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k a May Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
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k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
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That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
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Minimal number of divisors
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Let $n$ be a positive integer greater or equal to $2$ and let $a_1$, $a_2$, ..., $a_n$ be a sequence of non-negative real numbers. Find the maximum value of $3(a_1  + a_2 + \cdots + a_n) - (a_1^2 + a_2^2 + \cdots + a_n^2) - a_1a_2  \cdots a_n$ in terms of $n$.

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N an hour ago by lakshya2009
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We are given a positive integer $s \ge 2$. For each positive integer $k$, we define its twist $k’$ as follows: write $k$ as $as+b$, where $a, b$ are non-negative integers and $b < s$, then $k’ = bs+a$. For the positive integer $n$, consider the infinite sequence $d_1, d_2, \dots$ where $d_1=n$ and $d_{i+1}$ is the twist of $d_i$ for each positive integer $i$.
Prove that this sequence contains $1$ if and only if the remainder when $n$ is divided by $s^2-1$ is either $1$ or $s$.
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In the number series $1,9,9,9,8,...,$ every next number (from the fifth number) is the unit number of the sum of the four numbers preceding it. Is there any cases that we get the numbers $1234$ and $5678$ in this series?
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Three concurrent circles
jayme   4
N 2 hours ago by jayme
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Dear Mathlinkers,

1. ABC a triangle
2. 0 the circumcircle
3. Tb, Tc the tangents to 0 wrt. B, C
4. D the point of intersection of Tb and Tc
5. B', C' the symmetrics of B, C wrt AC, AB
6. 1b, 1c the circumcircles of the triangles BB'D, CC'D.

Prove : 1b, 1c and 0 are concurrents.

Sincerely
Jean-Louis
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In convex quadrilateral $ABCD$, the diagonals $AC$ and $BD$ meet at the point $P$. We know that $\angle DAC = 90^o$ and $2 \angle ADB = \angle ACB$. If we have $ \angle DBC + 2 \angle ADC = 180^o$ prove that $2AP = BP$.

Proposed by Iman Maghsoudi
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Let $P \in \mathbb Q[x,y]$ with $\max(\deg_x(P),\deg_y(P)) \leq d$ and $\forall (a,b) \in \mathbb Z^2 \cap [0,d]^2, P(a,b) \in \mathbb Z$.

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\]and determine all such triples $(a, b, c)$ where the equality holds.
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Coaxal circles
jayme   8
N Jul 29, 2018 by topccder
Dear Mathlinkers,

1. ABC a triangle
2. P a point
3. A’B’C’ the P-cevian triangle
4. Q the pivot point wrt ABC and A’, B’, C’
5. (1), (2), (3) the circumcircles wrt to AA’Q, BB’Q, CC’Q.

Prove : (1), (2) and (3) are coaxal.

Sincerely
Jean-Louis
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jayme
Oct 13, 2014
topccder
Jul 29, 2018
Coaxal circles
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Dear Mathlinkers,

1. ABC a triangle
2. P a point
3. A’B’C’ the P-cevian triangle
4. Q the pivot point wrt ABC and A’, B’, C’
5. (1), (2), (3) the circumcircles wrt to AA’Q, BB’Q, CC’Q.

Prove : (1), (2) and (3) are coaxal.

Sincerely
Jean-Louis
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Can you explain please, what is exactly Q?
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Dear Mathlinkers,
Q is the point of concurs of the circles (AB'C'), (BC'A') and (CA'B')...

Sincerely
Jean-Louis
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Let $\tau_a,\tau_b,\tau_c$ denote the radical axes of the circumcircle $(O)$ of $\triangle ABC$ with $\odot(AB'C'),$ $\odot(BC'A'),$ $\odot(CA'B'),$ resp. $\tau_b,\tau_c$ and $QA'$ are pairwise radical axes of $(O),\odot(BC'A')$ and $\odot(CA'B')$ concurring at their radical center $X$ and similarly we have $Y \equiv \tau_c \cap \tau_a \cap QB'$ and $Z \equiv \tau_a \cap \tau_b\cap QC'.$ Hence if $AX,BY,CZ$ cut $(O)$ again at $U,V,W,$ we have $XU \cdot XA=XQ \cdot XA'$ $\Longrightarrow$ $U \in \odot(AQA')$ and similarly $V \in \odot(BQB')$ and $W \in \odot(CQC').$

Since $AA',BB',CC'$ concur at $P$ and $XA',YB',ZC'$ concur at $Q,$ then by Cevian Nest Theorem, $AX \equiv AU,$ $BY \equiv BV$ and $CZ \equiv CW$ concur at a point $R.$ Thus, $\odot(AQA'),$ $\odot(BQB')$ and $\odot(CQC')$ are coaxal with common radical axis $QR.$
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We prove the stronger result as following :

Given a $ \triangle ABC $ and a point $ P $. Let $ \triangle DEF $ be the cevian triangle of $ P $ WRT $ \triangle ABC $ and let $ Q $ be the Miquel point of $ D, $ $ E, $ $ F $ WRT $ \triangle ABC $. Then $ \odot (AQD), $ $ \odot (BQE), $ $ \odot (CQF) $ are coaxial and the second intersection of these three circles is the isogonal conjugate (WRT $ \triangle ABC $) of the antigonal conjugate of $ P $ WRT $ \triangle ABC $.

