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Let \( P(x) = x^{2024} + a_{2023}x^{2023} + \cdots + a_1x + a_0 \) be a polynomial with real coefficients.

(a) Suppose that \( 2023a_{2023}^2 - 4048a_{2022} < 0 \). Prove that the polynomial \( P(x) \) cannot have 2024 real roots.

(b) Suppose that \( a_0 = 1 \) and \( 2023(a_1^2 + a_2^2 + \cdots + a_{2023}^2) \leq 4 \). Prove that \( P(x) \geq 0 \) for all real numbers \( x \).
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Pairs of integers that satisfy divisibility
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Find all pairs $(m,n)$ of positive integers such that $n^2-2n\mid m^2+2m$ and $n^2-m\mid m^2+n$.
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inequality
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Let $ x,y \geq 0 ,$ such that : $ \frac{x^2}{x^3+y}+\frac{y^2}{x+y^3} \geq 1 .$
Prove that : $$ x^2+y^2-xy \leq x+y $$$$ (x+\frac{1}{2})^2+(x+\frac{1}{2})^2 \leq \frac{5}{2} $$$$ (x+1)^2+(y+1)^2 \leq 5 $$$$ (x+2)^2+(y+2)^2 \leq 13 $$
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Ten million fireflies are glowing in $\mathbb{R}^3$ at midnight. Some of the fireflies are friends, and friendship is always mutual. Every second, one firefly moves to a new position so that its distance from each one of its friends is the same as it was before moving. This is the only way that the fireflies ever change their positions. No two fireflies may ever occupy the same point.

Initially, no two fireflies, friends or not, are more than a meter away. Following some finite number of seconds, all fireflies find themselves at least ten million meters away from their original positions. Given this information, find the greatest possible number of friendships between the fireflies.

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Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.
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Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.
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The only functions which work are the identity and the zero-function. It is clear that both satisfy the equation. Now we show any valid function that is not zero is the identity. Suppose $f(x_0) \ne 0$ for some $x_0 \in \mathbb{R}$.

If $f(0) \ne 0$ then $f(0)f(yf(0)-1)=-f(0)$ but $f \equiv -1$ is not a solution. So $f(0)=0$.

Put $x=x_0, y=0$ so $f(-1)=-1$. Put $y=x$ so $f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1$ for all $x$; hence $f$ is surjective over $(-1, \infty)$. Suppose $f(a)=0$ then $x=a, y=x_0$ implies $a=0$. So $f$ is injective at $0$.

Now $f(f(1)-1)=0$ so $f(1)=1$. Put $x=1$ to get $f(y-1)=f(y)-1$ for all $y$ so $f(y-N)=f(y)-N$ for all integers $N \ge 0$. Now $f(y)=f(y+N)-N$ so $f(y+N)=f(y)+N$ for all integers $N \ge 0$. Consequently, $f$ is surjective over all of $\mathbb{R}$.

Plug $f(yf(x)-1)=f(yf(x))-1$ to conclude $f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$. Put $y=1$ so $x^2=f(x)f(f(x))$ hence $f(yf(x))=f(y)f(f(x))$ for all $x \ne 0$. For $x=0$, last claim is obvious. Now surjectivity shows $f(ty)=f(t)f(y)$ for all $t,y \in \mathbb{R}$ so $f$ is multiplicative.

Thus, $f(z^2)=f(z)^2 \ge 0$ and $f(-z^2)=f(-1)f(z)^2=-f(z)^2 \le 0$ hence $f$ preserves the sign of the argument. Now pick $x>1$ and so $1 \ge x-\lfloor x \rfloor \ge 0$ hence $f(x-\lfloor x \rfloor) \ge 0$ and $f(x-\lfloor x \rfloor-1) \le 0$ hence $$\lfloor x \rfloor \le f(x) \le \lfloor x \rfloor+1$$so $$x-1 \le f(x) \le x+1$$for all $x>1$. Now suppose $f(t_0) \ne t_0$ for some $t_0>1$.

