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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
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k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
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Shortest cycle if sum d^2 = n^2 - n
Miquel-point   0
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Source: KoMaL B. 4218
In a graph, no vertex is connected to all of the others. For any pair of vertices not connected there is a vertex adjacent to both. The sum of the squares of the degrees of vertices is $n^2-n$ where $n$ is the number of vertices. What is the length of the shortest possible cycle in the graph?

Proposed by B. Montágh, Memphis
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Imtersecting two regular pentagons
Miquel-point   0
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Source: KoMaL B. 5093
The intersection of two congruent regular pentagons is a decagon with sides of $a_1,a_2,\ldots ,a_{10}$ in this order. Prove that
\[a_1a_3+a_3a_5+a_5a_7+a_7a_9+a_9a_1=a_2a_4+a_4a_6+a_6a_8+a_8a_{10}+a_{10}a_2.\]
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Miquel-point
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Dissecting regular heptagon in similar isosceles trapezoids
Miquel-point   0
5 minutes ago
Source: KoMaL B. 5085
Show that a regular heptagon can be dissected into a finite number of symmetrical trapezoids, all similar to each other.

Proposed by M. Laczkovich, Budapest
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Amazing projective stereometry
Miquel-point   0
7 minutes ago
Source: KoMaL B 5060
In the plane $\Sigma$, given a circle $k$ and a point $P$ in its interior, not coinciding with the center of $k$. Call a point $O$ of space, not lying on $\Sigma$, a proper projection center if there exists a plane $\Sigma'$, not passing through $O$, such that, by projecting the points of $\Sigma$ from $O$ to $\Sigma'$, the projection of $k$ is also a circle, and its center is the projection of $P$. Show that the proper projection centers lie on a circle.
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Based on IMO 2024 P2
Miquel-point   0
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Source: KoMaL B. 5461
Prove that for any positive integers $a$, $b$, $c$ and $d$ there exists infinitely many positive integers $n$ for which $a^n+bc$ and $b^{n+d}-1$ are not relatively primes.

Proposed by Géza Kós
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Proving radical axis through orthocenter
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In acute triangle $ABC$ let $D, E$ and $F$ denote the feet of the altitudes from $A, B$ and $C$, respectively. Let line $DE$ intersect circumcircle $ABC$ at points $G, H$. Similarly, let line $DF$ intersect circumcircle $ABC$ at points $I, J$. Prove that the radical axis of circles $EIJ$ and $FGH$ passes through the orthocenter of triangle $ABC$
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Hard Inequality
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Waits for Solution
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A geometry problem from the TOT
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N an hour ago by seriousPossibilist
Source: Tournament of towns Spring 2018 A-level P4
Let O be the center of the circumscribed circle of the triangle ABC. Let AH be the altitude in this triangle, and let P be the base of the perpendicular drawn from point A to the line CO. Prove that the line HP passes through the midpoint of the side AB. (6 points)

Egor Bakaev
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Special Straightedge Geo
tastymath75025   31
N an hour ago by lelouchvigeo
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Carl is given three distinct non-parallel lines $\ell_1, \ell_2, \ell_3$ and a circle $\omega$ in the plane. In addition to a normal straightedge, Carl has a special straightedge which, given a line $\ell$ and a point $P$, constructs a new line passing through $P$ parallel to $\ell$. (Carl does not have a compass.) Show that Carl can construct a triangle with circumcircle $\omega$ whose sides are parallel to $\ell_1,\ell_2,\ell_3$ in some order.

Proposed by Vincent Huang
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tastymath75025
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lelouchvigeo
an hour ago
D1032 : A general result on polynomial 2
Dattier   0
an hour ago
Source: les dattes à Dattier
Let $P \in \mathbb Q[x,y]$ with $\max(\deg_x(P),\deg_y(P)) \leq d$ and $\forall (a,b) \in \mathbb Z^2 \cap [0,d]^2, P(a,b) \in \mathbb Z$.

Is it true that $\forall (a,b) \in\mathbb Z^2, P(a,b) \in \mathbb Z$?
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Dattier
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need advice
Levieee   0
an hour ago
Suppose you're working on a problem in a test and after 30 minutes, you realize that while you made good progress initially, you're now stuck and not getting anywhere. At that point, do you try a different method, continue pushing with the same approach, or just leave it and move on to the next problem? If you move on, doesn’t it feel like the 30 minutes spent were wasted—especially if you could have used that time to finish another problem more quickly? So when is the right time to pivot? And if you’ve already invested 30–40 minutes, should you keep going or abandon it, knowing that leaving it means that time might be wasted? Plus, while working on another problem, the thought that you need to return to the previous one keeps bothering you
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Levieee
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D1031 : A general result on polynomial 1
Dattier   0
an hour ago
Source: les dattes à Dattier
Let $P(x,y) \in \mathbb Q(x,y)$ with $\forall (a,b) \in \mathbb Z^2, P(a,b) \in \mathbb Z  $.

