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k a May Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
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N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
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Sep 9, 2019
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Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
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Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
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Feb 27, 2007
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Iran TST Starter
M11100111001Y1R   7
N 9 minutes ago by trangbui
Source: Iran TST 2025 Test 1 Problem 1
Let \( a_n \) be a sequence of positive real numbers such that for every \( n > 2025 \), we have:
\[
a_n = \max_{1 \leq i \leq 2025} a_{n-i} - \min_{1 \leq i \leq 2025} a_{n-i}
\]Prove that there exists a natural number \( M \) such that for all \( n > M \), the following holds:
\[
a_n < \frac{1}{1404}
\]
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M11100111001Y1R
May 27, 2025
trangbui
9 minutes ago
diophantine with factorials and exponents
skellyrah   2
N an hour ago by maromex
find all positive integers $a,b,c$ such that $$ a! + 5^b = c^3 $$
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skellyrah
4 hours ago
maromex
an hour ago
A scalene triangle and nine point circle
ariopro1387   2
N an hour ago by Mysteriouxxx
Source: Iran Team selection test 2025 - P12
In a scalene triangle $ABC$, points $Y$ and $X$ lie on $AC$ and $BC$ respectively such that $BC \perp XY$. Points $Z$ and $T$ are the reflections of $X$ and $Y$ with respect to the midpoints of sides $BC$ and $AC$, respectively. Point $P$ lies on segment $ZT$ such that the circumcenter of triangle $XZP$ coincides with the circumcenter of triangle $ABC$.
Prove that the nine-point circle of triangle $ABC$ passes through the midpoint of segment $XP$.
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ariopro1387
May 27, 2025
Mysteriouxxx
an hour ago
My journey to IMO
MTA_2024   6
N 2 hours ago by Fly_into_the_sky
Note to moderators: I had no idea if this is the ideal forum for this or not, feel free to move it wherever you want ;)

Hi everyone,
I am a random 14 years old 9th grader, national olympiad winner, and silver medalist in the francophone olympiad of maths (junior section) Click here to see the test in itself.
While on paper, this might seem like a solid background (and tbh it kinda is); but I only have one problem rn: an extreme lack of preparation (You'll understand very soon just keep reading :D ).
You see, when the francophone olympiad, the national olympiad and the international kangaroo ended (and they where in the span of 4 days!!!) I've told myself :"aight, enough math, take a break till summer" (and btw, summer starts rh in July and ends in October) and from then I didn't seriously study maths.
That was until yesterday, (see, none of our senior's year students could go because the bachelor's degree exam and the IMO's dates coincide). So they replaced them with us, junior students. And suddenly, with no previous warning, I found myself at the very bottom of the IMO list of participants. And it's been months since I last "seriously" studied maths.
I'm really looking forward to this incredible journey, and potentially winning a medal :laugh: . But regardless of my results I know it'll be a fantastic journey with this very large and kind community.
Any advices or help is more than welcome <3 .Thank yall for helping me reach and surpass a ton of my goals.
Sincerely.
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MTA_2024
5 hours ago
Fly_into_the_sky
2 hours ago
Infinite number of sets with an intersection property
Drytime   7
N 3 hours ago by HHGB
Source: Romania TST 2013 Test 2 Problem 4
Let $k$ be a positive integer larger than $1$. Build an infinite set $\mathcal{A}$ of subsets of $\mathbb{N}$ having the following properties:

