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9 Pi or Tau
jkim0656   51
N 2 hours ago by ohiorizzler1434
Hey Aops!
Pi = Circumfrence/Diameter
Tau = Circumfrence/Radius
I have noticed a lot of sites, including Khan Academy, in support of tau over pi...
so what do you think?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/let-s-use-tau-it-s-easier-than-pi/
However i am still in support of the good ol pi :)
(btw this is my first aops poll) :-D

EDIT: 50 votes!!! :play_ball:
EDIT: 100 votes!!! :jump:
EDIT: 150 votes! :trampoline:

If u support pi pls upvote :)
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jkim0656
Friday at 1:48 PM
ohiorizzler1434
2 hours ago
Is your state listed?
Chatelet1   287
N 6 hours ago by Nioronean
Multiple states have announced their top students who will advance to the 2025 MATHCOUNTS National Competition in May:

• From Alabama: Henry Gladden of Mobile, Austin Lu of Birmingham, Jessie Shi of Vestavia, and Minlu Wang-He of Auburn.

• From Arkansas: Ryan Fan of Fayetteville, Vivek Kalyankar of Fayetteville, Evan Ning of Fayetteville and Charles Yao of Conway.

• From Connecticut: Hayden Hughes of Newtown, Ethan Shi of Riverside, Alex Svoronos of Greenwich and Elaine Zhou of Hamden.

• From the Department of Defense: Narmin Guliyeva of Ankara, Turkey; Taeyul Kim of Manana, Bahrain; Nathan Liang of Wiesbaden, Germany; and Lucas Sze of Okinawa, Japan.

• From Hawaii: Taehwan Jeon, Hilohak Kwak, Isaac Qian and Thien Tran, all from Honolulu.

• From Kansas: Haidan Anderson & Jayden Xue of Overland Park, Christopher Spencer of Manhattan, and Ruby Jiang of Lawrence.

• From Maine: Ana Kanitkar & Connor Kirkham of Falmouth, Anna McClary of Hermon and Poppy Sandin of Bar Harbor.

• From Massachusetts: Eric Huang of Acton, Shlok Mukund & Brandon Ni of Lexington, and Soham Samanta of Medford.

• From Missouri: Lucas Lai of Columbia, Kevin Shi of St. Louis, Charles Yong & Jay Zhou of Chesterfield.

• From Montana: Titus Gilder of Missoula, Otis Heggem of Billings, Kaleb Houtz of Great Falls and Evan Newcomer of Missoula.

• From Nevada: Solomon Dumont of Las Vegas, Aaron Lei of Reno, Leeoz Nebat of Henderson and Maxwell Tsai of Las Vegas.

• From New Mexico: Mark Goldman, Daniel He, Iris Huang and Patrick McArdle, all from Albuquerque.

• From New York: Derrick Chen of Great Neck, Victor Yang of Great Neck, Hanru Zhang of Jericho and Ryan Zhang of Jericho.

• From Rhode Island: Kahlan Anderson of the Wheeler School, Julian Bernhoft & Colin Hegstrom of Providence, and Theodora Watson of Barrington.

• From South Carolina: Yukai Hu of Elgin, Justin Peng of Clemson, Geonhoo Shim of Columbia, and Aaron Wang of Mount Pleasant.

• From South Dakota: Seth Chaplin & Maxwell Wang of Sioux Falls, Laukia Gundewar of Aberdeen, and Cohwen Heimann of Aberdeen.

• From Texas: Shaheem Samsudeen & Ayush Narayan of Plano, Nathan Liu of Richardson, and James Stewart of Southlake.

• From Vermont: Mohid Ali of South Burlington, Vivek Chadive of South Burlington, Joshua Kratze of St. Johnsbury and Albert Zhang of South Burlington.

• From Wisconsin: August Reeder & Lucy Chen of Fitchburg, Junhao Feng of Milwaukee, and Jiyan Singh of River Hills.

