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Ok I’m a 6th grader in Iowa who got 38 in chapter which was first, so what are the chances of me getting in nats? I should feel confident but I don’t. I have a week until states and I’m getting really anxious. What should I do? And also does the cdr count in Iowa? Because I heard that some states do cdr for fun or something and that it doesn’t count to final standings.
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ESPN noon EST - the Countdown round of Nationals.

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$\begin{tabular}{c|c|c|c|c}Username & Grade & Score \\ \hline
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Factoring Marathon
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Hello guys,
I think we should start a factoring marathon. Post your solutions like this SWhatever, and your problems like this PWhatever. Please make your own problems, and I'll start off simple: P1
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I found the slip of paper a few days ago that I think I wrote when I was in kindergarten. It is just a sequence of numbers and you have to find the next number, the pattern is $1,2,5,40,1280,?$. I couldn't solve this and was wondering if any of you can find the pattern
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I found the slip of paper a few days ago that I think I wrote when I was in kindergarten. It is just a sequence of numbers and you have to find the next number, the pattern is $1,2,5,40,1280,?$. I couldn't solve this and was wondering if any of you can find the pattern
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And you wrote that in kindergarten ?
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The only thing that can be deduced from this is a fourth difference of $1143$.
Not even too sure about this since the sample is extremely small.
Someone try to find the type of sequence.
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I cant find it either :facepalm: I think it's a recursion..

@bove bruh

*searching in OEIS*

EDIT: not in OEIS..
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The pattern is clearly $a_n=\frac{381}{8}n^{4}-\frac{1885}{4}n^{3}+\frac{13103n^{2}}{8}-\frac{9313n}{4}+1115$, and thus the next term is $a_6=6,041.$
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The pattern is clearly $a_n=\frac{381}{8}x^{4}-\frac{1885}{4}x^{3}+\frac{13103x^{2}}{8}-\frac{9313x}{4}+1115$, and thus the next term is $a_6=6,041.$

Careful there. The fourth difference seen is 1143. However, we don't know if it's constant since our sample size is limited to the fourth difference. Based on the given terms, however, that seems fair enough, although there's no way to prove that it's true as we can't prove the consistency of the fourth difference.
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Also, @aidan0626, it appears that you performed a quartic regression. Since we don't have any more information about the terms, we can't tell if the overall sequence will act this way. It only works for the terms that are given since it goes up to the fourth difference (quartic).
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Conclusion: The pattern has an infinite number of solutions so long as it fits the terms given.
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Apologies. The sequence is clearly
\begin{align*}
a_n=\begin{cases}
1 & n=1\\
2 & n=2\\
5 & n=3\\
40 & n=4\\
1280 & n=5\\
69420 & n\ge 6,n\pmod{2}=0\\
1434 & n\ge6,n\pmod{2}=1
\end{cases}\end{align*}
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Apologies. The sequence is clearly
\begin{align*}
a_n=\begin{cases}
1 & n=1\\
2 & n=2\\
5 & n=3\\
40 & n=4\\
1280 & n=5\\
69420 & n\ge 6,n\pmod{2}=0\\
1434 & n\ge6,n\pmod{2}=1
\end{cases}\end{align*}

Hey, it could be! Lol.
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I have a theory: you know how sometimes preschoolers will be like "I can write cursive!" and hold up a piece of paper with nonsensical squiggly lines? Maybe this is like that. You saw other sequence problems in kindergarten, so you decided to create one and wrote some random numbers that seemed to kind of have a pattern.

I hate to be pessimistic, but that might be the case.
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I finally understand why he chose “papermath” as his username.
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WAIT WAIT WAIT I THINK I SOLVED IT
and I swear on my entire math career I didn’t use any sort of ai I sat at my desk for an hour) I made nats at Mathcounts this year)

Quadruple each term:
4, 8, 20, 160, 5120
160 = 4^2 * 20 / 2
5120 = 8^2 * 160 / 2
A possible sequence could be a(n) = (a(n-3))^2 * a(n-1). This gives probable cause that the next term is 20^2 * 5120 / 2 =1,024,000, but remember we quadrupled at the beginning, so let’s unquadruple; 256,000
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Charizard_637 wrote:
WAIT WAIT WAIT I THINK I SOLVED IT
and I swear on my entire math career I didn’t use any sort of ai I sat at my desk for an hour) I made nats at Mathcounts this year)

Quadruple each term:
4, 8, 20, 160, 5120
160 = 4^2 * 20 / 2
5120 = 8^2 * 160 / 2
A possible sequence could be a(n) = (a(n-3))^2 * a(n-1). This gives probable cause that the next term is 20^2 * 5120 / 2 =1,024,000, but remember we quadrupled at the beginning, so let’s unquadruple; 256,000

This is obviously subjective to being incorrect, but the sample size for this kind of sequence is too small, leaving endless possibilities. I believe mine was one of the most straightforward, although I hope someone can find an even better tentative one.
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Gaslighted ChatGPT into solving this... Used both of SirAppel's functions.. so 69420!
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charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?
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Gaslighted ChatGPT into solving this... Used both of SirAppel's functions.. so 69420!
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why not just put the pattern into the ai
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charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?

I'm so sorry I didn't mean to flex like that, wanted to emphasize a lot on the line and btw I was not supposed to make nats I locked in out of nowhere
also trying to assemble my MN team so sorry to appear boasty
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c_double_sharp wrote:
charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?

I'm so sorry I didn't mean to flex like that, wanted to emphasize a lot on the line and btw I was not supposed to make nats I locked in out of nowhere
also trying to assemble my MN team so sorry to appear boasty

You’ve said this like 10000 times I’ve already asked you to stop and clearly you aren’t.
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Charizard_637 wrote:
c_double_sharp wrote:
charizard try not to flex making nats for 2 microseconds challenge:

is it possible that your kindergarten handwriting is awful and you misread a number or two?

I'm so sorry I didn't mean to flex like that, wanted to emphasize a lot on the line and btw I was not supposed to make nats I locked in out of nowhere
also trying to assemble my MN team so sorry to appear boasty

You’ve said this like 10000 times I’ve already asked you to stop and clearly you aren’t.

I think I've said this like 4x, I wont post it anywhere honestly now anyone who wants to know knows there's just no point
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Someone said i regressed and will continue to regress, how can i counter?
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