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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
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N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
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N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
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To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


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For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
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If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
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Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


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$ii$ of each $b$ consecutive integers at least one is coloured blue;
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find the smallest $n \geq 2016$ such that $f(n)=n$
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Let $n$ be a positive integer. Given is a subset $A$ of $\{0,1,...,5^n\}$ with $4n+2$ elements. Prove that there exist three elements $a<b<c$ from $A$ such that $c+2a>3b$.

Proposed by Dominik Burek and Tomasz Ciesla, Poland
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Let $n$ be a positive integer. Given is a subset $A$ of $\{0,1,...,5^n\}$ with $4n+2$ elements. Prove that there exist three elements $a<b<c$ from $A$ such that $c+2a>3b$.

Proposed by Dominik Burek and Tomasz Ciesla, Poland
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Assume otherwise. Then, if $A$ consists of $0 \leq x_1<x_2<\ldots<x_{4n+2} \leq 5^n$, then $3x_{4n+1} \geq x_{4n+2}+2x_{4n}$. Let $y_i=x_{4n+2}-x_i>0$ for all $i$, and so the above relation rewrites as $y_{i+1} \leq \frac{2}{3}y_i$. Hence, we easily obtain that $y_{4n+1} \leq (\frac{2}{3})^{4n}  y_1$.

However,

$1 \leq y_{4n+1} \leq (\frac{2}{3})^{4n}(x_{4n+2}-x_1) \leq (\frac{16}{81})^n(5^n-0)=(\frac{80}{81})^n<1,$

which gives the desired contradiction.
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Suppose the elements of $A$ are $a_1 < a_2 < \cdots < a_{4n+2}$. Pick $c = a_{4n+2}$ (with the idea in mind that we do not win more if we do not pick the largest element of $A$) and aim for $a$ and $b$ to be consecutive in the above sequence (in any other case the difference $3b-2a$ shall be larger). If we prove that $c + 2a_i > 3a_{i+1}$ for at least one $i=1,2,\ldots,4n$, the problem shall be solved. Suppose the contrary, i.e. $a_{i+1} \geq \frac{c+2a_i}{3}$ for all $i=1,2,\ldots,4n$. Setting $a_i = b_i + c$ yields $b_{i+1} \geq \frac{2b_i}{3}$ and so $b_{4n+1} \geq \left(\frac{2}{3}\right)^{4n}b_1$, whence $\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)^{4n}(c-a_1) \geq c - a_{4n+1}$. In the latter the right-hand side is at least $1$, while the left-hand one is less than $\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)^{4n} \cdot 5^n = \left(\frac{80}{81}\right)^{n} < 1$, contradiction.
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ISL 2021 A1. Let $n\in\mathbb Z$ and $A\subseteq\{0, 1, \dots, 5^n\}$ with $|A|=4n+2$. Prove that there exist $a, b, c\in A$ such that $a<b<c$ and $c+2a>3b$.

Solution. We choose elements of $A$ one by one from $\{0, 1, \dots, 5^n\}$ such that there are no $a, b, c\in A$ and $a<b<c$ such that $c+2a>3b$. Consider the case when $0$ and $5^n$ are chosen at the moment. Take $a=0$, $c=5^n$, then all the numbers less than $\left[\frac{5^n}3\right]+1$ cannot be chosen, so the smallest number can be chosen is greater than $\frac13\cdot 5^n$. Take $a$ be that number, which is greater than $\frac13\cdot 5^n$ and $c=5^n$, then all the numbers less than $\left[\frac{5^n+\frac23\cdot 5^n}3\right]+1$ cannot be chosen, so the smallest number can be chosen this time is greater than $\frac59\cdot 5^n$. The idea is to repeat this for $4n$ times.

Define a sequence by $a_1=\frac13$ and $a_{n+1}=\frac{2a_n+1}3$ for all $n\in\mathbb Z_+$. It follows that the smallest number can be chosen in the $k^{\text{th}}$ is greater than $a_k\cdot 5^n$.

Claim 1. We have $a_{4n}>\frac{5^n-1}{5^n}$.