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Updated on 3/15/2025:

• From Colorado: Noah Liu, Christopher Zhu, Neo Luo, and Andrew Zhao.

• From Florida: Arnav Bhatia, Gnaneswar Peddesugari, Edwin Gao, and Rananjay Parmar.

• From Indiana: Roland Li, Hrishabh Bhowmik, Sophia Chen, and Arjun Raman.

• From Kentucky: Sri Shubhaan Vulava, Joyce Liu, Victor Gong, and Brandon Tedja.

• From Maryland: Eric Xie, Angie Zhu, Roger Huang, and Leo Su.

• From Michigan: Arnav Vunnam, Eric Jin, Akshaj Malraj, and Chaithanya Budida.

• From Minnesota: Ahmed Ilyasov, Will Masanz, Anshdeep Singh, and Branden Qiao.

• From New Jersey: Ethan Imanuel, Advait Joshi, Jay Wang, and Easton Wei.

• From North Carolina: Shivank Chintalpati, Steven Wang, Lucas Li, and Leo Hong.

• From Ohio: Henry Lu, Andy Mo, Archishmen Dey, and Caleb Tan.

• From Oregon: Sophia Han, Kevin Cheng, Garud Shah, and Ryan Zhang.
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Mar 8, 2025
Nioronean
6 hours ago
Algebra B Videos Posted
BabaLama   1
N Today at 2:48 AM by jb2015007
I could be really late on this but I just noticed that the Algebra B series videos were finished pretty recently.
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quadratics
luciazhu1105   13
N Today at 2:33 AM by Charizard_637
I really need help on quadratics and I don't know why I also kinda need a bit of help on graphing functions and finding the domain and range of them.
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Feb 14, 2025
Charizard_637
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which course should I take
GlitchyBoy   15
N Mar 13, 2025 by parnikap
Hello AOPS community,
Should I take the Mathcounts/AMC8 Advanced course over the summer or the AMC 10 Intermediate course?
I'm a 7th grader who is aiming for DHR AMC 8 and AIME qual next year as well as nats mathcounts, but sillies a lot on some stuff.
Scores:
6th grade (2023-2024 year)
Mathcounts Chapter: 33 (21/12)
Mathcounts State: 19 (11/8)
AMC 8: 12 (idk how this happened)
didn't take AMC 10
7th grade (2024-2025 year, so right now)
Mathcounts Chapter: 28 (36 w/o sillies)
Mathcounts State: a score higher than my chapter score (I cant reveal exact until April)
AMC 8: 16 (the problems were randomized cuz online)
AMC 10A: 42 (guessed too much)
AMC 10B: 58.5 (:facepalm:)
In practice AMC 8's I consistently get around 20-22, and on mock AMC 10's I get around 9-12 problems correct (so about low-mid 80s). In mock state Mathcounts I get 26-28s. Several people in my state have said I have a free nats qual next year due to all the competition graduating, but I am aiming for 34+ on state next year for insurance and to see how far I can go. I also hope to get DHR AMC 8 in 2026 and AIME, but not sure whether to take the AMC 8 advanced or AMC 10 course. Should I retake AMC 8 advanced (i took it last summer) to get really good basics or take AMC 10 course, and will the AMC 10 course help me get DHR amc8?
Thank you for your help, its greatly appreciated
please respond I'm begging.
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GlitchyBoy
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parnikap
Mar 13, 2025
which course should I take
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Hello AOPS community,
Should I take the Mathcounts/AMC8 Advanced course over the summer or the AMC 10 Intermediate course?
I'm a 7th grader who is aiming for DHR AMC 8 and AIME qual next year as well as nats mathcounts, but sillies a lot on some stuff.
Scores:
6th grade (2023-2024 year)
Mathcounts Chapter: 33 (21/12)
Mathcounts State: 19 (11/8)
AMC 8: 12 (idk how this happened)
didn't take AMC 10
7th grade (2024-2025 year, so right now)
Mathcounts Chapter: 28 (36 w/o sillies)
Mathcounts State: a score higher than my chapter score (I cant reveal exact until April)
AMC 8: 16 (the problems were randomized cuz online)
AMC 10A: 42 (guessed too much)
AMC 10B: 58.5 (:facepalm:)
In practice AMC 8's I consistently get around 20-22, and on mock AMC 10's I get around 9-12 problems correct (so about low-mid 80s). In mock state Mathcounts I get 26-28s. Several people in my state have said I have a free nats qual next year due to all the competition graduating, but I am aiming for 34+ on state next year for insurance and to see how far I can go. I also hope to get DHR AMC 8 in 2026 and AIME, but not sure whether to take the AMC 8 advanced or AMC 10 course. Should I retake AMC 8 advanced (i took it last summer) to get really good basics or take AMC 10 course, and will the AMC 10 course help me get DHR amc8?
Thank you for your help, its greatly appreciated
please respond I'm begging.
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PLEASE RESPOND
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GlitchyBoy wrote:
Hello AOPS community,
Should I take the Mathcounts/AMC8 Advanced course over the summer or the AMC 10 Intermediate course?
I'm a 7th grader who is aiming for DHR AMC 8 and AIME qual next year as well as nats mathcounts, but sillies a lot on some stuff.
Scores:
6th grade (2023-2024 year)
Mathcounts Chapter: 33 (21/12)
Mathcounts State: 19 (11/8)
AMC 8: 12 (idk how this happened)
didn't take AMC 10
7th grade (2024-2025 year, so right now)
Mathcounts Chapter: 28 (36 w/o sillies)
Mathcounts State: a score higher than my chapter score (I cant reveal exact until April)
AMC 8: 16 (the problems were randomized cuz online)
AMC 10A: 42 (guessed too much)
AMC 10B: 58.5 (:facepalm:)
In practice AMC 8's I consistently get around 20-22, and on mock AMC 10's I get around 9-12 problems correct (so about low-mid 80s). In mock state Mathcounts I get 26-28s. Several people in my state have said I have a free nats qual next year due to all the competition graduating, but I am aiming for 34+ on state next year for insurance and to see how far I can go. I also hope to get DHR AMC 8 in 2026 and AIME, but not sure whether to take the AMC 8 advanced or AMC 10 course. Should I retake AMC 8 advanced (i took it last summer) to get really good basics or take AMC 10 course, and will the AMC 10 course help me get DHR amc8?
Thank you for your help, its greatly appreciated
please respond I'm begging.