Is it true that $P(x,y) \in \mathbb Q[x,y]$?
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Dattier
an hour ago
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Another quadrilateral in a circle
v_Enhance   111
N an hour ago by Ilikeminecraft
Source: APMO 2013, Problem 5
Let $ABCD$ be a quadrilateral inscribed in a circle $\omega$, and let $P$ be a point on the extension of $AC$ such that $PB$ and $PD$ are tangent to $\omega$. The tangent at $C$ intersects $PD$ at $Q$ and the line $AD$ at $R$. Let $E$ be the second point of intersection between $AQ$ and $\omega$. Prove that $B$, $E$, $R$ are collinear.
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v_Enhance
May 3, 2013
Ilikeminecraft
an hour ago
Problem 7
SlovEcience   3
N an hour ago by wassupevery1
Consider the sequence \((u_n)\) defined by \(u_0 = 5\) and
\[
u_{n+1} = \frac{1}{2}u_n^2 - 4 \quad \text{for all } n \in \mathbb{N}.
\]a) Prove that there exist infinitely many positive integers \(n\) such that \(u_n > 2020n\).

b) Compute
\[
\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{2u_{n+1}}{u_0u_1\cdots u_n}.
\]
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SlovEcience
Today at 11:03 AM
wassupevery1
an hour ago
Functional Equation
anantmudgal09   20
N Apr 19, 2025 by bin_sherlo
Source: India TST 2018 D1 P3
Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.
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bin_sherlo
Apr 19, 2025
Functional Equation
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Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.
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The only functions which work are the identity and the zero-function. It is clear that both satisfy the equation. Now we show any valid function that is not zero is the identity. Suppose $f(x_0) \ne 0$ for some $x_0 \in \mathbb{R}$.

If $f(0) \ne 0$ then $f(0)f(yf(0)-1)=-f(0)$ but $f \equiv -1$ is not a solution. So $f(0)=0$.

Put $x=x_0, y=0$ so $f(-1)=-1$. Put $y=x$ so $f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1$ for all $x$; hence $f$ is surjective over $(-1, \infty)$. Suppose $f(a)=0$ then $x=a, y=x_0$ implies $a=0$. So $f$ is injective at $0$.

Now $f(f(1)-1)=0$ so $f(1)=1$. Put $x=1$ to get $f(y-1)=f(y)-1$ for all $y$ so $f(y-N)=f(y)-N$ for all integers $N \ge 0$. Now $f(y)=f(y+N)-N$ so $f(y+N)=f(y)+N$ for all integers $N \ge 0$. Consequently, $f$ is surjective over all of $\mathbb{R}$.

Plug $f(yf(x)-1)=f(yf(x))-1$ to conclude $f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$. Put $y=1$ so $x^2=f(x)f(f(x))$ hence $f(yf(x))=f(y)f(f(x))$ for all $x \ne 0$. For $x=0$, last claim is obvious. Now surjectivity shows $f(ty)=f(t)f(y)$ for all $t,y \in \mathbb{R}$ so $f$ is multiplicative.

Thus, $f(z^2)=f(z)^2 \ge 0$ and $f(-z^2)=f(-1)f(z)^2=-f(z)^2 \le 0$ hence $f$ preserves the sign of the argument. Now pick $x>1$ and so $1 \ge x-\lfloor x \rfloor \ge 0$ hence $f(x-\lfloor x \rfloor) \ge 0$ and $f(x-\lfloor x \rfloor-1) \le 0$ hence $$\lfloor x \rfloor \le f(x) \le \lfloor x \rfloor+1$$so $$x-1 \le f(x) \le x+1$$for all $x>1$. Now suppose $f(t_0) \ne t_0$ for some $t_0>1$.

1. If $f(t_0)>t_0$.

Now for $y>1$ sufficiently large, $$yf(t_0)^2-2f(t_0) \le f(t_0)f(yf(t_0)-1)=t_0^2f(y)-f(t_0) \le yt_0^2+t_0^2-f(t_0)$$hence $$y \le \frac{t_0^2+f(t_0)}{f(t_0)^2-t_0^2}$$which fails as $y \rightarrow \infty$.

2. If $f(t_0)<t_0$.

Again for $y>1$ sufficiently large, $$yf(t_0)^2 \ge f(t_0)f(yf(t_0)-1)=t_0^2f(y)-f(t_0) \ge yt_0^2-t_0^2-f(t_0)$$hence $$y \le \frac{t_0^2+f(t_0)}{-f(t_0)^2+t_0^2}$$which fails as $y \rightarrow \infty$.

