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k a June Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
Want to help AoPS remain a valuable Olympiad resource? Help us add contests to AoPS's Contest Collections.

Find instructions and a list of contests to add here: https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c40244h1064480_contests_to_add
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Sep 9, 2019
v_Enhance
Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


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The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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ZetaX
Feb 27, 2007
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May 4, 2019
"all of the stupid geo gets sent to tst 2/5" -allen wang
pikapika007   27
N a few seconds ago by HamstPan38825
Source: USA TST 2024/2
Let $ABC$ be a triangle with incenter $I$. Let segment $AI$ intersect the incircle of triangle $ABC$ at point $D$. Suppose that line $BD$ is perpendicular to line $AC$. Let $P$ be a point such that $\angle BPA = \angle PAI = 90^\circ$. Point $Q$ lies on segment $BD$ such that the circumcircle of triangle $ABQ$ is tangent to line $BI$. Point $X$ lies on line $PQ$ such that $\angle IAX = \angle XAC$. Prove that $\angle AXP = 45^\circ$.

Luke Robitaille
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pikapika007
Dec 11, 2023
HamstPan38825
a few seconds ago
Interior point of ABC
Jackson0423   2
N 8 minutes ago by Diamond-jumper76
Let D be an interior point of the acute triangle ABC with AB > AC so that ∠DAB = ∠CAD. The point E on the segment AC satisfies ∠ADE = ∠BCD, the point F on the segment AB satisfies ∠F DA = ∠DBC, and the point X on the line AC satisfies CX = BX. Let O1 and O2 be the circumcenters of the triangles ADC and EXD, respectively. Prove that the lines BC, EF, and O1O2 are concurrent
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Jackson0423
Today at 2:17 PM
Diamond-jumper76
8 minutes ago
Length Condition on Circumcenter Implies Tangency
ike.chen   43
N 18 minutes ago by reni_wee
Source: ISL 2022/G4
Let $ABC$ be an acute-angled triangle with $AC > AB$, let $O$ be its circumcentre, and let $D$ be a point on the segment $BC$. The line through $D$ perpendicular to $BC$ intersects the lines $AO, AC,$ and $AB$ at $W, X,$ and $Y,$ respectively. The circumcircles of triangles $AXY$ and $ABC$ intersect again at $Z \ne A$.
Prove that if $W \ne D$ and $OW = OD,$ then $DZ$ is tangent to the circle $AXY.$
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ike.chen
Jul 9, 2023
reni_wee
18 minutes ago
IMO ShortList 2008, Number Theory problem 2
April   41
N 23 minutes ago by shendrew7
Source: IMO ShortList 2008, Number Theory problem 2, German TST 2, P2, 2009
Let $ a_1$, $ a_2$, $ \ldots$, $ a_n$ be distinct positive integers, $ n\ge 3$. Prove that there exist distinct indices $ i$ and $ j$ such that $ a_i + a_j$ does not divide any of the numbers $ 3a_1$, $ 3a_2$, $ \ldots$, $ 3a_n$.

Proposed by Mohsen Jamaali, Iran
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Jul 9, 2009
shendrew7
23 minutes ago
Write down sum or product of two numbers
Rijul saini   1
N 25 minutes ago by YaoAOPS
Source: India IMOTC Practice Test 2 Problem 3
Suppose Alice's grimoire has the number $1$ written on the first page and $n$ empty pages. Suppose in each of the next $n$ seconds, Alice can flip to the next page, and write down the sum or product of two numbers (possibly the same) which are already written in her grimoire.