I would recommend doing intro series and the books from intro to alg a. Imo, they are far more useful than the amc10/amc8/mathcounts prep courses.
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GlitchyBoy wrote:
Hello AOPS community,
Should I take the Mathcounts/AMC8 Advanced course over the summer or the AMC 10 Intermediate course?
I'm a 7th grader who is aiming for DHR AMC 8 and AIME qual next year as well as nats mathcounts, but sillies a lot on some stuff.
Scores:
6th grade (2023-2024 year)
Mathcounts Chapter: 33 (21/12)
Mathcounts State: 19 (11/8)
AMC 8: 12 (idk how this happened)
didn't take AMC 10
7th grade (2024-2025 year, so right now)
Mathcounts Chapter: 28 (36 w/o sillies)
Mathcounts State: a score higher than my chapter score (I cant reveal exact until April)
AMC 8: 16 (the problems were randomized cuz online)
AMC 10A: 42 (guessed too much)
AMC 10B: 58.5 (:facepalm:)
In practice AMC 8's I consistently get around 20-22, and on mock AMC 10's I get around 9-12 problems correct (so about low-mid 80s). In mock state Mathcounts I get 26-28s. Several people in my state have said I have a free nats qual next year due to all the competition graduating, but I am aiming for 34+ on state next year for insurance and to see how far I can go. I also hope to get DHR AMC 8 in 2026 and AIME, but not sure whether to take the AMC 8 advanced or AMC 10 course. Should I retake AMC 8 advanced (i took it last summer) to get really good basics or take AMC 10 course, and will the AMC 10 course help me get DHR amc8?
Thank you for your help, its greatly appreciated
please respond I'm begging.
Mathcounts/AMC 8 Adv is helpful (for AMC 8 13-16 or MC Chapter 25-30), but for HR/DHR and AMC 10 AR and Mathcounts Chapter/State boost I would recommend AMC 10 Problem Series (and maybe AMC 12 series if you're willing to struggle a lot in the class)
(Credentials: AMC 8 HR, MC Chapter 37 (somehow didnt make states in MA Metronorth), AMC 10A: 81, AMC 10B: 94.5)
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dude 37 not making state is just brutal, in our chapter cutoff for state was 29 and the 9th place finisher got a 37.
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so should i take self-paced intro to c&p, and also self-paced intro to algebra b, then an intro to number theory class plus amc10 class?
or is that way too much for one summer
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GlitchyBoy wrote:
Hello AOPS community,
Should I take the Mathcounts/AMC8 Advanced course over the summer or the AMC 10 Intermediate course?
I'm a 7th grader who is aiming for DHR AMC 8 and AIME qual next year as well as nats mathcounts, but sillies a lot on some stuff.
Scores:
6th grade (2023-2024 year)
Mathcounts Chapter: 33 (21/12)
Mathcounts State: 19 (11/8)
AMC 8: 12 (idk how this happened)
didn't take AMC 10
7th grade (2024-2025 year, so right now)
Mathcounts Chapter: 28 (36 w/o sillies)
Mathcounts State: a score higher than my chapter score (I cant reveal exact until April)
AMC 8: 16 (the problems were randomized cuz online)
AMC 10A: 42 (guessed too much)
AMC 10B: 58.5 (:facepalm:)
In practice AMC 8's I consistently get around 20-22, and on mock AMC 10's I get around 9-12 problems correct (so about low-mid 80s). In mock state Mathcounts I get 26-28s. Several people in my state have said I have a free nats qual next year due to all the competition graduating, but I am aiming for 34+ on state next year for insurance and to see how far I can go. I also hope to get DHR AMC 8 in 2026 and AIME, but not sure whether to take the AMC 8 advanced or AMC 10 course. Should I retake AMC 8 advanced (i took it last summer) to get really good basics or take AMC 10 course, and will the AMC 10 course help me get DHR amc8?
Thank you for your help, its greatly appreciated
please respond I'm begging.