(a) any $k$ distinct sets of $\mathcal{A}$ have exactly one common element;
(b) any $k+1$ distinct sets of $\mathcal{A}$ have void intersection.
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Drytime
Apr 26, 2013
HHGB
3 hours ago
m^m+ n^n=k^k
parmenides51   2
N 3 hours ago by Assassino9931
Source: 2021 Ukraine NMO 11.6
Are there natural numbers $(m,n,k)$ that satisfy the equation $m^m+ n^n=k^k$ ?
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parmenides51
Apr 4, 2021
Assassino9931
3 hours ago
Find the value
sqing   14
N 3 hours ago by Yiyj
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Let $f(x)=a_6x^6+a_5x^5+a_4x^4+a_3x^3+a_2x^2+a_1x+a_0,$ $a_i\in\{-1,1\} ,i=0,1,2,\cdots,6 $ and $f(2)=-53 .$ Find the value of $f(1).$
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sqing
Jun 22, 2024
Yiyj
3 hours ago
A circle tangent to AB,AC with center J!
Noob_at_math_69_level   6
N 4 hours ago by awesomeming327.
Source: DGO 2023 Team P2
Let $\triangle{ABC}$ be a triangle with a circle $\Omega$ with center $J$ tangent to sides $AC,AB$ at $E,F$ respectively. Suppose the circle with diameter $AJ$ intersects the circumcircle of $\triangle{ABC}$ again at $T.$ $T'$ is the reflection of $T$ over $AJ$. Suppose points $X,Y$ lie on $\Omega$ such that $EX,FY$ are parallel to $BC$. Prove that: The intersection of $BX,CY$ lie on the circumcircle of $\triangle{BT'C}.$

Proposed by Dtong08math & many authors
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Noob_at_math_69_level
Dec 18, 2023
awesomeming327.
4 hours ago
Easy functional equation
fattypiggy123   15
N 5 hours ago by ariopro1387
Source: Singapore Mathematical Olympiad 2014 Problem 2
Find all functions from the reals to the reals satisfying
\[f(xf(y) + x) = xy + f(x)\]
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fattypiggy123
Jul 5, 2014
ariopro1387
5 hours ago
Very odd geo
Royal_mhyasd   1
N 6 hours ago by Royal_mhyasd
Source: own (i think)
Let $\triangle ABC$ be an acute triangle with $AC>AB>BC$ and let $H$ be its orthocenter. Let $P$ be a point on the perpendicular bisector of $AH$ such that $\angle APH=2(\angle ABC - \angle ACB)$ and $P$ and $C$ are on different sides of $AB$, $Q$ a point on the perpendicular bisector of $BH$ such that $\angle BQH = 2(\angle ACB-\angle BAC)$ and $R$ a point on the perpendicular bisector of $CH$ such that $\angle CRH=2(\angle ABC - \angle BAC)$ and $Q,R$ lie on the opposite side of $BC$ w.r.t $A$. Prove that $P,Q$ and $R$ are collinear.
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Royal_mhyasd
6 hours ago
Royal_mhyasd
6 hours ago
Calculating sum of the numbers
Sadigly   5
N 6 hours ago by aokmh3n2i2rt
Source: Azerbaijan Junior MO 2025 P4
A $3\times3$ square is filled with numbers $1;2;3...;9$.The numbers inside four $2\times2$ squares is summed,and arranged in an increasing order. Is it possible to obtain the following sequences as a result of this operation?

$\text{a)}$ $24,24,25,25$

$\text{b)}$ $20,23,26,29$
5 replies
Sadigly
May 9, 2025
aokmh3n2i2rt
6 hours ago
Swap to the symmedian
Noob_at_math_69_level   7
N 6 hours ago by awesomeming327.
Source: DGO 2023 Team P1
Let $\triangle{ABC}$ be a triangle with points $U,V$ lie on the perpendicular bisector of $BC$ such that $B,U,V,C$ lie on a circle. Suppose $UD,UE,UF$ are perpendicular to sides $BC,AC,AB$ at points $D,E,F.$ The tangent lines from points $E,F$ to the circumcircle of $\triangle{DEF}$ intersects at point $S.$ Prove that: $AV,DS$ are parallel.

