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Concyclic incentres and excentres
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Let $ABCD$ be a convex quadrilateral and let the diagonals $AC$ and $BD$ intersect at $O$. Let $I_1, I_2, I_3, I_4$ be respectively the incentres of triangles $AOB, BOC, COD, DOA$. Let $J_1, J_2, J_3, J_4$ be respectively the excentres of triangles $AOB, BOC, COD, DOA$ opposite $O$. Show that $I_1, I_2, I_3, I_4$ lie on a circle if and only if $J_1, J_2, J_3, J_4$ lie on a circle.
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Source: 2023 USA TSTST Problem 1
Let $ABC$ be a triangle with centroid $G$. Points $R$ and $S$ are chosen on rays $GB$ and $GC$, respectively, such that
\[ \angle ABS=\angle ACR=180^\circ-\angle BGC.\]Prove that $\angle RAS+\angle BAC=\angle BGC$.

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Areas of triangles AOH, BOH, COH
Arne   70
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Source: APMO 2004, Problem 2
Let $O$ be the circumcenter and $H$ the orthocenter of an acute triangle $ABC$. Prove that the area of one of the triangles $AOH$, $BOH$ and $COH$ is equal to the sum of the areas of the other two.
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Areas of triangles AOH, BOH, COH
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Apply Cartesian coordinates with $OH$ as the real axis. The vectors $\overrightarrow{OA}$, $\overrightarrow{OB},$ and $\overrightarrow{OC}$ sum to $\overrightarrow{OH}$, so the y-coordinates of $A,B,C$ sum to 0. Thus, the absolute value of one of them is the sum of the absolute values of the other two, hence done since all three triangles have $OH$ as the base and some height away from the line.
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shendrew7
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Without loss of generality, we assume $A$ lies on the opposite side of the Euler line, shown in blue, as $B$ and $C$. (Note it is impossible for $A$, $B$, and $C$ to all be on the same side as the centroid is always inside the triangle.) We claim \[[AOH] = [BOH] + [COH].\]
Let the projections of $A$, $B$, and $C$ onto the Euler line be $A_1$, $B_1$, and $C_1$, respectively. The problem reduces to proving \[AA_1 = BB_1 + CC_1.\]
Denote $M$ as the midpoint of $BC$ and $M_1$ as the projection of $M$ onto the Euler line. As $MM_1$ is the midline in trapezoid $BB_1C_1C$, we have \[MM_1 = \frac{BB_1 + CC_1}{2}.\]
Similar triangles $\triangle AA_1G$ and $\triangle MM_1G$, where $G$ is the centroid and on the Euler line, give \[AA_1 = \frac{AG}{GM} \cdot MM_1 = 2MM_1 = BB_1 + CC_1. \text{ } \blacksquare\]
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size(250);

pair A, B, C, H, A1, B1, C1, M, G, M1;
A = dir(131);
B = dir(200);
C = dir(340);
H = orthocenter(A, B, C);
A1 = foot(A, H, 0);
B1 = foot(B, H, 0);
C1 = foot(C, H, 0);
M = .5B + .5C;
G = centroid(A, B, C);
M1 = foot(M, B1, C1);

markscalefactor=.005;
fill(A--A1--G--cycle, mediumgreen);
fill(G--M1--M--cycle, mediumgreen);
draw(rightanglemark(G, A1, A));
draw(rightanglemark(B, B1, A1));
draw(rightanglemark(G, M1, M));
draw(rightanglemark(M1, C1, C));

draw(A--B--C--cycle);
draw(B--B1);
draw(C--C1);
draw(M1--M--A--A1);
draw(B1--C1, blue);

label("$A$", A, N);
label("$B$", B, SW);
label("$C$", C, SE);
label("$A_1$", A1, SE);
label("$B_1$", B1, NW);
label("$C_1$", C1, NE);
label("$M$", M, S);
label("$G$", G, NE);
label("$M_1$", M1, N);

dot(A);
dot(B);
dot(C);
dot(A1);
dot(B1);
dot(C1);
dot(M);
dot(G);
dot(M1);
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Shreyasharma
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Without loss of generality assume $[AOH] = [BOH] + [COH]$. Now proceed with complex numbers. Then the area of $[AHO]$ is given by,
\begin{align*}
\frac{i}{4}\begin{vmatrix}a&\frac{1}{a}&1\\ a+b+c&\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}&1\\ 0&0&1\end{vmatrix} = \frac{i}{4abc}\left [(a^2 - bc)(b+c)\right ]
\end{align*}Similarly we can calculate the areas of $[BOH]$ and $[COH]$ and adding gives the conclusion.
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m.ljf2997
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I will use complex numbers to solve
lets o=0 and h is reel number
X,Y,Z is the foot altitude from A,B,C to OT respectively ,where t=1
WLOG AX>=BY>=CZ
h=a+b+c=a'+b'+c' and
x=(a+a')/2 and y=(b+b')/2 and z=(c+c')/2
AX=│a-a'│/2 BY=│b-b'│/2 CY=│c-c'│/2
because a+b+c-a'-b'-c-=0 so
AX=BY+CZ
==> [AHO]=[BOH]+[COH] .
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WLOG let $A$ be on the opposite side of $HO$ as $B$, and $C$. We claim that $[AOH]=[BOH]+[COH]$ Let $G$ be the centroid of $\triangle ABC$ Note that $G$ lies on $HO$ since $HO$ is the Euler line of $\triangle ABC$. Let $H_{A}$, $H_{B}$, and $H_{C}$ be the projections of $A$, $B$, and $C$ respectively onto $HO$. It suffices to show $BH_{B}+CH_{C}=AH_{A}$. Let $M$ be the midpoint of $BC$ and $H_{M}$ be its projection onto $OH$. Note that $MH_{M}$ is the midline of trapezoid $BH_{B}H_{C}C$. By centroid $2:1$ ratios we have $\tfrac{BH_{B}+ CH_{C}}{2}= MH_M=\tfrac{AH_A}{2}$ So $BH_{B}+CH_{C}=AH_{A}$, as desired.
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Ianis
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My proof of the equality given in #2

