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not fun equation
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N 10 minutes ago by Adywastaken
Source: USA TST 2024/6
Find all functions $f\colon\mathbb R\to\mathbb R$ such that for all real numbers $x$ and $y$,
\[f(xf(y))+f(y)=f(x+y)+f(xy).\]
Milan Haiman
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Adywastaken
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Serbian selection contest for the IMO 2025 - P6
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N an hour ago by atdaotlohbh
Source: Serbian selection contest for the IMO 2025
For an $n \times n$ table filled with natural numbers, we say it is a divisor table if:
- the numbers in the $i$-th row are exactly all the divisors of some natural number $r_i$,
- the numbers in the $j$-th column are exactly all the divisors of some natural number $c_j$,
- $r_i \ne r_j$ for every $i \ne j$.

A prime number $p$ is given. Determine the smallest natural number $n$, divisible by $p$, such that there exists an $n \times n$ divisor table, or prove that such $n$ does not exist.

Proposed by Pavle Martinović
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Geometry with fix circle
falantrng   33
N an hour ago by zuat.e
Source: RMM 2018 Problem 6
Fix a circle $\Gamma$, a line $\ell$ to tangent $\Gamma$, and another circle $\Omega$ disjoint from $\ell$ such that $\Gamma$ and $\Omega$ lie on opposite sides of $\ell$. The tangents to $\Gamma$ from a variable point $X$ on $\Omega$ meet $\ell$ at $Y$ and $Z$. Prove that, as $X$ varies over $\Omega$, the circumcircle of $XYZ$ is tangent to two fixed circles.
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Brilliant Problem
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N an hour ago by Davdav1232
Source: Iran TST 2025 Test 3 Problem 3
Find all sequences \( (a_n) \) of natural numbers such that for every pair of natural numbers \( r \) and \( s \), the following inequality holds:
\[
\frac{1}{2} < \frac{\gcd(a_r, a_s)}{\gcd(r, s)} < 2
\]
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Ez induction to start it off
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N May 14, 2025 by Adywastaken
Source: Inmo 2025 p1
Consider the sequence defined by \(a_1 = 2\), \(a_2 = 3\), and
\[
a_{2k+1} = 2 + 2a_k, \quad a_{2k+2} = 2 + a_k + a_{k+1},
\]for all integers \(k \geq 1\). Determine all positive integers \(n\) such that
\[
\frac{a_n}{n}
\]is an integer.

Proposed by Niranjan Balachandran, SS Krishnan, and Prithwijit De.
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Ez induction to start it off
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Consider the sequence defined by \(a_1 = 2\), \(a_2 = 3\), and
\[
a_{2k+1} = 2 + 2a_k, \quad a_{2k+2} = 2 + a_k + a_{k+1},
\]for all integers \(k \geq 1\). Determine all positive integers \(n\) such that
\[
\frac{a_n}{n}
\]is an integer.

Proposed by Niranjan Balachandran, SS Krishnan, and Prithwijit De.
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Answer : $ n=2^l-1$
Induction !
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Proposed by Niranjan Balachandran, SS Krishnan, and Prithwijit De.
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$2^n$ - 1
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Consider the sequence $b_n=2n-a_n$.
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solved in contest
solution
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Simple strong induction to show (observable) n < an <= 2an which does the trick and the equality case is the easier part of the problem when 2^k - 1.
n= 2^l-1 works which is also doable with induction.
Losing marks (maybe) on missing the basic equality case (just induct lil bro) makes me wanna kms :gleam:
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Posting for storage.
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Easy peasy, firstly you can see that $a_{2k}$ is odd. Now calculate some values for $a_{2k+1}$ you can see that for $2^p - 1$ type numbers $\frac{a_n}{n}$ is an integer. Then just simple induction proves the result.
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Pls check this solution
We first show a((2^n)-1)=(2^(n+1))-2 by induction.
Then we show a(2^n)=(2^(n+1)-1) again by induction
Then we show a((2^n)+(2^(n-1))-1)=(2^(n+1))+(2^(n-1))-2
Then we show that a(n+1)-an=1 or 3
And using all three claims we show that m=2^n -1 are the only solutions.
My idea is that the difference pattern goes like
1,3,1,1,3,3,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3 in powers of 2.
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I did it like this in exam:
Like i first proved a_odd is even,a_even is odd
Proof by induction
Then i proved a(2^x-1)=2(2^x-1) satisfies
Proof by induction
Then i proved a(n)>n
Proof by induction
Then i proved a(n)≤2n where equality hold when n=2^x-1
Proof by induction
And done :)
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WhT do u guys think about cutoff
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The only problem in exam that can take atmost 30 mins.
Solution
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Can anyone solve that problem without the 2? Let me rewrite

Consider the sequence defined by
\(a_1 = 2\), \(a_2 = 3\), and
\[
a_{2k+1} = 2 + a_k, \quad a_{2k+2} = 2 + a_k + a_{k+1},
\]for all integers \(k \geq 1\). Determine all positive integers \(n\) such that
\[
\frac{a_n}{n}
\]is an integer.

