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k a June Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
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Jun 2, 2025
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
Want to help AoPS remain a valuable Olympiad resource? Help us add contests to AoPS's Contest Collections.

Find instructions and a list of contests to add here: https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c40244h1064480_contests_to_add
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dcouchman
Sep 9, 2019
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Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


Everything definitely out of range of common sense will be locked or deleted (exept for new users having less than about 42 posts, they are newbies and need/get some time to learn).

The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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ZetaX
Feb 27, 2007
NoDealsHere
May 4, 2019
Cool integer FE
Rijul saini   2
N a minute ago by ZVFrozel
Source: LMAO Revenge 2025 Day 1 Problem 1
Alice has a function $f : \mathbb N \rightarrow \mathbb N$ such that for all naturals $a, b$ the function satisfies:
\[a + b \mid a^{f(a)} + b^{f(b)} \]Bob wants to find all possible functions Alice could have. Help Bob and find all functions that Alice could have.
2 replies
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 7:06 PM
ZVFrozel
a minute ago
A beautiful collinearity regarding three wonderful points
math_pi_rate   10
N 14 minutes ago by alexanderchew
Source: Own
Let $\triangle DEF$ be the medial triangle of an acute-angle triangle $\triangle ABC$. Suppose the line through $A$ perpendicular to $AB$ meet $EF$ at $A_B$. Define $A_C,B_A,B_C,C_A,C_B$ analogously. Let $B_CC_B \cap BC=X_A$. Similarly define $X_B$ and $X_C$. Suppose the circle with diameter $BC$ meet the $A$-altitude at $A'$, where $A'$ lies inside $\triangle ABC$. Define $B'$ and $C'$ similarly. Let $N$ be the circumcenter of $\triangle DEF$, and let $\omega_A$ be the circle with diameter $X_AN$, which meets $\odot (X_A,A')$ at $A_1,A_2$. Similarly define $\omega_B,B_1,B_2$ and $\omega_C,C_1,C_2$.
1) Show that $X_A,X_B,X_C$ are collinear.
2) Prove that $A_1,A_2,B_1,B_2,C_1,C_2$ lie on a circle centered at $N$.
3) Prove that $\omega_A,\omega_B,\omega_C$ are coaxial.
4) Show that the line joining $X_A,X_B,X_C$ is perpendicular to the radical axis of $\omega_A,\omega_B,\omega_C$.
10 replies
math_pi_rate
Nov 8, 2018
alexanderchew
14 minutes ago
Tricky FE
Rijul saini   4
N 15 minutes ago by YaoAOPS
Source: LMAO 2025 Day 1 Problem 1
Let $\mathbb{R}$ denote the set of all real numbers. Find all functions $f : \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}$ such that
$$f(xy) + f(f(y)) = f((x + 1)f(y))$$for all real numbers $x$, $y$.

Proposed by MV Adhitya and Kanav Talwar
4 replies
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:58 PM
YaoAOPS
15 minutes ago
Quotient of Polynomials is Quadratic
tastymath75025   26
N 27 minutes ago by pi271828
Source: USA TSTST 2017 Problem 3, by Linus Hamilton and Calvin Deng
Consider solutions to the equation \[x^2-cx+1 = \dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)},\]where $f$ and $g$ are polynomials with nonnegative real coefficients. For each $c>0$, determine the minimum possible degree of $f$, or show that no such $f,g$ exist.

Proposed by Linus Hamilton and Calvin Deng
26 replies
tastymath75025
Jun 29, 2017
pi271828
27 minutes ago
Bugs Bunny at it again
Rijul saini   4
N 34 minutes ago by ThatApollo777
Source: LMAO 2025 Day 2 Problem 1
Bugs Bunny wants to choose a number $k$ such that every collection of $k$ consecutive positive integers contains an integer whose sum of digits is divisible by $2025$.

Find the smallest positive integer $k$ for which he can do this, or prove that none exist.

Proposed by Saikat Debnath and MV Adhitya
4 replies
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 7:01 PM
ThatApollo777
34 minutes ago
Orthocenters equidistant from circumcenter
Rijul saini   5
N 41 minutes ago by YaoAOPS
Source: India IMOTC 2025 Day 1 Problem 2
In triangle $ABC$, consider points $A_1,A_2$ on line $BC$ such that $A_1,B,C,A_2$ are in that order and $A_1B=AC$ and $CA_2=AB$. Similarly consider points $B_1,B_2$ on line $AC$, and $C_1,C_2$ on line $AB$. Prove that orthocenters of triangles $A_1B_1C_1$ and $A_2B_2C_2$ are equidistant from the circumcenter of $ABC$.

Proposed by Shantanu Nene
5 replies
1 viewing
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:31 PM
YaoAOPS
41 minutes ago
Six variables (2)
Nguyenhuyen_AG   1
N an hour ago by lbh_qys
Let $a, \, b, \,c, \, x, \, y, \, z$ be six positive real numbers. Prove that
\[a^2+b^2+c^2+\frac{4(ax+by+cz)\sqrt{ab+bc+ca}}{x+y+z} \geqslant 2(ab+bc+ca).\]
1 reply
Nguyenhuyen_AG
an hour ago
lbh_qys
an hour ago
The line is a common tangent
Rijul saini   3
N an hour ago by pingupignu
Source: India IMOTC 2025 Day 4 Problem 3
Let $ABCD$ be a cyclic quadrilateral with circumcentre $O$ and circumcircle $\Gamma$. Let $T$ be the intersection of tangents at $B$ and $C$ to $\Gamma$. Let $\omega$ be the circumcircle of triangle $TBC$ and let $M(\neq T)$, $N(\neq T)$ denote the second intersections of $TA,TD$ with $\omega$ respectively. Let $AD$ and $BC$ intersect at $E$ and $\Omega$ be the circumcircle of triangle $EMN$. If $AD$ intersects $\Omega$ again at $X \neq E$, prove that the line tangent to $\Omega$ at $X$ is also tangent to $\omega$.