Let $F(n)$ be the largest possible number such that for any $k < F(n)$, Alice can write down the number $k$ on the last page of her grimoire. Prove that there exists a positive integer $N$ such that for all $n>N$, we have that \[n^{0.99n}\leqslant F(n)\leqslant n^{1.01n}.\]
Proposed by Rohan Goyal and Pranjal Srivastava
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Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:56 PM
YaoAOPS
25 minutes ago
Cute Geometry
EthanWYX2009   1
N 27 minutes ago by Funcshun840
In triangle \( X_AX_BX_C \), let \( X \) and \( Y \) be a pair of isogonal conjugate points. The line \( XX_A \) intersects \( X_BX_C \) at \( P \), and the line \( XY \) intersects \( X_BX_C \) at \( Q \). Let the circumcircle of \( XX_BX_C \) and the circumcircle of \( XPQ \) intersect again at \( R \) (other than \( X \)). Prove that the line \( RX \) bisects \( \angle PRX_A \).
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EthanWYX2009
Today at 2:19 PM
Funcshun840
27 minutes ago
Cheese??? - I'm definitely doing smth wrong
Sid-darth-vater   0
30 minutes ago
Source: European Girls Math Olympiad 2013/1
The problem is attached. So is my diagram which has a couple of markings on it for clarity :)

So basically, I found a solution which I am 99% confident that I am doing smth wrong, I just can't find the error. Any help would be appreciated!

We claim that triangle $BAC$ is right angled (for clarity, $<BAC = 90$). Define $S$ as a point on line $AC$ such that $SD$ is parallel to $AB$. Additionally, since $BC = DC$, $\triangle BAC \cong \triangle DSC$ meaning $<BAC = <CSD$, $AC = CS$, and $AB = SD$. Also, since $BE = AD$, by SSS, we have $\triangle BEA \cong DAS$ meaning $\angle EAB= \angle CSD$. Since $\angle EAS + \angle BAC = 180$, we have $2\angle ASD = 180$ or $\angle ASD = \angle BAC = 90$ and we are done.
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Sid-darth-vater
30 minutes ago
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IMO ShortList 2002, algebra problem 1
orl   132
N 38 minutes ago by SomeonecoolLovesMaths
Source: IMO ShortList 2002, algebra problem 1
Find all functions $f$ from the reals to the reals such that

\[f\left(f(x)+y\right)=2x+f\left(f(y)-x\right)\]

for all real $x,y$.
132 replies
orl
Sep 28, 2004
SomeonecoolLovesMaths
38 minutes ago
All good sequences are degenerate
v4913   13
N an hour ago by Jack_w
Source: EGMO 2022/3
An infinite sequence of positive integers $a_1, a_2, \dots$ is called $good$ if
(1) $a_1$ is a perfect square, and
(2) for any integer $n \ge 2$, $a_n$ is the smallest positive integer such that $$na_1 + (n-1)a_2 + \dots + 2a_{n-1} + a_n$$is a perfect square.
Prove that for any good sequence $a_1, a_2, \dots$, there exists a positive integer $k$ such that $a_n=a_k$ for all integers $n \ge k$.
(reposting because the other thread didn't get moved)
13 replies
v4913
Apr 10, 2022
Jack_w
an hour ago
One of the lines is tangent
Rijul saini   6
N an hour ago by bin_sherlo
Source: LMAO 2025 Day 2 Problem 2
Let $ABC$ be a scalene triangle with incircle $\omega$. Denote by $N$ the midpoint of arc $BAC$ in the circumcircle of $ABC$, and by $D$ the point where the $A$-excircle touches $BC$. Suppose the circumcircle of $AND$ meets $BC$ again at $P \neq D$ and intersects $\omega$ at two points $X$, $Y$.

Prove that either $PX$ or $PY$ is tangent to $\omega$.

Proposed by Sanjana Philo Chacko
6 replies
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 7:02 PM
bin_sherlo
an hour ago
Tricky coloured subgraphs
bomberdoodles   1
N an hour ago by bomberdoodles
Consider a graph with nine vertices, with the vertices labelled 1 through 9. An
edge is drawn between each pair of vertices.

Sally picks any edge of her choice, and colours that edge either red or blue. She keeps repeating
this process, choosing any uncoloured edge, and colouring that edge either red or blue.
The only rule is that she is never allowed to colour an edge either red or blue so that one
of these scenarios occurs:

(i) There exist three numbers $a, b, c$, with $1 \le a < b < c \le 9$, for which the edges $ab, bc, ac$ are
all coloured red.