Proposed by Paramizo Dicrominique
7 replies
Noob_at_math_69_level
Dec 18, 2023
awesomeming327.
6 hours ago
Find (AB * CD) / (AC * BD) & prove orthogonality of circles
Maverick   15
N Today at 5:38 PM by Ilikeminecraft
Source: IMO 1993, Day 1, Problem 2
Let $A$, $B$, $C$, $D$ be four points in the plane, with $C$ and $D$ on the same side of the line $AB$, such that $AC \cdot BD = AD \cdot BC$ and $\angle ADB = 90^{\circ}+\angle ACB$. Find the ratio
\[\frac{AB \cdot CD}{AC \cdot BD}, \]
and prove that the circumcircles of the triangles $ACD$ and $BCD$ are orthogonal. (Intersecting circles are said to be orthogonal if at either common point their tangents are perpendicuar. Thus, proving that the circumcircles of the triangles $ACD$ and $BCD$ are orthogonal is equivalent to proving that the tangents to the circumcircles of the triangles $ACD$ and $BCD$ at the point $C$ are perpendicular.)
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Maverick
Jul 13, 2004
Ilikeminecraft
Today at 5:38 PM
f(x+f(x)+f(y))=x+f(x+y)
dangerousliri   10
N Today at 4:54 PM by jasperE3
Source: FEOO, Shortlist A5
Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R}^+\rightarrow\mathbb{R}^+$ such that for any positive real numbers $x$ and $y$,
$$f(x+f(x)+f(y))=x+f(x+y)$$Proposed by Athanasios Kontogeorgis, Grecce, and Dorlir Ahmeti, Kosovo
10 replies
dangerousliri
May 31, 2020
jasperE3
Today at 4:54 PM
Fractions and reciprocals
adihaya   35
N Apr 25, 2025 by Ilikeminecraft
Source: 2013 BAMO-8 #4
For a positive integer $n>2$, consider the $n-1$ fractions $$\dfrac21, \dfrac32, \cdots, \dfrac{n}{n-1}$$The product of these fractions equals $n$, but if you reciprocate (i.e. turn upside down) some of the fractions, the product will change. Can you make the product equal 1? Find all values of $n$ for which this is possible and prove that you have found them all.
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adihaya
Feb 27, 2016
Ilikeminecraft
Apr 25, 2025
Fractions and reciprocals
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For a positive integer $n>2$, consider the $n-1$ fractions $$\dfrac21, \dfrac32, \cdots, \dfrac{n}{n-1}$$The product of these fractions equals $n$, but if you reciprocate (i.e. turn upside down) some of the fractions, the product will change. Can you make the product equal 1? Find all values of $n$ for which this is possible and prove that you have found them all.
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The answer is all perfect squares greater than $1$.
To make the product $1$, the product of the numerators should be equal to the product of the denominators. I.E, $\prod_{k=2}^{n}k(k-1)=(n-1)!^2n$ should be a perfect square. Thus $n$ should be a perfect square.
For perfect squares construct the following example:
$\prod_{i=2}^{\sqrt{n}}\frac{i-1}{i}\cdot\prod_{i=\sqrt{n}+1}^{n}\frac{i}{i-1}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}\cdot\sqrt{n}=1$.
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Maybe just my opinion, but this is a nice ez problem, with a nice idea.
I claim that all square numbers greater than $1$ satisfy.
To see that this is necessary, notice that to have that the multiply of all the fractions equal to 1, then we must have the multiply of all the fraction we have having the same denominator and numerator, which means that the product of all numerators and denominators must be a perfect square. But we know that the product is $(n-1)!^2 n$. So, $n$ must be a perfect square.

To see that this is sufficient. Notice that we have
\[ \prod_{i = 2}^{n} \frac{i}{i - 1} = n \]initially, which is a perfect square. We wanted to reverse several fractions such that the final product is $1$.
This means that we need to find several fractions which product to $\sqrt{n}$.
But this is obvious, as
\[ \prod_{i = 2}^{\sqrt{n}} \frac{i}{i - 1} = \sqrt{n} \]
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We claim that $n$ must be a square. A construction for $n=k^2$ is
\[ \left(\frac12\cdot \frac23\cdot \frac34\cdots \cdot \frac{k-1}{k} \right) \left( \frac{k+1}{k}\cdot \frac{k+2}{k+1}\cdots \cdot \frac{n}{n-1} \right) = \frac{n}{k^2}=1. \]Suppose that $n$ works. In the final list of fractions which have product 1, the product of all the numerators must equal the product of all the denominators. This means that the product of all the numbers overall must be a square. The product of all the numbers is
\[ (2\cdot 1)(3\cdot 2)\cdots (n(n-1)) = (n-1)!^2n,\]which means $n$ must be a square.
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Define a fraction as "good" if it's square root is rational, and "bad" otherwise. Observe that two good fractions multiplied together results in a good fraction and a bad and a good fraction multiplied together results in a bad fraction.

