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Let $a > 1$ be any positive integer. You are given these two quantities:
$$\frac{a}{1} \text{ and } \frac{1}{a}$$You are allowed to apply any of these four operations:
[list]
[*] You can add or subtract any positive integer onto/from the numerators of both the quantities (simultaneously)
[*] You can add or subtract any positive integer onto/from the denominators of both the quantities (simultaneously)
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$\textit{Proposed by EpicNumberTheory}$
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Let $a > 1$ be any positive integer. You are given these two quantities:
$$\frac{a}{1} \text{ and } \frac{1}{a}$$You are allowed to apply any of these four operations:
  • You can add or subtract any positive integer onto/from the numerators of both the quantities (simultaneously)
  • You can add or subtract any positive integer onto/from the denominators of both the quantities (simultaneously)
  • You can reduce any quantity to it's lowest form (You need not reduce both quantities simultaneously)
  • You can interchange the position of the two quantites
Note that the numerator is always non-negative and the denominator positive at any point. Determine whether it is possible to attain the following configuration:
$$\frac{b}{1} \text{ and } \frac{1}{b}$$from the current one by a finite (possibly empty) sequence of such operations.

$\textit{Proposed by EpicNumberTheory}$
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And the award for the most absurd solution goes to me!!!

I'll show that from every pair $\frac{b}{1}$ and $\frac{1}{b}$ you can attain $\frac{a}{1}$ and $\frac{1}{a}$ for every $a$ as follows:
Let the operations be $(1)$, $(2)$ and $(3)$ in order of written in the problem paper(4 is almost not neccesary, that's why I've ignored it).

Case 1: If $b>2a^2-3a+1$ you proceed as follows:
$$\frac{b}{1}; \frac{1}{b} \longrightarrow^{(1)} \frac{2b-1}{1} ;\frac{b}{b}\longrightarrow^{(3)}\frac{2b-1}{1}; \frac{1}{1} \longrightarrow^{(1)}\frac{2b}{1}; \frac{2}{1}\longrightarrow^{(2)} \frac{2b}{2}; \frac{2}{2}\longrightarrow^{(3)}\frac{b}{1}; \frac{1}{1}\Leftrightarrow $$$$\frac{1}{1}; \frac{b}{1} \longrightarrow^{(1)} \frac{(a-1)(b-2a^2+3a-1)}{1} ;\frac{b+(a-1)(b-2a^2+3a-1)-1}{1}\longrightarrow^{(2)}$$$$\frac{(a-1)(b-2a^2+3a-1)}{b-2a^2+3a-1}; \frac{b+(a-1)(b-2a^2+3a-1)-1}{b-2a^2+3a-1}\longrightarrow^{(3)} \frac{a-1}{1} ;\frac{b+(a-1)(b-2a^2+3a-1)-1}{b-2a^2+3a-1} $$$$\longrightarrow^{(2)} \frac{a-1}{a-1} ;\frac{b+(a-1)(b-2a^2+3a-1)-1}{b-2a^2+4a-3}\longrightarrow^{(3)} \frac{1}{1} ;\frac{ab-2a^3+5a^2-4a}{b-2a^2+4a-3}$$$$\longrightarrow^{(2)} \frac{1}{a} ;\frac{ab-2a^3+5a^2-4a}{b-2a^2+5a-4}\longrightarrow^{(3)} \frac{1}{a} ;\frac{a}{1}$$Note that on the 3rd last operation $ab-2a^3+5a^2-4a=b+(a-1)(b-2a^2+3a-1)-1$, so we have shown that there is a solution in this case. Also when $a=2$ some of the steps may be skipped or just are nonexistent, but that does not affect the solution.