Proposed by Malay Mahajan and Siddharth Choppara
3 replies
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:47 PM
pingupignu
an hour ago
One of P or Q lies on circle
Rijul saini   6
N an hour ago by ZVFrozel
Source: LMAO 2025 Day 1 Problem 3
Let $ABC$ be an acute triangle with orthocenter $H$. Let $M$ be the midpoint of $BC$, and $K$ be the intersection of the tangents from $B$ and $C$ to the circumcircle of $ABC$. Denote by $\Omega$ the circle centered at $H$ and tangent to line $AM$.

Suppose $AK$ intersects $\Omega$ at two distinct points $X$, $Y$.
Lines $BX$ and $CY$ meet at $P$, while lines $BY$ and $CX$ meet at $Q$. Prove that either $P$ or $Q$ lies on $\Omega$.

Proposed by MV Adhitya, Archit Manas and Arnav Nanal
6 replies
+1 w
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:59 PM
ZVFrozel
an hour ago
Polynomial strategy game
Rijul saini   1
N an hour ago by everythingpi3141592
Source: India IMOTC 2025 Day 1 Problem 3
Let $N \geqslant 2024!$ be a positive integer. Alice and Bob play the following game, with Alice going first after which they alternate turns. They determine the numbers $a_0,a_1, a_2, \ldots, a_{2025}$ in the following way.

On the $k$th turn, the player whose turn it is sets $a_{k-1}$ to be an integer such that:
$\bullet$ $1\leqslant a_{k-1}\leqslant N$
$\bullet$ There exists a polynomial $P$ with integer coefficients and $ P(i) = a_i$ for $0 \leqslant i \leqslant k-1$

Alice wins if and only if Bob is unable to pick a value in one of his moves i.e. $a_{1}, a_3,\ldots$. In particular, she also loses if Bob is able to pick $a_{2025}$ successfully.
Determine all values of $N$ for which Alice can ensure that she wins regardless of Bob's strategy.

Proposed by Atul Shatavart Nadig and Rohan Goyal
1 reply
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 6:31 PM
everythingpi3141592
an hour ago
One of the lines is tangent
Rijul saini   4
N an hour ago by ZVFrozel
Source: LMAO 2025 Day 2 Problem 2
Let $ABC$ be a scalene triangle with incircle $\omega$. Denote by $N$ the midpoint of arc $BAC$ in the circumcircle of $ABC$, and by $D$ the point where the $A$-excircle touches $BC$. Suppose the circumcircle of $AND$ meets $BC$ again at $P \neq D$ and intersects $\omega$ at two points $X$, $Y$.

Prove that either $PX$ or $PY$ is tangent to $\omega$.

Proposed by Sanjana Philo Chacko
4 replies
Rijul saini
Yesterday at 7:02 PM
ZVFrozel
an hour ago
Circumcenter lies on altitude
ABCDE   59
N 2 hours ago by Ilikeminecraft
Source: 2016 ELMO Problem 2
Oscar is drawing diagrams with trash can lids and sticks. He draws a triangle $ABC$ and a point $D$ such that $DB$ and $DC$ are tangent to the circumcircle of $ABC$. Let $B'$ be the reflection of $B$ over $AC$ and $C'$ be the reflection of $C$ over $AB$. If $O$ is the circumcenter of $DB'C'$, help Oscar prove that $AO$ is perpendicular to $BC$.

James Lin
59 replies
ABCDE
Jun 24, 2016
Ilikeminecraft
2 hours ago
OreINMO: My stepfunction cannot be this linear
anantmudgal09   15
N 2 hours ago by shendrew7
Source: INMO 2023 P3
Let $\mathbb N$ denote the set of all positive integers. Find all real numbers $c$ for which there exists a function $f:\mathbb N\to \mathbb N$ satisfying:
[list]
[*] for any $x,a\in\mathbb N$, the quantity $\frac{f(x+a)-f(x)}{a}$ is an integer if and only if $a=1$;
[*] for all $x\in \mathbb N$, we have $|f(x)-cx|<2023$.
[/list]

Proposed by Sutanay Bhattacharya
15 replies
anantmudgal09
Jan 15, 2023
shendrew7
2 hours ago
a_0 , a_1 are coprime in integer polynomial with n rel. prime integer roots
parmenides51   4
N 3 hours ago by pudim37
Source: Hong Kong TST - HKTST 2024 1.1
Let $n$ be a positive integer larger than $1$, and let $a_0,a_1,\dots,a_{n-1}$ be integers. It is known that the equation $$x^n+a_{n-1}x^{n-1}+a_{n-2}x^{n-2}+\cdots+a_1x+a_0=0$$has $n$ pairwise relatively prime integer roots. Prove that $a_0$ and $a_1$ are relatively prime.
4 replies
parmenides51
Jul 20, 2024
pudim37
3 hours ago
Balkan Mathematical Olympiad 2018 P4
microsoft_office_word   32
N Apr 26, 2025 by Ilikeminecraft
Source: BMO 2018
Find all primes $p$ and $q$ such that $3p^{q-1}+1$ divides $11^p+17^p$

Proposed by Stanislav Dimitrov,Bulgaria
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microsoft_office_word
May 9, 2018
Ilikeminecraft
Apr 26, 2025
Balkan Mathematical Olympiad 2018 P4
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Find all primes $p$ and $q$ such that $3p^{q-1}+1$ divides $11^p+17^p$

Proposed by Stanislav Dimitrov,Bulgaria
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The problem was proposed by Stanislav Dimitrov from Bulgaria
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Is it plus or minus?
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The problem is quite similar to APMO 2012 and Turkey EGMO TST 2016.Just looking at order and quite difficult caseworks
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sorry forgot the statement.
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I think it is plus. Method?
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Just take $3p^{q-1}+1=4^k 7^m t$. where $(t,14)=1$
and note that $t\equiv 1 \pmod p$.
And it is easy to show that $k\le 2$ and that $m\le 1$
then take both sides $\pmod p$ and finish small cases
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why $m \leq 1$ ?
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$LTE$ yields that
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rightways wrote:
Just take $3p^{q-1}+1=4^k 7^m t$. where $(t,14)=1$
and note that $t\equiv 1 \pmod p$.
And it is easy to show that $k\le 2$ and that $m\le 1$
then take both sides $\pmod p$ and finish small cases

Nice rightways, thanks
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Indeed, $(p,q)=(3,3)$ is the only solution. If $p=2$ one can easily check that there are no solutions so suppose $p\ge 3$.