depends on state
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that's my state
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so should I take intro to c&p, intro to number theory, and intro to algebra b?
will those topics show up often on mathcounts/amc8/10?
and should I take the amc10 course or not?
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GlitchyBoy wrote:
Hello AOPS community,
Should I take the Mathcounts/AMC8 Advanced course over the summer or the AMC 10 Intermediate course?
I'm a 7th grader who is aiming for DHR AMC 8 and AIME qual next year as well as nats mathcounts, but sillies a lot on some stuff.
Scores:
6th grade (2023-2024 year)
Mathcounts Chapter: 33 (21/12)
Mathcounts State: 19 (11/8)
AMC 8: 12 (idk how this happened)
didn't take AMC 10
7th grade (2024-2025 year, so right now)
Mathcounts Chapter: 28 (37 w/o sillies)
Mathcounts State: a score higher than my chapter score (I cant reveal exact until April)
AMC 8: 16 (the problems were randomized cuz online)
AMC 10A: 42 (guessed too much)
AMC 10B: 58.5 (:facepalm:)
In practice AMC 8's I consistently get around 20-22, and on mock AMC 10's I get around 9-12 problems correct (so about low-mid 80s). In mock state Mathcounts I get 26-28s. Several people in my state have said I have a free nats qual next year due to all the competition graduating, but I am aiming for 34+ on state next year for insurance and to see how far I can go. I also hope to get DHR AMC 8 in 2026 and AIME, but not sure whether to take the AMC 8 advanced or AMC 10 course. Should I retake AMC 8 advanced (i took it last summer) to get really good basics or take AMC 10 course, and will the AMC 10 course help me get DHR amc8?
Thank you for your help, its greatly appreciated
please respond I'm begging.
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I used to get the same scores, but here is the things that I did:

1.) I spammed mathcount state mocks then the questions I got wrong I watched vide or did Alcumus on it.
2.)I always tried to set a goal for my score for the mock test then if I didn't reach it I redid the test and each time I tried to get a higher score, if I couldn't do that then I would just read the solutions and then learn the theorem/topics.
3.)I think that you should learn all of the AMC 10 course first because that will help you, I used Volume 1 of AOPS and along with that I used Math Competition for Middle School which gave me a borderline AIME score but I probably forgot but I think that I got a 118.5 or a 114 or something because it was a long time ago on the A
4.)Spam AMC 10 mocks and then learn the topics behind all of the questions, I would say try to answer 15 questions each test and if you can't do that then watch youtube videos on those topics, if you can do that start to answer first 18 questions/ 20 questions.
5.) Practice 1h-2h a day because I used to practice for 5 hours and it got me nowhere so study less but lock in during that time.
6.)Always make sure to do AMC 8 Final 5 to sharpen your Problem Solving skills.
Mathcounts:
I started the year of getting a 20-30 on school round but then improved all the way to 30-40 to state round:

1.) I did Mathcounts trainer STATE past level 30+
2.) I spammed mocks and did the same strategy as the amcs
3.) At Mathcounts Chapter I horribly failed so make sure not to stress and make silly mistakes
4.) Thats all
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should i grind mathcounts trainer all the way to nats 46
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should i grind mathcounts trainer all the way to nats 46

i tried that, its almost impossible to go past 40 ._.
mc trainer is not that great
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then what should i do besides amc 10 prep course + int to algebra b + int to c&p
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mock and past tests and alcumus

i dont use the aops courses tho so idk what they are
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parnikap
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sadas123 wrote:
I used to get the same scores, but here is the things that I did:

1.) I spammed mathcount state mocks then the questions I got wrong I watched vide or did Alcumus on it.
2.)I always tried to set a goal for my score for the mock test then if I didn't reach it I redid the test and each time I tried to get a higher score, if I couldn't do that then I would just read the solutions and then learn the theorem/topics.
3.)I think that you should learn all of the AMC 10 course first because that will help you, I used Volume 1 of AOPS and along with that I used Math Competition for Middle School which gave me a borderline AIME score but I probably forgot but I think that I got a 118.5 or a 114 or something because it was a long time ago on the A
4.)Spam AMC 10 mocks and then learn the topics behind all of the questions, I would say try to answer 15 questions each test and if you can't do that then watch youtube videos on those topics, if you can do that start to answer first 18 questions/ 20 questions.
5.) Practice 1h-2h a day because I used to practice for 5 hours and it got me nowhere so study less but lock in during that time.
6.)Always make sure to do AMC 8 Final 5 to sharpen your Problem Solving skills.
Mathcounts:
I started the year of getting a 20-30 on school round but then improved all the way to 30-40 to state round:

1.) I did Mathcounts trainer STATE past level 30+
2.) I spammed mocks and did the same strategy as the amcs
3.) At Mathcounts Chapter I horribly failed so make sure not to stress and make silly mistakes
4.) Thats all

feels like we all failed chapter but michael and evan clutched up for team score

however, as a reply to the original post, if there's an AMC 10 basics course, i recommend starting with that because typically the intermediate classes are pretty hard especially for people who haven't done the basics course. i actually took the mathcounts/amc8 advanced course, it was actually challenging but with help from the mods i got to finish all my homework on time and it turned out i learned a lot from that one
it really depends on your own skill level though, you might be better than me and could go ahead with amc10 courses
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