Case 2: If $b<2a^2-a+1$ you proceed as follows:
$$\frac{b}{1}; \frac{1}{b} \longrightarrow^{(1)} \frac{2b-1}{1} ;\frac{b}{b}\longrightarrow^{(3)}\frac{2b-1}{1}; \frac{1}{1} \longrightarrow^{(1)}\frac{2b}{1}; \frac{2}{1}\longrightarrow^{(2)} \frac{2b}{2}; \frac{2}{2}\longrightarrow^{(3)}\frac{b}{1}; \frac{1}{1}\Leftrightarrow $$$$\frac{1}{1}; \frac{b}{1} \longrightarrow^{(1)} \frac{(a+1)(2a^2-a+1-b)}{1} ;\frac{b+(a+1)(2a^2-a+1-b)-1}{1}\longrightarrow^{(2)}$$$$\frac{(a+1)(2a^2-a+1-b)}{2a^2-a+1-b}; \frac{b+(a+1)(2a^2-a+1-b)-1}{2a^2-a+1-b}\longrightarrow^{(3)} \frac{a+1}{1} ;\frac{b+(a+1)(2a^2-a+1-b)-1}{2a^2-a+1-b} $$$$\longrightarrow^{(2)} \frac{a+1}{a+1} ;\frac{b+(a+1)(2a^2+1-b)-1}{2a^2+1-b}\longrightarrow^{(3)} \frac{1}{1} ;\frac{2a^3+a^2-ab}{2a^2-b+1}$$$$\longrightarrow^{(2)} \frac{1}{a} ;\frac{2a^3+a^2-ab}{2a^2+a-b}\longrightarrow^{(3)} \frac{1}{a} ;\frac{a}{1}$$Note that on the 3rd last operation $b+(a+1)(2a^2-a+1-b)-1=2a^3+a^2-ab$, so we have shown that there is a solution in this case.

At last whatever $a$ and $b$ are, at least one of $b>2a^2-3a+1$ and $b<2a^2-a+1$ is true, so we can indeed obtain every configuration from every other one.
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My solution: interchange $a,b$.

$(\frac b1, \frac 1b) \rightarrow (\frac{b+(b-2)}{1+(b-2)} , \frac{1+(b-2)}{b+(b-2)}) = (\frac 21, \frac 12)$.

We pick suitable $m,n$ such that

$\frac 21, \frac 12 \rightarrow (\frac mn, \frac{m-1}{n+1}) \rightarrow (\frac{m/2}{n/2}, \frac{m-1}{n+1}) \rightarrow (\frac{m/2+(4a-5)}{n/2+1}, \frac{m+(4a-6)}{n+2}) \rightarrow (\frac{m/2+(4a-5)}{n/2+1},\frac{m/2+(2a-3)}{n/2+1})$.

Now, let $x=\frac m2 + 2a - 3, y = \frac n2 + 1$.

$(\frac{x+2a-2}{y}, \frac xy) \rightarrow (\frac{x+2a-2}{y}, \frac{x/2}{y/2}) \rightarrow (\frac{x+2a-2}{y+2a-2}, \frac{x/2}{y/2+2a-2}) \rightarrow (\frac{x/2+a-1}{y/2+a-1}, \frac{x/2}{y/2+2a-2}) \rightarrow (\frac a1, \frac 1a)$.
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This problem is mine! :)
I will post my solution after some time
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Let $n,+x$ denote addition onto the numerators of both quantities, let $d,+x$ denote addition onto the denominators of both quantities, denote $r,r$ as reduction of right quantity to its lowest form and $r,l$ as reduction of left quantity to its lowest form.