Suppose that $q$ is odd; this gives $v_2(3p^{q-1}+1)=2$. Take $r$ an odd prime dividing $3p^{q-1}+1$. Then $r$ divides $11^p+17^p$. As $11$ and $17$ are coprime, we get that $r$ divides $a^p+1$, where $a=11\cdot 17^{-1} (\mathrm{mod}\ r)$. Thus, $r$ divides $a^{2p}-1$ so the order of $a$ mod $r$ has to divide $2p$. If the order is $1$ or $p$), then $r$ divides both $a^p-1$ and $a^p+1$, so $r$ divides $2$, a contradiction. If the order is $2$, as $r$ divides $a^p+1$, we get that $r$ divides $a+1$ so $r$ divides $28$ and hence $r=7$. Otherwise the order is $2p$ so $2p$ divides $r-1$. Thus, if $3p^{q-1}+1=7^t4r_1^{a_1}....r_k^{a_k}$ for some odd distinct primes $r_i$ and some nonnegative integer $t\ge 0$ (which by LTE is less or equal to $2$), by the previous we have $r_i\equiv 1 (\mathrm{mod}\ p)$ so $3p^{q-1}+1\equiv 4,28, 196(\mathrm{mod}\ p)$ and thereby we get $p\in \{3,5,13\}$. A quick check gives $q=3$ the only possibility.

If $q=2$, we have $3p+1$ divides $11^p+17^p$. If $3p+1$ is not a power of two, proceeding as in the previous case we get that any odd prime divisor of $3p+1$ must be congruent with $1$ mod $2p$. As $3p+1$ is even, we get that $3p+1\ge 2(2p-1)$ which gives again $p=3$ so $q=3$, a contradiction. Thus $3p+1=2^k$ for some positive integer $k$. Clearly $k$ has to be even, $k=2\ell$ so $3p=(2^{\ell}-1)(2^{\ell}+1)$. As $(2^{\ell}-1,2^{\ell}+1)=1$ and $2^{\ell}-1<2^{\ell}+1$ we get that either $2^{\ell}-1=1,\ 2^{\ell}+1=3p$ or $2^{\ell}-1=3,\ 2^{\ell}+1=p$. We therefore infer that either $p=3$ (in which case again $q=3$ but we supposed $q=2$) or $p=5$. However, $p=5$ and $q=2$ would give $16$ dividing $11^5+17^5$, a contradiction.
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Reason: I should not attempt Olympiad problems after so long. This solution is still incomplete, but I have lost my patience. One still needs to check a little more cases in the case when q=2 because 7 can also pop up in 3p+1.
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Let $r$ be an odd prime dividing $3p^{q-1}+1$, so consequently $r$ divides $11^p+17^p$. ( if $p$ is odd we have that $3p^{q-1}+1 \equiv 4 \pmod 8$, and since this number is clearly bigger than $4$, we know that it must have an odd prime divisor, and if $p$ is $2$, our number is odd, and so our hypothesis is obvious)
If $p$ is $2$ we verify by hand.
We have that $11^p \equiv -17^p \pmod r$, so $(\frac {11}{17})^{2p} \equiv 1 \pmod r$. Let the order of $(\frac {11}{17})$ be $x$. Thus, $x$ divides both $r-1$ and $2p$ and, since it can't be odd, it has to be either $2$ or $2p$. If it is $2$, we then have that $r$ divides $168$ and, since $r$ is odd and not $3$, it has to be $7$. If $x$ is $2p$, we have that $r \equiv 1 \pmod {2p}$. Taking these into consideration, we get that $3p^{q-1}+1=4^m7^ny$, where $(y,14)=1$ and $y\equiv 1 \pmod p$. By LTE, we have that $n$ is $2$ if $p=7$(we verify by hand), or $n\le 1$. Also, $m=1$.
Taking $\pmod p$, we get that $1 \equiv 4,28 \pmod p$, so $0 \equiv 3, 27 \pmod p$. Thus, $p=3$ and, after some casework, $q=3$. Thus, the only solution is $(3,3)$.
Edit:
Oops, forgot about $q=2$. If there exists a prime $r$ that divides $3p+1$ and $r$ is not $7$, we proceed as previously. if $3p+1$ is a power of $2$, then it's exponent has to be even.
Thus, $3p=(2^x-1)(2^x+1)$, and so $x$ is $1$ or $2$, which means that $p$ is either $3$ or $5$. We get a contradiction for both cases.
If $7$ divides $3p+1$, then $3p+1=2^k7$. $11^p$ is either $3$ or $1$ $\pmod 8$, and $17^p$ is $1$ $\pmod p$. Thus, $k\le 2$, and we verify the cases by hand.
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Illuzion wrote:
why $m \leq 1$ ?

Hamel wrote:
$LTE$ yields that

Can someone please elaborate this ?? I am new to LTE ....
I mean how do we bound $\nu _{(7)} 3p^{q-1}+ 1$
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Aryan-23 wrote:
Illuzion wrote:
why $m \leq 1$ ?

Hamel wrote:
$LTE$ yields that

Can someone please elaborate this ?? I am new to LTE ....
I mean how do we bound $\nu _{(7)} 3p^{q-1}+ 1$

you dont!
you use LTE to show V7 of the right hand side is 1.
so the left hand side can not be devisible by 49.
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Oh yeah , stupid me , thanks :)
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Solution from OTIS office hours:

The answer is $(3,3)$ only which works. We first dispense of several edge cases:
  • One can check $p=2$ has no solutions.
  • One can check $p=3$ has only the solution $(3,3)$.

