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Source: Bulgaria EGMO TST 2018 Day 2 Problem 1
The angle bisectors at $A$ and $C$ in a non-isosceles triangle $ABC$ with incenter $I$ intersect its circumcircle $k$ at $A_0$ and $C_0$, respectively. The line through $I$, parallel to $AC$, intersects $A_0C_0$ at $P$. Prove that $PB$ is tangent to $k$.
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A projectional vision in IGO
Shayan-TayefehIR   15
N Mar 30, 2025 by mcmp
Source: IGO 2024 Advanced Level - Problem 3
In the triangle $\bigtriangleup ABC$ let $D$ be the foot of the altitude from $A$ to the side $BC$ and $I$, $I_A$, $I_C$ be the incenter, $A$-excenter, and $C$-excenter, respectively. Denote by $P\neq B$ and $Q\neq D$ the other intersection points of the circle $\bigtriangleup BDI_C$ with the lines $BI$ and $DI_A$, respectively. Prove that $AP=AQ$.

Proposed Michal Jan'ik - Czech Republic
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Shayan-TayefehIR
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In the triangle $\bigtriangleup ABC$ let $D$ be the foot of the altitude from $A$ to the side $BC$ and $I$, $I_A$, $I_C$ be the incenter, $A$-excenter, and $C$-excenter, respectively. Denote by $P\neq B$ and $Q\neq D$ the other intersection points of the circle $\bigtriangleup BDI_C$ with the lines $BI$ and $DI_A$, respectively. Prove that $AP=AQ$.

Proposed Michal Jan'ik - Czech Republic
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I didn't like it very much, because it's basically two not much related problems combined into one problem (or at least my solution makes it look like that). Anyway, we show that $AP=AI=AQ$, refer to the first image for $AQ=AI$ and to the second for $AP=AI$.
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Part $I$: $AI=AQ$.
Proof of Part $I$: We have $I_AI.I_AA=I_AB.I_AC=I_AD.I_AQ$ hence $Q,A,I,D$ are concyclic. Also since $-1=(DC,DA;DI_A,DI)=(DC,DA;DQ,DI)$ and $\measuredangle ADC=90$, we observe that $\measuredangle QDA=\measuredangle ADI$ which implies $AQ=AI$.$\square$

Part $II$: $AI=AP$.
Proof of Part $II$: First we present a lemma.
Lemma: $ABC$ is a triangle with $AB=AC$ and altitude $AD$. Let $P$ be an arbitrary point on $BC$ where $I_1,I_2$ are the incenters of $\triangle PAB$ and $\triangle PAC$. Prove that $I_1,I_2,P,D$ are concyclic.
Proof: This is a special case of Serbia 2018 P1 and it can be proved by the method of moving points with rotations centered at $A$ and $D$.$\square$
Let $K\in BI$ with $AI=AK$ We will show that $\measuredangle I_CDK=\measuredangle I_CBK=90$. Let $C'$ be the reflection of $C$ over $D$. $CI\cap AD=F,BI_C\cap C'F=S$. By above lemma, since $S$ and $I$ are the incenters of triangles $\triangle AC'B$ and $\triangle ACB$ we see that $S,B,I,D$ are concyclic. Apply DDIT on quadrilateral $SI_CIK$ to get that $(\overline{DS},\overline{DI}),(\overline{DI_C},\overline{DK}),(\overline{DB},\overline{DF})$ is an involution. Note that $\measuredangle BDF=90=\measuredangle SDI$ hence this involution must be rotating $90$ degrees. Thus, $\measuredangle I_CDK=90$ as desired.$\blacksquare$
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This is also very easy using barycentric coordinates.

Claim: $AQ=AI$.

Proof: Notice that $AI_cBI$ is cyclic so by PoP we have \[I_aA\cdot I_aI=I_aB\cdot I_aI_c=I_aD\cdot I_aQ\]So $DIAQ$ is cyclic. Now note that $-1=(I_a,I;AI\cap BC,A)$ and $\angle ADC=90^\circ$, so $DA$ is the angle bisector of $\angle QDI$ so $AQ=AI$.

