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When 7 fair standard 6-sided dice are thrown, the probability that the sum of the numbers on the top faces is 10 can be written as <cmath>\frac{n}{6^7},</cmath>where <math>n</math> is a positive integer. What is <math>n</math>?
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==Problem==
  
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<math>\textbf{(A) }   42   \qquad       \textbf{(B) }   49   \qquad   \textbf{(C) }   56   \qquad   \textbf{(D) } 63 \qquad \textbf{(E) }   84 </math>
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When <math>7</math> fair standard <math>6</math>-sided dice are thrown, the probability that the sum of the numbers on the top faces is <math>10</math> can be written as <cmath>\frac{n}{6^{7}},</cmath> where <math>n</math> is a positive integer. What is <math>n</math>?
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<math>
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\textbf{(A) }42\qquad
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\textbf{(B) }49\qquad
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\textbf{(C) }56\qquad
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\textbf{(D) }63\qquad
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\textbf{(E) }84\qquad
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</math>
  
 
== Solutions ==
 
== Solutions ==
 
===Solution 1===
 
===Solution 1===
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The minimum number that can be shown on the face of a die is 1, so the least possible sum of the top faces of the 7 dies is 7.
 
  
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In order for the sum to be exactly 10, 1 to 3 dices' number on the top face must be increased by a total of 3.  
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Add possibilities. There are <math>3</math> ways to sum to <math>10</math>, listed below.
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<cmath>4,1,1,1,1,1,1: 7</cmath>
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<cmath>3,2,1,1,1,1,1: 42</cmath>
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<cmath>2,2,2,1,1,1,1: 35.</cmath>
  
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There are 3 ways to do so:
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Add up the possibilities: <math>35+42+7=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 84}</math>.
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3, 2+1, and 1+1+1
 
  
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There are <math>7</math> for Case 1, <math>7\cdot 6 = 42</math> for Case 2, and <math>\frac{7\cdot 6\cdot 5}{3!} = 35</math> for Case 3.
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===Solution 2===
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Rolling a sum of <math>10</math> with 7 dice can be represented with stars and bars, with 10 stars and 6 bars. Each star represents one of the dots on the dices' faces and the bars represent separation between different dice. However, we must note that each die must have at least one dot on a face, so there must already be 7 stars predetermined. We are left with 3 stars and 6 bars, which we can rearrange in <math>\dbinom{9}{3}=\boxed{\textbf{(E)}}</math>
  
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Therefore, the answer is <math>7+42+35 = \boxed {\textbf{(E) } 84}</math>
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===Solution 3 (overkill)===
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We can use generating functions, where <math>(x+x^2+...+x^6)</math> is the function for each die. We want to find the coefficient of <math>x^{10}</math> in <math>(x+x^2+...+x^6)^7</math>, which is the coefficient of <math>x^3</math> in <math>\left(\frac{1-x^7}{1-x}\right)^7</math>. This evaluates to <math>\dbinom{-7}{3} \cdot (-1)^3=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 84}</math>
  
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Solution by PancakeMonster2004
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===Solution 4 (Stars and Bars)===
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If we let each number take its minimum value of 1, we will get 7 as the minimum sum. So we can do <math>10</math> - <math>7</math> = <math>3</math> to find the number of balls we need to distribute to get three more added to the minimum to get 10, so the problem is asking how many ways can you put <math>3</math> balls into <math>7</math> boxes. From there we get <math>\binom{7+3-1}{7-1}=\binom{9}{6}=\boxed{84}</math>
  
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===Solution 2===
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=== Solution 5 (Similar to above, using number separation) ===
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Rolling a sum of 10 with 7 dice can be represented with stars and bars, with 10 stars and 6 bars. Each star represents one of the dots on the die's faces and the bars represent separation between different dice. However, we must note that each die must have at least one dot on a face, so there must already be 7 stars predetermined. We are left with 3 stars and 6 bars, which we can rearrange in <math>\dbinom{9}{3}=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 84}</math> ways. (RegularHexagon)
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We can use number separation for this problem. If we set each of the dice value to <math>D\{a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h\}</math>, we can say
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<math>D = 10</math> and each of <math>D</math>'s elements are larger than <math>0</math>. Using the positive number separation formula, which is <math>\dbinom{n-1}{r-1}</math>, we can make the following equations.
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<cmath>\begin{align*}
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D &= 10 \\
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a+b+c+d+e+f+g &= 10 \\
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\dbinom{10-1}{7-1} &= \\
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\dbinom{9}{6} &= \\
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\dbinom{9}{3} &= \\
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\dfrac{9 \cdot 8 \cdot 7}{3 \cdot 2 \cdot 1} &= \\
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12 \cdot 7 &= \boxed{\textbf{(B)}84} \\
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\end{align*}</cmath>
  
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===Solution 3===
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Note: We are unable to use non-negative number separations due to the fact that the dice *must* be larger than <math>0</math> or positive.
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Add possibilities. There are <math>3</math> ways to sum to <math>10</math>, listed below.
 