Claim: Every prime dividing $11^p+17^p$ is either $2$, $7$, or $1 \pmod p$.
Proof. Consider a prime $r$ which divides $11^p+17^p$. Evidently $r \ne 17$. Apparently, $(-11/17)^p \equiv 1 \pmod r$, so either $-11/17 \equiv 1 \pmod r$ meaning $r \mid 28$, or $-11/17$ has order $p$, as needed. $\blacksquare$
Thus, we find $3p^{q-1}+1$ is the product of $2$, $7$, and $1 \pmod p$ primes. We now consider some new cases:
  • If $p \ne 7$ and $q \ne 2$, then $3p^{q-1}+1 \equiv 4 \pmod 8$, while $\nu_7(11^p+17^p) = 1$. Thus, we must have \[ 3p^{q-1} + 1 = 2^2 \cdot 7^{0\text{ or }1} \cdot 		\left( \text{$1 \bmod p$ primes} \right). \]This gives that either $1 \equiv 4 \pmod p$ or $1 \equiv 28 \pmod p$, but this gives $p = 3$.
  • If $p = 7$, the same analysis holds except that the exponent of $7$ must be exactly equal to $0$ (despite $\nu_7(11^p+17^p)=2$).
  • If $q=2$, the same argument works except that we need the additional observation that $11^p+17^p \not\equiv 0 \pmod 8$; hence \[ 3p + 1 = 2^{1\text{ or }2} \cdot 7^{0\text{ or }1} \cdot 		\left( \text{$1 \bmod p$ primes} \right). \]Hence we have one extra case $(p,q) = (13,2)$ to check, which fails.
This gives a complete proof that $(p,q) = (3,3)$ is the only solution.
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microsoft_office_word wrote:
Find all primes $p$ and $q$ such that $3p^{q-1}+1$ divides $11^p+17^p$

Proposed by Stanislav Dimitrov,Bulgaria

For $p = 2$ there are no solutions. We begin like v_enhance, so if $q \lvert 11^p + 17^p$, then $q = 2, 7$ or $q \equiv 1 \pmod{p}$. Looking at $\pmod{32}$, there are no solutions so $2^4$ is maximum value of $\nu _ 2(3p^{q-1} + 1)$ and similarly $\nu _ 3(3p^{q-1} + 1) \leq 1$. Now, annoying casework gives $(p, q) = \boxed{(3, 3)}$ as the only solutions.
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arshiya381 wrote:
Aryan-23 wrote:
Illuzion wrote:
why $m \leq 1$ ?

Hamel wrote:
$LTE$ yields that

Can someone please elaborate this ?? I am new to LTE ....
I mean how do we bound $\nu _{(7)} 3p^{q-1}+ 1$

you dont!
you use LTE to show V7 of the right hand side is 1.
so the left hand side can not be devisible by 49.

how do you get $\nu_7(11^p+17^p) = 1$?
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The answer is $(p,q)=(3,3)$ only, which clearly works. We can verify that for $p=2$ no solutions exist, and for $p=3$ we only have $q=3$. Henceforth assume $p>3$ We now begin with the following important claim:

Claim: If a prime $n$ divides $11^p+17^p$, then $n=2,7$ or $n \equiv 1 \pmod{2p}$.
Proof: Let $n$ be such a prime. Clearly $n \neq 11,17$. Then we have
$$11^p+17^p \equiv 0 \pmod{n} \implies \left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^p \equiv -1 \pmod{n} \implies \left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^{2p} \equiv 1.$$For convenience, let $a=\tfrac{11}{17}$. Then we have $\mathrm{ord}_n(a) \mid 2p$ but $\mathrm{ord}_n(a) \nmid p$, so either $\mathrm{ord}_n(a)=2$ or $\mathrm{ord}_n(a)=2p$. If the former is true, then we have $\tfrac{11}{17} \equiv -1 \pmod{n} \implies 28 \equiv 0 \pmod{n}$, which gives $n \in \{2,7\}$. If the latter is true, then since $\mathrm{ord}_n(a) \mid n-1$, we have $p \mid 2p \mid n-1 \implies n \equiv 1 \pmod{p}$, which is the desired conclusion. $\blacksquare$

Since $3p^{q-1}+1$ is a divisor of $11^p+17^p$, it follows that $3p^{q-1}+1$ is the product of $2,7$ and primes $1 \pmod{2p}$. Further, we have
$$11^p+17^p \equiv 3^p+1 \equiv 4 \pmod{8}$$as $p$ is odd, so $\nu_2(11^p+17^p)=2$. Now suppose that $q \neq 2$. In this case, $q-1$ is even, so $3p^{q-1}+1 \equiv 3+1 \equiv 0 \pmod{4}$, so we require $ \nu_2(3p^{q-1}+1)=2$. Further, by exponent lifting we have $\nu_7(11^p+17^p)=\nu_7(28)+\nu_7(p)$, so it follows that
$$3p^{q-1}+1=4\cdot 7^\epsilon\cdot P,$$where $P$ is the product of primes that are $1 \pmod{2p}$ and $\epsilon \in \{0,1\}$this is because if $p \neq 7$ we have $\nu_7(11^p+17^p)$ and if $p=7$ we have $7 \nmid 3p^{q-1}+1$ anyways. Note that $P \equiv 1 \pmod{2p}$. Now taking $\pmod{p}$, we have $3p^{q-1}+1 \equiv 4\cdot 7^\epsilon \pmod{p}$, which is either $4$ or $28$. But we also have $3p^{q-1}+1 \equiv 1 \pmod{p}$, so either $p \mid 3$ or $p \mid 27$, giving $p=3$. Since we supposed $p>3$ this case gives no additional solutions
If $q=2$, then we need $\nu_2(3p^{q-1}+1) \in \{1,2\}$. Similarly to the previous case, if $p=7$ then $7 \nmid 3p^{q-1}+1$, otherwise we have $\nu_7(3p^{q-1}+1)\leq 7$, so
$$3p^{q-1}+1=2\cdot2^{\epsilon_1}\cdot 7^{\epsilon_2}\cdot P,$$where $P$ is the product of primes $1 \pmod{2p}$ and $\epsilon_1,\epsilon_2 \in \{0,1\}$. LIke the previous case, this means that at least one of $\{2,4,14,28\}$ is $1 \pmod{p}$, but these respectively imply that $p \mid 1, p \mid 3, p \mid 13, p \mid 27$. Since $p>3$, the only possibility is therefore $p=13$. But we can manually check that $(p,q)=(13,2)$ fails, so $(3,3)$ is the only solution. $\blacksquare$
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Let $r$ be any prime dividing $3p^{q-1} + 1$. Clearly $r\neq 11,17$. Hence, we can write $a\equiv \frac{17}{11}\pmod{r}$ so that $a^p\equiv -1\pmod{r}$. It follows that $\text{ord}_r(a)\in\{2, 2p\}$, so either $r| 28$ or $r\equiv 1\pmod{2p}$. We have several cases.