Proof : Let $ X $ be the Miquel point of the complete quadrilateral $ \{CA, AB, BP, CP\} $ (define $ Y, $ $ Z $ similarly). Since $ X $ is the center of the spiral similarity of $ BF $ $ \mapsto $ $ EC $ and $ FA $ $ \mapsto $ $ PE $, so we get $ XB $ $ \cdot $ $ XC $ $ = $ $ XE $ $ \cdot $ $ XF $ $ = $ $ XA $ $ \cdot $ $ XP $ and $ \angle CXB, $ $ \angle EXF, $ $ \angle PXA $ share the same angle bisector $ \ell $, hence if $ \Psi_X $ is the Inversion with center $ X $ and factor $ XB $ $ \cdot $ $ XC $ followed by the reflection in $ \ell $ then $ (B,C), $ $ (E,F), $ $ (A,P) $ is the image of each other under $ \Psi_X $. From $ Y $ $ \in $ $ \odot (APF) $ and $ \odot (BCF) $ we get $ \Psi_X(Y) $ $ \in $ $ \odot (PAE) $ and $ \odot (CBE) $, so $ \Psi_X(Y) $ coincide with $ Z $. i.e. $ \Psi_X $ also maps $ Y, $ $ Z $ to each other

Let $ W $ $ \equiv $ $ \odot (CAY) $ $ \cap $ $ \odot (ABZ) $. Since $ \odot (CAY), $ $ \odot (ABZ) $ is the image of $ \odot (BPZ), $ $ \odot (PCY) $, respectively under $ \Psi_X $, so $ W $ is the image of $ D $ under $ \Psi_X $ $ \Longrightarrow $ $ \triangle XDC $ $ \stackrel{+}{\sim} $ $ \triangle XBW $, hence we get $ \measuredangle XCB $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle XWB $ $ \Longrightarrow $ $ W $ lies on $ \odot (BCX) $. Furthermore, from $ \triangle XDP $ $ \stackrel{+}{\sim} $ $ \triangle XAW $ we get $ \measuredangle XPA $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle XWA $, so $ W $ $ \in $ $ \odot (APX) $. Analogously, we can prove $ W $ lies on $ \odot (BPY) $ and $ \odot (CPZ) $, so we conclude that $ \odot (BCX), $ $ \odot (CAY), $ $ \odot (ABZ), $ $ \odot (APX), $ $ \odot (BPY), $ $ \odot (CPZ) $ have a common point $ W $. ...... $ (\bigstar) $

Let $ \Phi_W $ be the Inversion with center $ W $. From $ (\bigstar) $ we get $ \triangle \Phi_W(X)\Phi_W(Y)\Phi_W(Z) $ is the cevian triangle of $ \Phi_W(P) $ WRT $ \triangle \Phi_W(A)\Phi_W(B)\Phi_W(C) $. Since $ D $ lies on $ \odot (CAZ) $ and $ \odot (ABY) $, so $ \Phi_W(D) $ lies on $ \odot (\Phi_W(C)\Phi_W(A)\Phi_W(Z))$ and $ \odot (\Phi_W(A)\Phi_W(B)\Phi_W(Y)) $, hence $ \Phi_W(D) $ is the Miquel point of the complete quadrilateral with the sides $ \Phi_W(C)\Phi_W(A), $ $ \Phi_W(A)\Phi_W(B), $ $ \Phi_W(B)\Phi_W(P), $ $ \Phi_W(C)\Phi_W(P) $ (similar discussion for $ \Phi_W(E), $ $ \Phi_W(F) $).

From Three concurrent radical axes $ \Longrightarrow $ $ \Phi_W(B)\Phi_W(F), $ $ \Phi_W(C)\Phi_W(E), $ $ \Phi_W(P)\Phi_W(D) $ are concurrent (at the isogonal conjugate of the complement (WRT $ \triangle \Phi_W(B)\Phi_W(P)\Phi_W(C) $) of $ \Phi_W(A) $ WRT $ \triangle \Phi_W(B)\Phi_W(P)\Phi_W(C) $), so $ \odot (WBF), $ $ \odot (WCE), $ $ \odot (WPD) $ are coaxial, hence notice $ \odot (WBF), $ $ \odot (WCE) $ is the image of $ \odot (DCE), $ $ \odot (DBF) $, respectively under $ \Psi_X $ we get $ W $ $ \in $ $ \odot (AQD) $. Analogously, we can prove $ W $ lies on $ \odot (BQE) $ and $ \odot (CQF) $, so $ \odot (AQD), $ $ \odot (BQE), $ $ \odot (CQF) $ are coaxial with common points $ Q, $ $ W $.

