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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
Want to help AoPS remain a valuable Olympiad resource? Help us add contests to AoPS's Contest Collections.

Find instructions and a list of contests to add here: https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c40244h1064480_contests_to_add
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dcouchman
Sep 9, 2019
v_Enhance
Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


Everything definitely out of range of common sense will be locked or deleted (exept for new users having less than about 42 posts, they are newbies and need/get some time to learn).

The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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ZetaX
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NoDealsHere
May 4, 2019
squares in dots - MATHCOUNTS challenge problem
rrusczyk   6
N 40 minutes ago by DhruvJha
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(That should be a 4x5 grid of dots.) Assuming each point is exactly one unit from its nearest neighbors, how many squares can be formed by connecting groups of four points?
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rrusczyk
May 27, 2003
DhruvJha
40 minutes ago
Inspired by my own results
sqing   2
N an hour ago by cazanova19921
Source: Own
Let $ a,b,c\geq \frac{1}{2}  . $ Prove that
$$ (a+1)(b+2)(c +1)-15 abc\leq \frac{15}{4}$$$$ (a+1)(b+3)(c +1)-21abc\leq \frac{21}{4}$$$$(a+2)(b+1)(c +2)-25a b c \leq \frac{25}{4}$$$$ (a+2)(b+3)(c +2)-35a b c \leq  \frac{35}{2}$$$$    (a+3)(b+1)(c +3)-49a b c \leq  \frac{49}{4}$$$$ (a+3)(b+2)(c +3)-49a b c \leq \frac{49}{2}$$
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sqing
3 hours ago
cazanova19921
an hour ago
Line through incenter tangent to a circle
Kayak   32
N an hour ago by L13832
Source: Indian TST D1 P1
In an acute angled triangle $ABC$ with $AB < AC$, let $I$ denote the incenter and $M$ the midpoint of side $BC$. The line through $A$ perpendicular to $AI$ intersects the tangent from $M$ to the incircle (different from line $BC$) at a point $P$> Show that $AI$ is tangent to the circumcircle of triangle $MIP$.

Proposed by Tejaswi Navilarekallu
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Kayak
Jul 17, 2019
L13832
an hour ago
D1015 : A strange EF for polynomials
Dattier   3
N an hour ago by Dattier
Source: les dattes à Dattier
Find all $P \in \mathbb R[x,y]$ with $P \not\in \mathbb R[x] \cup \mathbb R[y]$ and $\forall g,f$ homeomorphismes of $\mathbb R$, $P(f,g)$ is an homoemorphisme too.
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Dattier
Mar 16, 2025
Dattier
an hour ago
Turkey EGMO TST 2017 P6
nimueh   4
N an hour ago by Nobitasolvesproblems1979
Source: Turkey EGMO TST 2017 P6
Find all pairs of prime numbers $(p,q)$, such that $\frac{(2p^2-1)^q+1}{p+q}$ and $\frac{(2q^2-1)^p+1}{p+q}$ are both integers.
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nimueh
Jun 1, 2017
Nobitasolvesproblems1979
an hour ago
An inequality
JK1603JK   4
N an hour ago by Quantum-Phantom
Source: unknown
Let a,b,c>=0: ab+bc+ca=3 then maximize P=\frac{a^2b+b^2c+c^2a+9}{a+b+c}+\frac{abc}{2}.
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JK1603JK
Yesterday at 10:28 AM
Quantum-Phantom
an hour ago
Inspired by Abelkonkurransen 2025
sqing   1
N an hour ago by kiyoras_2001
Source: Own
Let $ a,b,c $ be real numbers such that $  a^2+4b^2+16c^2= abc. $ Prove that $$\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{2b}+\frac{1}{4c}\geq -\frac{1}{16}$$Let $ a,b,c $ be real numbers such that $ 4a^2+9b^2+16c^2= abc. $ Prove that $$ \frac{1}{2a}+\frac{1}{3b}+\frac{1}{4c}\geq -\frac{1}{48}$$
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sqing
Yesterday at 1:06 PM
kiyoras_2001
an hour ago
Inspired by Titu Andreescu
sqing   0
2 hours ago
Source: Own
Let $ a,b,c>0 $ and $ a+b+c\geq 3abc . $ Prove that
$$a^2+b^2+c^2+1\geq \frac{4}{3}(ab+bc+ca) $$
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1 viewing
sqing
2 hours ago
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Geometry challenging question
srnjbr   0
2 hours ago
Given a triangle ABC. A1, B1 and C1 are the points of contact of the inner circumcircle of the triangle with the sides BC, AC and AB respectively. The point of contact of AA1 with B1C1 and the circumcircle are called L and Q respectively. M is the midpoint of B1C1. The point of intersection of lines BC and B1C1 is called T. P is the foot of the perpendicular drawn to AT from point L. Show that points A1, M, Q and P lie on a circle.
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srnjbr
2 hours ago
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Plane normal to vector
RenheMiResembleRice   0
2 hours ago
Source: Bian Wei
Solve the attached
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RenheMiResembleRice
2 hours ago
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Complex numbers should be easy
RenheMiResembleRice   1
N 3 hours ago by RenheMiResembleRice
Source: Wenjing Kong
I cant do the last part. :(
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RenheMiResembleRice
3 hours ago
RenheMiResembleRice
3 hours ago
MATHCOUNTS on ESPN
rrusczyk   24
N Today at 4:21 AM by aidan0626
ESPN noon EST - the Countdown round of Nationals.

