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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
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dcouchman
Sep 9, 2019
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Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


Everything definitely out of range of common sense will be locked or deleted (exept for new users having less than about 42 posts, they are newbies and need/get some time to learn).

The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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ZetaX
Feb 27, 2007
NoDealsHere
May 4, 2019
1 x 3 pieces in a 3 x 25 board,m max no of pieces placed
parmenides51   1
N a few seconds ago by TheBaiano
Source: Lusophon 2018 CPLP P6
In a $3 \times 25$ board, $1 \times 3$ pieces are placed (vertically or horizontally) so that they occupy entirely $3$ boxes on the board and do not have a common point.
What is the maximum number of pieces that can be placed, and for that number, how many configurations are there?

original formulation
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parmenides51
Sep 13, 2018
TheBaiano
a few seconds ago
smallest a so that S(n)-S(n+a) = 2018, where S(n)=sum of digits
parmenides51   3
N 21 minutes ago by TheBaiano
Source: Lusophon 2018 CPLP P3
For each positive integer $n$, let $S(n)$ be the sum of the digits of $n$. Determines the smallest positive integer $a$ such that there are infinite positive integers $n$ for which you have $S (n) -S (n + a) = 2018$.
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parmenides51
Sep 13, 2018
TheBaiano
21 minutes ago
Ducks can play games now apparently
MortemEtInteritum   35
N 2 hours ago by pi271828
Source: USA TST(ST) 2020 #1
Let $a$, $b$, $c$ be fixed positive integers. There are $a+b+c$ ducks sitting in a
circle, one behind the other. Each duck picks either rock, paper, or scissors, with $a$ ducks
picking rock, $b$ ducks picking paper, and $c$ ducks picking scissors.
A move consists of an operation of one of the following three forms:

[list]
[*] If a duck picking rock sits behind a duck picking scissors, they switch places.
[*] If a duck picking paper sits behind a duck picking rock, they switch places.
[*] If a duck picking scissors sits behind a duck picking paper, they switch places.
[/list]
Determine, in terms of $a$, $b$, and $c$, the maximum number of moves which could take
place, over all possible initial configurations.
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MortemEtInteritum
Nov 16, 2020
pi271828
2 hours ago
2017 IGO Advanced P3
bgn   18
N 2 hours ago by Circumcircle
Source: 4th Iranian Geometry Olympiad (Advanced) P3
Let $O$ be the circumcenter of triangle $ABC$. Line $CO$ intersects the altitude from $A$ at point $K$. Let $P,M$ be the midpoints of $AK$, $AC$ respectively. If $PO$ intersects $BC$ at $Y$, and the circumcircle of triangle $BCM$ meets $AB$ at $X$, prove that $BXOY$ is cyclic.

Proposed by Ali Daeinabi - Hamid Pardazi
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bgn
Sep 15, 2017
Circumcircle
2 hours ago
Euler line of incircle touching points /Reposted/
Eagle116   6
N 3 hours ago by pigeon123
Let $ABC$ be a triangle with incentre $I$ and circumcentre $O$. Let $D,E,F$ be the touchpoints of the incircle with $BC$, $CA$, $AB$ respectively. Prove that $OI$ is the Euler line of $\vartriangle DEF$.
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Eagle116
Apr 19, 2025
pigeon123
3 hours ago
Parallel lines on a rhombus
buratinogigle   1
N 3 hours ago by Giabach298
Source: Own, Entrance Exam for Grade 10 Admission, HSGS 2025
Given the rhombus $ABCD$ with its incircle $\omega$. Let $E$ and $F$ be the points of tangency of $\omega$ with $AB$ and $AC$ respectively. On the edges $CB$ and $CD$, take points $G$ and $H$ such that $GH$ is tangent to $\omega$ at $P$. Suppose $Q$ is the intersection point of the lines $EG$ and $FH$. Prove that two lines $AP$ and $CQ$ are parallel or coincide.
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buratinogigle
4 hours ago
Giabach298
3 hours ago
Orthocenter lies on circumcircle
whatshisbucket   90
N 3 hours ago by bjump
Source: 2017 ELMO #2
Let $ABC$ be a triangle with orthocenter $H,$ and let $M$ be the midpoint of $\overline{BC}.$ Suppose that $P$ and $Q$ are distinct points on the circle with diameter $\overline{AH},$ different from $A,$ such that $M$ lies on line $PQ.$ Prove that the orthocenter of $\triangle APQ$ lies on the circumcircle of $\triangle ABC.$