If $n = k^{2}$, we can flip the first $k-1$ fractions. If $n \neq k^{2}$, then $\frac{2}{1} \cdot\frac{3}{2}\cdot\ldots \frac{n}{n-1}$ is bad. Whenever we flip a fraction $\frac{p}{p-1} \Rightarrow \frac{p-1}{p}$, we multiply the original product by $\frac{(p-1)^{2}}{p^{2}}$, a good fraction. Then, since $1$ is a good fraction, and we start with a bad fraction, it can not be made into $1$. The only possible values of $n$ is $n = k^{2}$.
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I claim that the problem is true iff $n$ is a perfect square.

Suppose that $n = a^2$ for some positive integer $a \geq 2$. Now we can turn this expression into $1$ by simply flipping the first $a-1$ fractions.

Now, let a fraction be called a ssquare if, when written in simplest terms, the numerator and denominator are perfect squares. Note that if the $n$ is by definition, not a ssquare. Furthermore, note that with each operation it is impossible to turn a non-ssquare into a ssquare, so we are done.
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Rephrase reciprocation as multiplying a value of the form $\left( \tfrac{k}{k+1} \right)^2$ for distinct values of $1 \le k < n$.

Now it is clear that $n$ must be a square, for the product will always be $n$ times the square of a rational by telescoping. To show that this always works, simply multiply the values
\[ \left( \frac{1}{2} \right)^2 \cdot \left( \frac{2}{3} \right)^2 \cdot \dots \cdot \left( \frac{\sqrt{n}-1}{\sqrt{n}} \right)^2 = \frac1{n}\]to $n$ to obtain $1$. $\blacksquare$
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We claim the only numbers that work are perfect squares.

If $n$ is a perfect square, then we can use the construction
\[\frac{1}{2}\cdot\frac{2}{3}\dots\frac{\sqrt{n}-1}{\sqrt{n}}\cdot\frac{\sqrt{n}+1}{\sqrt{n}}\cdot\frac{\sqrt{n}+2}{\sqrt{n}+1}\dots\frac{n}{n-1}\]And it is easy to see that this works.

We now want to show that $n$ has to be a perfect square for all possible values of $n$. Assume that it is possible to reciprocate some of the fractions such that the product is equal to $n$. We divide
\[\frac{2}{1}\cdot\frac{3}{2}\dots\frac{n}{n-1}=n\]by the construction that works to get
\[\left(\frac{2}{1}\right)^{1+\epsilon_1}\cdot\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^{1+\epsilon_2}\dots\left(\frac{n}{n-2}\right)^{1+\epsilon_n}\]Where $\epsilon_i$ is either $1$ or $-1$. Then, the value of $\epsilon_i+1$ must be an even number, so $n$ must be a perfect square, as desired.
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The answer is all $n$ such that $n$ is a perfect square greater than $1$.To see this works, we can take
$$\left[\frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{2}{3} \dotsm\frac{\sqrt{n}-1}{\sqrt{n}}\right] \times \left[\frac{\sqrt{n}+1}{\sqrt{n}} \dotsm \frac{n}{n-1}\right].$$All of the first bracket simplifies to $\tfrac{1}{n}$ an the second to $n,$ and $\tfrac{1}{n} \times n = 1.$

To show this is the only solution, note the numerator $p$ has product $n!$ and the denominator $q$ has product $(n-1)!,$ so $pq = (n-1)!^2 \cdot n.$ Also note that for the value to be $1$, we must have $p=q$. Thus, because $pq= (n-1)!^2 \cdot n, $ $n$ must be a perfect square. $\blacksquare$
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The problem falls after noticing the construction.