(Disclaimer: yours truly is an 'analyst' for the broadcast.)
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rrusczyk
May 27, 2003
aidan0626
Today at 4:21 AM
Chances of mathcounts nats qual
stjwyl   81
N Today at 4:19 AM by mathelvin
Info:
In 8th grade so I'm really hoping I can make nats now

I currently mock around 38 - 40 on nationals questions from 2015+
I mock anywhere from 37 - 42 on state questons from 2020+

For the sprint round I also have noticed that the difficulty jump from questions around 19 and 20 to questions around 22 and 23 has been really large (starting from 2023). I've also noticed that the last three questions (also from 2023 ->) are IMO impossible to do in the 40 minutes.

On target I can get 7/8 or even 8/8 if I'm lucky but it's possible for me to get 6/8

I'm in MA :sob: really hard state so do I have a chance

Edit: Just mocked the 2022 state round and got a 41 (29 sprint, 12 target :sob:)

Currently putting around 3 hrs or so a day and I have been for the past 2 months
States is 3/1 for me :sob:

so am i cooked
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stjwyl
Feb 21, 2025
mathelvin
Today at 4:19 AM
Mathcounts STRATEGIES
Existing_Human1   17
N Today at 3:54 AM by mathenrichmentaops
Hello commuinty!

I am wondering what your strategies are for mathcounts. Please note I do not mean tips. These can be for all rounds, but please specify. BTW, this is for state, but it can apply to any competition.

Ex:
Team - sit in a specific order
Target - do the easiest first
Sprint - go as fast as possible

I just made up the examples, and you will probably have better strategies, so if you want to help out, please do
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Existing_Human1
Yesterday at 7:27 PM
mathenrichmentaops
Today at 3:54 AM
I think I regressed at math
PaperMath   20
N Mar 18, 2025 by jlcong
I found the slip of paper a few days ago that I think I wrote when I was in kindergarten. It is just a sequence of numbers and you have to find the next number, the pattern is $1,2,5,40,1280,?$. I couldn't solve this and was wondering if any of you can find the pattern
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PaperMath
Mar 8, 2025
jlcong
Mar 18, 2025
I think I regressed at math
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I found the slip of paper a few days ago that I think I wrote when I was in kindergarten. It is just a sequence of numbers and you have to find the next number, the pattern is $1,2,5,40,1280,?$. I couldn't solve this and was wondering if any of you can find the pattern
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And you wrote that in kindergarten ?
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The only thing that can be deduced from this is a fourth difference of $1143$.
Not even too sure about this since the sample is extremely small.
Someone try to find the type of sequence.
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I cant find it either :facepalm: I think it's a recursion..