Case 1: $q = 2$. We can manually verify that $p = 2$ does not work, so $p$ is odd. Moreover, clearly $2p+1$ does not divide $3p+1$, so the only prime divisors of $3p+1$ are $2$ and $7$. If $49 | 3p+1$, then $p\neq 7$ so $7 || 11^p + 17^p$ by LTE, a contradiction. Hence, $v_7(3p + 1) \le 1$. But since $p$ is odd, $v_2(3p+1)\le v_2\left(11^p + 17^p\right) = v_2(11 + 17) = 2$. Combining these results, we obtain $3p + 1 | 28$. However, the only solution to this is $p = 2$, which we have already checked.

Case 2: $p = 2$. We can manually verify that there are no solutions in this case.

In all remaining cases, $p$ and $q$ are odd and consequently $3p^{q-1} + 1\equiv 4\pmod{8}$.

Case 3: $p = 3$. We can manually verify that the only solution in this case is $q = 3$.

Case 4: $p = 7$. Then $7$ does not divide $3p^{q-1} + 1$, so $\frac{3\cdot 7^{q-1} + 1}{4}\equiv 1\pmod{7}$, a contradiction.

Case 5: $q\neq 2$ and $p\not\in \{2,3,7\}$. By LTE, $v_7\left(11^p + 17^p\right) = v_7(11+17) = 1$. It follows that either $\frac{3p^{q-1} + 1}{4}$ or $\frac{3p^{q-1} + 1}{28}$ is equivalent to $1$ mod $p$, a contradiction as $p\neq 3$.

In summary, the only solution is $(p,q) = \boxed{(3,3)}$.
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wait is the condition that q is prime necessary (other than, say, parity and divisibility reasons)
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Note: All of the $\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)$'s in the proof are the actual fraction, not the value of the Legendre/Jacobi symbol.

Lemma 1. Let $r$ be a prime that divides $3p^{q-1}+1$. Then $r\in\{2,7\}$ or $r\equiv 1\pmod{2p}$.
Proof. $r=17$ obviously fails, so \[r\mid\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^p+1.\]If we let $a=\text{ord}_r\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)$, we have $a\mid 2p$. Also, we have that $a\nmid p$ unless $r=2$(which is one of the cases anyway), so $a\in\{2,2p\}$. If $a=2$, then \[r\mid \left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^2-1\rightarrow r\mid 121-289\rightarrow r\mid 168\rightarrow r\in\{2,3,7\}.\]But $r=3$ would imply $a=1$, so $r\in\{2,7\}$. Otherwise, $a=2p$, so $2p\mid r-1$, completing our proof.

Lemma 2. If $q\ne 2$, then $p\in\{2,3\}$.
Proof. Suppose that $p\ne 2$. Since $q$ is odd, $p^{q-1}$ is a square, so let $b^2=p^{q-1}$ and $b\in\mathbb{Z}^+$. Taking mod $8$, we have
\[\nu_2\left(3b^2+1\right)=2.\]Also,
\[\nu_7\left(3b^2+1\right)\le \nu_7\left(11^p+17^p\right)=1+\nu_7(p)=\begin{cases}1&p\ne7\\2&p=7\end{cases}.\]Thus $1\equiv 3b^2+1\pmod p$ has to be equivalent to at least one of $2^2$, $2^2\cdot 7$, and $2^2\cdot 7^2$ mod $p$. So $p\mid 3$, $p\mid 27$, or $p\mid 195$. Since $7\nmid 195$, that case doesn't work, so $p=3$, which is what we wanted.

Lemma 3. If $q=2$, then $\nu_2(3p+1)\le 3$ and $\nu_7(3p+1)\le 2$.
Proof. We have the following by LTE:
\[\nu_2(3p+1)\le\nu_2\left(11^p+17^p\right)\le\nu_2(11+17)+\nu_2(p)\le 3\]\[\nu_7(3p+1)\le\nu_7\left(11^p+17^p\right)\le\nu_7(11+17)+\nu_7(p)\le 2.\]
It then remains to casework using the cases from lemma 2.
Case 1, $p=2$: Then $11^2+17^2=121+289=410$, so \[3\cdot 2^{q-1}+1\in\{1,2,5,10,41,82,205,410\}.\]Then \[2^{q-1}\in\{0,3,27,68\},\]so there are no solutions in this case.

Case 2, $p=3$: Then
\[11^3+17^3=(11+17)\left(17^2-11\cdot 17+11^2\right)=28\cdot 223.\]Therefore,
\[3^q+1\in\{1,2,4,7,14,28,223,446,892,1561,3122,6244\}.\]We can see that
\[3^q\in\{0,1,3,6,13,27,222,445,891,1560,3121,6243\}\rightarrow 3^q\in\{3,27\}.\]But $q=1$ is not a prime, so only $(p,q)=(3,3)$ works here.

Case 3, $q=2$: Then \[3p+1\mid 11^p+17^p.\]By lemma 1, all prime factors of $3p+1$ are either $2$, $7$, or $1$ mod $2p$. In the third case, $4p+1$ is too big, so $2p+1\mid 3p+1$, absurd. So
\[3p+1=2^m 7^n\]for nonnegative integers $m,n$ where $m\le 3$ and $n\le 2$(by lemma 3). Therefore,
\[3p+1\in\{1,2,4,8,7,14,28,56,49,98,196,392\}.\]This implies that
\[p\in\{0,1,2,9,16,65\},\]all of which are impossible.

Combining all cases, our answer is just $(p,q)=\boxed{(3,3)}$, which obviously works. QED.
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This is such an incredibly boring but also slightly difficult problem.

Let $p_1$ be a prime that divides $3p^{q-1} + 1$. Then as $p_1 \mid 11^p + 17^p$, either $p_1 \equiv 1 \pmod p$ or $p_1 \mid 28$.