Edit: Actually I misread the problem statement and tried that problem instead for some times and couldn’t get how to prove that 2k+2 doesn’t divide (a_(2k+2)) and I even dont know if this claim is true. And I got a lot of bounding for other cases
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Reason: I misread the statement
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GMMeowChand wrote:
Can anyone solve that problem without the 2? Let me rewrite

Consider the sequence defined by
\(a_1 = 2\), \(a_2 = 3\), and
\[
a_{2k+1} = 2 + a_k, \quad a_{2k+2} = 2 + a_k + a_{k+1},
\]for all integers \(k \geq 1\). Determine all positive integers \(n\) such that
\[
\frac{a_n}{n}
\]is an integer.

Edit: Actually I misread the problem statement and tried that problem instead for some times and couldn’t get how to prove that 2k+2 doesn’t divide (a_(2k+2)) and I even dont know if this claim is true. And I got a lot of bounding for other cases

I am hacking this idea from other post above of this problem or this particular thread.

(No Offense Lol!!!)

Show that $\frac{a_n}{n}\leq 2$ for all $n$ , then only possible integer solution for $a_n$ is $n$ or $2n$.

I think this is the shorter way to kill your problem and also the original problem.

BTW the bound I wrote for $\frac{a_n}{n}$ is obvious , due to the solution present by others, also values of new sequence you give will be smaller than or equal to the original sequence.
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Safal wrote:
$\text{Also a small comment:}$ Hatt's off to the proposer of Problem 6 in INMO 2025. The only problem I fail to solve in the whole paper. I was near but didn't observe certain things. I only solved the case when $b=2$ but couldn't go further and finally saw the solution in aops.

Fr p6 is an amazing problem, tho personally I think solving the reformulated version of the problem is doable and getting to the reformulated version from the original problem is kinda hard.
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We claim that the answer is all positive integers of the form $n=2^r-1$ for all $r \ge 1$. The following is the key claim.

Claim : For all positive integers $n$,
\[n<a_n \le 2n\]


Proof : We show this via induction. When $n=1,2$ trivially, $1<a_1 \le 2$ and $2<a_2\le 4$ so the base cases are clear. Now, say the claim holds for all $1\le n \le 2k$ for some $k \ge 1$. Then,
\[2k+1 < 2+2k<2+2a_k=a_{2k+1} = 2+2a_k \le 2+2(2k)=2(2k+1)\]with equality on the upper bound if and only if $a_k=2k$. Similarly,
\[2k+2 < 2+k + (k+1) < 2 + a_k + a_{k+1} = a_{2k+2} = 2 + a_k + a_{k+1} \le 2+2k + 2(k+1)= 2(2k+2)\]with equality on the upper bound if and only if $a_k=2k$ and $a_{k+1}=2(k+1)$.

Now, if $\frac{a_n}{n}$ is an integer, the claim implies that we require $a_n = 2n$. Now, consider the minimal even $n>2$ such that $a_n =2n$. As a result of the equality condition noted above, we require $a_{\frac{n-2}{2}}=n-2$ and $a_{\frac{n-2}{2}+1}=n$ (since $n>2$ both of these are indeed valid terms). But these are consecutive terms, so one of them must have an even index. But since
\[\frac{n-2}{2} < \frac{n-2}{2}+1 < n\]for all $n>2$, this implies that there exists a smaller even indexed term $a_m=2m$ which is a contradiction. Thus, for all even $n$ , $\frac{a_n}{n}$ is not an integer.