@bove bruh

*searching in OEIS*

EDIT: not in OEIS..
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The pattern is clearly $a_n=\frac{381}{8}n^{4}-\frac{1885}{4}n^{3}+\frac{13103n^{2}}{8}-\frac{9313n}{4}+1115$, and thus the next term is $a_6=6,041.$
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aidan0626 wrote:
The pattern is clearly $a_n=\frac{381}{8}x^{4}-\frac{1885}{4}x^{3}+\frac{13103x^{2}}{8}-\frac{9313x}{4}+1115$, and thus the next term is $a_6=6,041.$

Careful there. The fourth difference seen is 1143. However, we don't know if it's constant since our sample size is limited to the fourth difference. Based on the given terms, however, that seems fair enough, although there's no way to prove that it's true as we can't prove the consistency of the fourth difference.
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Also, @aidan0626, it appears that you performed a quartic regression. Since we don't have any more information about the terms, we can't tell if the overall sequence will act this way. It only works for the terms that are given since it goes up to the fourth difference (quartic).
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Conclusion: The pattern has an infinite number of solutions so long as it fits the terms given.
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Apologies. The sequence is clearly
\begin{align*}
a_n=\begin{cases}
1 & n=1\\
2 & n=2\\
5 & n=3\\
40 & n=4\\
1280 & n=5\\
69420 & n\ge 6,n\pmod{2}=0\\
1434 & n\ge6,n\pmod{2}=1
\end{cases}\end{align*}
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aidan0626 wrote:
Apologies. The sequence is clearly
\begin{align*}
a_n=\begin{cases}
1 & n=1\\
2 & n=2\\
5 & n=3\\
40 & n=4\\
1280 & n=5\\
69420 & n\ge 6,n\pmod{2}=0\\
1434 & n\ge6,n\pmod{2}=1
\end{cases}\end{align*}

Hey, it could be! Lol.
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I have a theory: you know how sometimes preschoolers will be like "I can write cursive!" and hold up a piece of paper with nonsensical squiggly lines? Maybe this is like that. You saw other sequence problems in kindergarten, so you decided to create one and wrote some random numbers that seemed to kind of have a pattern.

I hate to be pessimistic, but that might be the case.
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I finally understand why he chose “papermath” as his username.
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WAIT WAIT WAIT I THINK I SOLVED IT
and I swear on my entire math career I didn’t use any sort of ai I sat at my desk for an hour) I made nats at Mathcounts this year)

Quadruple each term:
4, 8, 20, 160, 5120
160 = 4^2 * 20 / 2
5120 = 8^2 * 160 / 2
A possible sequence could be a(n) = (a(n-3))^2 * a(n-1). This gives probable cause that the next term is 20^2 * 5120 / 2 =1,024,000, but remember we quadrupled at the beginning, so let’s unquadruple; 256,000
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WAIT WAIT WAIT I THINK I SOLVED IT
and I swear on my entire math career I didn’t use any sort of ai I sat at my desk for an hour) I made nats at Mathcounts this year)

Quadruple each term:
4, 8, 20, 160, 5120
160 = 4^2 * 20 / 2
5120 = 8^2 * 160 / 2
A possible sequence could be a(n) = (a(n-3))^2 * a(n-1). This gives probable cause that the next term is 20^2 * 5120 / 2 =1,024,000, but remember we quadrupled at the beginning, so let’s unquadruple; 256,000

This is obviously subjective to being incorrect, but the sample size for this kind of sequence is too small, leaving endless possibilities. I believe mine was one of the most straightforward, although I hope someone can find an even better tentative one.
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Gaslighted ChatGPT into solving this... Used both of SirAppel's functions.. so 69420!
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charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?
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Gaslighted ChatGPT into solving this... Used both of SirAppel's functions.. so 69420!
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why not just put the pattern into the ai
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charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?

I'm so sorry I didn't mean to flex like that, wanted to emphasize a lot on the line and btw I was not supposed to make nats I locked in out of nowhere
also trying to assemble my MN team so sorry to appear boasty
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MathPerson12321
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Charizard_637 wrote:
c_double_sharp wrote:
charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?

I'm so sorry I didn't mean to flex like that, wanted to emphasize a lot on the line and btw I was not supposed to make nats I locked in out of nowhere
also trying to assemble my MN team so sorry to appear boasty

You’ve said this like 10000 times I’ve already asked you to stop and clearly you aren’t.
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Charizard_637
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MathPerson12321 wrote:
Charizard_637 wrote:
c_double_sharp wrote:
charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?

I'm so sorry I didn't mean to flex like that, wanted to emphasize a lot on the line and btw I was not supposed to make nats I locked in out of nowhere
also trying to assemble my MN team so sorry to appear boasty

You’ve said this like 10000 times I’ve already asked you to stop and clearly you aren’t.

I think I've said this like 4x, I wont post it anywhere honestly now anyone who wants to know knows there's just no point
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jlcong
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Someone said i regressed and will continue to regress, how can i counter?
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