Finally, shifting down by large integers $N$, we obtain $f(x)=x$ for all $x \in \mathbb{R}$ as desired. $\blacksquare$
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Easy for P3 (if problems order in difficult)and simple solution.
Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion of $f(x)f(yf(x)-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x)$
$P(0,0)\to f(0)\cdot f(-1)=-f(0),$ then $1) f(0)=0,$ or $f(-1)=-1.$
$1)$ $P(x,0)\to f(x)\cdot f(-1)=-f(x).$
$1.1)$ For all $x,$ $f(x)\equiv 0,$ Indeed this solution work.
$1.2)$ $\exists a\in\mathbb{R} ,$ such that $f(a)\not= 0,$ them from $P(a,0)\to f(-1)=-1.$
$2)$ $P(-1,0)\to f(0)=0.$
Then from both condition we can get $f(0)=0,f(-1)=-1.$
Lemma: $f(a)\equiv 0 \iff a\equiv 0.$
Proof: we know $f(0)=0,$ let show $f(a)=0\to a=0.$
$P(a,-1)\to -a^2=0\to a=0.$ As desired.
From $P(1,1)\to f(1)\cdot f(f(1)-1)=0.$
$2.1)$ $f(1)=0.$
From $P(1,x)\to $ for all $x,$ $ f(x)=0,$ but $f(-1)=-1.$ contradiction.
$2.2)$ $f(1)\not= 0\to f(f(1)-1)=0.$ From lemma we get $f(1)=1.$
Then $P(1,x+1)\to f(x+1)=f(x)+1,$ (or $f(x-1)=f(x)-1.$)
Then our equation equivalent to $Q(x,y):f(x)\cdot f(yf(x))=x^2f(y).$
From $Q(x,1)\to f(x)\cdot f(f(x))=x^2.$
Also from $Q(x+1,1)\to (f(x)+1)\cdot f(f(f(x))+1)=f(x)\cdot f(f(x))+f(x)+f(f(x))+1=x^2+2x+1,$ then we get $f(f(x))=2x-f(x).$
From $f(x)\cdot f(f(x))=2x,$ use $f(f(x))=2x-f(x),$ we get $(x-f(x))^2=0.$
Then $f(x)\equiv x,$ for all $x.$ Indeed this solution work.
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Nice problem. Here's my solution: Let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion. Note that the only constant function which satisfies the given equation is the zero function. So from now on we assume that $f$ is non-constant.

CLAIM For $c \in \mathbb{R}$, we have $f(c)=0 \Leftrightarrow c=0$.

Proof: Note that we have $$P(-1,0) \Rightarrow f(-1)^2=f(0)-f(-1) \Rightarrow f(-1)(f(-1)+1)=f(0)$$Also, $$P(0,0) \Rightarrow f(0)f(-1)=-f(0) \Rightarrow f(0)=0 \text{ OR } f(-1)=-1$$If $f(0)=0$, then using the first relation, we get that either $f(-1)=0$ or $f(-1)=-1$. But, when $f(-1)=0$, we have $P(x,0) \Rightarrow f(x)=0$, which contradicts the fact that $f$ is non-constant. That means $f(0)=0$ implies $f(-1)=-1$. And, when $f(-1)=-1$, then (again from the first relation), we get $f(0)=0$. Summarizing the above, we can say that $f(0)=0$ and $f(-1)=-1$ are both true simultaneously.

Now, suppose that $f(c)=0$. Then $P(c,-1) \Rightarrow c^2f(-1)=0 \Rightarrow c=0$. $\Box$

Return to the problem at hand. Then we get $P(x,-1) \Rightarrow f(x) \cdot f(-f(x)-1)=-x^2-f(x)$

$$P(-1,f(x)) \Rightarrow -f(-f(x)-1)=f(f(x))+1 \Rightarrow f(x) \cdot f(-f(x)-1)=-f(x) \cdot (f(f(x))+1)$$$$\Rightarrow x^2+f(x)=f(x) \cdot (f(f(x))+1) \Rightarrow f(f(x)) \cdot f(x)=x^2 \text{ } (*)$$
Now, $P(1,1) \Rightarrow f(1) \cdot f(f(1)-1)=0$. Using our Claim, we get that $f(1)-1=0 \Rightarrow f(1)=1$ $($as $f(1) \neq 0)$. Then $$P(1,y) \Rightarrow f(y-1)=f(y)-1 \Rightarrow \text{ By an easy induction, }f(y+n)=f(y)+n \text{ } \forall n \in \mathbb{N}$$
Finally, Putting $x \Longrightarrow x+n$ in $(*)$, and using the above relation, we get that $$(f(f(x))+n)(f(x)+n)=x^2+2nx+n^2=f(f(x)) \cdot f(x)+2nx+n^2$$$$\Rightarrow n(f(f(x))+f(x))=2nx \Rightarrow f(f(x))+f(x)=2x \text{ } (**)$$
Using $(*)$ and $(**)$, we can easily find that $f(f(x))=f(x)=x$. Thus, our final answers are $$\boxed{f \equiv 0 \text{ AND } f(x)=x \text{ } \forall x \in \mathbb{R}}$$Now one can easily verify that these solutions actually work. Hence, done. $\blacksquare$
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I think this solution is more elementary than the others, although many parts are similar to the given above.
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Sorry for double posting, but I have a different ending after proving the claim in post #4. Here's my solution: As proved in post #4, we have $f(0)=0,f(-1)=-1$ and that $f$ is non-constant. Now, $$P(-1,y) \Rightarrow -f(-y-1)=f(y)+1 \overset{y \rightarrow -y}{\Longrightarrow} f(y-1)=-f(-y)-1$$Again, as shown in post #4, one easily gets that $f(y-1)=f(y)-1$. Thus, we have $f(-y)=-f(y)$, i.e. $f$ is odd. We will show that $f$ is injective also. Suppose we have $f(a)=f(b)$ for some $a,b \in \mathbb{R}$. Then $$P(a,-1)-P(b,-1) \Rightarrow a^2=b^2 \Rightarrow b=a \text{ OR } b=-a$$However, we cannot have $f(-a)=f(a)$, as $f$ is odd. Hence, $f$ must be injective.