If $n$ is perfect square, then following construction works:
$$\dfrac21, \dfrac32, \cdots, \dfrac{\sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}-1}, \dfrac{\sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}+1}, \cdots, \dfrac{n-1}{n}.$$
Now we claim that $n$ must be a perfect square.
Notice that for all $p\in\mathbb{P}$, we must have $$2\mid \nu_p(n!)+\nu_p((n-1)!),$$since otherwise for some prime, we have a number of those primes odd and thus we cannot group them into two groups having the same cardinality.
Rewriting we obtain, $$2\mid \nu_p(n)+2\nu_p((n-1)!)\implies \nu_p(n)=2k,$$hence $n$ must be a perfect square in order to form such product.
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Let $a$ be the product of the fractions not flipped and $b$ the product of the fractions which are flipped. Then we have $ab=n$ and $\tfrac{a}{b}=1$, implying $a^2=n$. Since $a$ is rational it follows that $n$ must be a perfect square. On the other hand, if $n=m^2$, we can flip $\tfrac{2}{1},\tfrac{3}{2},\ldots,\tfrac{m}{m-1}$.
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Solution. The answer is all perfect squares $> 2$. Note that the product of all the numerators and the denominators must have even powers so $n!(n-1)! = (n-1)!^2 \times n$ is a perfect square and so is $n$. The construction is to divide into $\sqrt{n}+1$ groups of $\sqrt{n}-1$ fractions and reciprocate every group except the first. Here's an example for $n = 9$.
$$\left( \frac{2}{1} \cdot \frac{3}{2} \right)\cdot \left( \frac{4}{3} \cdot \frac{5}{4} \right)^{-1}\cdot \left( \frac{6}{5} \cdot \frac{7}{6} \right)^{-1}\cdot \left( \frac{8}{7} \cdot \frac{9}{8} \right)^{-1} = 1$$
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The answer is $n=k^2$ for some positive integer $k>1$. Upon reciprocating any fraction, the product is multiplied by the perfect square of a rational number. As a result, the original product must also have been a perfect square by invariance.

Furthermore, for $n = k^2$, simply reciprocate the first $k-1$ fractions (which multiply to $k$). Then the product is multiplied by $\frac 1{n^2}$, and thus it will equal 1.
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If $n=a^2$, we flip $\frac{2}{1}$, $\frac{3}{2}$, $\dots$, $\frac{a}{a-1}$ over and our product becomes \[\underbrace{\frac{1}{a-1}}_{\text{first } a-2\text{ terms}}\cdot\underbrace{\frac{1}{a+1}}_{\text{terms }a+1\text{ to }a^2-1}\cdot\frac{a-1}{a}\cdot\frac{a+1}{a}\cdot\frac{a^2}{a^2-1}=1\]$\square$
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We claim that only positive perfect squares work. Notice that if $n$ is not a perfect square, then we have that the total product of all integers on the top and on the bottom is not a perfect square, meaning that we can never have the top and bottom divide each other out to equal $1$. Now let $n=k^2$. We now have
\[\frac{1}{2}*\frac{2}{3}*\cdots{}*\frac{k-1}{k}=\frac{1}{k}\]and
\[\frac{k+1}{k}*\frac{k+2}{k+1}*\cdots{}*\frac{k^2}{k^2-1}=k\]
Multiplying these together gives us our final product of $1$, as desired, and we are done.
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When multiplying these all out in regular order, we get $n$ as given in the problem. If we take the reciprocal of some of them, let us say that there product is $x$. This means that the total sum would turn out to be $n\cdot x^2$ which we claim to be $1$. Simplifying this, we get:
\[x=\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}.\]We also know that $x$ has to be rational meaning that $n$ has to be a perfect square which we can say is $a^2$. If we substitute this back in, we are basically saying that the original sequence is:
\[\frac21, \frac32, \cdots, \frac{a^2}{a^2-1},\]and we want a product of the reciprocal of some of these to be $\frac{1}{a}$. We know that $a<a^2$, so we can say that a possible value of $x$ could be:
\[\frac{1}{2}\cdot \frac{2}{3}\cdot \dots \frac{a-1}{a}\]\[\frac{1}{a},\]which means that $x^2\cdot n=1$.