Proof. Induction. For the base case: $a_1=\frac13$, $a_2=\frac59$, $a_3=\frac{19}{27}$, $a_4=\frac{65}{81}>\frac45$. Assume that $a_{4k}>\frac{5^k-1}{5^k}$. Then \begin{align*}a_{4(k+1)}&=\frac{2\left(\frac{2\left(\frac{2\left(\frac{2a_{4k}+1}3\right)+1}3\right)+1}3\right)+1}3\\&=\frac{16a_{4k}+65}{81}\\&>\frac{16\cdot\frac{5^k-1}{5^k}+65}{81}\\&=\frac{81\cdot 5^k-16}{81\cdot 5^k}\\&>\frac{81\cdot 5^k-16-5^k}{81\cdot 5^k-5^k}\\&=\frac{5^{k+1}-1}{5^{k+1}}\end{align*}does the inductive step.

It follows from Claim 1 that the smallest number can be chosen in the last time, i.e. the $4n^{\text{th}}$ time, is greater than $\frac{5^n-1}{5^n}\cdot 5^n=5^n-1$, but the only such number is available is $5^n$, which is chosen in the beginning. This is a contradiction.

If the numbers $0$ or $5^n$ is not chosen, then repeat the argument by taking $a$ to be the minimal element of $A$ and $c$ the maximal element of $A$. The contradiction above will still be induced as the range of 'available numbers' is even smaller than between $1$ and $5^n-1$ inclusive in above. Therefore, there is no way we can choose numbers such that there are no $a, b, c\in A$ and $a<b<c$ such that $c+2a>3b$, the result follows.
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Let $A=\{a_1,a_2,\ldots,a_{4n+2}\}$ with $a_1<a_2<\ldots<a_{4n+2}$. If $a$, $b$, and $c$ do not exist, we must have that $a_{4n+2}+2a_i\leq3a_{i+1}$ for all $1\leq i\leq4n+1$. We claim that $a_i\geq\left(1-\left(\frac23\right)^{i-1}\right)a_{4n+2}$ by induction on $i$.

Base Case: $i=1$
Since $a_1\geq0$, we have $a_1\geq\left(1-\left(\frac23\right)^{1-1}\right)a_{4n+2}=0$.

Inductive Step:
We have
\begin{align*}
a_{i+1}\geq\frac13a_{4n+2}+\frac23a_i\\
&\geq\frac13a_{4n+2}+\frac23a_{4n+2}-\left(\frac23\right)^ia_{4n+2}\\
&=\left(1-\left(\frac23\right)^i\right)a_{4n+2}.
\end{align*}Therefore, $a_{4n+1}\geq\left(1-\left(\frac23\right)^{4n}\right)a_{4n+2}>\left(1-\left(\frac15\right)^n\right)a_{4n+2}$ since $\left(\frac23\right)^4=\frac{16}{81}<\frac15$. Since $a_{4n+2}\leq5^n$, we have $a_{4n+1}>a_{4n+2}-\frac{a_{4n+2}}{5^n}\geq a_{4n+2}-1$, which is impossible since $a_{4n+1}\leq a_{4n+2}-1$. Therefore, this is a contradiction, so there must exist $a$, $b$, $c\in A$ such that $a<b<c$ and $c+2a>3b$.
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Suppose for the sake of contradiction that $c+2a\le 3b$ for all $a,b,c\in A$ with $a<b<c.$

$\textbf{Claim: }$ If the elements of $A$ are $s_1<s_2<\dots<s_{4n+2},$ then $s_i\ge s_{4n+2}(1-(\tfrac{2}{3})^{i-1})$ for all $i.$

$\emph{Proof: }$ Induct on $i;$ the base case is true because $s_1\ge 0.$

For the inductive step, consider $s_k.$ Take $(a,b,c)=(s_{k-1},s_k,s_{4n+2});$ by our assumption, we have \[s_{4n+2}+2s_{k-1}\ge 3s_k.\]Therefore,
\begin{align*}
s_k
&\ge\frac{s_{4n+2}+2s_{k-1}}{3}\\
&\ge\frac{s_{4n+2}+2(s_{4n+2}(1-(\tfrac{2}{3})^{k-2}))}{3}\\
&=\frac{s_{4n+2}(3-2(\tfrac{2}{3})^{k-2})}{3}\\
&=s_{4n+2}(1-(\tfrac{2}{3})^{k-1}),
\end{align*}as desired. $\blacksquare$

