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If $\alpha$, $\beta$, and $\gamma$ are the roots of $x^3 - x - 1 = 0$, compute $\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}$.
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If $\alpha$, $\beta$, and $\gamma$ are the roots of $x^3 - x - 1 = 0$, compute $\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}$.
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If $\alpha$, $\beta$, and $\gamma$ are the roots of $x^3 - x - 1 = 0$,
compute $\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}$.

(Canada National Olympiad 1996)


Solution:

If $\alpha ,\beta$ and $\gamma$ are the roots of $x^3 - x - 1 = 0$,
then $\frac{{1 + \alpha }}{{1 - \alpha }},\frac{{1 + \beta }}{{1 - \beta }}$ and $\frac{{1 + \gamma }}{{1 - \gamma }}$ are the roots of
$\left( {\frac{{u - 1}} {{u + 1}}} \right)^3 - \left( {\frac{{u - 1}} {{u + 1}}} \right) - 1 = 0 \Leftrightarrow$

$\Leftrightarrow u^3 + 7u^2 - u + 1 = 0$


Then we have:
$\frac{{1 + \alpha }} {{1 - \alpha }} + \frac{{1 + \beta }} {{1 - \beta }} + \frac{{1 + \gamma }} {{1 - \gamma }} = - 7$
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Clever, Metru!
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metru wrote:
[If $\alpha ,\beta$ and $\gamma$ are the roots of $x^3 - x - 1 = 0$,
then $\frac{{1 + \alpha }}{{1 - \alpha }},\frac{{1 + \beta }}{{1 - \beta }}$ and $\frac{{1 + \gamma }}{{1 - \gamma }}$ are the roots of
$\left( {\frac{{u - 1}} {{u + 1}}} \right)^3 - \left( {\frac{{u - 1}} {{u + 1}}} \right) - 1 = 0$

Why? :huh:
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If $u = \frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}$, then $u-u\alpha=1+\alpha\Longleftrightarrow \alpha\cdot (1+u)=u-1$, so $\alpha = \frac{u-1}{u+1}$. Since $\alpha^3-\alpha-1=0$, we must have \[ \left(\frac{u-1}{u+1}\right)^3-\left(\frac{u-1}{u+1}\right)-1=0. \]
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here is my friend's solution .

Letting $S=\sum\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}$ , then $S+3=\sum\frac{2}{1-\alpha}=2\frac{\sum (1-\beta)(1-\gamma)}{(1-\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)}$

Since $f(x)=x^3-x-1=(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)(x-\gamma)$ , $f(1)=(1-\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)=-1$

So the denominator of $S+3$ is $-1$ while the numerator (after expanding and using vieta) we find that it is $4$ .So $S+3=-4$ $\implies S=-7$

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shyong wrote:
here is my friend's solution .

Letting $S=\sum\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}$ , then $S+3=\sum\frac{2}{1-\alpha}=2\frac{\sum (1-\beta)(1-\gamma)}{(1-\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)}$

Since $f(x)=x^{3}-x-1=(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)(x-\gamma)$ , $f(1)=(1-\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)=-1$

So the denominator of $S+3$ is $-1$ while the numerator (after expanding and using vieta) we find that it is $4$ .So $S+3=-4$ $\implies S=-7$

:)

Can some body please explain how
$f(x)=x^{3}-x-1=(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)(x-\gamma)$

Just because \alpha , \beta , \gamma are roots of f(x) doesn't mean above is true.
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Can some body please explain how
$f(x)=x^{3}-x-1=(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)(x-\gamma)$

Just because \alpha , \beta , \gamma are roots of f(x) doesn't mean above is true.

This is just euclidean division on polynomials , $P(\alpha) = 0 $ means $x-\alpha$ divides $P(x)$ i.e , there exists a polynomial $Q$ (of degree $2$ ) such that $P(x) = (x-\alpha) Q(x) $ for all $X$ (This is because the ring of polynomials is euclidean just like $\mathbb{Z}$ Do the same thing , since $\beta $ is another root of $P$ We have necessarily $Q(\beta)=0$ (since $\beta \ne \alpha $ ) and so on .
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Note that $\sum\limits_{sym}^{} \frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} = \sum\limits_{sym}^{}\frac{1-\alpha + 2\alpha}{1-\alpha} = \sum\limits_{sym}^{}1+\frac{2\alpha}{1-\alpha} = 3+ 2\sum\limits_{sym}^{}\frac{\alpha}{1-\alpha}$.