Thus, if $n$ is a perfect square, this condition works.
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It is quite intuitive that to get a product of $1$, we need to have a product that cancels in the numerator and denominator. For these to equal the same product, $n$ would have to be the product of these - or $n=k^2$ for the product $k$, thus $n$ must be a perfect square.
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$\textbf{Claim:}$ $n$ must be a perfect square.

$\emph{Proof:}$ Let $\{t_1, t_2, \dots, t_k\}$ be a subset of $\{2, 3, \dots, n\}$ such that all the numbers of the form $\tfrac{t_i}{t_i-1}$ are reciprocated.

Notice that reciprocating a factor $a$ of $n$ gives the resulting number as $\tfrac{n}{a^2}$. Therefore, reciprocating all the numbers of the form $\tfrac{t_i}{t_i-1}$ gives our end result as
\[\frac{n}{\left(\frac{t_1}{t_1-1}\cdot\frac{t_2}{t_2-1}\cdot\dots\cdot\frac{t_k}{t_k-1}\right)^2}=1\]implying that we require
\[\frac{t_1}{t_1-1}\cdot\frac{t_2}{t_2-1}\cdot\dots\cdot\frac{t_k}{t_k-1} =\sqrt{n}.\]Since the LHS product is rational, we require the RHS to be rational as well. But $n$ is an integer, it isn't a fraction. Hence, $n$ must be a perfect square. $\square$
$\textbf{Construction:}$ Let $n=k^2$, notice that
\[\frac{k^2}{k^2-1}\cdot\frac{k+1}{k}\cdot\frac{k-1}{k-2}\cdot\frac{k-2}{k-3}\dots\frac{3}{2}\cdot\frac{2}{1}=k.\]So the answer is $\boxed{\text{all perfect squares greater than 1}}$.
$\blacksquare$

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The product is equal to $n$. To flip a fraction $\frac{m}{m+1}$, multiply by $\frac{(m+1)^2}{m^2}$. Define "perfect square" as the square of a rational number. If $n$ is not a perfect square, then multiplying by a perfect square keeps the product not a perfect square. So the product can never reach $1$, which is a perfect square. So $n$ has to be a perfect square. If $n$ is a perfect square, flipping the first $\sqrt{n}-1$ fractions results in the product being $1$.
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The answer is $n$ such that $n$ is a perfect square. This can be achieved by
$$\left( \frac{2}{1}\cdot \frac{3}{2} \cdot \dots \cdot\frac{\sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}-1} \right) \cdot \left( \frac{\sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}+1} \cdot \frac{\sqrt{n}+1}{\sqrt{n}+2} \cdot \dots \cdot \frac{n-2}{n-1}\right) \cdot \frac{n-1}{n} = 1$$Notice the product of the reciprocated fractions is $n$ if we flip a fraction $\frac{a}{b}$ we multiply by $\frac{b^{2}}{a^{2}}$ so each prime factor gets changed by a multiple of $2$ hence $n$ must be a square since $1$ is a square.
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We claim the answer is all perfect squares. A construction for $n=k^2$ is

\[ \left(\frac{1}{2}\cdot \frac{2}{3}\cdot \frac{3}{4}\cdots \cdot \frac{k-1}{k} \right) \left( \frac{k+1}{k}\cdot \frac{k+2}{k+1}\cdots \cdot \frac{n}{n-1} \right). \]
Now, we must prove that only perfect squares work. Notice that the numerator and denominator must be equal, or the product of the numerator and denominator must be a perfect square. Now, this value always stays constant throughout, so we have that

\[n!(n-1)!=n((n-1)!)^2\]
is a perfect square, implying that $n$ must be a perfect square.
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The answer is when $n$ is a perfect square greater than one.