Now, as $f(y-1)=f(y)-1$, so we can rewrite the problem condition as $$P(x,y):= f(x)(f(yf(x))-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x) \Rightarrow f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$$Then, $P(x,x)$ gives that $f(xf(x))=x^2$. This means that $f$ is surjective for $x>0$. But, as $f(-x)=-f(x)$, so we get that $f$ is in fact always surjective. Now, using injectivity, one can easily prove that $f(1)=1$, and so we have $$P(x,1) \Rightarrow x^2=f(x)f(f(x)) \Longrightarrow f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)=f(x)f(f(x))f(y) \Rightarrow f(yf(x))=f(f(x))f(y)$$However, as $f$ is surjective, so we can take $f(x)=z$, giving that $f$ is multiplicative also. Let $w=\frac{1}{f(x)}$ (As $f$ is surjective, so $\frac{1}{f}$ is also surjective). Then, using multiplicity, we have $$P \left(y+\frac{1}{f(x)},x \right) \Rightarrow x^2f(y+w)=f(x)f(yf(x)+1)=f(x)(f(yf(x))+1)= x^2f(y)+f(x)$$$$\Rightarrow \text{ As } x^2=f(x)f(f(x)) \text{, we get that } f(f(x))(f(y+w)-f(y))=1$$But, $f(x)=\frac{1}{w}$, and so we get $$f(y+w)-f(y)=\frac{1}{f \left(\frac{1}{w} \right)}=f(w) \Rightarrow f(y+w)=f(y)+f(w)$$where we use that $f \left(\frac{1}{w} \right) f(w)=f(1)=1$. This means that $f$ is both additive and multiplicative, in which case it is well known that $f$ must be the identity function. Hence, done. $\blacksquare$
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Nice problem. Here is my solution:
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Edit: Just realised that my solution is similar to @2above.
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Good problem. Nice solutions. Learned much.
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Nice problem :)
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$f (x)\equiv 0$ if $f (x)\neq 0$ for some $x $.

If $f (x)=f (y) $ then $x=y $ or $x=-y $
$P (0,y)\implies f (0)=0$ or $f (yf (0)-1)=-1\implies f (0)=0$
$P (x,0)\implies f (x)f (-1)=-f (x)\implies f (-1)=-1$
$P (-1,y)\implies -f(-y-1)=f (y)+1$

$\text {Restate the original equation as} $

$f (x)f (-yf (x))=x^2f (y)\implies f (x)f (f (x))=x^2$
$P (x,x): f (-xf (x))=x^2=-f (xf (-x))f (x)+f (-x)=0$
$f (y+1)=f (y)+1 f (x+1)+f (f (x+1))=(x+1)^2$
$f (x)+f (f (x))=2x $, and $f (x)=x $
Hence, $f(x)=0$ $\forall x\in\mathbb R $ and $f(x)=x $. Easy to verify.
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Bonus for a TST P3!
anantmudgal09 wrote:
Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.