Now we use barycentric coordinates to show that $AP=AI$. Set $ \triangle ABC$ as the reference triangle.

\begin{align*}
    D&=(0:a^2+b^2-c^2:a^2+c^2-b^2)\\
    I_c&=(a:b:-c)
\end{align*}
The equation of the circle $(I_cBD)$ is \[-a^2yz-b^2zx-c^2xy+(x+y+c)(ux+vy+wz)=0\]Now since $B$ lies on this circle we get $v=0$. Plugging $D$ and canceling a factor of $a^2(a^2+c^2-b^2)$ gives $w=(a^2+b^2-c^2)/2$. Finally, plugging $I_c$ in the equation yields \[ua-wc=-abc\implies ua+wc=2wc-abc=c(a^2+b^2-c^2-ab)\]
Now let $P=(a:t:c)$. Plugging $P$ in the equation and canceling a factor of $c(a-b+c)$ gives \[t=\frac{a^2}{b+c}-c\]Therefore \[P=\left(\frac{b+c}{a+b+c},\frac{a^2-bc-c^2}{a(a+b+c)},\frac{bc+c^2}{a(a+b+c)}\right)\]So $\overrightarrow{AP}$ has displacement vector \[\left(\frac{-a}{a+b+c},\frac{a^2-bc-c^2}{a(a+b+c)},\frac{bc+c^2}{a(a+b+c)}\right)\]Finally, plugging this into the length formula gives

\begin{align*}
    (a+b+c)^2\cdot AP^2&=-(a^2-bc-c^2)(bc+c^2)+b^2(bc+c^2)+c^2(a^2-bc-c^2)\\
    &=-a^2bc+2b^2c^2+b^3c+c^3b
\end{align*}
The displacement vector of $\overrightarrow{AI}$ is \[\left(\frac{-b-c}{a+b+c},\frac{b}{a+b+c},\frac{c}{a+b+c}\right)\]So by the distance formula \[(a+b+c)^2\cdot AI^2=-a^2bc+2b^2c^2+b^3c+c^3b\]And this concludes the proof. $\blacksquare$
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egxa
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Another way for $AI=AP$ is in complex plane $P=a^2+b^2+\frac{b^2c}{a}+bc+ba$
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One can easily prove that $AIDQ$ is cyclic by PoP. Next, harmonic bundles imply that $AD$ bisects $QDI$. Then, $AQ=AI$. Then, $\angle QAI=\angle IDI_a=2\angle QDB=2\angle QPB$. Hence, $A$ is the center of $(QPI)$. So, we are done.
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Alternative synthetic proof of $AQ = AI$:
As said above, by $POP$ we have $AIDQ$ cyclic and want to show $\angle IDA = \angle ADQ$.
Note that $\angle ADQ = \angle I_ADC$.
Now consider the homothety centered at $A$ which sends the incircle to the A-excircle. This sends $BC$ to a parallel line $B'C'$, also tangent to the excircle and $D \rightarrow D'$ on that line. Because the excircle is tangent to $BC$ and the new parallel line, $I_A$ mus lie on the perpendicular bisector of $DD'$. Thus we have:
\[ \angle I_ADD' = \angle I_AD'D \implies \angle I_ADC = \angle I_AD'C' \]However we have $\angle I_AD'C' = \angle IDC$ because of the homothety. This now implies:
\[ \angle I_ADC = \angle IDC \implies \angle IDA = \angle ADQ \]
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Lemma: $AQ=AI$
Proof: We first claim that $QAID$ is cyclic. This follows because $AIBI_C$ is cyclic by Fact 5, and radical axis theorem on $(AIBI_C), (BDI_C)$ from point $I_A$ finishes.

Now, we claim that $AD$ bisects $QDI$, which would suffice by Fact 5. By Appolonian circles, it suffices to show $(DQ\cap CI, I; DA\cap CI, C)=-1$. Yet projecting through $D$ onto $AI$, we see that this follows from $(I_A, I; A, AD\cap CI)=-1$ which is well-known (or follows from $IBI_A$ right and $BI$ bisecting $\angle ABC$).

Now, note that we wish to show $\angle AIP=\angle IPA$, yet the left hand side is clearly $\angle AI_CB$ by Fact 5. Now, consider forced overlaid inversion at $A$. If $D'$ is the antipode of $A$ in $(ABC)$, and $(I_BCD')\cap (ACI_A)$ is $P'$. Now forced overlaid inversion at $C$. We note that the perpendicular at $C$ to $BC$ intersects $AB$ at $D''$, and $D''I_A\cap BI_B=P''$, it remains to show $BC$ is the bisector of $\angle P''CI_A$. However, as $\angle BCD''$ is right, by Appolonian circles, it suffices to show that $(D'', BC\cap I_AD''; P'', I_A)=-1$. Yet
\[(D'', BC\cap I_AD''; P'', I_A)\overset{B}{=}(A, C; BI\cap AC, BI_A\cap AC)=-1\]from right angles and bisector.