The rest of the problem is finding constraints on $\nu_2(3p^{q-1} + 1)$. Notice that if $p, q$ are both odd primes, then $\nu_2(3p^{q-1} + 1) = 2$ precisely. On the other hand, $2$ is not a quadratic residue mod $7$, so this means that $7 \nmid 3p^{q-1} + 1$. But this means now that $4 \equiv 1 \pmod p$ as $$3p^{q-1} + 1 \equiv 1 \pmod p,$$so $p=3$, and correspondingly $q = 3$ too.

Now if $q = 2$, then note that $\nu_2(3p+1) \leq 2$ and $\nu_7(3p+1) \leq 1$, which upon a finite case check yields no solutions.

Thus $(3, 3)$ is the only solution.
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Notice that if $p, q$ are both odd primes, then $\nu_2(3p^{q-1} + 1) = 2$ precisely.

No. Try $p=3$, $q=7$ for example
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Very hard. What.

Assume that $p$ and $q$ are odd primes. Note that $\nu_2(3p^{q-1} + 1) = 2$ and hence due to size reasons we must have an odd prime factor $r$. Now consider a prime factor of $11^p + 7^p$, say $t$. Then we have,
\begin{align*}
\left(\frac{-11}{7}\right)^{2p} &\equiv 1 \pmod{t}
\end{align*}Then we have $\text{ord}_t(-11 \cdot 7^{-1}) \mid 2p$. Then either $-11 \equiv 7 \pmod{t}$ and hence $t \mid 28$, or we have $2p \mid t - 1 \iff t \equiv 1 \pmod{2p}$. Then all prime factors of $11^p + 7^p$ are $1$, $2$ or $7$ modulo $2p$. As a result all prime factors of $3p^{q-1} + 1$ are equal to $2$ or $7$ or are congruent to $1$ modulo $2p$. Now note that $\nu_7(3p^{q-1} + 1) \leq 1$ as if $p \neq 7$ it is easy to see that $\nu_7(11^p + 17^p) = 1$ else if $p = 7$, then $\nu_7(3 \cdot 7^{q-1} + 1) = 0$. Assume $7 \mid 3p^{q-1} + 1$. However then,
\begin{align*}
3p^{q-1} + 1 \equiv 0 \pmod{7}\\
p^{q-1} \equiv 2 \pmod{7}
\end{align*}However as $2$ is a NQR modulo $7$ we cannot have $7 \mid 3p^{q-1} + 1$. Thus $3p^{q-1} + 1 = 4 \cdot P$ where $P$ is the product of primes congruent to $1$ modulo $2p$. However then obviously we require $3p^{q-1} + 1 \equiv 4 \pmod{p}$ or $3 \equiv 0 \pmod{p}$ and hence $p = 3$. Now we then have,
\begin{align*}
3^q + 1 \mid 11^3 + 17^3
\end{align*}from which we find $q = 3$. Now if $q = 2$ we find,
\begin{align*}
3p + 1 \mid 11^p + 17^p
\end{align*}Note that from our claim the primes dividing $3p+1$ are $2$, $7$ or are $1$ modulo $2p$. Clearly $2p + 1 \nmid 3p + 1$ and we require $\nu_p(3p + 1) \leq 7$ and $\nu_p(3p + 1) = 2$. Hence $3p + 1 = 2^x7^y$ and a finite case check leads to no solutions.
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The answer is $\boxed{(p,q)=(3,3)}$, which clearly works.


Claim 1: Let $r$ be a prime that divides $3p^{q-1}+1$. Either $r=2$, $r=7$, or $r \equiv 1 \pmod{2p}$.

Proof: $r$ obviously cannot be $17$, and $r=2$ clearly works, so assume $r \neq 2, 17$ for the remainder of this proof. We write

\[r \mid \left(\frac{11}{17}\right)+1,\]
meaning the order of $\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)$ modulo $r$ divides $2p$; denote this order as $o$ Furthermore, $o$ does not divide $p$, so $o$ can be $2$ or $2p$. If $o=2$,

\[\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^2 \equiv 1 \pmod{r} \implies -168 \equiv 0 \pmod{r} \implies r \in \{3,7\}.\]
Manually checking each case gives a contradiction for $r=3$, so $r=7$ is the only extra case here.

If $o=2p$, we have $2p \mid r-1$, which gives the last solution set. $\square$


Claim 2: If $p, q \neq 2$, then $p=3$.

Proof: Suppose that $p \neq 7$. Let $a$ be the positive integer such that $a^2 = p^{q-1}$. Notice that

\[3a^2+1 \equiv 4 \pmod{8}.\]
Also,

\[\nu_7(3a^2+1) \le \nu_7(11^p+17^p) = 1+ \nu_7(p) =1.\]
Some quick analysis yields

\[3a^2+1 \equiv 2^2, 2^2 \cdot 7 \pmod{p}\]\[\implies 1 \equiv 4 \pmod{p} \ \textbf{ or } \ 1 \equiv 28 \pmod{p}.\]
This implies that $p=3$. If $p=7$, we must analogously have

\[1 \equiv 196 \pmod{p},\]
a contradiction. $\square$


Now, we break this problem into cases:

If $p=2$, we have

\[3 \cdot 2^{q-1}+1 \mid 410\]\[\implies 2^{q-1} \in \{0,3,27,68\},\]
which is impossible.

If $p=3$, we have

\[3^q+1 \mid 6244\]\[\implies 3^q \in \{0,1,3,6,13,27,222,445,891,1560,3121,6243\}.\]
This makes the only solution $q=3$.

If $q=2$, we have

\[3p+1 \mid 11^p+17^p.\]
Claim 1 gives us that the only prime factors of $3p+1$ are $2$, $7$, or $2kp+1$ for some positive integer $k$. Clearly, the latter case is out of the question, so we have that

\[3p+1 = 2^m7^n.\]
Notice that

\[\nu_2(3p+1) \le \nu_2(11^p+17^p) \le 3\]\[\nu_2(3p+1) \le \nu_2(11^p+17^p) \le 2.\]
At this point, there are a finite amount of values for $3p+1$, which yield

\[p\in\{0,1,2,9,16,65\},\]
after some computation. This is a contradiction, so there are no solutions in this case either.