Answers: $f\equiv 0 $ and $f \equiv x \ \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$.
Clearly both these functions satisfy, so we continue by proving them to be the only ones. Denote by $(x,y)$ the assertion $f(x)\cdot f(yf(x)-1) = x^2f(y)-f(x)$.
$(x,x) \implies f(x)f(xf(x)-1) = f(x)(x^2-1) ... (1)$. Now, $(0,y) \implies f \equiv 0$(which is a solution) or $f(0)=0$. Assuming $f$ to be non-constant,
take $f(0)=0$. Now suppose there exists $x_0 \neq 0 \in \mathbb{R}$ such that $f(x_0) =0$. Then, $(x_0,y) \implies x_0^2 \cdot f(y) = 0 \iff x_0 = 0$, contradiction and thus $f$ is injective at $0 \implies f(xf(x) -1) = x^2-1 \implies f$ is surjective over $[-1,\infty)$.
Now, $(x,1) \implies f(x) f(f(x)-1) = x^2 - f(x)$. We now show that $f$ is injective. Indeed, if $f(a) =f(b)$, then $a^2 = b^2$. So suppose $a+b=0$. Then we get that $$ f(af(x)-1) = f(-af(x)-1) \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$$. Using surjectivity, pick $\alpha$ such that $f(\alpha) = \frac{1}{a}$. Then we have $f(0)=f(2)$, contradiction $\implies f$ is injective. Now using similar arguments get that $f(x) = -f(-x)$ which implies $f$ is a bijection on $\mathbb{R}$. Then $(x,f(y)) \implies x^2 \cdot f(f(y)) \cdot f(y) = y^2 \cdot f(x) \cdot f(f(x))$ and using $f(1)=1$ (obtainable from $(1,1)$) we establish $f(x) f(f(x)) = x^2$ which in turn implies $f(x+1) = f(x) + 1 \forall x$ and moreover, $f(x) f(yf(x)) = x^2 f(y) = f(x)f(f(x)) f(y) \implies f$ is multiplicative $\implies f(y)f(x+1) = f(y)f(x) + f(y)f(1) \iff f(xy+y) = f(xy) + f(y) \implies f$ is Cauchy and multiplicative and thus $f$ is identity.
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Not that hard for P3
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$\clubsuit \color{magenta}{\textit{\textbf{ANS:}}}$ $f(x)=0 \quad \textrm{and} \quad f(x)=x \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}$.
$\blacklozenge \color{blue}{\textit{\textbf{Proof:}}}$ It's easy to see that these are indeed solutions to the given FE. Let $P(x,y)$ be the given assertion, we have \[P(x,0): f(x)(f(-1)+1)=x^2f(0)\]if $f(-1)\ne -1$, we will have $f(x)=cx^2$ for some real number $c$, plugging it into our FE, \[c^4x^6y^2+\ldots =c^2x^2(cx^2y-1)^2=cx^2y^2-cx^2\]which means $c=0$ and $f(x)=0$ for all real $x$. If $f(-1)=-1$, then $f(0)=0$. If there exists a real number $u$, such that $f(u)=0$, then \[P(u,x): u^2f(x)=0 \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}\]which if $f(x)\ne 0 $ for all real $x$, then $u=0$. So, $f$ is injective at $0$ and $f$ is not the zero function. Then, \[P(x,x): f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1 \quad \forall x\ne 0\]but since $f(0)=0$, $ f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1 \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}$. Now, by comparing $P(x, 1)$ and $P(1,f(x))$, we have \[\frac{x^2-f(x)}{f(x)}=f(f(x))-1 \implies f(x)f(f(x))=x^2 \quad \forall x\ne 0\]but again $f(0)=0$, so this also holds for all real $x$. Plugging this back to our original FE, we have \[P(x,y):f(yf(x)-1)=f(f(x))f(y)-1\]and \[P(1,x+1): f(x+1)=f(x)+1.\]Most importantly, $f$ is odd since \[P(-1,x): f(-x)-1=f(-x-1)=-f(x)-1 \implies f(-x)=-f(x) \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}.\]Therefore, since $f$ is odd and $f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1$, $f$ is surjective over $\mathbb{R}$. This means \[P(x,f(y)): f(f(x)f(y))=f(f(x))f((y)) \implies f(xy)=f(x)f(y)\]$f$ is multiplicative and in particular, $f(x^2)=f(x)^2$. Finally, as \[\begin{cases} f(x+1)=f(x)+1 \\ f(x^2)=f(x)^2, \end{cases}\]this implies $f(x)=x$ (it's a well-known FE). $\quad \blacksquare$
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anantmudgal09 wrote:
Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.
Easy, but nice.
Let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion. $f \equiv 0$ is obviously a solution. Henceforth, assume that $f \not \equiv 0$. Now $$P(1,1): f(1)f(f(1)-1)=0 \implies \exists c \quad \text{such that} f(c)=0$$$$P(c,y): c^2f(y)=0$$since $f \not \equiv 0$, we conclude that $f(t)=0 \iff t=0$. So $f(1)-1=0 \implies f(1)=1$. Observe that $$P(x,1): f(f(x)-1)= \frac{x^2}{f(x)}-1 \quad (i)$$and $$P(1,f(x)): f(f(x)-1)=f(f(x))-1 \quad (ii)$$On comparing $(i)$ and $(ii)$ we have that $f(x)f(f(x))=x^2 \forall x \in \mathbb{R} \quad (iii)$. Now note that for all $x\not = 1,-1$ $$P(x,x): f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1 \implies f(x^2-1)=f(f(xf(x)-1))=\frac{(xf(x)-1)^2}{f(xf(x)-1)}=\frac{(xf(x)-1)^2}{x^2-1} (iv)$$$$P(f(x),f(x)): f(f(x)f(f(x))-1)= f(x)^2-1 \overset{\text{using} (iii)}{\implies} f(x)^2-1=f(x^2-1)= \frac{(xf(x)-1)^2}{x^2-1}$$Upon simplification, the above result is equivalent to $(f(x)-x)^2=0 \implies f(x)=x$. Also $P(x,0): f(-1)=-1$. Hence we have two solutions, i.e.
$$f(x)=x \quad \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$$$$f(x)=0 \quad \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$$Hence, we are done.
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$\boxed{f(x)=0}$ works. Assume now that $\exists j:f(j)\ne0$.