Thus, we have $AP=AI=AQ$, as desired.
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Claim: $AP = AI$ (The tricky part)
Proof: Let $BB'$ be a diameter of the circumcircle of $\triangle BDI_C$. Notice $BPB'I_C$ is a rectangle. Let $AI$ meet $B'P$ at $I'$. Then $AB'I'I_C$ is cyclic with diameter $I'I_C$. Also, since $\angle B'DB = 90^\circ = \angle ADB$, the points $B'$, $A$, and $D$ are collinear. As $AI_C \perp II'$ and
\[
\angle AI'I_C = \angle AB'I_C = \angle DB'I_C = 180^\circ - \angle CBI_C = \angle ABI_C = \angle AII_C,
\]it follows that $AI = AI'$. Since $\angle IPI' = 90^\circ$, the claim follows.
Claim: $AQ = AI$ (The projective part)
Proof: Let $AI$ meet $BC$ at $K$. As $\angle IBI_A = 90^\circ$ and $\angle ABI = \angle IBK$, it follows that $(AK; II_A)$ is harmonic. But as $\angle ADK = 90^\circ$, we must have $\angle IDK = \angle KDI_A$, or equivalently $\angle IDA = \angle ADQ$. Since $AIBI_C$ is cyclic,
\[
I_AA \cdot I_AI = I_AI_C \cdot I_AB = I_AQ \cdot I_AD,
\]thus $AIDQ$ is cyclic. Since $\angle IDA = \angle ADQ$, we have that $A$ is the midpoint of arc $\widehat{IQ}$, finishing the claim.
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We will show that $AP = AI = AQ$. The proof will be split into two parts.
Part 1: $AQ = AI$.
[asy]
size(13cm);
import geometry;

draw(unitcircle, blue+white);

pair A = dir(130);
pair B = dir(210);
pair C = dir(330);
draw(A -- B -- C -- cycle);
pair I = incenter(A,B,C);
pair I_A = intersectionpoint(line(A,I),perpendicular(B,line(B,I)));
pair I_C = intersectionpoint(line(C,I),line(B,I_A));
pair D = intersectionpoint(line(B,C),perpendicular(A,line(B,C)));

transform reflect = reflect(perpendicular(circumcenter(I_C,B,D),line(I_A,D)));
pair Q = reflect * D;



dot("$A$", A, dir(A));
dot("$B$", B, dir(B));
dot("$C$", C, dir(C));
dot("$I_A$", I_A, dir(I_A));
dot("$I_C$", I_C, dir(I_C));
dot("$D$", D, S);
dot("$I$", I, dir(I));
dot("$Q$", Q, dir(Q));

draw(circumcircle(I_C,B,D), red);
draw(A -- I_A -- I_C -- C);
draw(I_A -- Q);
draw(circumcircle(A,I,D), red);
draw(I -- D -- A);

markangle(I,D,A, grey);
markangle(A,D,Q, grey);
[/asy]
By PoP, we have $I_AD \cdot I_AQ = I_AB \cdot I_AI_C = I_AI \cdot I_AA$ so $Q$, $A$, $I$ and $D$ are cyclic. On the other hand, we have $-1 = (A, AI \cap BC; I, I_A)$ so $DC$ bisects the angle $\angle I_ADI$. Thus $DA$ bisects the angle $\angle IDQ$, so $AI = AQ$.

Part 2: $AP = AI$.
Let $I_B$ be the $B$-excenter. Let $K$ be the reflection of $I$ across $A$, and redefine $P$ to be the foot from $K$ to $BI_B$. Since $AI = AK$, we have $AI = AP$, so it suffices to show that $I_CPDB$ is cyclic
[asy]size(13cm);
import geometry;



pair A = dir(130);
pair B = dir(210);
pair C = dir(330);

pair I = incenter(A,B,C);
pair I_A = intersectionpoint(line(A,I),perpendicular(B,line(B,I)));
pair I_C = intersectionpoint(line(C,I),line(B,I_A));
pair D = intersectionpoint(line(B,C),perpendicular(A,line(B,C)));
pair I_B = intersectionpoint(line(I_C,A),line(I_A,C));
pair K = reflect(line(I_C,A)) * I;
pair P = intersectionpoint(line(B,I),perpendicular(K,line(B,I)));

filldraw(I_C -- I_B -- P -- cycle, orange+white+white+white);
filldraw(I_C -- C -- D -- cycle, orange+white+white+white);


draw(unitcircle, blue+white);