Proposed by Michael Ren
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whatshisbucket
Jun 26, 2017
bjump
3 hours ago
Polish MO Finals 2014, Problem 4
j___d   3
N 3 hours ago by ariopro1387
Source: Polish MO Finals 2014
Denote the set of positive rational numbers by $\mathbb{Q}_{+}$. Find all functions $f: \mathbb{Q}_{+}\rightarrow \mathbb{Q}_{+}$ that satisfy
$$\underbrace{f(f(f(\dots f(f}_{n}(q))\dots )))=f(nq)$$for all integers $n\ge 1$ and rational numbers $q>0$.
3 replies
j___d
Jul 27, 2016
ariopro1387
3 hours ago
S(an) greater than S(n)
ilovemath0402   1
N 3 hours ago by ilovemath0402
Source: Inspired by an old result
Find all positive integer $n$ such that $S(an)\ge S(n) \quad \forall a \in \mathbb{Z}^{+}$ ($S(n)$ is sum of digit of $n$ in base 10)
P/s: Original problem
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ilovemath0402
4 hours ago
ilovemath0402
3 hours ago
Hagge-like circles, Jerabek hyperbola, Lemoine cubic
kosmonauten3114   0
3 hours ago
Source: My own
Let $\triangle{ABC}$ be a scalene oblique triangle with circumcenter $O$ and orthocenter $H$, and $P$ ($\neq \text{X(3), X(4)}$, $\notin \odot(ABC)$) a point in the plane.
Let $\triangle{A_1B_1C_1}$, $\triangle{A_2B_2C_2}$ be the circumcevian triangles of $O$, $P$, respectively.
Let $\triangle{P_AP_BP_C}$ be the pedal triangle of $P$ with respect to $\triangle{ABC}$.
Let $A_1'$ be the reflection in $P_A$ of $A_1$. Define $B_1'$, $C_1'$ cyclically.
Let $A_2'$ be the reflection in $P_A$ of $A_2$. Define $B_2'$, $C_2'$ cyclically.
Let $O_1$, $O_2$ be the circumcenters of $\triangle{A_1'B_1'C_1'}$, $\triangle{A_2'B_2'C_2'}$, respectively.

Prove that:
1) $P$, $O_1$, $O_2$ are collinear if and only if $P$ lies on the Jerabek hyperbola of $\triangle{ABC}$.
2) $H$, $O_1$, $O_2$ are collinear if and only if $P$ lies on the Lemoine cubic (= $\text{K009}$) of $\triangle{ABC}$.
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kosmonauten3114
3 hours ago
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Incenter perpendiculars and angle congruences
math154   84
N 4 hours ago by zuat.e
Source: ELMO Shortlist 2012, G3
$ABC$ is a triangle with incenter $I$. The foot of the perpendicular from $I$ to $BC$ is $D$, and the foot of the perpendicular from $I$ to $AD$ is $P$. Prove that $\angle BPD = \angle DPC$.

Alex Zhu.
84 replies
math154
Jul 2, 2012
zuat.e
4 hours ago
Tangency of circles with "135 degree" angles
Shayan-TayefehIR   4
N 4 hours ago by Mysteriouxxx
Source: Iran Team selection test 2024 - P12
For a triangle $\triangle ABC$ with an obtuse angle $\angle A$ , let $E , F$ be feet of altitudes from $B , C$ on sides $AC , AB$ respectively. The tangents from $B , C$ to circumcircle of triangle $\triangle ABC$ intersect line $EF$ at points $K , L$ respectively and we know that $\angle CLB=135$. Point $R$ lies on segment $BK$ in such a way that $KR=KL$ and let $S$ be a point on line $BK$ such that $K$ is between $B , S$ and $\angle BLS=135$. Prove that the circle with diameter $RS$ is tangent to circumcircle of triangle $\triangle ABC$.

Proposed by Mehran Talaei
4 replies
Shayan-TayefehIR
May 19, 2024
Mysteriouxxx
4 hours ago
FE inequality from Iran
mojyla222   4
N 4 hours ago by shanelin-sigma
Source: Iran 2025 second round P5
Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R}^+ \to \mathbb{R}$ such that for all $x,y,z>0$
$$
3(x^3+y^3+z^3)\geq f(x+y+z)\cdot f(xy+yz+xz) \geq (x+y+z)(xy+yz+xz).
$$
4 replies
mojyla222
Apr 19, 2025
shanelin-sigma
4 hours ago
Line bisects a segment
buratinogigle   1
N 4 hours ago by cj13609517288
Source: Own, Entrance Exam for Grade 10 Admission, HSGS 2025
Let $ABC$ be a triangle with $AB = AC$. A circle $(O)$ is tangent to sides $AC$ and $AB$, and $O$ is the midpoint of $BC$. Points $E$ and $F$ lie on sides $AC$ and $AB$, respectively, such that segment $EF$ is tangent to circle $(O)$ at point $P$. Let $H$ and $K$ be the orthocenters of triangles $OBF$ and $OCE$, respectively. Prove that line $OP$ bisects segment $HK$.
1 reply
buratinogigle
4 hours ago
cj13609517288
4 hours ago
Polynomials in Z[x]
BartSimpsons   16
N Apr 22, 2025 by bin_sherlo
Source: European Mathematical Cup 2017 Problem 4
Find all polynomials $P$ with integer coefficients such that $P (0)\ne  0$ and $$P^n(m)\cdot P^m(n)$$is a square of an integer for all nonnegative integers $n, m$.

Remark: For a nonnegative integer $k$ and an integer $n$, $P^k(n)$ is defined as follows: $P^k(n) = n$ if $k = 0$ and $P^k(n)=P(P(^{k-1}(n))$ if $k >0$.