As $a,b>1$, following operations are valid. For clarity, $a$ is the same as $\dfrac{a}{1}$.
\begin{align*}
a,\frac{1}{a}  \overset{n,+(a-1)}{\implies} 2a-1,\frac{a}{a}\overset{r,r}{\implies}2a-1,1 \overset{d,+(2a-2)}{\implies} \frac{2a-1}{2a-1},\frac{1}{2a-1} \overset{r,l}{\implies}1,\frac{1}{2a-1}\\ \overset{n,+1}{\implies}2,\frac{2}{2a-1}\overset{d,+1}{\implies}\frac{2}{2},\frac{2}{2a}\overset{r,l}{\implies}1,\frac{2}{2a}\overset{r,r}{\implies}1,\frac{1}{a} 
\end{align*}Furthermore we reduce our two quantites to\begin{align*}
1,\frac{1}{a} \overset{d,+(a-1)}{\implies}\frac{1}{a},\frac{1}{2a-1} \overset{n,+(2a-2)}{\implies}\frac{2a-1}{a},\frac{2a-1}{2a-1}\overset{r,r}{\implies}\frac{2a-1}{a},1\overset{n,+1}{\implies}\frac{2a}{a},2\overset{r,l}{\implies}2,2\overset{d,+1}{\implies}1,1
\end{align*}Now, we show that we can do this sequence backwards, i.e. we get from $1,1$ to any $b,\dfrac{1}{b}$.

\begin{align*}
1,1 \overset{d,+(b(b+1)-1)}{\implies} \frac{1}{b(b+1)},\frac{1}{b(b+1)} \overset{n,+(b^2(b+1)-1)}{\implies} \frac{b^2(b+1)}{b(b+1)},\frac{b^2(b+1)}{b(b+1)} \overset{r,l}{\implies} b,\frac{b^2(b+1)}{b(b+1)}\\
\overset{n,+b(b^3+b^2-b-2)}{\implies} b(b^3+b^2-b-1),\frac{b^2(b+1)+b(b^3+b^2-b-2)}{b(b+1)}\\
\overset{n,+b}{\implies} b^2(b^2+b-1),\frac{b^2(b+1)+b(b^3+b^2-b-1)}{b(b+1)}=b^2+b-1\\
\overset{d,+b(b^2+b-1)-1}{\implies} \frac{b^2}{b((b^2+b-1))}, \frac{b^2+b-1}{b(b^2+b-1)}\overset{r,l}{\implies} b,\frac{b^2+b-1}{b(b^2+b-1)} \overset{r,r}{\implies} b,\frac{1}{b} 
\end{align*}Obviously, number of such operations is finite, thus we are done.

Remark. Oops, I just realized that $1,1$ is not legal thing to operate with, thus this slight error can be easily fixed by the following step: $2,2\overset{d,+2b(b+1)-1}{\implies} \frac{2}{2b(b+1)},\frac{2}{2b(b+1)}\overset{r,l}{\implies} \frac{1}{b(b+1)},\frac{2}{2b(b+1)}\overset{r,r}{\implies}\frac{1}{b(b+1)},\frac{1}{b(b+1)}$
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Here's my solution

The answer is yes, it is possible. Just use the following algorithm where $k = b^2 - 2, y = a-b^2, x=ab-b-1$

$\frac{a}{1}, \frac{1}{a}$

adding $ka-1$ to the numerator, we get $\frac{a(k+1)-1}{1}, \frac{ak}{a}$

Reducing the second fraction to lowest form, we get $\frac{a(k+1)-1}{1}, \frac{k}{1}$

Adding $1$ to the numerators, we get $\frac{a(k+1)}{1}, \frac{k+1}{1}$

Adding $x$ to the denominators, we get $\frac{a(k+1)}{x+1}, \frac{k+1}{x+1}$

Adding $y$ to the numerators, we get $\frac{a(k+1)+y}{x+1}, \frac{k+1+y}{x+1}$

Observe that the first fraction is just

$\frac{a(k+1)+y}{x+1} = \frac{a(b^2-2+1)+a-b^2}{ab-b-1+1}$

which is $\frac{b^2(a-1)}{b(a-1)} = \frac{b}{1}$

And the second fraction is just $\frac{k+1+y}{x+1} = \frac{b^2-1+a-b^2}{ab-b-1+1}$

which is $\frac{a-1}{b(a-1)} = \frac{1}{b}$

Therefore, reducing both fractions obtained in the last step to their lowest terms, we get that it is equal to $\frac{b}{1}, \frac{1}{b}$. Also, note that since $a,b>1$, dividing by $a-1$ is allowed

Now, I'll show that the numerators and denominators are always positive. Since $k = b^2 - 2 \ge 2^2 - 2 = 2$, $k$ is positive, and so $ak, a(k+1)$ are positive. Also, $x = ab - b - 1 = a(b-1) - 1$, which is positive since $a,b>1$, so adding $x$ to the denominators doesnt change the positiveness.