  
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<cmath>4,1,1,1,1,1,1: 7</cmath>
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~ Wiselion =)
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<cmath>3,2,1,1,1,1,1: 42</cmath>
 
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<cmath>2,2,2,1,1,1,1: 35.</cmath>
 
  
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Add up the possibilities: <math>35+42+7=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 84}</math>.
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==Video Solution (HOW TO THINK CREATIVELY!)==
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https://youtu.be/gTpg8yInCCY
  
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Thus we have repeated Solution 1 exactly, but with less explanation.
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~Education, the Study of Everything
  
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~kevinmathz
 
  
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===Solution 4 (overkill)===
 
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We can use generating functions, where <math>(x+x^2+...+x^6)</math> is the function for each die. We want to find the coefficient of <math>x^{10}</math> in <math>(x+x^2+...+x^6)^7</math>, which is the coefficient of <math>x^3</math> in <math>\left(\frac{1-x^7}{1-x}\right)^7</math>. This evaluates to <math>\dbinom{-7}{3} \cdot (-1)^3=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 84}</math>
 
  
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-wannabecharmander
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==Video Solution 1==
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https://youtu.be/HVn1WV80ZIU
  
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~savannahsolver
  
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== Video Solution by OmegaLearn==
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https://youtu.be/5UojVH4Cqqs?t=5381
  
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HOW DO YOU DO THIS
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~ pi_is_3.14
  
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===Solution 5 (Stars and Bars)===
 
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Since every number has to be positive we can subtract <math>7</math> from the <math>10</math> we need to get, so the problem is asking how many ways can you put <math>3</math> Balls into <math>7</math> boxes. From there it is <math>\binom{7+3-1}{7-1}=\binom{9}{6}=\boxed{84}</math>
 
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(Zachdog1)
 
 
== See Also ==
 
== See Also ==
  

Revision as of 19:57, 7 October 2023

Problem

When $7$ fair standard $6$-sided dice are thrown, the probability that the sum of the numbers on the top faces is $10$ can be written as \[\frac{n}{6^{7}},\] where $n$ is a positive integer. What is $n$?

$\textbf{(A) }42\qquad \textbf{(B) }49\qquad \textbf{(C) }56\qquad \textbf{(D) }63\qquad \textbf{(E) }84\qquad$

Solutions

Solution 1

Add possibilities. There are $3$ ways to sum to $10$, listed below.

\[4,1,1,1,1,1,1: 7\] \[3,2,1,1,1,1,1: 42\] \[2,2,2,1,1,1,1: 35.\]

Add up the possibilities: $35+42+7=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 84}$.

Solution 2

Rolling a sum of $10$ with 7 dice can be represented with stars and bars, with 10 stars and 6 bars. Each star represents one of the dots on the dices' faces and the bars represent separation between different dice. However, we must note that each die must have at least one dot on a face, so there must already be 7 stars predetermined. We are left with 3 stars and 6 bars, which we can rearrange in $\dbinom{9}{3}=\boxed{\textbf{(E)}}$

Solution 3 (overkill)

We can use generating functions, where $(x+x^2+...+x^6)$ is the function for each die. We want to find the coefficient of $x^{10}$ in $(x+x^2+...+x^6)^7$, which is the coefficient of $x^3$ in $\left(\frac{1-x^7}{1-x}\right)^7$. This evaluates to $\dbinom{-7}{3} \cdot (-1)^3=\boxed{\textbf{(E) } 84}$

Solution 4 (Stars and Bars)

If we let each number take its minimum value of 1, we will get 7 as the minimum sum. So we can do $10$ - $7$ = $3$ to find the number of balls we need to distribute to get three more added to the minimum to get 10, so the problem is asking how many ways can you put $3$ balls into $7$ boxes. From there we get $\binom{7+3-1}{7-1}=\binom{9}{6}=\boxed{84}$

Solution 5 (Similar to above, using number separation)

We can use number separation for this problem. If we set each of the dice value to $D\{a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h\}$, we can say $D = 10$ and each of $D$'s elements are larger than $0$. Using the positive number separation formula, which is $\dbinom{n-1}{r-1}$, we can make the following equations. \begin{align*} D &= 10 \\ a+b+c+d+e+f+g &= 10 \\ \dbinom{10-1}{7-1} &= \\ \dbinom{9}{6} &= \\ \dbinom{9}{3} &= \\ \dfrac{9 \cdot 8 \cdot 7}{3 \cdot 2 \cdot 1} &= \\ 12 \cdot 7 &= \boxed{\textbf{(B)}84} \\ \end{align*}

Note: We are unable to use non-negative number separations due to the fact that the dice *must* be larger than $0$ or positive.

~ Wiselion =)

Video Solution (HOW TO THINK CREATIVELY!)

https://youtu.be/gTpg8yInCCY

~Education, the Study of Everything


Video Solution 1

https://youtu.be/HVn1WV80ZIU

~savannahsolver

Video Solution by OmegaLearn

https://youtu.be/5UojVH4Cqqs?t=5381

~ pi_is_3.14

See Also

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