Proposed by Adrian Beker.
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BartSimpsons
Dec 27, 2017
bin_sherlo
Apr 22, 2025
Polynomials in Z[x]
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Find all polynomials $P$ with integer coefficients such that $P (0)\ne  0$ and $$P^n(m)\cdot P^m(n)$$is a square of an integer for all nonnegative integers $n, m$.

Remark: For a nonnegative integer $k$ and an integer $n$, $P^k(n)$ is defined as follows: $P^k(n) = n$ if $k = 0$ and $P^k(n)=P(P(^{k-1}(n))$ if $k >0$.

Proposed by Adrian Beker.
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Choose a prime $p\nmid P(0)$ and plug in $(m,n)=(p,0)$ to get $p\cdot P^p(0)$ is a perfect square, so $p\mid P^p(0)$.
Consider the orbit $$0\to P(0)\to P(P(0))\to\cdots$$in $\bmod\ p$. Clearly it is periodic, and we know that its period is not $1$, but must divides $p$, so it is precisely $p$. Therefore every $p$ consecutive numbers in the orbit of $0$ forms a complete residue system $\bmod\ p$. Now consider any $t\in\mathbb Z$. We know that $P^k(0)\equiv t\pmod{p}$ for exactly one value of $0\leqslant k\leqslant p-1$. Therefore,
$$\{t,P(t),P(P(t)),\ldots,P^{p-1}(t)\}\equiv \{P^k(0),P^{k+1}(0),\ldots, P^{k+p-1}(0)\}\pmod{p}$$is also a CRS $\bmod\ p$

If $P(n)$ is not of the form $n+c$, then by Schur, $\{P(n)-n\mid n\in\mathbb Z\}$ has infinitely many prime divisors, so for some prime $q\nmid P(0)$ and $n_0\in\mathbb Z$, $q\mid P(n_0)-n_0$, contradicting the previous paragraph.
Therefore $P(n) = n+c$ for some constant $c$. The problem now reduces to finding all $c\in\mathbb Z$ such that
$$(m+cn)(n+cm)$$is always a perfect square, and this is easy:
- If $c<0$, when $(m,n)=(1,1-c)$ we have $(m+cn)(n+cm) = 1+(1-c)c<0$ which is obviously not a perfect square.
- If $c=0$ then it's obvious that $c$ doesn't work, and if $c=1$ it's obvious that $c$ works.
- Finally, if $c\geqslant 2$, choose a prime $p>c^2$ and plug in $(m,n)=(p-c,1)$ to get $(m+cn)(n+cm)=p(1+pc-c^2)$ which is divisible by $p$ but not $p^2$, and so is not a perfect square.

Therefore, the only such $P$ is $\boxed{P(n)=n+1}$
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Does this problem help ?
https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c6h6448p22328
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using equivalence relations it becomes 2010 IMO #3
hint: let f(n)=P^{n}(0) and a~b iff ab is a square.
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Note that, if $m=0$, we get $P^n(0)n$ is a perfect square, and $n=1$ gives $P(0)$ is a square. Considering the sequence $a_i=P^i(0)$, note that $a_{i}-a_{i-1}|a_{i+1}-a_i$ since $P$ is an integer polynomial. This implies that $P(0)|a_i$. Also, $a_{i+1}\equiv P(0)\pmod {a_i}$, since $a_{i+1}=P(a_i)$. Now, I will inductively show that $a_i=iP(0)$. Clearly, the base case is true, so suppose $a_k=kP(0)$. Note that $a_{k+1}-a_k$ must be of the form $(1+nk)P(0)$ for $n\ge 0$. Note that as all future partial differences are divisible by this, $a_i\equiv kP(0)\pmod{(1+nk)P(0)}\forall i>k$. So, this means that $\gcd(a_i/P(0),(1+nk))=1\forall i>k$. Now, if $n>1$, consider a squarefree factor, $f>1$, of $1+nk$, and a very large squarefree multiple of $f$, $F$. Of course, we want $P^F(0)F$ to be a perfect square. However, as $P(0)$ is a square, we need $F|\frac{a_F}{P(0)}$, which is a contradiction, since $f\not\arrowvert \frac{a_F}{P(0)}$. Therefore, we must have $n=0$ and $a_{k+1}=(k+1)P(0)$, as desired. Now, as $P(x)-(x+P(0))$ has infinite roots, located at all $a_i$, we must have that $P(x)=x+P(0)$.

Denoting $P(0)$ as $c^2$, $(n+mc^2)(m+nc^2)$ is always a perfect square. Now, if $c>1$, choose $(m,n)$ with the following properties: $n=c^2n'$, $m+n'$ is squarefree, $\gcd(m,n)=1$, and $\gcd(m+n',c^4-1)=1$. Then, this becomes $c^2(m+n')(m+n'c^4)$. So, we must have $m+n'|m+n'c^4$. However, $\gcd(m+n',m+n'c^4)=\gcd(m+n',n'(c^4-1))=1$, which is a contradiction. Therefore, $c=1$ and $P(x)=x+1$ is the only solution.
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Nice! Here's my solution (which is heavily dependent on induction): Define the sequence $(x_j)_{j \geq 0}$ with $x_0=0$ and $x_j=P(x_{j-1})$ for all $j \in \mathbb{N}$. Then the given condition states that $nx_n$ is a perfect square for all $n \in \mathbb{N}$. We first prove some claims which will help us strengthen our foothold over the sequence $(x_j)_{j \geq 0}$. Throughout we'll be using the deep fact that $a-b \mid P^k(a)-P^k(b)$ for all non-negative integers $a,b,k$.