Finally, observe that $k+1+y = a-1$ and $a(k+1)+y = b^2(a-1)$, which are obviously positive.

Therefore, this algorithm works.
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My solution:
We would use the $+$ sign between the fractions instead of $,$ but it won't matter.
The Answer to the problem is a very positive $\boxed{\text{ YES }}$.

Claim 1: Let $d(n)$ be any divisor of $n$. Then you can obtain $\frac{d(n-1)+1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ from $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$.
Proof: $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{n+k}{1+k} + \frac{k}{k} \rightarrow \frac{n+k}{1+k} + \frac{1}{1}$. Now if $k+1 \mid n+k$ then $k+1 \mid n-1$. Choose such a $k$. Then $\frac{n+k}{1+k}+\frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{d(n-1)+1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ where $d(n-1)$ is some divisor of $n-1$. But since we can choose $k+1$ to be any divisor of $n-1$, $d(n-1)$ can take all the divisor values of $n-1$. Hence proven. $\square$


Claim 2: $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{n'}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ for some $n' < n$.
Proof: We would show this by strong induction. Now for the base case we would show that this is true for $3$:
$\frac{3}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{4}{1} + \frac{2}{1} \rightarrow \frac{4}{2} + \frac{2}{2} \rightarrow \frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$. Hence shown.
Now there always exists a divisor $d(n-1)$ of $n-1$ such that $d(n-1)<n-1$ if $n-1>2$. So by Claim 1 this Claim is shown as well. $\square$.

So if one obtains $\frac{l}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ then one can obtain $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$

Claim 3: You can reach $\frac{n}{1}+\frac{1}{1}$ from $\frac{2}{1}+\frac{1}{1}$ for any $n > 1$

Proof: $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{2} \rightarrow \frac{4}{1} + \frac{3}{2} \rightarrow \frac{4}{2} + \frac{3}{3} \rightarrow \frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$
Now we would be proving that for any $n>1$: $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ can be obtained from $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$.
$\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{k+1}{k} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{(k-1)+k+1}{k} + \frac{k}{1} \rightarrow \frac{2}{1} + \frac{k}{1} \rightarrow \frac{1}{1} + \frac{k-1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{k-1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$. Hence shown. $\square$

Claim 4: If you can reach $\frac{n^2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ then you can reach $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{n}$
Proof: $\frac{n^2}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{n^2}{n} + \frac{1}{n} \rightarrow \frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{n}$ $\square$


Now since obtaining $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ finishes the problem as per the claims it suffices to show that it is possible to obtain $\frac{K}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ from $\frac{c}{1} + \frac{1}{c}$ where $c$ is any positive integer and $K$ is some positive integer depending on $c$. But $\frac{c}{1} + \frac{1}{c} \rightarrow \frac{2c-1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$.
Hence we have shown that the answer to the problem is a very positive $\boxed{\text{ YES }}$.
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GAMO Day 1 Problem 1 Solution:

If the current fractions are $\frac{a}{b},\frac{c}{d}$, then define the numerator difference to be $c-a$, and the denominator difference to be $d-b$. It is clear that the first two manipulations do not change either difference. It is also clear that given two states with the same numerator difference and same denominator difference, we can get from one to the other using only the first two operations. We will show that for any $a,b$, it is possible.