dot("$A$", A, dir(A));
dot("$B$", B, dir(B));
dot("$C$", C, dir(C));
dot("$I_A$", I_A, dir(I_A));
dot("$I_C$", I_C, dir(I_C));
dot("$D$", D, S);
dot("$I$", I, dir(I));
dot("$I_B$", I_B, dir(I_B));
dot("$K$", K, dir(K));
dot("$P$", P, dir(P));

draw(A -- B -- C -- cycle);
draw(K -- I_A -- I_C -- C);
draw(D -- A);
draw(circumcircle(I_A,I_B,I_C), blue);
draw(I_C -- I_B -- I_A);
draw(B -- I_B);
draw(A -- P -- K);
draw(I_B -- K);
markrightangle(K,P,I);
draw(circumcircle(I_C,B,D), red+dashed);


[/asy]
By a quick angle chase, we see that $\triangle KPI_B \sim ADC$, so $$\frac{PI_B}{DC} = \frac{KI_B}{AC} = \frac{I_CI_B}{I_CC}$$Combining this with the fact that $\angle I_CI_BP = \angle I_CCD$, we see that $\triangle I_CI_BP \sim \triangle I_CCD$. Thus, $\angle I_CDB = \angle IPB$ so the conclusion follows.
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ezpotd
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We first show $AQ = AI$.
Since $BI_C, DQ, AI$ concur at $I_A$, and $(DQBI_C), (BI_CAI)$ are cyclic, we can conclude $(DQAI)$ is cyclic by radical axis. Then $AQ = DI\frac{AI_A}{DI_A}$ by $\triangle I_ADI \sim \triangle I_AAQ$. Letting $EI_A$ be the reflection of $DI_A$ over the perpendicular from $I_A$ to $AD$, it suffices to prove $EI_A \parallel DI$, as this will give $\triangle EI_AA \sim \triangle DIA$ and then $\frac{DI}{DI_A} = \frac{DI}{EI_A} = \frac{AI}{AI_A}$, as desired. Since $\angle AEI_A = \angle EDI_A$, it suffices to prove $\angle EDI_A = \angle ADI$, or equivalently $\angle IDC = \angle I_ADC$, but this is obvious from the angle bisector and right angle harmonic lemma.

To show $AP = AI$, we show that $P$ is the reflection of $I$ over the Iran point that is the intersection of the $A$ midline and $BI$. We can identify this Iran point in barycentrics as $(\frac 12,  \frac{a - c}{2a}, \frac{c}{2a})$. The incenter is given as $(\frac{a}{a + b + c}, \frac{b}{a + b + c}, \frac{c}{a + b+  c})$. The desired reflection is then given as $(\frac{b + c}{a + b + c}, \frac{a^2 - bc- c^2}{(a(a + b+ c)} , \frac{bc + c^2}{a(a + b + c)})$, or $(b + c : \frac{a^2 - bc - c^2}{a} : \frac{bc + c^2}{a})$. Next, we compute the coefficients of the circle $(BDI_C)$, clearly $v = 0$. Then plugging in the coordinates of $I_c$ gives $-a^2bc -b^2ac + c^2ab = (b + a - c)(ua - vc)$, or $-abc = ua - wc$. Plugging in the coordinates of $D$ (which are $(0:S_{AC}:S_{AB})$) gives $a^2S_AS_AS_BS_C = (a^2S_A)(wS_AS_B)$, or $w = S_C$. Going back, $u = \frac{cS_C - abc}{a}$.

Plugging in the coordinates of the reflection into the circle, we desire to prove $(a^2 - bc - c^2)(bc + c^2) + b^2(b +c)\frac{c(b + c)}{a} + c^2 (b + c)(\frac{a^2 -bc - c^2}{a}) = (a + b + c)(\frac{cS_C -abc}{a}(b + c) + cS_C \frac{(b + c)}{a})$. Combining terms and dividing by $c\frac{b + c}{a}$, we desire $(a^2 -bc-c^2)a + b^2(b + c) + c(a^2 - bc -c^2) = (a + b + c)(a^2 + b^2 - c^2 - ab)$. The left side can be expanded as $a^3 - abc - ac^2 + b^3 + b^2c + a^2c -bc^2 - c^3$. The right side can be expanded as $a^3 + ab^2 - ac^2 -a^2b + a^2b + b^3 -bc^2 - ab^2 + a^2c +b^2c -c^3 -abc = a^3 -abc - ac^2 + b^3 + b^2c + a^2c -bc^2 - c^3$, so we are done.
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Another way to get AP=AI after you have AQ=AI is to notice A is meant to be the center of (PQI)
So our goal is equivalent to $<QAI=2<QPI$