$P(1,1)\Rightarrow f(1)f(f(1)-1)=0\Rightarrow\exists k:f(k)=0$
$P(k,j)\Rightarrow k^2f(j)=0\Rightarrow k=0$ (injectivity at $0$)

Either $f(1)=0$ or $f(f(1)-1)=0$. If $f(1)=0$ then $1=0$, absurd, thus $f(1)-1=0\Rightarrow f(1)=1$.

$P(1,x+1)\Rightarrow f(x+1)=f(x)+1$
The assertion becomes $Q(x,y):f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$.
$Q(x,1)\Rightarrow f(x)f(f(x))=x^2$
$Q(x+1,1)\Rightarrow f(x)+f(f(x))=2x$
So $f(f(x))=2x-f(x)$, thus $f(x)(2x-f(x))=x^2$, which factors as $(x-f(x))^2=0$, hence $\boxed{f(x)=x}$, which is the only remaining solution.
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Solution
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Hello, the equation in hand is f (x) f (y f(x) - 1) = x ^ 2 f (y) - f (x)
Assume there is some other function since f (x) =0
x = y = 0 => f (0) f (-1) = -f (0) => f(0) = 0 /f(-1) = -1
Taking f (0) = 0 and substitute y = 0
=> f (-1) = -1
Taking f (-1) = -1 and substitute y = 0
=> f (0) = 0
This proves that both statements provided before are equivalent
Considering that there exists an a which is not equal to 0 such that f (a) = 0,
Substituting x = a and y = -1. This will eliminate the case.
Substituting P (x, y)
P (-1, y) => -f (-y -1) = f(y) + 1 => f (y-1) = -f (-y) -1


Now substitute this in the original equation available to get
F (x) f (f (x)) = x^2
P(1, 1)
f(1) f (f(1) -1) = 0
f(1) = 1
Then, P (1,y) = f; This is an odd function

Use f (x +1) = f(x) +1 to get rid of the 1


Put x = x + 1, y = 1 to get
F (f(x)) = 2 x - f (x)

Now substitute f (x) f (f(x)) = x ^2 with f (f (x)) = 2x - f (x)
(f(x) - x) ^ 2 = 0
f(x) = x


Working functions: f (x) = 0 and f (x) =x
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We will prove that $f\equiv0$ and $f(x)=x$ are the only solutions.
Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion in $f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x)$.
It can be easily seen that the only constant function that works is $\boxed{f \equiv 0}$, which is our first solution.
Let $f$ be non-constant.
Claim 1 : $f(0)=0$.
Proof :
$P(0,y) : f(0)f(yf(0)-1)=-f(0)$
Assume possible $f(0)\neq0$.
Then, $f(yf(0)-1)=-1$.
As $f(0)\neq0$, as we vary $y$ over $\mathbb{R}$, $yf(0)-1$ also varies over $\mathbb{R}$.
Hence, $f(x)=-1 \forall x $.But $f\equiv-1$ doesn't satisfy given equation.
Contradiction!
Hence proved claim 1!
Claim 2 : $f$ injective.
Proof :
Let $f(a)=f(b)$.
Let $c$ be such that $f(c)\neq0$.
$P(a,c)-P(b,c) : a^2=b^2 \implies a = \pm b$.
Hence, $f(a)=f(b) \implies a= \pm b ...(1)$.
Assume that $a=-b$ ($a,b \neq 0$) is possible.
$P(c,a)-P(c,b) : f(af(c)-1)=f(bf(c)-1) \overset{(1)}{\implies} af(c)-1= \pm (bf(c)-1) \overset{a=-b}{\implies} af(c)-1= \pm (-af(c)-1)$.
If $af(c)-1=-af(c)-1$, we get $a=0$. Contradiction.
If $af(c)-1=-(-af(c)-1)$, we get $-1=1$. Contradiction!
Hence, if $f(a)=f(b)$, $a=-b$ is not possible.
Combining with $(1)$, we get $f(a)=f(b)\implies a=b$.
Hence proved claim 2!