At the beginning the numerator and denominator differences are $-(a-1)$ and $(a-1)$, respectively. Let $d=\text{gcd}(ab-a, ab+2a-2b-1)$. Then apply the first two actions to change the numerator of the second fraction to $\frac{d+1}{d}(ab-a)$ and change the denominator of the second fraction to $\frac{d+1}{d}(ab+2a-2b-1)$ (as $\frac{d+1}{d}(ab+2a-2b-1)\ge ab+2a-2b-1\ge 2a-1>a$, no negative number will be caused in the denominator of the first fraction).Then reduce the second fraction to make the numerator $\frac{1}{d}(ab-a)$ and the denominator $\frac{1}{d}(ab+2a-2b-1)$. This decreases the numerator of the second fraction by $ab-a$ and decreases the denominator by $ab+2a-2b-1$, which changes the numerator difference to $-(a-1)-(ab-a)=-ab+1$ and changes the denominator difference to $(a-1)-(ab+2a-2b-1)=-ab-a+2b$.

This means that we can use the first two operations to get from the current state to $\frac{ab}{ab+a}$ and $\frac{1}{2b}$ as these two fractions have the same numerator and denominator differences as the current state. From here, simplify the first fraction to get $\frac{b}{b+1}$ and $\frac{1}{2b}$, and simply subtract $b$ from the denominator of both sides to get the desired state.
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EpicNumberTheory wrote:
My solution:
We would use the $+$ sign between the fractions instead of $,$ but it won't matter.
The Answer to the problem is a very positive $\boxed{\text{ YES }}$.

Claim 1: Let $d(n)$ be any divisor of $n$. Then you can obtain $\frac{d(n-1)+1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ from $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$.
Proof: $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{n+k}{1+k} + \frac{k}{k} \rightarrow \frac{n+k}{1+k} + \frac{1}{1}$. Now if $k+1 \mid n+k$ then $k+1 \mid n-1$. Choose such a $k$. Then $\frac{n+k}{1+k}+\frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{d(n-1)+1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ where $d(n-1)$ is some divisor of $n-1$. But since we can choose $k+1$ to be any divisor of $n-1$, $d(n-1)$ can take all the divisor values of $n-1$. Hence proven. $\square$


Claim 2: $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{n'}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ for some $n' < n$.
Proof: We would show this by strong induction. Now for the base case we would show that this is true for $3$:
$\frac{3}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{4}{1} + \frac{2}{1} \rightarrow \frac{4}{2} + \frac{2}{2} \rightarrow \frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$. Hence shown.
Now there always exists a divisor $d(n-1)$ of $n-1$ such that $d(n-1)<n-1$ if $n-1>2$. So by Claim 1 this Claim is shown as well. $\square$.

So if one obtains $\frac{l}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ then one can obtain $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$

Claim 3: You can reach $\frac{n}{1}+\frac{1}{1}$ from $\frac{2}{1}+\frac{1}{1}$ for any $n > 1$

Proof: $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{2} \rightarrow \frac{4}{1} + \frac{3}{2} \rightarrow \frac{4}{2} + \frac{3}{3} \rightarrow \frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$
Now we would be proving that for any $n>1$: $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ can be obtained from $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$.
$\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{k+1}{k} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{(k-1)+k+1}{k} + \frac{k}{1} \rightarrow \frac{2}{1} + \frac{k}{1} \rightarrow \frac{1}{1} + \frac{k-1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{k-1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$. Hence shown. $\square$

Claim 4: If you can reach $\frac{n^2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ then you can reach $\frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{n}$
Proof: $\frac{n^2}{1} + \frac{1}{1} \rightarrow \frac{n^2}{n} + \frac{1}{n} \rightarrow \frac{n}{1} + \frac{1}{n}$ $\square$


Now since obtaining $\frac{2}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ finishes the problem as per the claims it suffices to show that it is possible to obtain $\frac{K}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$ from $\frac{c}{1} + \frac{1}{c}$ where $c$ is any positive integer and $K$ is some positive integer depending on $c$. But $\frac{c}{1} + \frac{1}{c} \rightarrow \frac{2c-1}{1} + \frac{1}{1}$.
Hence we have shown that the answer to the problem is a very positive $\boxed{\text{ YES }}$.