But this is just by angle chasing as
$<QPI=<QPB=<QDB=<CDI_A$
$=(1/2)  <IDI_A$, which is from the fact $CD$ is the internal angle bisector of $<IDI_A$ (from the projective stuff in the first part of the other solutions)
$=(1/2)  <QAI$ as $QAID$ cyclic
Which is as desired.
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Synthetic:
Claim 1. AP = AI
Redefine P as the point on BI satisfying AP = AI. Let Q, R, J be the orthogonal projection from P to AB, BC, I to AD. (Ic) touches BC at G, (I) touches BC at T.
With a simple angle chase: <PAR = <AIJ. Then, PA = AI, <ARP = <IJA = 90. Thus, triangles APR and IAJ are congruent, so AR = IJ = DT
Now, BQ = BR = BA - AR = BA - DT = BA - BT + BD = BA - (AB + BC - CA)/2 + BD = (AB - BC + CA)/2 + BD = BG + BD = DG.
Let S be the midpoint of PIc. It is well known that triangle QSG is isoceles at S. Thus by symmetry one can point out that SD = SB = IcP/2, thus IcDP = 90.
Then, P lies on (IBD), and we are done.
Claim 2. AQ = AI
Let AI intersect BC at L. Note that BIAIc is cyclic, so by power of a point: ID.IQ = IaB.IaIc = IaI.IaA. Thus quadrilateral QAID is cyclic.
Note that: LI/LIa = AI/AIa, but <ADL = 90 so we can conclude that DA is external bisector of <IDIa, thus DA is internal bisector of <IDIc
Then, A is midpoint of minor arc IQ in (AQDI). Thus AQ = AI and we are done.
From the above claim, we now have that AP = AI = AQ, so AP = AQ, as desired.
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Denote the circumcircle of $BDI_C$ by $w$. Let $X$ be the second intersection point of $AD$ and $w$. Then $BI_CXP$ forms a rectangle.
As $A$ is a given point inside this rectangle, we can determine its angles relative to $X$, $I_C$, $B$; however, we don't know yet the exact values of $\angle APX$ and $\angle APB$.

One way to find these angles is by applying Ceva's trigonometric theorem.

However, we prefer a different approach: $A$ has the isogonal conjugate w.r.t. $BI_CXP$. This follows from the fact that the projections of $A$ onto $BP$, $PX$, $I_CX$, $BI_C$ lie on a circle (since $\angle AXP = \angle ABP$). From this, we get $\angle I_CAB+\angle XAP = 180^{\circ}$ and $\angle XAP = 90^{\circ} + \frac{\angle A}{2}$. Thus, $\angle XPA = \frac{\angle C}{2}$ which shows that $\triangle AIP$ -- isosceles (namely, $AI=AP$).

$AI=AQ$ part can be done in the same way as above solution ($AIDQ$ is cyclic and $DA$ is the bisector of $\angle QDI$).

Combining both, we obtain $AI=AQ=AP$.
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Solved with ohiorizzler1434 in 13 minutes.

We construct $I_b$ as the $B$-excentre of $\triangle ABC$. I claim that $AQ=AI=AP$.

Step 1: $AQ=AI$.
First notice by PoP spamming that $AI_a\cdot II_a=BI_a\cdot I_cI_a=QI_a\cdot DI_a$, thus $AIDQ$ cyclic. But then notice that if $T=\overline{AI}\cap\overline{BC}$, then $(AT;II_a)=-1$, so $(\overline{DA},\overline{DT};\overline{DI},\overline{DI_a})=-1$. But then as $\overline{AD}\perp\overline{DT}$, $\overline{DT}=\overline{BDC}$ is the angle bisector of $\angle IDI_a$, therefore $\overline{AD}$ is the bisector of $\angle QDI$. Since $ADQI$ cyclic this forces $AQ=AI$.

Step 2: $A$ is the circumcentre of $\triangle QPI$
This time, recall that $QPDBI_c$ is cyclic. Therefore:
\begin{align*}
2\measuredangle QPI&=2\measuredangle QPB\\
&=2\measuredangle QDB\\
&=2\measuredangle I_aDT\\
&=\measuredangle I_aDI\\
&=\measuredangle QDI\\
&=\measuredangle QAI
\end{align*}where the second last line follows from $ADQI$ cyclic. Therefore by the inscribed angle theorem $A$ circumcentre of $QPI$. This finishes everything.
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