We can rewrite the equation $x^3-x-1=0$ as $x=x^3-1$. Hence, $3+2\sum\limits_{sym}^{}\frac{\alpha}{1-\alpha} = 3+2\sum\limits_{sym}^{}\frac{\alpha^3-1}{1-\alpha} = 3-2\sum\limits_{sym}^{} \frac{\alpha^3-1}{\alpha-1}$

Since $1$ is not a root of the equation, we can divide and get

$3-2\sum\limits_{sym}^{} \alpha^2+\alpha+1 = 3-2(s^2-2(\alpha\beta + \beta\gamma + \gamma\alpha) + s + 3) = 3-2(0^2-2(-1) + 0 +3) = -7$

@below thanks!
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NewBeginning wrote:
$3-2\sum\limits_{sym}^{} \alpha^2+\alpha+1 = 3-2(s^2-2(\alpha\beta + \beta\gamma + \gamma\alpha) + s + 1)$

$\sum_{sym}(\alpha^2+\alpha+1)=s^2-2(\alpha\beta+\beta\gamma+\gamma\alpha)+s+3$
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Isn't this simply vieta? :D
$Solution:$
Firstly let $P(x) = x^3 - x- 1$ . Then $\alpha,\beta,\gamma$ are the roots of $P(x)$. For brevity, let $\alpha =a ,
\beta =b, \gamma=c$.(Lazinesss :P )
Then by vieta's theorem, we have that:
$\longrightarrow \sum_{cyc} a = 0$

$\longrightarrow \sum_{cyc} ab = -1$

$\longrightarrow  abc = 1$.

Expanding the given equation we have:

$\dfrac{\sum_{cyc}(1+a)(1-b)(1-c)}{(1-a)(1-b)(1-c)}$

$\iff  \dfrac{7}{-1}$

Hence the answer is $-7$
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Let $P$ be the polynomial $x^3-x-1$. Then $$\sum_{\mathrm{cyc}} \frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} = \frac{\sum_{\mathrm{cyc}} (1+\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)}{(1-\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)} = \frac{3+3\alpha\beta\gamma - \sum \alpha - \sum \alpha \beta}{P(1)} = \boxed{-7}.$$
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1+a÷1-a=t
=> 1÷a=t+1÷t-1=>a=t-1÷t+1
Putting the value of 'a' in given Equation, we get The sum of roots as -7
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\begin{align*}
\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}+\frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta}+\frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}
&=\frac{(1+\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)+(1-\alpha)(1+\beta)(1-\gamma)+(1-\alpha)(1-\beta)(1+\gamma)}{(1-\alpha)(1-\beta)(1-\gamma)}\\
&=\frac{3-(\alpha+\beta+\gamma)-(\alpha\beta+\alpha\gamma+\beta\gamma)+3\alpha\beta\gamma}{1-(\alpha+\beta+\gamma)+(\alpha\beta+\alpha\gamma+\beta\gamma)-\alpha\beta\gamma}\\
&=\frac{3-0+1+3\cdot 1}{1-0-1-1}\\
&=-7\\
\end{align*}
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Let $1-\alpha=a$, $1-\beta=b$, and $1-\gamma=c$. Then $a$, $b$, and $c$ are the roots of $(1-x)^3-(1-x)-1=-x^3+3x^2-2x-1$. Therefore, $\frac{2-a}{a}+\frac{2-b}{b}+\frac{2-c}{c}=2(\frac1a+\frac1b+\frac1c)-3=2(\frac{2}{-1})-3=-7$.
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@cinnamon_e,
very nice job! I'm highly impressed. Oh...if you don't mind accepting my friend request....
Later
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shobber wrote:
If $\alpha$, $\beta$, and $\gamma$ are the roots of $x^3 - x - 1 = 0$, compute $S=\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}$.