(ii) There exist four numbers $p, q, r, s,$ with $1 \le p < q < r < s \le 9$, for which the edges $pq, pr,
ps, qr, qs, rs$ are all coloured blue.

For example, suppose Sally starts by choosing edges 14 and 34, and colouring both of these
edges red. Then if she picks edge 13, she must colour this edge blue, because she cannot colour
it red.

What is the maximum number of edges that Sally can colour?
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bomberdoodles
an hour ago
bomberdoodles
an hour ago
Permutation guessing game
Rijul saini   1
N an hour ago by asbodke
Source: India IMOTC Day 3 Problem 3
Let $n$ be a positive integer. Alice and Bob play the following game. Alice considers a permutation $\pi$ of the set $[n]=\{1,2, \dots, n\}$ and keeps it hidden from Bob. In a move, Bob tells Alice a permutation $\tau$ of $[n]$, and Alice tells Bob whether there exists an $i \in [n]$ such that $\tau(i)=\pi(i)$. Bob wins if he ever tells Alice the permutation $\pi$. Prove that Bob can win the game in at most $n \log_2(n) + 2025n$ moves.

Proposed by Siddharth Choppara and Shantanu Nene
1 reply
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:43 PM
asbodke
an hour ago
Tricky FE
Rijul saini   10
N an hour ago by MathematicalArceus
Source: LMAO 2025 Day 1 Problem 1
Let $\mathbb{R}$ denote the set of all real numbers. Find all functions $f : \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}$ such that
$$f(xy) + f(f(y)) = f((x + 1)f(y))$$for all real numbers $x$, $y$.

Proposed by MV Adhitya and Kanav Talwar
10 replies
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:58 PM
MathematicalArceus
an hour ago
IMO ShortList 2002, number theory problem 6
orl   32
N an hour ago by Rayvhs
Source: IMO ShortList 2002, number theory problem 6
Find all pairs of positive integers $m,n\geq3$ for which there exist infinitely many positive integers $a$ such that \[ \frac{a^m+a-1}{a^n+a^2-1}  \] is itself an integer.

Laurentiu Panaitopol, Romania
32 replies
orl
Sep 28, 2004
Rayvhs
an hour ago
IMO ShortList 2002, geometry problem 4
orl   24
N Apr 10, 2025 by Avron
Source: IMO ShortList 2002, geometry problem 4
Circles $S_1$ and $S_2$ intersect at points $P$ and $Q$. Distinct points $A_1$ and $B_1$ (not at $P$ or $Q$) are selected on $S_1$. The lines $A_1P$ and $B_1P$ meet $S_2$ again at $A_2$ and $B_2$ respectively, and the lines $A_1B_1$ and $A_2B_2$ meet at $C$. Prove that, as $A_1$ and $B_1$ vary, the circumcentres of triangles $A_1A_2C$ all lie on one fixed circle.
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orl
Sep 28, 2004
Avron
Apr 10, 2025
IMO ShortList 2002, geometry problem 4
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Circles $S_1$ and $S_2$ intersect at points $P$ and $Q$. Distinct points $A_1$ and $B_1$ (not at $P$ or $Q$) are selected on $S_1$. The lines $A_1P$ and $B_1P$ meet $S_2$ again at $A_2$ and $B_2$ respectively, and the lines $A_1B_1$ and $A_2B_2$ meet at $C$. Prove that, as $A_1$ and $B_1$ vary, the circumcentres of triangles $A_1A_2C$ all lie on one fixed circle.
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A quick angle chase reveals that $CA_1QA_2$ is cyclic, meaning that we can forget about the $B_i$'s: we're looking for the locus of the circumcenter of $A_1A_2Q$.

Since $\angle PA_iQ$ are constant angles, it means that the triangles $A_1A_2Q$ are all similar, and this means that the triangles $A_1QO$ are all similar, where $O$ is the circumcenter of $A_1A_2Q$. This means that the locus of $O$ is the image of $S_1$ through the spiral similarity of center $Q$ which turns $A_1$ into $O$. In other words, this locus is a circle, Q.E.D.