Hence note that , $f(x) \neq 0 \forall x\neq 0$.
Claim 3 : $f(1)=1$.
Proof :
$P(1,1) : f(1)\cdot f(f(1)-1)=0 \implies f(f(1)-1)=0 \implies f(1)-1=0 \implies f(1)=1$.
(Here we used claim 1 and claim 2)
Hence Proved claim 3!
Claim 4 : $f(-1)=-1$.
Proof :
$P(x,0) : f(x)f(-1)=-f(x) \implies f(-1)=-1$. (Here we used claim 1 and claim 2)
Hence proved claim 4!
Claim 5 : The given equation reduces to $f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$.
Proof :
$P(1,y) : f(y-1)=f(y)-1...(2)$. (Here we used claim 3)
$y\rightarrow yf(x) : f(yf(x)-1)=f(yf(x))-1$.
Substituting this in given equation, we get $$f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$$.
Hence proved claim 4!

Let $R(x,y)$ be the assertion in $f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$.
Claim 6 : $f(x+1)=f(x)+1$ and $f(x^2)=f(x)^2$.
Proof :
$(2) : f(y)=f(y-1)+1 \implies f(y+1)=f(y)+1$.

$R(f(x),f(x)) : f(f(x)f(f(x)))=f(x)^2$.
$R(x,1) : f(x)f(f(x))=x^2 \implies f(f(x)f(f(x))=f(x^2)$.
Hence, $f(x)^2=f(x^2)$ (From last two equations).
Hence proved claim 6!
From claim 6, its well-known that ${f(x)=x}$ is the solution.
$\boxed{f(x)=x}$ indeed works and is our second solution!
Hence, we are done :D
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Let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion.

$P(0,x): f(0)f(xf(0)-1)=-f(0)$.

So either $f(0)=0$ or $f(xf(0)-1)=-1$ for any $x$. If $f(0)\ne 0$, then $xf(0)-1$ can take on any real value, which implies $f\equiv -1$, which is not a solution. Thus, we have $f(0)=0$.

Now, noting $\boxed{f\equiv 0}$ works, we can assume $f$ is non-constant.

Claim: $f$ is injective.
Proof: Suppose $f(a)=f(b)$ with $a\ne b$.

$P(a,x): f(a)f(xf(a)-1)=a^2f(x)-f(a)$.

$P(b,x): f(b)f(xf(b)-1)=b^2f(x)-f(b)$.

This implies $a^2f(x)=b^2f(x)$. If we set $x$ such that $f(x)\ne 0$, then $a^2=b^2\implies a=\pm b\implies a=-b$, since $a\ne b$. Then $f(a)=f(-a)$. In fact, this implies $f$ is injective at $0$.

$P(a,-a): f(a)f(-af(a)-1)=a^2f(a)-f(a)$.

$P(-a,a): f(a)f(af(a)-1)=a^2f(a)-f(a)$.

If $f(a)\ne 0$, then we have $f(-af(a)-1)=f(af(a)-1)$. However, this implies either $af(a)+1=af(a)-1$, or $-af(a)-1=af(a)-1$, both are absurd. So $f(a)\ne f(-a)$.

If $f(a)=0$, then $a=0$.

Since $f$ is injective at $0$, $f$ is injective. $\blacksquare$

$P(x,0): f(x)f(-1)=-f(x)$. If we set $x\ne 0$, then we get $f(-1)=-1$.

$P(1,1): f(1)f(f(1)-1)=0$, so $f(1)=1$.

$P(1,x): f(x-1)=f(x)-1\implies f(x+1)=f(x)+1$.

Now we rearrange the FE.

We have $f(x)(f(yf(x))-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x)$, so \[f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)\]
Let $Q(x,y)$ be the assertion here.

$Q(x,1): f(x)f(f(x))=x^2\implies f(f(x))=\frac{x^2}{f(x)}$.

$P(x+1,1): (f(x)+1)f(f(x))=(x+1)^2-f(x)-1=x^2+2x-f(x)\implies f(f(x))=\frac{x^2+2x-f(x)}{f(x)+1}$.

This implies\begin{align*}
\frac{x^2}{f(x)}=\frac{x^2+2x-f(x)}{f(x)+1} \\
\implies x^2(f(x)+1)=f(x)(x^2+2x-f(x)) \\
\implies x^2f(x)+x^2=x^2f(x)+2xf(x)-f(x)^2 \\
\implies x^2=2xf(x)-f(x)^2 \\
\implies f(x)^2-2xf(x)+x^2=0 \\
\implies (f(x)-x)^2=0 \\
\implies \boxed{f(x)=x} \\
\end{align*}which clearly works.
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The answer is $f(x)=x$ and $f \equiv 0$ only, which both work. Hence suppose $f \not \equiv 0$. Let $P(x,y)$ denote the assertion.