For odd $n$, $a_n=2n$ if and only if $a_{\frac{n-1}{2}}=n-1$ as a result of the equality condition. We again resort to induction. Say the only integers $n \le 2^k-1$ for some $k\ge 1$ such that $a_n=2n$ are those of the form $n=2^r-1$ for $1 \le r \le k$. Then, for $2^k -1 < n \le 2^{k+1} -1$, $a_n=2n$ if and only if $a_{\frac{n-1}{2}}=n-1$. But,
\[2^{k-1}-1=\frac{2^k -2}{2}<\frac{n-1}{2} \le \frac{2^{k+1}-2}{2}=2^k -1\]and the only such term in this range is $a_{2^k-1}$ by assumption. Thus, the only such term in the range $2^k -1 < n \le 2^{k+1} -1$ is $a_{2^{k+1}-1}=2^{k+2}-2$ which completes the induction.
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OG!
{¶ Solution:}
We claim the answer is all $n=2^x-1$ for some positive integer $x$.

We have the following main claim:

Claim
Now we have the following claim:
Claim
Now it remains to show that all such integers work, we proceed with the following claim,
Claim

Remarks:
This problem is a perfect example of induction-bash. Other solutions that do not use such rigorous induction tend to miss minor or major details or cases.
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Safal wrote:
GMMeowChand wrote:
Can anyone solve that problem without the 2? Let me rewrite

Consider the sequence defined by
\(a_1 = 2\), \(a_2 = 3\), and
\[
a_{2k+1} = 2 + a_k, \quad a_{2k+2} = 2 + a_k + a_{k+1},
\]for all integers \(k \geq 1\). Determine all positive integers \(n\) such that
\[
\frac{a_n}{n}
\]is an integer.

Edit: Actually I misread the problem statement and tried that problem instead for some times and couldn’t get how to prove that 2k+2 doesn’t divide (a_(2k+2)) and I even dont know if this claim is true. And I got a lot of bounding for other cases

I am hacking this idea from other post above of this problem or this particular thread.

(No Offense Lol!!!)

Show that $\frac{a_n}{n}\leq 2$ for all $n$ , then only possible integer solution for $a_n$ is $n$ or $2n$.

I think this is the shorter way to kill your problem and also the original problem.

BTW the bound I wrote for $\frac{a_n}{n}$ is obvious , due to the solution present by others, also values of new sequence you give will be smaller than or equal to the original sequence.

Actually i have got that like i got $a_{2k+1}<2k+1$ for some bigger k and the k is not that much big and $a_{2k+2}<4k+4$ so the only thing that I have to care is that $2k+2=a_{2k+2}$ and yeah that's the place where I stuck how to prove if that is true or false. If it is false then how can I get to the contradiction
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I got it right but afraid of losing some marks.
In the claim of even n not being a solution I used descent but mistakenly wrote (infinite descent). A little tensed.
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It was a pain to write this up in-contest, but fortunately no one is going to dock me for less details here :D

Solution
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Very nice Problem
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A slightly different solution.
Claim $1$: $a_n>n\forall n\in \mathbb{N}$
Proof: $a_1=2>1$. Say it's true for $1,2,...,n$
If $n+1=2k+1$, $a_{2k+1}=2+2a_k>2k+2>2k+1$.
If $n+1=2k+2$, $a_{2k+2}=2+a_k+a_{k+1}>2k+3>2k+2$.
So, we are done.

Claim $2$: $a_n\le 2n\forall n\in \mathbb{N}$
Proof: Clearly, $a_1=2\le 2$. Say it's true for $1,2,3,\dots,n$.
If $n+1=2k+1, a_{2k+1}=2+2a_k\le 4k+2=2(2k+1)$.
If $n+1=2k+2, a_{2k+2}=2+a_k+a_{k+1}\le 4k+4=2(2k+2)$.

Claim $3$: If $a_n=2n$ then $n$ must be of the form $2^l-1$
Proof: If $2^1-1<i<2^2-1$, $a_i<2i$(Since $a_2=3$)
Say it's true for $2^{l-1}-1<i<2^l-1$.
For $2^l-1<i<2^{l+1}$, we take $2$ cases.
Case $1$: $l=2m+1$, $2^{l-1}-1<m<2^l-1$
$a_{2m+1}=2+2a_{m}<4m+2=2(2m+1)$.
Case $2$: $l=2m+2$, $2^{l-1}-1<m<2^l-1$
$a_{2m+2}=2+a_m+a_{m+1}<2+2m+2m+2=2(2m+2)$.

Claim $4$: $a_n=2n\forall n=2^l-1$
Proof: It is given $a_1=2=2\cdot 1$. Say $a_{2^l-1}=2(2^{l}-1)$.
$a_{2^{l+1}-1}=2+2a_{2^l-1}=2+2(2^{l+1}-2)=2(2^{l+1}-1)$.

Thus, we are done.
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