CLAIM 1 $x_i \mid x_{iz}$ for all $i,z \in \mathbb{N}$.

Proof of Claim 1

CLAIM 2 For all $n \in \mathbb{N}$, we have $n \mid x_n$.

Proof of Claim 2

CLAIM 3 Let $x_1=P(0)=A^2$ for some $A \in \mathbb{N}$ (Since $P(0)$ is a non-zero square). Then $x_i-x_{i-1}=A^2$ for all $i \in \mathbb{N}$.

Proof of Claim 3

Return to the problem at hand. By Claim 3, we get that the equation $P(x)-x-A^2=0$ has infinitely many roots, namely $x_0,x_1,x_2 \dots$ (which are all distinct, since our claim ascertains that this sequence is an increasing sequence). Thus, we must have $P(x)=x+A^2$. Then $P^m(x)=x+mA^2$ for all $m \geq 0$. Suppose $A>1$, and choose a prime $p \mid A$. Then putting $(m,n)=(A^2,p-1)$ in the given conditions, we get that $pA^2(A^4+p-1)$ is a perfect square. But, $p \mid A$ gives that $\gcd(A^4+p-1,p)=1$. Then $$\nu_p(pA^2(A^4+p-1))=\nu_p(pA^2)=2\nu_p(A)+1$$which means that an odd power of $p$ divides $pA^2(A^4+p-1)$, contradicting the fact that this is a square. Thus, we must have $A=1$, and so we get the desired polynomial as $P(x)=x+1$. This clearly works, and so we're done. $\blacksquare$
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Consider $P\ne\text{constant}.$ Since $P\equiv C$ is easy to notice.
If
\begin{align*}
n=0\to mp^m(0)&=x_m^{2}\quad\forall m\left(x_m\in\mathbb N\right)\\
\implies p\mid p^p(0)&=x_p^2\quad\forall p\in\text{(prime)}\\
\implies p\mid p^p(0)\quad\forall p\in\text{(prime)}\\
\end{align*}Take $p\nmid p(0)$
$\{0,p(0),\cdots,p^p(0)\}\implies\exists 0\leqslant i<j\leqslant p, p^i(0)\equiv p^j(0)[p]$ by $\text{Dirichlet's principle}$
Let $a_k=p^k(0)\implies\exists  T\in\mathbb Z_p\leqslant p: a_{k+T}\equiv a_k[\pmod {p}]\forall k\ge 0$
Since $p\mid p^p(0)\implies T\mid P\implies\begin{cases} T&=1\\ T&=P\end{cases}$
$T=1\implies a_i\equiv a_{i+1}\equiv\hdots\equiv a_p\equiv a_{p+1}[p]\implies a_{p+1}=P(a_p)\equiv P(0)[\pmod {p}]\implies p\mid p(0)(\text{constant})\implies T=P$
For any $a\in\mathbb Z, P^k(0)\equiv a\pmod{p}$ for exactly one $k, 0\le k<P\implies\{a,P(a),P(P(a)),\hdots,P(a)\}\equiv\{P^k(0),P^{k+1}(0),\hdots,P^{k+p-1}(0)\}(\pmod {p}).$
This is a complete residue system $\pmod{p}.$
If $P(x)-x=Q(x)$ is a non-constant polynomial.
By $\text{Schur's theorem}$ $\{P(n)-n: n\in\mathbb Z^+\}$ has infinitely many prime.
Take $Q\mid P(0),n_0\in\mathbb Z, Q\mid P(n_0)-n_0.$
Note, $Q$ is prime this contradict to the above conditions when $q=p.$
Therefore $P(x)=x+c$ for some constant $c\in\mathbb Z.$
$(m+cn)(n+cm)$ is a square $\forall m,n\in\mathbb N.$
case 1
$c<0: m=1, n=1-c\implies(m+cn)(m+cm)=1+c-c^2<0$
case 2
$c=0: (m+cn)(n+cm)=mn$ not possible.
case 3
$c=1$ is easy to check
case 4
$\exists p\in\mathbb P : p >c^2+1$
$m=p-c,n=1\implies (m+cn)(n+cm)=p(1+pc-c^2): p\nmid p^2\implies\text{Contradiction}$
Hence, $c=1\implies P(x)\equiv x+1$
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What a nice problem, took the wrong approach several times before trying "arrow" :what?:
From the problem, we have $p \cdot P^p(0)$ is a square for any prime number $p$, forcing $p \mid P^p(0)$ for all primes $p$.