In particular, we have
\begin{align*}
s_{4n+1}
&\ge s_{4n+2}(1-(\tfrac{2}{3})^{4n})\\
&=s_{4n+2}-(\tfrac{16}{81})^{n}s_{4n+2}\\
&>s_{4n+2}-(\tfrac{1}{5})^{n}5^n\\
&=s_{4n+2}-1.
\end{align*}This is impossible, as $s_{4n+1}$ is an integer less than $s_{4n+2}.$
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The idea is to plug in triples of the form $(a_i, a_{i+1}, a_{4n+2})$ (of course, let $a_1<...<a_{4n+2}$). Supposing otherwise for contradiction, we get $3a_{i+1} \geq 2a_i+a_{4n+2}$, so if $d_i=a_i-a_{4n+2}$, then $3d_{i+1} \geq 2d_i \iff \frac {d_{i+1}} {d_i} \geq \frac {2}{3}$, so $d_{4n+1} \geq (\frac{2}{3})^{4n}d_1$ by multiplying them. Then $(5.(\frac{2}{3})^4)^n>(\frac{2}{3})^{4n}(a_{4n+2}-a_1) \geq a_{4n+2}- a_{4n+1}\geq 1$, contradiction.
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Order the elements $x_1 < x_2 < x_3 < \cdots < x_{4n+1} < x_{4n+2}$. We claim that for some $1 \le i \le 4n$, $(a_i,a_{i+1},a_{4n+2})$ satisfies the condition. Assume not. Let $d_i=x_{4n+2}-x_i$. The condition becomes $d_{i+1} \le \frac{2}{3} d_i$. This means that $d_{4n+1}  \le \left( \frac{2}{3} \right) ^{4n} d_1$. We have that $d_{4n+1}  \ge 1$ and $d_1 \le 5^n$. We get that $$1 \le d_{4n+1} \le \left( \frac{2}{3} \right) ^{4n} d_1 \le \left( \frac{2}{3} \right) ^{4n} \cdot 5^n = \left( \frac{80}{81} \right) ^n,$$which is an obvious contradiction so we are done.
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Let the elements in $A$ be $a_1 < a_2 < \ldots < a_{4n+2}$. Suppose there exists a tuple $(i,j,k)$ of indices $i < j < k$ such that $a_{k} + 2a_{i} > 3a_j$. Then note that $a_{4n+2} + 2a_{j-1} \ge a_k + 2a_i > 3a_j$, so the tuple $(j-1,j,4n+2)$ also works.

Therefore, it is equivalent to show that for some $1 \le j \le 4n-1$, we have $x_{4n+2} + 2x_{j-1} > 3x_j$. Assume that this is not the case. Then for all $1 \le j \le 4n-1$, we have \[2(x_{j-1} - x_{4n+2}) \le 3(x_{j} - x_{4n+2}) \implies x_{4n+2}-x_j \le  \frac{2}{3} (x_{4n+2}-x_{j-1}) \]In particular, this means \[x_{4n+2} - x_{4n+1} \le \left ( \frac{2}{3} \right )^{4n} (x_{4n+2} - x_1) \le \left ( \frac{2}{3} \right )^{4n} (5^n - 0) = \left ( \frac{80}{81} \right )^n < 1,\]a contradiction.
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A bit hastily written.

Let the elements of $A$ be $a_1<a_2<\dots<a_{4n+2}$. Note that adding or subtracting any constant $C$ from each element in $A$ doesn't change whether it satisfies the condition in the problem; therefore, we may set $a_{4n+2}=5^n$. Note that the condition is equal to $c-b>2(b-a)$; it suffices to show that we can't construct a set such that $a_{4n+2}-a_{i+1}\le 2(a_{i+1}-a_i)$ for all $1\le i\le 4n$. Now let $a_{4n+2}-a_{4n+1}=d$. Then
\[a_{4n+1}-a_{4n}\ge \frac{d}{2}\]\[a_{4n}-a_{4n-1}\ge \frac{3d}{4}\]\[\vdots\]\begin{align*}
a_{i+1}-a_{i}&\ge \frac{a_{4n+2}-a_{i+1}}{2} \\
&=\frac{(a_{4n+2}-a_{4n+1})+(a_{4n+1}-a_{4n})+\dots+(a_{i+2}-a_{i+1})}{2} \\
&\ge \frac{d}{2}\cdot \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^{4n-i}.
\end{align*}Finally we obtain $5^n\ge a_{4n+2}-a_{1}\ge d\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^{4n}\ge \left(\frac{81}{16}\right)^n>5^n$ which is a contradiction. We are done. $\blacksquare$
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Nice, I like it!