Finally, from $ \measuredangle BWC $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle CPB $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle BXC $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle CPB $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle BXP $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle PXC $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle CPB $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle (AB, CP) $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle (BP, CA) $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle (CP, BP) $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle BAC $ and similarly we get $ \measuredangle CWA $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle APC $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle CBA, $ $ \measuredangle AWB $ $ + $ $ \measuredangle BPA $ $ = $ $ \measuredangle ACB $ we conclude that $ W $ is the isogonal conjugate (WRT $ \triangle ABC $) of the antigonal conjugate of $ P $ WRT $ \triangle ABC $.
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See also here : isogonal cente of a special quadrilateral (Lemma 3 at post #2)
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TelvCohl wrote:
We prove the stronger result as following :

Given a $ \triangle ABC $ and a point $ P .$ Let $ \triangle DEF $ be the cevian triangle of $ P $ WRT $ \triangle ABC $ and let $ Q $ be the Miquel point of $ D, $ $ E, $ $ F $ WRT $ \triangle ABC .$ Then $ \odot (AQD), $ $ \odot (BQE), $ $ \odot (CQF) $ are coaxial and the second intersection of these three circles is the isogonal conjugate (WRT $ \triangle ABC $) of the antigonal conjugate of $ P $ WRT $ \triangle ABC .$

Here's another approach. We use directed angles mod 180º throughout the proof.

From previous post #4 we known that $\odot(AQD),$ $\odot(BQE),$ $\odot(CQF)$ meet at a 2nd point $R.$ Let $\odot(BQE)$ and $\odot(CQF)$ cut $CA,AB$ again at $Y,Z,$ resp. Thus we have $\angle (RQ,RZ)=\angle (FQ,FA)=\angle (EQ,EY)=\angle (RQ,RY)$ $\Longrightarrow$ $R \in YZ.$ Hence since $\angle (RB,RZ)=\angle (EB,EC)$ and $\angle (RY,RC)=\angle (FB,FC)$ $\Longrightarrow$ $\angle (RB,RC)=\angle (EB,EC)+\angle (FB,FC)=\angle (AB,AC)+\angle (PB,PC).$ But if $K$ is the antigonal conjugate of $P$ and $K^*$ the isogonal conjugate of $K,$ we have $\angle (K^*B,K^*C)=\angle (AB,AC)+\angle (KC,KB)=\angle (AB+AC)+\angle (PB,PC)$ $\Longrightarrow$ $K^* \in \odot(RBC)$ and similarly $K^*$ also lies on $\odot(RCA)$ and $\odot(RAB)$ $\Longrightarrow$ $R \equiv K^*.$
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Last year Telv Cohl shared this nice problem with me.At that time I got a proof from which I discoverd a new proof of the famous theorem “Poncelet point $\in$ Ceva circle”.Permit me to write down my solution here:
We only need to prove:
Let $R$ be the isogonal center of $ABCP$,$PA\cap BC=D,PB\cap AC=E,PC\cap AB=F.$
Then $\measuredangle ARD=\measuredangle AEF-\measuredangle CBA$
Proof:Let $O$ be the circumceter of $\triangle ABC$,$T$ be a point such that $\measuredangle TAQ=\measuredangle ADO$ and $QT \perp BC.$
Then $\measuredangle AQT=\measuredangle OAD \Rightarrow  \measuredangle OQT=\measuredangle RAD$
$\measuredangle AQT=\measuredangle OAD,\measuredangle TAQ=\measuredangle ADO \Rightarrow  \triangle QAT \overset{-}{\sim} \triangle ADO\Rightarrow
\measuredangle ATQ= \measuredangle AOD, \frac{QT}{QA}=\frac{QA}{AD} \Rightarrow QT\cdot AD=OA \cdot QA=OQ \cdot RA \Rightarrow \frac{OQ}{QT}= \frac{AD}{RA},$notice $\measuredangle OQT=\measuredangle RAD$ then $\triangle OQT \overset{-}{\sim} \triangle DAR \Rightarrow \measuredangle ARD=\measuredangle OTQ$
Let $OD\cap QT=N,$ then $AN \perp EF$.
$\measuredangle ATQ=\measuredangle AOD \Rightarrow A,O,N,T$ are concyclic $\Rightarrow \measuredangle OTQ=\measuredangle OAN=\measuredangle OAC-\measuredangle NAC=\measuredangle AEF-\measuredangle CBA$
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Yesterday Lsway told me this beautiful problem and also told me it's related to the IMO shortlist 2012 G8. I also found an interesting problem which is equivalent to IMO shortlist 2012 G8 and similar to jayme's problem:

Given a triangle $\Delta ABC$ and a point $P$, let $\Delta DEF$ be the cevian triangle of $P$ with respect to $\Delta ABC$, $Q$ is the Miquel point of $D, E, F$ with respect to $\Delta ABC$. $EF\cap BC=A_1$, similarly define $B_1, C_1$. Let $X$ be the pedal point of the circumcenter of $\Delta DEF$ on line $A_1B_1C_1$. Then $(QDA_1), (QEB_1), (QFC_1)$ are coaxial and the second intersection point of these three circles is $X$.

So is there any relationship between trilinear polar and isogonal center?
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how to prove AN is perpendicular to EF?
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