{PQ'}{Q'D}=1$ so $\frac{DP'}{P'Q}= \frac{PQ'}{Q'D}$ so $PQ\parallel P'Q'$.

Angle chasing yields
$\angle P'DI=\angle P'Q'I=\angle IQP$ and $\angle Q'DI=\angle Q'P'I=\angle IPQ$.
Therefore, $$\frac{PI}{QI}=\frac{\sin \angle IQP }{\sin \angle IPQ}=\frac{\sin \angle P'DI(=\angle QDI) }{\sin \angle Q'DI(=\angle PDI)}=\frac{PD}{QD}$$since $DI$ is the $D$-median of $\triangle DPQ$. And so we are done.
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We first understand two unusual conditions in the problem.
$S_{\triangle PID} = S_{\triangle QID}$ means that $I$ is on the median of $\triangle DPQ$.
$PI \cdot QD=QI \cdot PD$ means that $I$ should (not yet proved) lie on the Apollonian circle of $\triangle DPQ$.
Combine the two observations, $I$ should be the $HM$-point of $\triangle DPQ$, which is what we are going to prove.
Notice that $A$ and $D$ are reflections across the line $PQ$, from $AP = DP$ and $AQ = DQ$.
Lastly, $A$, $P$, $I$, $Q$ are concyclic by angle chasing, $\angle API + \angle AQI = \angle ADB + \angle ADC = \pi$.
Hence, $I$ lies on the reflection of circumcircle $(DPQ)$ across $PQ$, which implies that $I$ is the $HM$-point of $\triangle DPQ$ as desired.

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