ka May Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
jlacosta0
4 hours ago
May is an exciting month! National MATHCOUNTS is the second week of May in Washington D.C. and our Founder, Richard Rusczyk will be presenting a seminar, Preparing Strong Math Students for College and Careers, on May 11th.
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[*]May 19th, 4:30pm PT/7:30pm ET, What's Next After Beast Academy?, designed for students finishing Beast Academy and ready for Prealgebra 1.
[*]May 20th, 4:00pm PT/7:00pm ET, Mathcamp 2025 Qualifying Quiz Part 1 Math Jam, Problems 1 to 4, join the Canada/USA Mathcamp staff for this exciting Math Jam, where they discuss solutions to Problems 1 to 4 of the 2025 Mathcamp Qualifying Quiz!
[*]May 21st, 4:00pm PT/7:00pm ET, Mathcamp 2025 Qualifying Quiz Part 2 Math Jam, Problems 5 and 6, Canada/USA Mathcamp staff will discuss solutions to Problems 5 and 6 of the 2025 Mathcamp Qualifying Quiz![/list]
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I have seen many posts talking about commonly asked questions, such as finding the value of ,,,, why or even expressions of those terms combined as if that would make them defined. I have made this post to answer these questions once and for all, and I politely ask everyone to link this post to threads that are talking about this issue.
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[*]Firstly, the case of . It is usually regarded that , not because this works numerically but because it is convenient to define it this way. You will see the convenience of defining other undefined things later on in this post.
[*]What about ? The issue here is that isn't even rigorously defined in this expression. What exactly do we mean by ? Unless the example in question is put in context in a formal manner, then we say that is meaningless.
[*]What about ? Suppose that . Then we would have , absurd. A more rigorous treatment of the idea is that does not exist in the first place, although you will see why in a calculus course. So the point is that is undefined.
[*]What about if ? An article from brilliant has a good explanation. Alternatively, you can just use a geometric series. Notice that
[*]What about ? Usually this is considered to be an indeterminate form, but I would also wager that this is also undefined.
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Hopefully all of these issues and their corollaries are finally put to rest. Cheers.
2nd EDIT (6/14/22): Since I originally posted this, it has since blown up so I will try to add additional information per the request of users in the thread below.
INDETERMINATE VS UNDEFINED
What makes something indeterminate? As you can see above, there are many things that are indeterminate. While definitions might vary slightly, it is the consensus that the following definition holds: A mathematical expression is be said to be indeterminate if it is not definitively or precisely determined. So how does this make, say, something like indeterminate? In analysis (the theory behind calculus and beyond), limits involving an algebraic combination of functions in an independent variable may often be evaluated by replacing these functions by their limits. However, if the expression obtained after this substitution does not provide sufficient information to determine the original limit, then the expression is called an indeterminate form. For example, we could say that is an indeterminate form.
But we need to more specific, this is still ambiguous. An indeterminate form is a mathematical expression involving at most two of , or , obtained by applying the algebraic limit theorem (a theorem in analysis, look this up for details) in the process of attempting to determine a limit, which fails to restrict that limit to one specific value or infinity, and thus does not determine the limit being calculated. This is why it is called indeterminate. Some examples of indeterminate forms are etc etc. So what makes something undefined? In the broader scope, something being undefined refers to an expression which is not assigned an interpretation or a value. A function is said to be undefined for points outside its domain. For example, the function given by the mapping is undefined for . On the other hand, is undefined because dividing by is not defined in arithmetic by definition. In other words, something is undefined when it is not defined in some mathematical context.
WHEN THE WATERS GET MUDDIED
So with this notion of indeterminate and undefined, things get convoluted. First of all, just because something is indeterminate does not mean it is not undefined. For example is considered both indeterminate and undefined (but in the context of a limit then it is considered in indeterminate form). Additionally, this notion of something being undefined also means that we can define it in some way. To rephrase, this means that technically, we can make something that is undefined to something that is defined as long as we define it. I'll show you what I mean.
One example of making something undefined into something defined is the extended real number line, which we define as So instead of treating infinity as an idea, we define infinity (positively and negatively, mind you) as actual numbers in the reals. The advantage of doing this is for two reasons. The first is because we can turn this thing into a totally ordered set. Specifically, we can let for each which means that via this order topology each subset has an infimum and supremum and is therefore compact. While this is nice from an analytic standpoint, extending the reals in this way can allow for interesting arithmetic! In it is perfectly OK to say that, So addition, multiplication, and division are all defined nicely. However, notice that we have some indeterminate forms here which are also undefined, So while we define certain things, we also left others undefined/indeterminate in the process! However, in the context of measure theory it is common to define as greenturtle3141 noted below. I encourage to reread what he wrote, it's great stuff! As you may notice, though, dividing by is undefined still! Is there a place where it isn't? Kind of. To do this, we can extend the complex numbers! More formally, we can define this extension as which we call the Riemann Sphere (it actually forms a sphere, pretty cool right?). As a note, means complex infinity, since we are in the complex plane now. Here's the catch: division by is allowed here! In fact, we have where and are left undefined. We also have Furthermore, we actually have some nice properties with multiplication that we didn't have before. In it holds that but and are left as undefined (unless there is an explicit need to change that somehow). One could define the projectively extended reals as we did with , by defining them as They behave in a similar way to the Riemann Sphere, with division by also being allowed with the same indeterminate forms (in addition to some other ones).
Due to excessive spam and inappropriate posts, we have locked the Prealgebra and Beginning Algebra threads.