From $P(x,0)$ we have $f(x)(f(-1)+1)=x^2f(0)$. If $f(-1)+1 \neq 0$, then $f(x)=cx^2$ for some nonzero constant $c \in \mathbb{R}$. But this clearly doesn't work, so $f(-1)=-1$ and thus $f(0)=0$. Then from $P(-1,y)$ we obtain $f(-y-1)=-f(y)-1$.

If $f(x)=0$ for some $x$, by picking $y$ such that $f(y) \neq 0$ we find that $x=0$. Then for $x \neq 0$, $P(x,x)$ gives $f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1$, hence the range of $f$ contains $(-1,\infty)$. Since $f(-y-1)=-f(y)-1$, the range of $f$ also contains $(-\infty,1)-1$, so $f$ is surjective. Additionally, $P(-1,-1)$ implies $f(-2)=-2$, hence $-f(1)-1=f(-2) \implies f(1)=1$.

Using $f(-y-1)=-f(y)-1$, from $P(x,-1)$ we obtain $f(x)(f(-f(x)-1)+1)=-x^2 \implies f(x)f(f(x))=x^2$. Thus we can rewrite the assertion as $f(yf(x)-1)=f(f(x))f(y)$. From surjectivity, this becomes $f(xy-1)=f(x)f(y)-1$. Comparing $(x,y)$ with $(xy,1)$ and using $f(1)=1$ implies that $f$ is multiplicative. On the other hand, by plugging in $y=1$ we also get $f(x-1)=f(x)-1$.

Since $f$ is multiplicative, we have $f(x^2)=f(x)^2>0$ for all $x>0$, hence $f$ sends positive reals to positive reals. Thus let $g(x)=\log f(e^x)$ sending real numbers to real numbers, so $g$ is additive (by only considering the multiplicativity of $f$ over $\mathbb{R}^+$). On the other hand, $f(x-1)=f(x)-1$ implies that $f(x)>1$ for $x>1$, hence $g(x)>0$ for $x>0$. Therefore $g$ is linear, so $f(x)=x^k$ for some $k \in \mathbb{R}$. Then we have $2^k-1=1$, hence $k=1$ and $f(x)=x$ as desired. $\blacksquare$
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\[f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x)\]Answers are $f(x)=x$ and $f\equiv 0$. Suppose that $f$ is non-constant. Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion.
Claim: $f(a)=\iff a=0$.
Proof: $P(0,y)$ gives $f(0)(f(yf(0)-1)+1)=0$ thus, we get the result.
Claim: $f(x)+f(-1-x)=-1$.
Proof: $P(x,0)$ yields $f(-1)=-1$ and $P(-1,y)$ implies $f(-y-1)+f(y)=-1$.
\[f(x)f(-yf(x))-f(x)=f(x)(f(-yf(x))-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x)\implies -f(x)f(-yf(x))=x^2f(y)\]Claim: $f$ is injective and odd.
Proof: If $f(a)=f(b)$ where $a\neq b$, then comparing $P(a,y)$ and $P(b,y)$ gives $a^2=b^2$ hence $f(a)=f(-a)$. $P(x,a)$ and $P(x,-a)$ imply $f(af(x))=f(-af(x))$. Since $P(x,x)$ yields $f(-xf(x))=-x^2$, $f$ gets each negative real value hence $f(-ax)=f(ax)$ which is equavilent $f$ to be even. However, this requires $-1=f(x)+f(-1-x)=f(x)+f(x+1)$ and since $f(-1)=-1$, we must have $f(-2)=0$ which is impossible. Also $f(-xf(x))=-x^2=f(xf(-x))$ hence $f(x)=-f(-x)$.
Claim: $f$ is multiplicative.
Proof: Note that we have $f(x)f(y)=x^2f(\frac{y}{f(x)})$. By $P(xf(x),y)$ we get $f(y)=f(x)^2f(\frac{y}{x^2})$ or $f(x^2y)=f(x)^2f(y)$. Since $y=1$ gives $f(x^2)=f(x)^2$, notice that $f(x^2y)=f(x^2)f(y)$ and since $f$ is odd, $f$ is also multiplicative.
The Finish: $f(x)f(y)=x^2f(\frac{y}{f(x)})=x^2f(y)f(\frac{1}{f(x)})$ or $f(x)=x^2f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{x^2}{f(x)}$ or $f(x)^2=x^2$. Thus, $f(x)=\pm x$. If $f(t)=-t$, then $-t+f(-1-t)=f(t)+f(-1-t)=-1$ but $t-1=f(-t-1)\in \{t+1,-t-1\}$ is impossible unless $t=0$ which is meaningless. Hence $f(x)=x$ as desired.$\blacksquare$
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