Comment: it can be shown fairly easily now, by choosing particular positions of $A_1$, the the circle is, in fact, the circumcircle of $QO_1O_2$, where $O_i$ is the center of $S_i$.
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If we regard $ A_1A_2PB_1B_2C$ as a complete quadrilateral the problem becomes trivial once we know that the circumcenters of the $ 4$ "small" triangles of the complete quadrilateral and the miquel point of this complete quadrilateral (which in this case is point $ Q$) lie on a circle. Is this a well-known fact? If so, where can I find a proof to this fact?
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Hmm. This problem did not involve the introduction of a new point other than the center of the indicated circle.

Solution

Let the centers of $S_1$ and $S_2$ be $O_1$ and $O_2$. First note the following.

\[\angle{CA_1 Q} + \angle{CA_2 Q} = \angle{QPB_2} + \angle{CA_2 A_1} +\angle{PA_2 Q} = \angle{PQB_2}+\angle{PB_2 Q} +\angle{QPB_2}=180\]
Therefore $QA_1 C A_2$ is cyclic. Let $\gamma$ and $\omega$ denote the perpendicular bisectors of $A_1 Q$ and $B_2 Q$ and let $X=\omega \cap \gamma$. Note that $X$ is the circumcenter of $QA_1 C A_2$.

Since $O_1 \in \gamma$ and $O_2 \in \omega$, we have that $\angle{O_1 X O_2}=180-\angle{A_1 Q A_2}$. However, since $Q$ is the center of the spiral similarity mapping $S_1$ to $S_2$, it follows that $\angle{O_1 Q O_2}=\angle{A_1 Q A_2}$.

This yields that $O_1 X O_2 Q$ is cyclic and since $O_1$, $O_2$ and $Q$ are fixed, that $X$ always lies on one circle.
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Actually, a similar problem to this has appeared in two different UK texts, however they were both published after 2002, so it's OK! It also reminds of this years British MO round 1 Q5, which is of the same essence, posted here. On these grounds I'm guessing this was proposed by the UK :D

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$O_1,O_2,O_3$ are the centres of $S_1,S_2$ and $\odot(A_1QA_2)$.

As previously shown, we only need to study the locus of $O_3$. $O_1O_3$ and $O_2O_3$ are perpendicular to $A_1Q$ and $A_2Q$ respectively as by definition all of $\triangle A_2QO_2,\triangle A_2QO_3,\triangle A_1QO_1,\triangle A_2QO_3$ are isosceles. Let the midpoints of $QA_1,QA_2$ be $M_1,M_2$ respectively. To show that the quadrilateral $QO_1O_2O_3$ is cyclic it suffices to prove $\angle O_2QM_2=\angle O_1QM_1$ as then it would follow $\angle QO_1M_1=\angle QO_2M_2$ if we recall the right angles $\angle M_1,\angle M_2$.

There is a fairly quick angle chase:
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But a more appealing argument is that no matter where we place $A_1$ on $S_1$, $\triangle A_1A_2Q$ has fixed angles. So if we consider the diagram, but with another $A_n$ diametrically opposite $Q$ on $S_1$ then easily $\angle A_nQA_{n+1}=\angle A_1QA_2\implies\angle O_1QO_2=\angle A_1QA_2$, since $O_1,O_2$ lie on $QA_n,QA_{n+1}$ respectively. So this rotation must leave an equal against the common $\angle A_1QA_2$, i.e. $\angle O_1QM_1=\angle M_2QO_2$. Then the locus of $O_3$ is the circumcentre of $O_1QO_2$.
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Do I feel guilty reviving a 7 year old thread? No.