Let $P(x)=x^3-x-1$, then $\frac{P’(x)}{P(x)}=\sum\frac1{x-\alpha}$, therefore
$$S=-3+ 2\frac{P’(1)}{P(1)} =-7$$
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By Vietas Relation, we get $$\alpha+\beta+\gamma=0$$$$\alpha\beta+\beta\gamma+\gamma\alpha=-1$$$$\alpha\beta\gamma=1$$We need to find the value of $\sum_{cyc}{}\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}.$ Now we have to find an equation whose roots are $\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha},$ $\frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta},$ $\frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}$
Now, $\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}=t\implies\alpha=\frac{t-1}{t+1}$ Putting the value of $\alpha$ in given $eq^n$ we get $$\left(\frac{t-1}{t+1}\right)^3-\left(\frac{t-1}{t+1}\right)-1=0.$$After simplify we get our reqd. equation as $$t^3+7t^2-t+1=0.$$therefore $$\sum_{cyc}{}\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}=-7$$Is the correct answer....
VIETAS RELATION :love:
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I think solutions like #2 and #16 are actually slightly incomplete. It should be mentioned that the roots are distinct in order for the proof to actually work. Otherwise there is no guarantee that the multiplicities of the roots are preserved.
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Taken from my notebook:
Clearly,
\[
\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}+\frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta}+\frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}=3+2\left(\frac{\alpha}{1-\alpha}+\frac{\beta}{1-\beta}+\frac{\gamma}{1-\gamma}\right).
\]We also know that
\begin{align*}
	\alpha & =\alpha^3-1, \\ 
	\beta & =\beta^3-1, \\
	\gamma & =\gamma^3-1.
\end{align*}After substituting, our desired result becomes,
\begin{align*}
	3+2\left(\frac{\alpha}{1-\alpha}+\frac{\beta}{1-\beta}+\frac{\gamma}{1-\gamma}\right) = & 3+2(-\alpha^2-\alpha-1-\beta^2-\beta-1-\gamma^2-\gamma-1).
\end{align*}By Vieta's, we have
\begin{align*}
	\alpha^2+\beta^2+\gamma^2 & = 2, \\
	\alpha+\beta+\gamma & =0.
\end{align*}Hence, our desired result becomes
\[3+2(-\alpha^2-\alpha-1-\beta^2-\beta-1-\gamma^2-\gamma-1)=3+2(-5)=\boxed{-7}\]
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Filipjack wrote:
I think solutions like #2 and #16 are actually slightly incomplete. It should be mentioned that the roots are distinct in order for the proof to actually work. Otherwise there is no guarantee that the multiplicities of the roots are preserved.

Anyway, that's easy. Right now I can think of two ways of proving it.

Elementary:
If $f(x)=x^3-x-1$ had a multiple root then it would be a root of $f'(x)=3x^2-1$, but the roots of $3x^2-1$ are not roots of $x^3-x-1$. Hence $\alpha \neq \beta \neq \gamma \neq \alpha$.

Advanced:
By the Rational Root Theorem we have that the only possible rational roots of $f(x)=x^3-x-1$ are $\pm 1$, but $f(1)=f(-1)=-1$, so $f$ does not have rational roots and therefore it is irreducible in $\mathbb{Q}[x]$. From $\operatorname{char}\mathbb{Q}=0$ we get that $f$ is separable over $\mathbb{Q}$. Hence $\alpha \neq \beta \neq \gamma \neq \alpha$.
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Ianis wrote:
Filipjack wrote:
I think solutions like #2 and #16 are actually slightly incomplete. It should be mentioned that the roots are distinct in order for the proof to actually work. Otherwise there is no guarantee that the multiplicities of the roots are preserved.

Anyway, that's easy. Right now I can think of two ways of proving it.

Elementary:
If $f(x)=x^3-x-1$ had a multiple root then it would be a root of $f'(x)=3x^2-1$, but the roots of $3x^2-1$ are not roots of $x^3-x-1$. Hence $\alpha \neq \beta \neq \gamma \neq \alpha$.

Advanced:
By the Rational Root Theorem we have that the only possible rational roots of $f(x)=x^3-x-1$ are $\pm 1$, but $f(1)=f(-1)=-1$, so $f$ does not have rational roots and therefore it is irreducible in $\mathbb{Q}[x]$. From $\operatorname{char}\mathbb{Q}=0$ we get that $f$ is separable over $\mathbb{Q}$. Hence $\alpha \neq \beta \neq \gamma \neq \alpha$.