My solution
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Let $D$, $E$, and $F$ be the foots of the perpendiculars from $A$, $B$, and $C$ to $OH$, respectively. WLOG, let $A$ and $B$ lie on the same side of $OH$ and $C$ lie on the other. Then, we want to prove that $AD+BE=CF$. Since the centroid lies on $OH$, this must be true by coordinates.
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WLOG $[AOH] = [BOH] + [COH]$.
By Euler Line, the centroid $G$ lies on $OH$.
Let the projections of $A$, $B$, and $C$ onto the Euler Line be $D$, $E$, and $F$ respectively. Then it is equivalent to show that $AD = BE + CF$.
Define the midpoint of $BC$ to be $M$, and the projection of $M$ onto $OH$ being $N$.
Then notice that $AD = BE + CF = 2MN$. This follows easily from noticing that $\triangle ADG \sim MNG$(by homothety) with a $2:1$ ratio, which finishes.
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Use standard notation. WLOG $\angle A \ge \angle B \ge \angle C, R = 1$.
From standard trigonometry formulae, $$[AOH] = \frac12 (2R \cos A) (R) (\sin(|B-C|)) = \cos A \sin( B-C).$$Similarly, $$[BOH] = \cos B \sin(A-C), [COH] = \cos C \sin (A-B).$$But now simply from expanding, $[AOH] + [COH] = [BOH]$. $\square$
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darij grinberg wrote:
vinoth_90_2004 wrote:
maybe this question can be generalized to isogonal conjugates?
(i.e. if P and Q are isogonal conjugates in triangle ABC, then the area of one of APQ, BPQ and CPQ is the sum of the other two.)

Not really; actually, if P and Q are two arbitrary points in the plane, then the area of one of the triangles APQ, BPQ and CPQ equals the sum of the areas of the other two if and only if the line PQ passes through the centroid of triangle ABC. But, of course, not for any two isogonal conjugates P and Q, the line PQ passes through the centroid.

Darij

also if $PQ$ passes through the symmetric of one vertex in the midpoint of opposed side
(this case occurs when the three areas (as signed areas) have the same sign whereas the other case occurs when one of the area has opposed sign of the others).
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Consider the Euler line, and WLOG suppose $A$ is the farthest from it. It suffices to show that the distance from $A$ to the Euler line is equal to the sums of the distance from $B$ and $C$ to the Euler line. Let $G$ be the centroid of $\triangle ABC$ and let $M$ be the midpoint of $\overline{BC}$.

Denote $A'$, $B'$, $C'$, and $M'$ as the projections of $A$, $B$, $C$, and $M$ to the Euler line, respectively. Note that $AA' = 2 \cdot MM'$ because $\triangle AA'G \sim MM'G$ with a $2:1$ ratio. Moreover, $MM'$ is the midline of trapezoid $BB'C'C$, so $AA' = 2 \cdot MM' = BB'+CC'$, as desired. $\blacksquare$
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Using signed areas, $[AOH]+[BOH]+[COH]=3[GOH]=0$.
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Note that if we ignore the signs of areas:
$$[AOH]=\frac {AO.AH.sin(B-C)}{2}=R^2cos(A).sin(B-C)$$$$[BOH]=\frac{BO.BH.sin(C-A)}{2}=R^2cos(B)sin(C-A)$$$$[COH]=\frac{CO.CH.sin(A-B)}{2}=R^2cos(C)sin(A-B)$$Then, $[AOH]+[BOH]+[COH]$=$R^2.\sum_{cyc}cos(A)sin(B-C)=R^2.\sum_{cyc}(cos(A)sin(B)cos(C)-cos(A)sin(C)cos(B))=0$
And we are done.
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So basically, prove that out of the three distances from $A,B,C$ to the Euler line, the largest one is the sum of the other two. But their average, $G$ is on the Euler line, so this is clear.
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W.L.O.G let $B$ and $C$ lie on the same side of $OH$. Let $X, Y, Z$ be the foot to $OH$ from $A, B, C$ respectively. We would like to show that $AX = YB + ZC$.

Let $M$ be the midpoint of $BC$ and let $M'$ be the foot from $M$ to $YZ$. By the Thales' Theorem, $MM' = \frac{YB + ZC}{2}$
It's well known that $OH$ is the Euler-line so it contains the centroid $G$ of $\triangle ABC$. Now notice that $\triangle AXG \sim MM'G$.

Because $AG = 2GM$, we obtain $AX = 2MM' = YB + ZC$ and we're done, as $[BOH] + [COH] = \frac{OH \cdot YB}{2} + \frac{OH \cdot ZC}{2} =
 \frac{OH(YB + ZC)}{2} = \frac{OH \cdot AX}{2} = [AOH]$. $\square$
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