If the product can be made into $1$, the product of the numerator and the denominator must be a square. Thus $(n-1)!\cdot n!$ is a square, so $n$ is a square. When $n$ is a square, we can flip over $\frac21,\frac32,\dots,\frac{\sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}-1}$ and win. $\blacksquare$
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The answer is all $n$ which are perfect squares. Note that the product of all the numerators must be equal to the product of all of the denominators of the fractions (after some are flipped) for the product to be $1$. Hence $1 \cdot 2^2 \cdot 3^2 \cdots (n - 1)^2 \cdot n$ must be a perfect square, so $n$ is a perfect square.

For $n = k^2$, notice that
$$\frac{k^2}{k^2 - 1} \cdot \frac{k^2 - 1}{k^2 - 2} \cdots \frac{k + 1}{k} \cdot \frac{k - 1}{k} \cdot \frac{k - 2}{k - 1} \cdots \frac{1}{2} = \frac{k^2}{k \cdot k} = 1. $$
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We claim that the answer is any square number. Let an integer which satisfies the required condition be called good.

Claim : Any $n$ such that $v_p(n)=k$ where $k$ is odd is not good
Proof : Notice that if the numerator of a certain fraction is divisible by a certain prime, the denominator is not, and vice versa. Thus, if $v_p(n!)+v_p(n-1)!$ is an odd number it is impossible to divide it by two (such that $v_p$ of the numerator is equal to the denominator - so that the final product is 1). Now, notice that when $n=p^km$ for odd $k$, and $p \nmid m$
$$v_p(2^km!) + v_p((2^km-1)!) = 2^k + (2^k - k) = 2^{k+1} - k$$Thus, if $k$ is odd $v_p(n!)+v_p(n-1)!$, is also clearly odd. Thus, all odd numbers are not good as claimed.

Now, we will show that sqaure numbers are in fact good.

Algorithm : All squares numbers $n$ are clearly good, by the following algorithm.
Simply reciprocate the first $k-1$ fractions. Thus, we obtain,
\[\frac{1}{2}\cdot \frac{2}{3} \cdots \frac{k-1}{k}\cdot \frac{k+1}{k} \cdot \frac{k+2}{k+1} \cdots \frac{k^2}{k^2-1}\]
Proof : Clearly, this product $P = \frac{k^2}{k\cdot k} = 1$, thus all squares obviously work.
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The boolean "product is the square of a rational" is invariant. Thus $n$ must be a $\boxed{\text{perfect square}}$. Our construction is to flip the first $\sqrt{n}-1$ fractions. $\blacksquare$
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Note that flipping any of the fractions is equivalent to dividing the product by a rational square, so if $n$ is a value such that the product can be $1$, then $n$ must be a perfect square $>1$. But note that all such n work; indeed, let $n = k^2$.Then we can flip the fractions $\frac{2}{1}, \cdots, \frac{k}{k-1}$. This divides the original product by $k^2 = n$, so the final product becomes $1$, which is what we wanted. $\square$
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First off, considering any prime $p$ after we flip it the $v_p$ of the numerator is equal to the $v_p$ of the denominator, hence the product of the numerator and denominator is a square, i.e: $$n! \cdot (n-1)! \text{ = square} \implies n \text{ = square}$$I claim $\boxed{\text{all squares}}$ work. We use induction. $2^2$ case is obvious. If the result is true for $k^2$, then to construct $(k+1)^2$ look at the final $2k+1$ terms because the first $k^2$ already work. Out of the last $2k+1$ terms, flip the last $k+1$. Keep the rest the same. The product of the last $2k+1$ then turns into $$\frac{k^2+k}{k^2} \cdot \frac{k^2+k}{(k+1)^2} = 1$$, done.
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We claim that all perfect squares $n \ge 4$ work.

Let the product of the fractions we wish to reciprocate be $\frac{a}{b}$ and the product of the remaining fractions be $k$. Clearly we have that:
$$k\cdot\frac{a}{b} = n  \:\:\: \text{and} \:\:\: k\cdot\frac{b}{a} = 1.$$Dividing equations yields
$$n = \left(\frac{a}{b}\right)^2$$since $n$ is an integer it must be a perfect square.