We will either unlock these threads once we've cleaned them up or start new ones, but for now, do not start new marathon threads for these subjects. Any new marathon threads started while this announcement is up will be immediately deleted.
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jellymoop368
NMay 16, 2018
by harry1234
f(Reminder: Do not post Alcumus or class homework questions on this forum. Instructions below.)f
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Marathons!
Relays might be a better way to describe it, but these threads definitely go the distance! One person starts off by posting a problem, and the next person comes up with a solution and a new problem for another user to solve. Here's some of the frequently active marathons running in this forum:
[list][*]Algebra
[*]Prealgebra
[*]Proofs
[*]Factoring
[*]Geometry
[*]Counting & Probability
[*]Number Theory[/list]
Some of these haven't received attention in a while, but these are the main ones for their respective subjects. Rather than starting a new marathon, please give the existing ones a shot first.
Does anyone have any articles on using trigonometry to prove geometry problems (Law of Sines, Ceva's Theorem in trigonometric form,..) that they can share with me?
Thanks!
Let be a convex polygon with centroid , and let be the set of vertices of . Let be the set of triangles with vertices all in . We sort the elements of into the following three types:
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[*] (Type 1) lies in the strict interior of ; let be the set of triangles of this type.
[*] (Type 2) lies in the strict exterior of ; let be the set of triangles of this type.
[*] (Type 3) lies on the boundary of .
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For any triangle , denote by the area of . Prove that
Let be triangle with circumcenter and orthocenter . intersect again at respectively. Lines through parallel to intersects at respectively. Point such that is a parallelogram. Prove that lines and are concurrent at a point on .
Every day, I will try to post a new problem for you all to solve! If you want to post a daily problem, you can! :)
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Problems usually get harder throughout the week, so Sunday is the easiest and Saturday is the hardest!
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[quote=March 21st Problem]Alice flips a fair coin until she gets 2 heads in a row, or a tail and then a head. What is the probability that she stopped after 2 heads in a row? Express your answer as a common fraction.[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 22nd Problem]In a best out of 5 math tournament, 2 teams compete to solve math problems, with each of the teams having a 50% chance of winning each round. The tournament ends when one team wins 3 rounds. What is the probability that the tournament will end before the fifth round? Express your answer as a common fraction.[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 23rd Problem]The equations of and intersect at the point . What is the value of ?[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 24th Problem]Anthony rolls two fair six sided dice. What is the sum of all the different possible products of his rolls?[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 25th Problem]If , find the value of .[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 26th Problem]There is a group of 6 friends standing in line. However, 3 of them don't want to stand next to each other. In how many ways can they stand in line?[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 27th Problem]Two real numbers, and are chosen from 0 to 1. What is the probability that their positive difference is more than ?[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 28th Problem]What is the least possible value of the expression ?[/quote] Answer
[quote=March 29th Problem]How many integers from 1 to 2025, inclusive, contain the digit “1”?[/quote] Answer
[quote=April 3rd Problem]In families, there are children respectively. If a random child from any of the families is chosen, what is the probability that the child has siblings? Express your answer as a common fraction.[/quote] Answer
[quote=April 5th Problem]A circle with a radius of 3 units is centered at the point (0,0) on the coordinate plane. How many lattice points, points which both of the coordinates are integers, are strictly inside the circle?[/quote] Answer
[quote=April 6th Problem]If the probability that someone asks for a problem is , find the probability that out of people, exactly of them ask for a problem.[/quote] Answer
[quote=April 8th Problem]Find the value of such that .[/quote] Answer
[quote=April 9th Problem]In unit square , point lies on diagonal such that . Find the area of quadrilateral .[/quote] Answer
[quote=April 10th Problem]An function in the form has ,, and . Find the value of .[/quote] Answer
Hi! So I was playing Connect4 with my friends the other day and I wondered: how many "legal" arrangements of Connect4 can be reached at the ending position?
We assume that we do not stop the game when there is a four in a row, and we have 21 red pieces and 21 yellow pieces. We also drop the pieces one by one into a standard 7 by 6 board. We can start the game with any color piece.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connect_Four
Initial Thoughts
This problem seems easy at first; the number of arrangments is simply However, I quickly saw that some boards
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were impossible to construct by just dropping pieces one by one like a normal game.
Attempt to use one-to-one correspondences
After I realized that my Initial Thoughts weren't going to work, I tried to use one-to-one correspondences. I represented the columns as ABCDEFG from left to right and represented dropping the red/yellow pieces as a string of length 21 of these letters. This seemed to solve my problem, but new roadblocks popped up.
Roadblock 1 There is more than one way to represent a certain configuration using this correspondence. A quick example
red pieces fill all the left 3 columns, yellow pieces fill all the right 3 columns
shows that we overcount some configurations by using this method.
Roadblock 2 Even if we didn't overcount, we still need to account for the fact that the total number of A, B, C... over both of the strings have to each equal 7. The amount of cases (1 A goes to the red pieces, 6 As go to the yellow pieces,...) would be very difficult to calculate, even using a computer.
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Alright, I was thinking about why 0.999...=1 one day, and remembered something from learning calculus. Technically, subtracting 0.999... from 1 gives 0.000...0001 (infinitely many zeros). This is really close to zero, however I will denote as 0+, as it indeed is greater than 0, even by the smallest margin. Now take the differences (1-0.999...999) and add them up infinitely many times. Should it be zero? No because of the 0+, its a bit greater than 0, so adding it up infinitely many times would be greater than 0... Whats's wrong with my reasoning?