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My solution:
Let's show that $O_1,Q,O_2,O$ are concyclic,where $O_1,O_2,O$ be the centers of $S_1,S_2,(A_1A_2C),$ respectively.
Let $S=OO_1\cap A_1Q$ and $T=OO_2\cap A_2Q.$
We know $\angle CA_1Q=180-\angle B_1PQ=\angle QPB_2=\angle QA_2B_2=180-\angle QA_2C\rightarrow A_1,Q,A_2,C$ are cyclic.
Then $OS\perp AQ,OT\perp QA_2\to S,Q,T,O$ are cyclic.
$Claim:$ $\angle A_1QA_2=\angle O_1QO_2.$
$Proof:$ We have $\angle QPA_2=180-\angle QPA_1=180-\frac{\angle A_1O_1Q}{2}=90+\angle O_1QA_1.$
Also we know $\angle QPA_2=180-\frac{\angle QO_2A_2}{2}=90+\angle O_2QA_2,$ then we know $\angle O_2QA_2=\angle O_1QA_1\to \angle O_1QO_2=\angle O_1QA_1+\angle A_1QO_2=\angle O_2QA_2+\angle A_1QO_2=\angle A_1QA_1.$ As desired.
Also we know
$$\angle O_1OO_2=\angle SOT=180-\angle SQT=180-\angle A_1QA_2=^{\text{Claim}}180-\angle O_1QO_2\implies O_1,QO_2,O$$are concyclic.
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Lemma: This problem is trivial.
Proof : For any $B$, by a trivial angle chase, we have $\angle A_1CA_2 = \angle A_1QA_2$, so we put the $B$ aside the picture, and focus on the locus of the circumcentre of $\Delta A_1QA_2$, as $A_1$ varies. We claim the locus is on $\omega_{O_1QO_2}$. Indeed, inverting around $Q$, the problem becomes trivial, because taking a homothety of factor $.5$ w.r.t $Q$ maps $O_1^{*} O_2^{*}$ to the $Q$-simson line of $\omega_{A_1^{*}P^{*}A_2^{*}}$, hence the desired result.

As a corollary, we have:
Lemma : 10 year or more old IMOSL problems are trivial.
(Sketch of proof is trivial, just also note that JMO P1 was 1998 G8, then trivial by induction)
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Let the centers of $S_1, S_2$ be $O_1, O_2$ resp.
Some angle chasing shows that $\angle A_1QA_2=\angle A_1QP+\angle PQA_2=\angle AB_1B_2+\angle CB_2B_1=180-\angle A_1CA_2$
$\Longrightarrow A_1CA_2Q$ is cyclic.
Thus the problem is equivalent to find the locus point of the circumcenter of $\triangle QA_1A_2$ which doesn't depend on $B_1$ so we can ignore $B_1$ in the problem.
We will prove that $O\in (O_1QO_2)$ which is a fixed circle where $O$ is the circumcenter of $\triangle QA_1A_2$.
We have
$(A_1CA_2Q)\cap S_2=A_2Q$, $(A_1CA_2Q)\cap S_1=A_1Q$
$\Longrightarrow OO_2\perp A_2Q,\ OO_1\perp A_1Q\Longrightarrow \angle O_1OO_2=180 -\angle A_1QA_2$.
But $\angle A_1QO_1=\frac{180-2\angle A_2PQ}{2}=90-\angle A_2PQ=\angle A _2QO_2\Longrightarrow \angle A_1QA_2=\angle O_1QO_2$.
$\Longrightarrow \angle O_1OO_2=180 -\angle O_1QO_2\Longrightarrow O\in (O_1QO_2)$ which is a fixed circle as desired.
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Adding an Inversive Solution. :)
ISL 2002 G4 wrote:
Circles $S_1$ and $S_2$ intersect at points $P$ and $Q$. Distinct points $A_1$ and $B_1$ (not at $P$ or $Q$) are selected on $S_1$. The lines $A_1P$ and $B_1P$ meet $S_2$ again at $A_2$ and $B_2$ respectively, and the lines $A_1B_1$ and $A_2B_2$ meet at $C$. Prove that, as $A_1$ and $B_1$ vary, the circumcentres of triangles $A_1A_2C$ all lie on one fixed circle.