I just wonder, why did you make such a detour proving Claim 1-3:
$$ \left( \frac{n}{1} ~,~ \frac{1}{1} \right) \to \left( \frac{2n-2}{n-1} ~,~ \frac{n-1}{n-1} \right) \to \left( \frac{2}{1} ~,~ \frac{1}{1} \right) $$
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I guess I was just trying to look for a way to just solve it. (Btw thats claim 1 and 2 and not 1 to 3)
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We prove that we can achieve such configuration for any positive integer $b$.
$$ \left(\frac{a}{1}, \frac{1}{a} \right) \to \left(\frac{a+a-2}{1+a-2}, \frac{1+a-2}{a+a-2} \right) \to \left(\frac{2}{1}, \frac{1}{2} \right) \to \left(\frac{2+1}{1}, \frac{1+1}{2} \right) \to \left( \frac{3}{1}, \frac{1}{1} \right) \to \left(\frac{3+1}{1+1}, \frac{1+1}{1+1} \right) \to \left(\frac{2}{1}, \frac{1}{1} \right)$$$$ \left(\frac{a}{1}, \frac{1}{a} \right) \to \left(\frac{a}{1+a-1}, \frac{1}{a+a-1} \right) \to \left(\frac{1}{1}, \frac{1}{2a-1} \right) \ to \left(\frac{1+1}{1+1}, \frac{1+1}{2a-1+1} \right) \to \left(\frac{1}{1}, \frac{1}{a} \right) \to \left( \frac{1}{1+a-1}, \frac{1}{a+a-1} \right) \to \left( \frac{1}{a}, \frac{1}{2a-1} \right)$$$$\left(\frac{1}{a}, \frac{1}{2a-1} \right) \to \left(\frac{1+a-1}{a}, \frac{1+a-1}{2a-1} \right) \to \left(\frac{1}{1}, \frac{a}{2a-1} \right) \to \left(\frac{1}{1+1}, \frac{a}{2a-1+1} \right) \to \left(\frac{1}{2}, \frac{1}{2} \right) \to \left( \frac{1}{1}, \frac{1}{1} \right)$$In general from the last line we can achieve any $\left(\frac{m}{n}, \frac{m}{n} \right)$ for $ m,n \ge 1$. Now we must continue to find more things
$$\left(\frac{2}{1}, \frac{1}{1} \right) \to \left( \frac{2}{1+1}, \frac{1}{1+1} \right) \to \left( \frac{1}{1}, \frac{1}{2} \right) \to \left (\frac{1}{1}, \frac {m}{m+1} \right) \to \left(\frac{m+3}{1}, \frac {2m+2}{m+1} \right)$$$$\left(\frac{m+3}{1}, \frac{2}{1} \right) \to \left(\frac{m+3-1}{1}, \frac{2-1}{1} \right) \to \left( \frac{m+2}{1}, \frac{1}{1} \right) \to \left(\frac{m+ 2}{1+m+1}, \frac{1}{1+m+1} \right) \to \left(\frac{1}{1}, \frac{1}{m+2} \right)$$Since this can be done for $m \ge 1$ we can get $\left(\frac{n}{1}, \frac{1}{1} \right)$ for all $ n \ge 1$. Now we shall continue...
$$\left(\frac{b(b-1)(b-2)+1}{1}, \frac{1}{1} \right) \to \left(\frac{b(b-1)(b-2)+b(b-1)}{1}, \frac{b(b-1)}{1} \right) \to \left(\frac{b(b-1)(b-2)+b(b-1)}{b}, \frac{b-1}{1} \right) \to \left(\frac{b(b-1)(b-2)+b(b-1)}{b^2-b}, \frac{b-1}{(b-1)^2} \right) \to \left(\frac{b-1}{1}, \frac{1}{b-1} \right)$$Now notice that all the steps here are legal when $b \ge 4$ so we can get $\left(\frac{b}{1}, \frac{1}{b} \right)$ for $b \ge 3$ but at the beggining we got it for $b=2$ and then for $b=1$ therefore we can achieve such pair for any positive integer $b$ as desired, thus we are done :cool:.
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