Take a prime number $p \nmid P(0)$.
Claim 01. We have $\{ P(0), P^2(0), \dots, P^p(0) \}$ being complete residues modulo $p$.
Proof. Consider
\[ 0 \mapsto P(0) \mapsto P(P(0)) \mapsto \dots \mapsto P^p(0) \]Let $a$ be the smallest positive integer such that $P^a(0) \equiv 0 \ ( \text{mod} \ p)$. We must have $a \mid p$ by the definition of $a$. Thus, $a = 1$ or $a = p$. However, we have taken $p \nmid P(0)$, so $a = p$. If there exists two positive integers $1 \le a < b \le p - 1$ such that $P^a(0) \equiv P^b(0) \ (\text{mod} \ p)$. This forces $P^{p} (0) \equiv P^{p - b + a} (0) \ (\text{mod} \ p)$, forcing $k = p - b + a < p$ to satisfy $P^k(0) \equiv 0 \ (\text{mod} \ p)$, a contradiction. Thus, all of them must be distinct residues, resulting in a complete residue modulo $p$.
Claim 02. This can be extended slightly to $\{ P^k(0), \dots, P^{k + p - 1}(0) \}$ is a complete residue modulo $p$.
Proof. Since $P^p(0) \equiv 0 \ (\text{mod} \ p)$, then since $P \in \mathbb{Z}[x]$, then $P^{a + p}(0) = P^a (P^p (0)) \equiv P^a (0) \ (\text{mod} \ p)$. Now, just notice that $\{ k, k + 1, \dots, k + p - 1 \} \equiv \{ 1, 2, \dots, p \}$ in $\mathbb{Z}_p$, and we are done.
Why do we consider this?
Take any integer $t \in \mathbb{Z}$.
Claim 03. $\{ t, P(t), \dots, P^{p - 1}(t) \}$ forms a complete residue modulo $p$.
Proof. Since $\{ P(0), P^2(0), \dots, P^p(0) \}$ forms a complete residue modulo $p$. Then, we can take $1 \le k \le p - 1$ such that $P^k(0) \equiv t \ (\text{mod} \ p)$. Thus,
\[ \{ t, P(t), \dots, P^{p - 1}(t) \} \equiv \{ P^k(0), P^{k + 1}(0), \dots, P^{k + p - 1}(0) \} (\text{mod} \ p) \]
Main Claim. $P(n) - n$ is a constant.
Proof. Now, we know that for any prime number $p \nmid P(0)$ and any integer $t \in \mathbb{Z}$, then $p \nmid P(t) - t$ (since $\{ t, P(t) \}$ are distinct residues modulo $p$ for any $t \in \mathbb{Z}$.)
Therefore, we conclude that if $\mathcal{P}$ is the set of primes dividing $P(n) - n$ for all $n \in \mathbb{N}$, and $\mathcal{Q}$ is the set of primes dividing $P(0)$, then
\[ \mathcal{P} \subseteq \mathcal{Q} \Rightarrow |\mathcal{P}| \le |\mathcal{Q}| \]which proves that $|\mathcal{P}|$ is finite.
However, by Schur Theorem, unless $P(n) - n$ is a constant, $|\mathcal{P}|$ is infinite, which is a contradiction.
Thus, we conclude that $P(n) = n + b$ for some integer $b$.
We have $P^m(n) \cdot P^n(m) = (n + mb)(m + nb)$ is a square for all $n,m \in \mathbb{N}_0$.
Take $n = 0, m = 1$ gives us $b$ being a perfect square.
Take $m = 4, n = 1$, and we have $4b^2 + 17b + 4$ being a square. However, since
\[ (2b + 2)^2 = 4b^2 + 8b + 4 < 4b^2 + 17b + 4 < 4b^2 + 20b + 25 = (2b+5)^2 \]We have $4b^2 + 17b + 4 = (2b + 3)^2 \rightarrow b = 1$ or $4b^2 + 17b + 4 = (2b + 4)^2 \rightarrow b = 12$, which is not a square.
Therefore, the only solution is $\boxed{P(x) = x + 1}$ which works since
\[ P^m(n) \cdot P^n(m) = (m + n)^2 \]is a square for all nonnegative $m,n$.
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BartSimpsons wrote:
Find all polynomials $P$ with integer coefficients such that $P (0)\ne  0$ and $$P^n(m)\cdot P^m(n)$$is a square of an integer for all nonnegative integers $n, m$.

Remark: For a nonnegative integer $k$ and an integer $n$, $P^k(n)$ is defined as follows: $P^k(n) = n$ if $k = 0$ and $P^k(n)=P(P(^{k-1}(n))$ if $k >0$.

Proposed by Adrian Beker.

Nice Problem !!
First note that $p \mid P^{p} (0)$ , suppose there exist a $x <p$ such that $ P^{x} (0) \equiv 0 mod p$ , as $p-x >0$ , choose a minimum such $x$.

Now ,$P^{x}(0) = P^{p-x}(P^{p}(0)) \equiv P^{p-x}(0) \equiv 0  mod p$ , so in general $P^{p-kx}(0) \equiv 0 modp$.

But we can choose $k > \frac{p}{x} - 1 > 0$ , so $p-kx <x$ , a contradiction to the minimality of $x$. , so using this we get that $P^t (0) \equiv 0 modp$ if and only if $t  \equiv 0 mod p$ , for any prime $p$, so $P^{1} (0) = P(0) = 1$.