Note that $$\angle AQA_2=\angle AQP+\angle PQA_2=\angle AC_1B_2+\angle B_1B_2C=180^\circ-\angle A_1QA_2\implies A,Q,A_2,C\text{ are concyclic.}$$So the Circumcenter of $\triangle A_1A_2C$ is same as the Circumcenter of $\triangle A_1QA_2$. So now we can safely delete the points $C,B_1,B_2$ from the Diagram. So, the problem can now be restated as
Reduced Problem wrote:
$\omega_1$ and $\omega_2$ are two circles and $\omega_1\cap\omega_2=\{P,Q\}$. A line through $P$ intersects $\omega_1$ and $\omega_2$ at $A_1,A_2$ respectively. Then Prove that the locus of the Circumcenters of such triangles $A_1QA_2$ is a circle.

For this Invert around $Q$ and let this map be denoted as $\Psi$. So, $\Psi:P\leftrightarrow \omega_1'\cap\omega_2'=P'$ where $\omega_1'$ and $\omega_2'$ are the Inverted Image of $\omega_1$ and $\omega_2$ respectively during this transformation $\Psi$.

We have to prove that the circles passing through $P',Q$ intersecting $\omega_1'$ and $\omega_2'$ at points $\{A_1',A_2'\}$ respectively, then the reflections of $Q$ on $A_1'A_2'$ are collinear.

Drop Perpendiculars from $Q$ onto $\omega_1'$ and $\omega_2'$, So by Simson Line we get that the Projections of $Q$ on such lines $A_1'A_2'$ are collinear, so by a Homothety at $Q$ with a scale factor of $2$ we get that the reflections of $Q$ of such lines $A_1A_2$ are also collinear, and the reflections of $Q$ on such lines $A_1A_2$ are the points where the circumcenters of such triangles $QA_1A_2$ map!

Hence Inverting back we get that the Locus of the Circumcenters of such triangles $QA_1A_2$ which are the circumcenters of $\triangle A_1A_2C$ will lie on a circle. $\blacksquare$
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What troll!
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Circles $S_1$ and $S_2$ intersect at points $P$ and $Q$. Distinct points $A_1$ and $B_1$ (not at $P$ or $Q$) are selected on $S_1$. The lines $A_1P$ and $B_1P$ meet $S_2$ again at $A_2$ and $B_2$ respectively, and the lines $A_1B_1$ and $A_2B_2$ meet at $C$. Prove that, as $A_1$ and $B_1$ vary, the circumcentres of triangles $A_1A_2C$ all lie on one fixed circle.
Let $O_1,O_2$ be center of $S_1,S_2$ respectively.We have $Q$ is the miquel point of complete quadrilateral $PB_2CA_1A_2B_1$.Hence center of $\odot{A_1A_2C}$ lies on the miquel circle $\odot{QO_1O_2}$ which is fixed.$\square$
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Easy G4.

Notice that $\angle A_1QA_2=\angle A_1B_1B_2+\angle CB_2B_1=180^{\circ}_\angle C,$ so $A_1CA_2Q$ is cyclic and the problem reduces to showing that the circumcenter of $(A_1A_2Q)$ lie on a fixed circle (the $B$'s were just a distraction!).

We finish with

Claim: Denote the center of $S_1$ by $O_1$ and that of $S_2$ by $O_2$. Then the desired circle is $(O_1QO_2)$.

Proof: Denote the midpoints of $A_1Q$ and $A_2Q$ by $M_1, M_2,$ respectively. Then the circumcenter of $\triangle A_1A_2Q$ is the intersection of the perpendicular at $M_1$ and $M_2$ to $A_1Q$ and $A_2Q$. Notice that $\angle AO_1Q=2\angle A_1PQ=180^{\circ}-\angle B_2PQ=\angle QO_2A_2,$ and this easily implies the result.

We are done.
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Obviously $Q$ is the Miquel point of $A_1CB_2P,$ and so circumcenter of $\triangle A_1A_2C$ lie on circle passing through $Q$ and centers of $S_1,S_2,$ which is fixed.
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Let $O,O_1,O_2$ be the centers of $S_1,S_2,(A_1A_2C),$ respectively. Notice that $Q$ is the Miquel point of $A_1B_1CA_2B_2P$ so $OO_1QO_2$ is cyclic. $\square$
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EGMO Ch. 11:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925784397469331477/952410078668009472/Screen_Shot_2022-03-12_at_8.37.24_PM.png

Let $O_1,O_2$ be centers of $S_1,S_2.$ Let $O$ be center of $(A_1CA_2).$ We claim that $O_1OO_2Q$ is cyclic. First, we claim that $CA_1QA_2$ is cyclic. Note that $\angle B_1A_1Q=\angle B_1PQ=\angle CA_2Q.$ This implies the claim.