Well, yeah, it's easy, but I didn't make that remark because that step was hard, but rather to emphasize this common (and subtle) error: If $r_1, \ldots, r_n$ are the roots of some polynomial $p$ and I prove that
$r_i$ is a root of $p$ $\implies$ $\varphi(r_i)$ is a root of $q,$ for $i=\overline{1,n},$

this won't actually prove that the multiplicity is preserved. If $r_1$ is a double root, for instance, the above implications merely say twice that $\varphi(r_1)$ is a root of $q,$ but they don't actually say that $\varphi(r_i)$ is a double root of $q.$

Anyway, we don't really need the roots to be distinct. That was just a quick fix. Using the factorization of $p,$ we can easily see that $p\left(\tfrac{X-b}{a}\right)$ has the roots $ar_1+b,\ldots,ar_n+b$ (with multiplicities preserved) and $X^np \left(\tfrac{1}{X} \right)$ has the roots $\tfrac{1}{r_1},\ldots\tfrac{1}{r_n}$ (again, with multiplicities preserved; here we assume that the roots are non-zero), so we get the result if we use the right compositions.
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By Vieta's formula, we get $\left\{ \begin{array}{l}
\alpha  + \beta  + \gamma  = 0\\
\alpha \beta  + \beta \gamma  + \gamma \alpha  =  - 1\\
\alpha \beta \gamma  = 1
\end{array} \right. ,$ then we have$$\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}=\frac{{3 - (\alpha  + \beta  + \gamma ) - (\alpha \beta  + \beta \gamma  + \gamma \alpha ) + 3\alpha \beta \gamma }}{{1 - (\alpha  + \beta  + \gamma ) + (\alpha \beta  + \beta \gamma  + \gamma \alpha ) - \alpha \beta \gamma }}=-7.$$
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By Vieta's formula
\begin{align*}
\alpha\beta\gamma = 1 \\
\alpha\beta + \beta\gamma + \alpha\gamma = -1 \\
\alpha + \beta + \gamma = 0
\end{align*}
and expressing $\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma}$ with a common denominator we get

$$ \frac{3+3\alpha\beta\gamma-\alpha\gamma-\beta\gamma-\alpha\beta-\alpha-\gamma-\beta}{1-\alpha-\beta-\gamma+\alpha\beta+\alpha\gamma+\gamma\beta-\alpha\beta\gamma} = \frac{3+3+1}{-1} = \boxed{-7} $$
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We have

\begin{align*} 
&\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma} \\
= \ &\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + 1 + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + 1 + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma} + 1 - 3 \\
= \ & -2\left(\frac{1}{\alpha-1} + \frac{1}{\beta-1} + \frac{1}{\gamma-1} \right)-3
\end{align*}
The polynomial with roots $\alpha-1$, $\beta-1$, and $\gamma-1$ is $(x+1)^3-(x+1)-1=x^3 + 3 x^2 + 2 x - 1$. Then, the polynomial with roots $\frac{1}{\alpha-1}$, $\frac{1}{\beta-1}$, $\frac{1}{\gamma-1}$ is $-x^3+2x^2+3x+1$, so our answer is