Let the numbers in $A$ be $a_1,a_2,\dots,a_{4n+2}$, where $a_i<a_j$ if $i<j.$ Assume FTSOC that $3b\ge 2a+c$ for all $a,b,c\in A.$ Thus, we get that $a_2\ge \frac{2a_1+a_{4n+2}}{3}\ge \frac{1}{3}a_{4n+2}.$

Call a positive integer $1\le k\le 4n+1$ $r$-good if we have $a_k\ge ra_{4n+2}.$ If $a_i$ is $r$-good then $a_{i+1}$ is $\frac{2r+1}{3}$-good. Note that $a_2$ is $1-\frac{2}{3}$-good. If $a_i$ is $1-\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)^{i-1}$-good then we see that $a_{i+1}$ is $1-\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)^i$-good. Thus, by induction, $a_{4n+1}$ is $1-\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)^{4n}$-good.

Hence, we have $a_{4n+1}\ge a_{4n+2}-a_{4n+2}\cdot \left(\frac{16}{81}\right)^n.$ We claim that it is forced to have $a_{4n+1}=a_{4n+2}.$ To do this, we show that $a_{4n+2}\left(\frac{16}{81}\right)^n< 1.$ This is true, since $a_{4n+2}\left(\frac{16}{81}\right)^n< \frac{a_{4n+2}}{5^n}\le 1.$ Thus, we reach a contradiction, so we're done.
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This problem was proposed by Burii and me :)
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Let the subset contain elements $x_1<x_2<\dots<x_{4n+2}$ and let $c=x_{4n+2}.$ Suppose FTSOC that $x_{4n+2}+2a\le 3b$ for all $a<b,$ which implies $x_{4n+2}+2x_i\le 3x_{i+1}$ for all $1\le i\le 4n.$ We claim by induction that $x_j\ge x_{4n+2}(1-(2/3)^{j-1})$ for $j\ge 1.$ Indeed, $x_1\ge 0=x_{4n+2}(1-1)$ and $x_k\ge x_{4n+2}(1-(2/3)^{k-1})$ implies $$x_{k+1}\ge \frac{x_{4n+2}+2x_k}{3}\ge x_{4n+2}\frac{1+1-2(2/3)^j}{3}=x_{4n+2}(1-(2/3)^k),$$completing the induction. Notice $$x_{4n+1}\ge x_{4n+2}(1-(16/81)^n)>x_{4n+2}(1-(1/5)^n)=x_{4n+2}-x_{4n+2}(1/5)^n\ge x_{4n+2}-1$$since $1/5>16/81$ and $x_{4n+2}\le 5^n.$ Hence, $x_{4n+1}>x_{4n+2}-1$ so $x_{4n+1}\ge x_{4n+2},$ a contradiction. $\square$
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Suppose that $c+2a \leq 3b$ for all $a < b < c$ in $A.$ Then $a \leq \frac{3b - c}{2}.$
Then $A = \{a_1,\ldots,a_{4n+2}\}$ where $a_1 < \cdots < a_{4n+2},$ we have for all $k \leq 4n$ and considering the triple $(a_k, a_{k+1}, a_{4n+2}),$ that $a_k \leq \frac{3 a_{k+1} - a_{4n+2}}{2}.$

Thus, let $x = a_{4n+2} \leq 5^n, y = a_{4n+1} \leq x-1.$
Then $a_{4n} \leq \frac{3y-x}{2},$ and $a_{4n-1} \leq \frac{3 \left( \frac{3y-x}{2} - x \right)}{2} = \frac{9y-5x}{4},$ and $a_{4n-2} \leq \frac{3 \left( \frac{9y-5x}{4} \right) - x}{2} = \frac{27y-19x}{8},$ etc. We can easily see that in general we have by induction $a_{4n+1-m} \leq \frac{3^m y - (3^m - 2^m) x}{2^m}$ by induction, as $\frac{ 3 \left( \frac{3^j y - (3^j - 2^j) x}{2^j} \right) - x }{2} = \frac{  3^{j+1} y - 3(3^j - 2^j)x - 2^j x          }{2^{j+1}} = \frac{3^{j+1} y - (3^{j+1} - 2^{j+1}) x}{2^{j+1}}$

Thus, we get $a_1 \leq \frac{3^{4n} y - (3^{4n} - 2^{4n}) x}{2^{4n}} \leq \frac{3^{4n} (x-1) - (3^{4n} - 2^{4n}) x}{2^{4n}} = \frac{-3^{4n} + 2^{4n} x}{2^{4n}} = x - \frac{3^{4n}}{2^{4n}} \leq 5^n - \frac{3^{4n}}{2^{4n}} < 0$ where the last inequality holds for all $n \geq 1$ as $5^n < \frac{81^n}{16^n}$ follows from $80^n < 81^n.$ This is a contradiction. $\blacksquare$
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