Adding up all the solutions from the three cases gives the desired answer.
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We will deal with the cases \(q = 2\), \(p = 2\), and \(p = 7\) later, so assume none of these are true.

\textbf{Claim 1:} If \(r\) is a prime such that \(r \mid 3p^{q - 1} + 1\), then \(r \equiv 1 \mod{p}\) or \(r \mid 28\).

\[ r \mid 3p^{q - 1} + 1 \implies 11^p + 17^p \equiv 0 \mod{r} \implies \left(\frac{-11}{17}\right)^p \equiv 1 \mod{r} \]
Let \(k\) be the order of \(\frac{-11}{17} \mod r\). We have \(k \mid (p, r - 1) = 1, p\). If \(k = 1\), then

\[ r \mid \frac{-11}{17} - 1 \implies r \mid 28 \implies r = 2, 7 \]
If \((p, r - 1) = p\), we have \(p \mid r - 1 \implies r \equiv 1 \mod{p}\).

\textbf{Claim 2:} \(v_2(3p^{q - 1} + 1) = 2\)

Since \(q - 1\) is even and \(p\) is odd,

\[ p^{q - 1} \equiv 1 \mod{8} \implies 3p^{q - 1} + 1 \equiv 4 \mod{8} \]
So let

\[ 3p^{q - 1} + 1 = 2^2 \cdot 7^\alpha \cdot p_1^{\alpha_1} \cdots p_k^{\alpha_k} \]
where \(p_1 \equiv p_2 \equiv \cdots \equiv p_k \equiv 1 \mod{p}\).

\textbf{Claim 3:} \(p = 3\), \(q = 3\)

From LTE, we have

\[ v_7(11^p + 17^p) = v_7(28) + v_7(p) = 1 \]
Therefore \(\alpha = 0, 1\), and

\[ 2^2 \cdot 7^\alpha \cdot p_1^{\alpha_1} \cdots p_k^{\alpha_k} \equiv 28, 4 \equiv 1 \mod{p} \]
So \(p \mid 27, 3 \implies p = 3\).

So, we have

\[ 3^q + 1 \mid 11^3 + 17^3 = 6244 = 7 \cdot 4 \cdot 223 \]
which quickly yields \(q = 3\).

If \(p = 2\), we have

\[ 3 \cdot 2^q + 1 \mid 11^2 + 17^2 = 410 \]
which yields no solutions.

If \(q = 2\), we have

\[ 3p + 1 \mid 11^p + 17^p \]
Here, \(v_2(3p + 1) = 1\), which means \(14 \equiv 1 \mod{p}\), or \(p = 13\), and \(q = 2\), which doesn't work.

If \(p = 7\),

\[ v_7(11^p + 17^p) = 2 \]
so the power of 7 in \(3p^{q - 1} + 1\) can be \(0, 1, 2\), where \(0, 1\) yield the same cases as earlier and \(2\) yields

\[ 196 \equiv 1 \mod{p} \implies p \mid 195 \]
which is impossible as \(7 \nmid 195\).

So, our only solution is \((3, 3)\).
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Let $r$ be a prime factor of $3p^{q-1}+1$. Then we have that either $r = 7$ or $r\equiv 1 \pmod{p}$
Now observe that if $r_1,r_2, \dots r_i$ be all the prime factors of $3p^{q-1}+1$ we have that all $r_i \equiv 1 \pmod{p}$.
But then as $3p^{q-1}+1 = r_1^{\alpha_1}r_2^{\alpha_2}\dots r_i^{\alpha_i} = (pk_1 + 1)^{\alpha_1}(pk_2)^{\alpha_2}\dots (pk_i)^{\alpha_i}$
Here if prime factors is greater than $3$ then we have that the term with $p$ in the product on RHS is even while on LHS it is odd contradiction.
Hence only $2,3,7$ can be the prime factors of $3p^{q-1}+1$, then a case bash gives $(3,3)$ as the only solution.
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Take a prime $r$ such that it divides $3p^{q-1}+1$ so $\text{ord}_{r}\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)=2$ or $2p$, so $r=2,7$ or $r\equiv 1 \pmod{2p}$.
Note that if $7\mid3p^{q-1}+1$ then we get $p^{q-1}\equiv 2\pmod{7}$ which is not possible.
Now, $\nu_7(11^p+17^p)=\nu_7(28)+\nu_7(p)=1$. We check for $p=2$ which gives us $3\cdot 2^{q-1}+1\mid 410$ which is not possible. For $p=3$ we have $3^q+1\mid 6244$, after case-bash we get $q=3$.
If $p\neq7$ then we have $\nu_7(11^p+17^p)=1$, if $p=7,$ then $\nu_7(3\cdot 7^{p-1}+1)=0$. So $3p^{q-1}+1\equiv 2^2\cdot 7, 2^2\pmod{p}$, this gives us $(p,q)=(3,3)$ to be a solution.
For $q=2$ we have $3p+1\mid 11^p+17^p$, since $3p+1$ cannot be written as $1\pmod{2p}$, so it is of the form $2^i7^j$, also we can write it as $3p+1\mid 11^p+17^p$ and because $\nu_2(3p+1)=1$ we have $p=13\implies q=2$, which does not work.
So our only answer is $\boxed{(p,q)=(3,3)}$.
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Only solution is (3,3)

Let $r$ be a prime dividing $3p^{q-1}+1$, then we get by taking the inverse $\frac{11^p}{17^p}$ congruent to 1, giving either $r$ being $2,7$ or 2p divides r-1, for the second case, $3p^{q-1}+1$ is congruent to $1$ modulo 2p, which is impossible for p odd prime. Using LTE on $11^p+17^p$ for $7$, we get that, the most $7$ power is 1 and $8$ can never divide $11^p+17^p$, this means that $3p^{q-1}+1 = 7.2^n$ where $n \leq 2$, check the remaining cases.
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Take any prime $r \geq 3$ which divides $3p^{q-1}+1$, so $r \mid 11^p + 17^p$ and thus $\text{ord}_{r}\left(11 \cdot 17^{-1}\right)=2$ or $2p$, giving $r=2,7$ or $r\equiv 1 \pmod{2p}$.