\[-2\left(\frac{1}{\alpha-1} + \frac{1}{\beta-1} + \frac{1}{\gamma-1} \right)-3 = -2(2)-3 = \boxed{-7}.\]
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By Vieta's formula, we know that $u=a+b+c=0$,$v=ab+bc+ca=-1$ and $w=abc=1$.
And since the desired sum can be rewrited as
$\dfrac{3+3w-v-u}{1+v-u-w}$ we find that $S=-7$
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If $\alpha, \beta$ & $\gamma$ are the zeroes of $$f(x) =ax^3+bx^2+cx+d,$$then $\frac{k+\alpha}{k-\alpha}, \frac{k+\beta}{k-\beta}$ and $\frac{k+\gamma}{k-\gamma}$ are the zeroes of $$g(x) = (ak^3+bk^2+ck+d)x^3-(3ak^3+bk^2-ck-3d)x^2+(3ak^3-bk^2-ck+3d)x-(ak^3-bk^2+ck-d).$$$$\boxed{\therefore \frac{k+\alpha}{k-\alpha}+\frac{k+\beta}{k-\beta}+\frac{k+\gamma}{k-\gamma}=\frac{3ak^3+bk^2-ck-3d}{ak^3+bk^2+ck+d}}$$
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Let $r$ be a root of $f(x)=x^3-x-1$. Through addition, we have that
\[\frac{1+r}{1-r}=-1+\frac{2}{1-r},\]however, since $r$ is a root of $f(x)$, we have that
\[r^3-r-1=0 \iff r^3-r=1 \iff -r^2-r=\frac{1}{1-r} \iff -2r^2-2r=\frac{2}{1-r},\]meaning that
\[\frac{1+r}{1-r}=-1-2r-2r^2,\]which gives that
\[\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma} = -3-2(\alpha+\beta+\gamma)-2(\alpha^2+\beta^2+\gamma^2).\]By Vieta's formulas, we have that $\alpha+\beta+\gamma=0$ and $\alpha^2+\beta^2+\gamma^2=0^2-2(-1)=2$, giving us an answer of $-3-2(0)-2(2),$ or $-7$.
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Let a,b,c be the roots, so we have that a+b+c=0, abc=1 and ab+bc+ac=-1
Let H be our expression so H=7/(1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
It is easy to check that (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)=-1 and finally we get H=-1
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We want to find A = $\frac{1 + \alpha}{1 - \alpha} + \frac{1 + \beta}{1 - \beta} + \frac{1 + \gamma}{1 - \gamma} = \frac{(1 + \alpha)(1 - \beta)(1 - \gamma) + (1 + \beta)(1 - \alpha)(1 - \gamma) + (1 + \gamma)(1 - \alpha)(1 - \beta)}{(1 - \alpha)(1 - \beta)(1 - \gamma)} = \frac{3 + 3\alpha\beta\gamma - (\alpha + \beta + \gamma) - (\alpha\beta + \alpha\gamma + \beta\gamma)}{1 - (\alpha + \beta + \gamma) + (\alpha\beta + \alpha\gamma + \beta\gamma) - \alpha\beta\gamma}$. Now from Vieta's we get that $\alpha + \beta + \gamma = 0$, $\alpha\beta + \alpha\gamma + \beta\gamma = -1$, $\alpha\beta\gamma = 1$. Now we plug in these sums in the equation for A we got $\Rightarrow$ $A = \frac{3 + 3.1 - 0 - (-1)}{1 - 0 + (-1) - 1} = \frac{7}{-1} = -7$ $\Rightarrow$ the answer is -7.
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We can construct a new polynomial with roots:

\[
\frac{1 + \alpha}{1 - \alpha}, \quad \frac{1 + \beta}{1 - \beta}
\]
The manipulation involves the transformation:

\[
\left( \frac{u - 1}{u + 1} \right)^3 - \left( \frac{u - 1}{u + 1} \right) - 1 = 0
\]
This expression simplifies to the polynomial:

\[
u^3 + 7u^2 - u + 1 = 0
\]
Using Vieta's formulas, we can find the sum of the roots of this new polynomial, which is:

\[
\boxed{-7}
\]
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Let $x$ be the desired expression. Note that $$x+3=2\bigg(\frac{1}{1-a}+\frac{1}{1-b}+\frac{1}{1-c}\bigg).$$We can create a common denominator for $$\frac{1}{1-a}+\frac{1}{1-b}+\frac{1}{1-c}$$to find that it is $-2$. The answer is $\boxed{-7}$.
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Let $P(x) = x^3 - x - 1.$ First, we have that $P(1) = (1 - \alpha)(1 - \beta)(1 - \gamma) = -1.$ We also have that from Vietas, $\alpha + \beta + \gamma = 0, \alpha\beta + \alpha\gamma + \beta\gamma = -1.$ Thus,
\begin{align*}
    \frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha} + \frac{1+\beta}{1-\beta} + \frac{1+\gamma}{1-\gamma} & = -3 + \frac{2}{1-\alpha} + \frac{2}{1-\beta} + \frac{2}{1-\gamma} \\
    & = -3 + 2 \left(\frac{3 - 2\alpha - 2\beta - 2\gamma + \alpha\beta + \alpha\gamma + \beta\gamma}{(1 - \alpha)(1 - \beta)(1 - \gamma)}\right) \\
    & = -3 + 2 \left(\frac{3 - 1}{-1}\right) = \boxed{-7}
\end{align*}
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We let the polynomial $Q(x) = (1-x)^3-(1-x)-1$, which has roots $1-\alpha$, $1-\beta$, $1-\gamma$. Expanding, we have that \[Q(x) = -x^3+3x^2-2x-1.\]Now, let the roots of $Q(x)$ be $r$, $s$, and $t$ such that
\begin{align*}
r &= 1-\alpha \\
s &= 1-\beta \\
t &= 1-\gamma. \\
\end{align*}Then, we are solving for \[\dfrac{2-r}{r}+\dfrac{2-s}{s}+\dfrac{2-t}{t} = \dfrac{2(rs+rt+st)}{rst}-3\]which clearly by Vieta's is equal to $\boxed{-7}$.
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