Thus, $O$ is the center of $(QA_1A_2).$ Note that $OO_1$ is the perpendicular bisector of $A_1Q$ and $OO_2$ the perpendicular bisector of $A_2Q.$ Thus, $\angle OO_2Q=\frac{1}{2}\overset{\huge\frown}{QPA_2}=180^\circ-\angle QPA_2$ and $\angle OO_1Q=\frac{1}{2}\overset{\huge\frown}{QPA_1}=180^\circ-\angle A_1PQ.$ These sum to $180^\circ$ so we are done.
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Observe that $Q$ is miquel point of quad $A_1PB_2C$ which means the circumcenter of $\triangle A_1A_2C$ belongs to $\odot(Q0_1O_2)$ where $O_1$ and $O_2$ are the centres of $S_1$ and $S_2$ which are obviously fixed $\blacksquare$
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Claim: We can simply consider the circumcenter of $A_1QA_2$

Proof:

Observe that $Q$ is the miquel point of quadrilateral $A_1PB_2C$

Therefore, $Q$ lies on $(A_1A_2C)$

As such, the circumcenter of $(A_1A_2C)$= the circumcenter of $(A_1QA_2)$

Rephrased problem: the circumcenters of $(A_1A_2Q)$ lie on a circle as $A_1A_2$ varies

Claim: $\angle A_1QA_2$, $\angle A_2A_1Q$, $\angle A_1A_2Q$ remain invariant over all $A_1$,$A_2$

Proof:
Fix one $A_1$,$A_2$,

Now, suppose we take another pair, say $B_1,B_2$

Note that $Q$ is the center of the spiral sending $A_1 \rightarrow A_2$, $B_1 \rightarrow B_2$

Which implies that $\triangle A_1QA_2 \sim \triangle B_1QB_2$

Claim: If $O$ is the circumcenter of $(A_1QA_2)$, $\triangle A_1QO$ remains similar as $A_1$ varies

Proof:

Note $Q$ is the spiral center sending all $A_1 \rightarrow O$

As such, the possible positions of $O$ are simply a fixed scaling and translation from every possible position of $A_1$ with respect to the spiral center $Q$

This means that all possible positions of $O$ must cover a circle
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Viewing $CA_1PB_1$ as a complete quadrilateral, $CA_1QA_2$ is cyclic. Therefore, we can delete $C,B_1,B_2$ from the diagram and focus on the center of $(A_1A_2Q)$ as $A_1$ varies around $S_1$. As $A_1$ varies around $S_1$, $\triangle QA_1A_2$ is directly similar to a fixed triangle for spiral similarity reasons, so $\triangle QA_1O$ is directly similar to a fixed triangle as well, where $O$ is the (variable) circumcenter of $\triangle QA_1A_2$. Therefore, it suffices to prove the following "independent" lemma.