It is also easy to see that the first $\sqrt{n}-1$ terms multiply to $\sqrt{n}$, and as a result the last $n-\sqrt{n}$ terms also multiply to $\sqrt{n}.$ Reciprocate either the first $\sqrt{n}-1$ terms or last $n-\sqrt{n}$ terms and we are done. $\square$
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Suppose that we reciprocate the fractions $a_1, a_2, \cdots, a_k,$ which should obviously be distinct. Then we have that $\frac{n}{(a_1a_2 \cdots a_k)^2} = 1 \implies n = (a_1a_2 \cdots a_k)^2.$ Thus $n$ is a perfect square.

Now, we show that all perfect squares greater than $1$ work. For the construction, consider $a_1=\frac{2}{1}, a_2 = \frac{3}{2}, \cdots a_k = \frac{\sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}-1}.$
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OG! The answer is all perfect squares $n$
Construction:
Let $n=k^2$, reciprocate the fractions $$ \frac{2}{1}, \frac{3}{2} \ldots \frac{k}{k-1}$$Proof of necessity:
$$P= \frac{2}{1}* \frac{3}{2} \cdots * \frac{n}{n-1}=n$$Assume you reciprocate some of the fractions among the fractions to get 1 .
We view reciprocation of a fraction $f$ as $\frac{1}{f}=f.\frac{1}{f^2}$. Hence we are essentially multiplying $P$ by the square of some rational number.
Hence we get $Pq^2=nq^2=1 \iff n= (\frac{1}{q})^2$, where $q$ is a rational number. so $n$ is also the square of some rational number.
$n= \frac{p^2}{q^2}$ where $(p,q)=1$ and $p$ and $q$ are integers since $n$ is an integer we have that $p^2|q^2$ but we know that $gcd(p^2,q^2)=1$. Thus, $p^2=1$. Hence $n=p^2$ as desired.
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The answer is all $n=k^2$.

Let $c=p_1^{e_1}p_2^{e_2}\cdots$ be the ``prime factorization" of the product of (possibly reciprocated) fractions, where each $e_i$ is a not necessarily positive integer. Clearly, the parity of each $e_i$ is invariant no matter how we reciprocate the fractions. Because $1=p_1^0p_2^0\cdots$, we know that $n$ must be a perfect square (as the product of the fractions can equal $n$).

When $n=k^2$, it's easy to see that reciprocating the first $k-1$ fractions yields a product of $1$, as desired. $\blacksquare$
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We claim that we can do this for all $n=k^2>2$. Note that each time we flip a fraction $\frac{a}{b}$ it is equivalent to multiplying it by $\frac{b^2}{a^2}$. So this is saying that for some $S^2$ where $S \in \mathbb Q$, representing the product of all the inverses of fractions we are flipping, we have $nS^2=1 \implies n=(\frac{1}{S})^2$. Since $n \in \mathbb Z$ we must have $\frac{1}{S} \in \mathbb Z$ and thus $n$ is a perfect square.

Now we will flip every fraction up until $\frac{\sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}-1}$ and keep the rest the same. Then we have $$\frac{1}{2}\frac{2}{3}\frac{3}{4}\cdots\frac{\sqrt{n}-2}{\sqrt{n}-1}\frac{\sqrt{n}-1}{\sqrt{n}}\frac{\sqrt{n}+1}{\sqrt{n}}\cdots\frac{n}{n-1}=\frac{n}{\sqrt{n}\sqrt{n}}=1$$
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I claim that all perfect squares $n > 1$ are valid. Let $n = k^2.$ Thus, $1$ can be made from: $$\frac12 \cdot \frac23 \cdot \ldots \cdot \frac{k - 1}{k} \cdot \frac{k + 1}{k} \cdot \ldots \cdot \frac{k^2}{k^2-1} = 1$$Now, I claim that if $n$ isn't a perfect square, then it won't work. Notice that flipping a fraction $\frac c{c-1}$ will just multiply the current value by the square number $\frac{(c-1)^2}{c^2}.$ Thus, since $n$ isn't a perfect square, you can never achieve another perfect square, $1.$
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