But now $P^{p}(0) = P^{p-1}(1)$ , but from the statement $\nu_p(P^{p}(0))$ is odd , and as $ P^{p-1}(1). P(p-1)$ is perfect square this implies $P(p-1) \equiv P(-1) \equiv 0 mod p$ , but this is true for infinitely many primes $p$ , so $P(-1) = 0$ .

So we can write $P(x) = (x+1)^{r}. g(x)$ where $g(-1) \neq 0$ , suppose $g$ is not constant $P^{p}(0)= P(P^{p-1}(0)) = (P^{p-1}(0) +1)^{r} .g( P^{p-1}(0)) = p^{odd}$ , so $P^{p-1}(0)  = p^{t} - 1$ , for some natural $t$ , and $ g(p^{t} - 1) \equiv 0 mod p$ , but this is true for infinite $p,s$ , so $g(-1) = 0$ , a contradiction , so $g$ is indeed constant , this implies $P(x) =c(x+1)^{r}$ , but as $P(0) = c = 1$ , so $P(x) = (x+1)^{r}$ , from here we can easily prove $r = 1$ , (I will post it later as it just involved putting some values , to prove that $r = 1$) , Hence $P \equiv x+1$ $\blacksquare$
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Answer is $P(x) \equiv x+1$, which clearly works.

We will be showing that cycle of each negative number contains $0$ which would then be enough to imply $P(x) \equiv x+1$.
Fix any $r \in \mathbb Z_{>0}$, to prove $0 \in -r,f(-r),f(f(-r)),\ldots$.
$$m=0 \implies P^n(0) \cdot n \in S \qquad \qquad (1) $$Claim: $0,P(0),P(P(0)),\ldots$ is not a cycle.

Proof: Assume on the contrary the sequence is eventually periodic. Pick $k,c$ (with $c \ge 1$) such that $P^k(0) = x \ne 0$ and $$ x = P^k(0) = P^{k+c} (0) = P^{k+2c}(0) = \cdots $$Then $(1)$ gives
$$ x \cdot k, x \cdot (k+c), x \cdot (k+2c), \ldots \in S $$But this is an easy contradiction, say by using the fact that $S$ has density $0$ or making $\nu_p(k+yc)$ odd for prime $p \nmid x$. $\square$

Our Claim particularly gives $P^n(0) \ne 0 ~ \forall ~ n \ge 1$.
$$ m = P^r(0) \implies  P^{n+r}(0) \cdot P^{P^r(0)}(n) \in S  \qquad \qquad (2)$$Combining $(1),(2)$ along with our Claim gives
$$ Q(n) := (n+r) \cdot P^{P^r(0)} (n) \in S ~ ~ \forall ~ n \ge 0 \qquad \qquad (3)$$This forces $Q(n)$ be a square of polynomial with integer coefficients (see the proof in post #26 to Iran TST 2008/8). Then
$$ n+r \mid Q(n) \implies (n+r)^2 \mid Q(n) \implies n+r \implies P^{P^r (0)} (n) \implies P^{P^r(0)}(-r) =0 $$So we have proven $0$ is in the cycle of $-r$. We are ready to finish.

Claim $P$ must be linear and its leading coefficient must be $\pm 1$.

Proof: Assume contrary. Choose a constant $\mu > 0$ such that $|P(x)| \ge |x|$ whenever $|x| \ge \mu$. But then cycle of $-\mu$ does not contain any $0$, which is a contradiction. $\square$

Now write $P(x) \equiv x+c$ with $c \in \mathbb Z \setminus \{0\}$. Again, exploiting $0$ is in cycle of each negative integer we obtain $c=1$, as desired. $\blacksquare$
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The only solution is $\boxed{P(x) = x + 1}$, which works. Now we prove that nothing else works.

Setting $m = 0$, we have \[P^n(0) \cdot n\]is a perfect square for nonnegative integers $n$. Therefore $p\mid P^p(0) $ for any prime $p$.

For any prime $p$ not dividing $P(0)$, the period of $0,P(0), P(P(0)), \ldots, $ modulo $p$ divides $p$, so it must be equal to $p$. Therefore, $\{0,P(0), P(P(0)), \ldots, P^{p-1}(0) \}$ forms a complete residue set modulo $p$. This in fact implies that $p$ cannot divide $P(n) - n$ for any integer $n$ (if $P(n)\equiv n\pmod p$, take $P^k(0) \equiv n\pmod p$ for $k\le p-1$). Since $P(0)$ has finitely many prime divisors, $P(n) - n$ is constant by Schur. Let $P(n) = n+c$. We have \[(m + nc)(n + cm)\]is a perfect square. From setting $m = 0$, we see that $c$ is a perfect square. From setting $m = 1$ and $n = 4$, we have that $(4c + 1)(c + 4) = 4c^2 + 17c + 4$ is a perfect square. It is clearly strictly in between $(2c + 2)^2$ and $(2c + 5)^2$, so it must be equal to $(2c+3)^2$ or $(2c+4)^2$. This gives the only possibilities $c = 1$ and $12$, but $12$ isn't a perfect square, so $c = 1$, as desired.
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Substitute $m=0$:
$P^n(0)n$ is a perfect square. Note that if $P$ is constant, then $cn$ is a perfect square, which is false when $n$ is a big prime