Lemma: Let $P$ be a point and suppose that $\triangle PAB$ is directly similar to a fixed triangle as $A$ varies around a circle. Then $B$ varies around a circle too.
Proof: We use complex numbers. WLOG let $p=0$. Then there exists some fixed complex number $z \neq 0$ such that $b=za$ always holds, and the rest is clear. $\blacksquare$
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We first do some angle chasing:
\begin{align*}
\angle A_1QA_2 &= \angle A_1QP + \angle PQB_2 + \angle B_2QA_2 \\
&= \angle A_1B_1P + \angle PA_2B_2 + \angle B_2PA_2 \\
&= \angle A_1B_1P + \angle A_1PB_1 + \angle A_1A_2C \\
&= \angle CA_1A_2 + \angle A_1A_2C \\
\angle A_1QA_2 &= 180^\circ - \angle A_1CA_2
\end{align*}From here, we see that $CA_1QA_2$ is a cyclic quadrilateral. Obviously, the circumcenter of $CA_1A_2$ is the same as the circumcenter of $A_1QA_2$, a point we will label as $O$.
The centers of $S_1$ and $S_2$ will be called $O_1$ and $O_2$, respectively. Now, we claim that $OO_1QO_2$ is a cyclic quadrilateral.
In order to prove this, construct the perpendicular bisectors to $A_1Q$ and $A_2Q$. Denote the midpoints of $A_1Q$ and $A_2Q$ as $M$ and $N$, respectively.
Visibly, $OMQN$ is a cyclic quadrilateral, which means that $\angle MQN + \angle MON$.
It is easy to see that the perpendicular bisector of $A_1Q$ passes through both $O_1$ and $O$, while the perpendicular bisector of $A_2Q$ passes through both $O_2$ and $O$. As a result, $\angle MON = \angle O_1OO_2$.
We finish with a short angle chase:
\begin{align*}
180^\circ &= \angle MQN + \angle MON \\
&= \angle A_1QA_2 + \angle O_1OO_2 \\
180^\circ &= \angle O_1QO_2 + O_1OO_2
\end{align*}Thus, $OO_1QO_2$ is a cyclic quadrilateral, and $O$ always lies on $(O_1QO_2)$, a fixed circle. $\blacksquare$
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Let $O$ be the circumcenter of $\triangle A_1A_2C$. Since $Q$ is the Miquel point, we have thta $Q$ is concyclic with the centers of $(A_1PB_1)$, $(A_1A_2C)$, $(B_2B_1C)$, and $(B_2PA_2)$. Since three of these points are $O_1$, $O_2$, and $O$, $O$ always lies on $(QO_1O_2)$, as desired.
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Note $Q$ is the Miquel point of $A_1 B_1 A_2 B_2$. It is a well known Miquel point property that $Q$, $O(A_1 B_1 P)$, $O(A_2 B_2 P)$, $O(A_1 A_2 C)$, and $O(B_1 B_2 C)$ are concyclic.

As the first three are fixed, the locus of $O(A_1 A_2 C)$ lies on a fixed circle. $\blacksquare$
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By Miquel, $(A_1 A_2 C)$ also passes through $Q,$ so we just need to show that as $A_1$ varies, the circumcenter of $\triangle A_1 A_2 Q$ lies on a fixed circle.
Invert at $Q$ with arbitrary radius; the problem reduces to the following:

Let $Q$ be a fixed point and $\ell_1, \ell_2$ two fixed lines in the plane which intersect at $P.$ An arbitrary circle passing through $P,Q$ intersects $\ell_1, \ell_2$ at $A_1, A_2,$ respectively. Prove that as the circle varies, the reflection $Q'$ of $Q$ over $A_1 A_2$ lies on a fixed line.

Indeed, if we reflect $Q$ over $\ell_1, \ell_2$ to obtain $Q_1, Q_2,$ the line $Q_1 Q_2$ is fixed and passes through $Q'$ by Simson, so we are done.
Remark: Interesting how I didn't use any complicated Miquel properties.
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Using directed angles. Let $O$ be the circumcenter of $A_1A_2C$ and let $O_1,O_2$ be the centers of $S_1,S_2$, we'll show that O lies on $(O_1O_2Q)$, which is fixed. First note that
\[
\angle A_1QA_2=\angle A_1QP+\angle A_2QP=\angle A_1B_1P+\angle A_2B_2P=-\angle B_1CB_2=\angle A_1CA_2
\]so $A_1A_2CQ$ is cyclic with center $O$, and $\angle A_1OA_2=\angle A_1OQ+\angle A_2OQ=2(\angle O_1OQ+\angle O_2OQ)=2\angle O_1OO_2$, but also:
\[
\angle O_1QO_2 = \angle O_1PO_2=-(\angle A_1PO_1+\angle A_2PO_2)=\angle A_1B_1P+\angle A_2B_2P=\angle A_1CA_2=\angle A_1QA_2=\frac{1}{2}\angle A_1OA_2=\angle O_1OO_2
\]and we're done.
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