Suppose $p\geq 3$. Then $\nu_2(11^p + 17^p) = 2$ (by mod $8$) and $\nu_7(11^p + 17^p) = \nu_7(28) + \nu_7(p)$ (by Lifting the Exponent) which is $1$ if $p\neq 7$ and $2$ if $p=7$. So $\nu_7(3p^{q-1} + 1) \leq 1$ (for $p=7$ actually it is $0$) and $\nu_2(3p^{q-1} + 1) \leq 2$ Hence \[ 3p^{q-1} + 1 = 2^{\leq 2}7^{\leq 1} \
\cdot \ (\mbox{primes } \equiv 1 \pmod{2p}). \]Taking the latter mod $p$ yields $p = 2, 3, 13$. Since $11^2 + 17^2 = 2 \cdot 5 \cdot 41$, checking $3 \cdot 2^{q-1} + 1 \mid 5 \cdot 41$ gives no solution. For $11^3 + 17^3 = 28 \cdot (17^2 - 17 \cdot 11 + 11^2) = 2^2 \cdot 7 \cdot 223$ checking $\displaystyle \frac{3^{q}+1}{2} \mid 2\cdot 7 \cdot 223$ gives $q=3$, so $(3,3)$ is a solution. If $p=13 = 2\cdot 7 - 1$, then the right-hand side above must be divisible by $7$, but then mod $7$ yields $3\cdot (-1)^{q-1} + 1 \equiv 0$, contradiction for any positive integer $q$.

Remark. We did not use anywhere that $q$ is prime!
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The only solution is $\boxed{(p,q) = (3,3)}$, which works.

Claim: Any prime divisor $r\mid 11^p + 17^p$ satisfies $r\in \{2,7\}$ or $r\equiv 1\pmod{2p}$.
Proof: Let $r$ be a prime divisor of $11^p + 17^p$ and $r\ne 2,7$.

We have \[11^p + 17^p \equiv 0\pmod r\]
This implies that \[\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^{p}\equiv -1\pmod r,\]so \[\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^{2p}\equiv 1\pmod r\]
Thus $\mathrm{ord}_r \left(\frac{11}{17}\right)$ divides $2p$ but not $p$, so it must be either $2$ or $2p$.

If $\mathrm{ord}_r \left(\frac{11}{17}\right) = 2$, then we have \[r\mid 17^ 2- 11^2 = 168\]Since $r$ is odd, $\frac{11}{17} \not\equiv 1\pmod r$, so $r\ne 3$. This implies $r=7$, which we assumed to not be true.

If $\mathrm{ord}_r\left(\frac{11}{17}\right) = 2p$, then $2p\mid r-1$, $r\equiv 1\pmod{2p}$, as desired. $\square$

Claim: $p\ne 2,7$
Proof: If $p=2$, then \[3\cdot 2^{q-1} + 1 \mid 410\]It's easy to check this is not possible.

If $p=7$, then \[3\cdot 7^{q-1} + 1 \mid 11^7 + 17^7\]Since $22\nmid 11^7 + 17^7$, $q=2$ doesn't work. Now assume $q$ is odd. We have $\nu_2(3\cdot 7^{q-1} + 1) = 2$. So any prime factor of \[\frac{3\cdot 7^{q-1} + 1}{4}\]is $1\pmod{14}$, which implies $3\cdot 7^{q-1} + 1\equiv 4\pmod{14}$, absurd. $\square$

If $p=3$, then \[3^q + 1 \mid 11^3 + 17^3  =6244\]One can manually check that this is not the case since $3^q < 6244\implies q\le 7$.

From now on, assume $p\not\in \{2,3,7\}$.

Case 1: $q=2$
Then we have \[3p+1 \mid 11^p + 17^p\]Note that no prime that if $1\pmod{2p}$ divides $3p+1$, so the only prime factors of $3p+1$ are $2$ and $7$. However \[1\le \nu_2(3p+1) \le \nu_p(11^p + 17^p) = 2\]and \[\nu_7(3p+1)\le \nu_7(11^p + 17^p) = 1\]by LTE. So \[3p+1\in \{2,4,14,28\},\]all of which don't work.

Case 2: $q>2$
Then $p^{q-1}\equiv 1\pmod 4$, so $4\mid 3\cdot p^{q-1} + 1$. Thus by Claim 15.1, \[3\cdot p^{q-1} + 1\equiv \{4,28\}\pmod{2p}\]However, \[3\cdot p^{q-1} + 1\equiv p+1\pmod{2p},\]so $p=3$, contradiction.
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I claim the answer is $(p, q) = \boxed{(3, 3)}.$ It is easy to check $p = 2,3,$ so we will assume that $p\geq5.$

First, I claim that if a prime $r$ satisfies $r\mid11^p + 17^p,$ then either $r = 2, 7,$ or $r\equiv1\pmod p.$

By taking modulo $r,$ we have that $\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)^{2p}\equiv1\pmod r\implies\operatorname{ord}_{r}\left(\frac{11}{17}\right)\mid(2p, r - 1)\mid2p.$ If the order is $2,$ we have that $11 + 17 \equiv 0\pmod r \implies r=2, 7.$ If the order is $2p,$ this works, and $r \equiv1\pmod p.$

Note that we can write $3p^{q - 1} + 1 = 4^k7^mt,$ where $t$ is a product of primes that are $1\pmod p.$ We can easily see that $k\leq1$ by taking modulo 8.

If $p\neq7, q\neq2,$ we have that $1 \equiv 4\cdot 7^m \pmod p$. We also know that $m \leq 1$ by taking $\nu_7(11^p + 17^p) = 1 + \nu_7(p) = 1.$ Thus, $p = 3.$

If $p = 7,$ then $3\cdot7^{q - 1} + 1 = 4t.$ By taking modulo $7$, there is a contradiction.

If $q = 2,$ then $3p+1=2^{1\text{ or }2}7^{0\text{ or }1}t.$ By taking modulo $p,$ we have that $p = 13$ is possible. However, this is impossible.
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