Now let $p$ be a prime. Because $P^p(0) \vdots p$, the length of the cycle of $0,P(0),P^2(0),\ldots$ mod $p$ should divide $p$, so it is $1$ or $p$. If it is $1$, then $p | P(0)$, so only finitely many $p$. For all other $p$ all residues $P(0),P^2(0),\ldots ,P^p(0)$ are different, and thus $Q(x)=P(x+1)-P(x) \not \vdots p$ for all $x$. Because $Q$ is divisible only by finitely many primes, it should be constant, and so $P$ is linear, say $P(x)=ax+b$. As $P(0)$ is a perfect square, $b=t^2$. Now let $P^k(0)=t^2a_k$. Then $a_1=1$ and $a_{k+1}=a*a_k+1$. And $k*a_k$ is a perfect square for all $k$. Suppose $q | a$, where $q$ is a prime. Then $a_q \equiv 1$ (mod $q$), and so $v_q(qa_q)=1$, contradicting the fact that it is perfect square. So $a$ is either one or negative one, as our values should be positive, it is $1$.
Now the original equation tells us that $(m+nt^2)(n+mt^2)$ is always a perfect square. Take $m=p-nt^2$, where $p$ is a large prime. Then $n-nt^4 \vdots p$ for any large $p$, and thus $t^2=1$. So $P(x)=x+1$, which works because $P^n(m) \dot P^m(n)=(m+n)(m+n)=(m+n)^2$
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Clearly no $P$ constant works so suppose $\text{deg} P \ge 1$, now let $P(m,n)$ the assertion.
$P(p,0)$ gives $p \mid P^p(0)$ for all $p$ primes. Now we focus on all $p>\text{max}(P(0), 1434)$ and consider the orbit $0 \to P(0) \to P(P(0)) \to \cdots$ in $\pmod p$.
It's clear that since we found a cycle we can consider minimal $k$ for which $p \mid P^k(0)$, but this means $k \mid p$ so since $p>P(0)$ we end up having $k=p$ and as a result $p$ is the lenght of the minimal cycle, now if there was a sub cycle in the graph we would never reach $0$ therefore $0,P(0), \cdots P^{p-1}(0)$ is a complete residue system $\pmod p$.
Select $P^{k}(0) \equiv \ell \pmod p$ and now check that due to the cycle $\ell, P(\ell), \cdots, P^{p-1}(\ell)$ is also a complete residue system $\pmod p$. Suppose FTSOC $P(x)-x$ isn't constant, then by Schur theorem we get that for some $p>\text{max}(P(0), 1434)$ we can find $x_0$ such that $p \mid P(x_0)-x_0$ but this means the orbit of $x_0$ has a cycle of lenght $1$, contradicting minimality of the cycle with lenght $p$.
Therefore $P(x)=x+c$ for all integers $x$, now $P(p,0)$ gives $c$ is a perfect square and the problem becomes $(m+cn)(n+cm)$ perfect square for all non-negative integers $m,n$. Trivially $c=0$ fails, and if $c<0$ then fix $m$ and set $n>-cm$ and $m+cn<0$ for large $n$ which gives that something $<0$ is a percect square, contradiction!. Therefore $c$ is a positive integer, now assume FTSOC $c \ne 1$.
Note that by dirchlet we can get some large prime $p=m+cn$ by fixing some $m$ such that $\gcd(m,c)=1$ and setting very large $n$, now we have $p \mid n+cm$ which means $n+cm \ge m+cn$ but clearly since $c \ge 2$ we get RHS is larger than LHS at some point, contradiction!.
Therefore $c=1$ which means $(m+n)(m+n)$ is a perfect square. This is completely true, therefore all polynomials $P \in \mathbb Z[x]$ that work are $P(x)=x+1$ thus we are done :cool:.
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Claim: $P$ has positive leading coefficient.
Proof. Suppose not, then for sufficiently large $|x|$ it follows that $|P(x)| > |x|$, and that $x$ and $P(x)$ have negative signs.
Taking sufficiently large $n$ and $m$ of opposite parity $\pmod{2}$ gives the result. $\blacksquare$

Claim: $\nu_p(P^n(m))$ is unbounded for all primes $p$ and nonnegative $n, m$.
Proof. FTSOC suppose that $\nu_p(P^n(0))$ is bounded above by some integer $N$.
It then follows that if $a \equiv b \pmod{p^N}$, that then $P(a) \equiv P(b) \pmod{p^N}$.
Note that $P^n(0) \cdot n$ is always a perfect square. Consider the cyclic chain taken $\pmod{p^N}$ of \[ 0, P(m), P(P(m)), \dots \]It follows that $\nu_p$ of the chain is eventually cyclic with some period $T$.
However, this implies that $P^{kT}(0)$ and $P^{kpT}(0)$ have the same $\nu_p$ for sufficiently large $k$, contradiction. $\blacksquare$

Claim: $P(x) = x + 1$.
Proof. Note that $\gcd(P(x), x) \mid P(0)$ for all $x$. Then take sufficiently large $x$ such that $\gcd(x, P(0)) = 1$ and $P(x) - x > 0$. If any prime $p \mid P(x) - x$, then $p \nmid x$, so $\nu_p(P^n(x))$ is always $0$, contradiction. $\blacksquare$
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Let $a_n = P^(n)(0)$. Plugging $m=0$ gives $na_n$ to be a perfect square for all $n \ge 0$.

Claim: For large enough prime $p$, we have $a_n \pmod p$ to be purely periodic with period $p$.
Proof: Let $p > \max(0, |P(0)|)$ be a large enough prime.
Note that sequence $a_n \pmod p$ is eventually periodic, as $a_j \equiv a_i \pmod p$ for some $i, j $ (due to PHP). Thus, letting $t = j-i$ implies $a_{k+st} \equiv a_k$ for all $k \ge i$. Let $T$ denote the period (minimum) of sequence $a_n$.
Note that: $p a_p$ is a perfect square, which implies $p | a_p$. Notice that: $$a_{n+p} = P^{(n)}(a_p) \equiv P^{(n)}(0) \equiv a_n \pmod p$$which implies $a_n$ is purely periodic. Thus: $T|p$ which implies $T = 1$ or $T=p$.

If $T=1$, then $a_n \pmod p$ will be constant eventually. Notice that: $a_{np} \equiv 0 \pmod p$ which implies that, it should equal to $0$ eventually. But: $P(a_p) \equiv P(0) \pmod p$ and $P(a_p) \equiv a_p \equiv 0 \pmod p$, thus contradiction that $p|P(0)$.
Therefore $T=p$.

Claim: $\deg(P) \le 1$
Proof:FTSOC, assume $\deg(P) \ge 2$.
Thus, note that we must have: $$\{ P(0), P(1), \cdots, P(p-1) \} = \{ 0, 1, \cdots, p-1 \}$$since $a_n$ is purely periodic modulo $p$.
Let $Q(x) = P(x+1)-P(x)$ be of $\deg P -1$ polynomial with $b_n = Q(n)$. Thus, due to Schurs theorem, infinitely many primes $q$ divide $b_n$ which implies $P(n+1) \equiv P(n) \pmod q$. Taking $q$ to be a prime which is much larger than $p$, it shows that $P(n+1) = P(n)$ which contradicts that $\{ P(0), P(1), \cdots, P(p-1) \} = \{ 0, 1, \cdots, p-1 \}$.

Therefore, $P(x)=ax+b$ for some $a, b$ integers.
Consider $G(x)=P(x)-x$. Then, by Schur's theorem, $P(n) \equiv n \pmod p$ for infinitely many primes $p$ but this contradicts that $a_n \pmod p$ has period of length $p$, for large enough primes $p$, unless $G$ is constant.

Thus: $P(x) = x+c$ and plugging back (followed by a NT-bash), we conclude with $c=1$.
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bin_sherlo
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This is a similar one. Note that $P$ is non-constant since $qP^q(0)\in \mathbb{Z}^2$ and $P(0)\neq 0$ where $q|P^q(0)$. Answer is $P(x)=x+1$ which indeed fits.
If $r|P^d(0)$ is the smallest positive integer $d$ satisfying the condition and $d<q$, then $r|P^{d+k}(0)-P^k(0)$ and since $r|P^r(0)$ we get $d|r$. If $r\not | P(0)$, then $d=q$ which implies $\{P(0),P^2(0),\dots,P^{r-1}(0)P^r(0)\}$ is the complete residue system on modulo $r$.
Let $Q(x)=P(x)-x$. Suppose that $Q$ is non-constant. By Schur, we can pick a sufficiently large prime $p|Q(x)$ for some sufficiently large posiitve integer $x$. Since $p\not |P^n(0)$ for $p\not | n$ we have
\[1=(\frac{P^x(m)P^m(x)}{p})=(\frac{P^x(m)x}{p})\implies (\frac{x}{p})=(\frac{P^x(m)}{p})\overset{m=P^{n-x}(0)}{\implies} (\frac{x}{p})=(\frac{P^n(0)}{p})=(\frac{n}{p})\]However, this is impossible since we can choose $n$ such that $(\frac{n}{p})\neq (\frac{x}{p})$ where $p$ is sufficiently large. Thus, $Q$ is constant which implies $P(x)=x+c$. We see that $(m+nc)(n+mc)\in \mathbb{Z}^2$. Pick $n=q$ to get that $(\frac{c}{q})=1$ for all sufficiently large primes. This yields $c$ is a perfect square. Let $c=t^2$. If $n=t^2$, then $(m+t^4)(t^2+mt^2)\in \mathbb{Z}^2$ or $(m+t^4)(m+1)\in \mathbb{Z}^2$. If $t^4\neq 1$, we pick a sufficiently large prime $p^2|m+1-p$ where $p\not | m+t^4$ but we observe that this is impossible. Thus, $t^2=1$ or $P(x)=x+1$ as desired.$\blacksquare$
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