1. If $f(t_0)>t_0$.

Now for $y>1$ sufficiently large, $$yf(t_0)^2-2f(t_0) \le f(t_0)f(yf(t_0)-1)=t_0^2f(y)-f(t_0) \le yt_0^2+t_0^2-f(t_0)$$hence $$y \le \frac{t_0^2+f(t_0)}{f(t_0)^2-t_0^2}$$which fails as $y \rightarrow \infty$.

2. If $f(t_0)<t_0$.

Again for $y>1$ sufficiently large, $$yf(t_0)^2 \ge f(t_0)f(yf(t_0)-1)=t_0^2f(y)-f(t_0) \ge yt_0^2-t_0^2-f(t_0)$$hence $$y \le \frac{t_0^2+f(t_0)}{-f(t_0)^2+t_0^2}$$which fails as $y \rightarrow \infty$.

Finally, shifting down by large integers $N$, we obtain $f(x)=x$ for all $x \in \mathbb{R}$ as desired. $\blacksquare$
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Easy for P3 (if problems order in difficult)and simple solution.
Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion of $f(x)f(yf(x)-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x)$
$P(0,0)\to f(0)\cdot f(-1)=-f(0),$ then $1) f(0)=0,$ or $f(-1)=-1.$
$1)$ $P(x,0)\to f(x)\cdot f(-1)=-f(x).$
$1.1)$ For all $x,$ $f(x)\equiv 0,$ Indeed this solution work.
$1.2)$ $\exists a\in\mathbb{R} ,$ such that $f(a)\not= 0,$ them from $P(a,0)\to f(-1)=-1.$
$2)$ $P(-1,0)\to f(0)=0.$
Then from both condition we can get $f(0)=0,f(-1)=-1.$
Lemma: $f(a)\equiv 0 \iff a\equiv 0.$
Proof: we know $f(0)=0,$ let show $f(a)=0\to a=0.$
$P(a,-1)\to -a^2=0\to a=0.$ As desired.
From $P(1,1)\to f(1)\cdot f(f(1)-1)=0.$
$2.1)$ $f(1)=0.$
From $P(1,x)\to $ for all $x,$ $ f(x)=0,$ but $f(-1)=-1.$ contradiction.
$2.2)$ $f(1)\not= 0\to f(f(1)-1)=0.$ From lemma we get $f(1)=1.$
Then $P(1,x+1)\to f(x+1)=f(x)+1,$ (or $f(x-1)=f(x)-1.$)
Then our equation equivalent to $Q(x,y):f(x)\cdot f(yf(x))=x^2f(y).$
From $Q(x,1)\to f(x)\cdot f(f(x))=x^2.$
Also from $Q(x+1,1)\to (f(x)+1)\cdot f(f(f(x))+1)=f(x)\cdot f(f(x))+f(x)+f(f(x))+1=x^2+2x+1,$ then we get $f(f(x))=2x-f(x).$
From $f(x)\cdot f(f(x))=2x,$ use $f(f(x))=2x-f(x),$ we get $(x-f(x))^2=0.$
Then $f(x)\equiv x,$ for all $x.$ Indeed this solution work.
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Nice problem. Here's my solution: Let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion. Note that the only constant function which satisfies the given equation is the zero function. So from now on we assume that $f$ is non-constant.

CLAIM For $c \in \mathbb{R}$, we have $f(c)=0 \Leftrightarrow c=0$.

Proof: Note that we have $$P(-1,0) \Rightarrow f(-1)^2=f(0)-f(-1) \Rightarrow f(-1)(f(-1)+1)=f(0)$$Also, $$P(0,0) \Rightarrow f(0)f(-1)=-f(0) \Rightarrow f(0)=0 \text{ OR } f(-1)=-1$$If $f(0)=0$, then using the first relation, we get that either $f(-1)=0$ or $f(-1)=-1$. But, when $f(-1)=0$, we have $P(x,0) \Rightarrow f(x)=0$, which contradicts the fact that $f$ is non-constant. That means $f(0)=0$ implies $f(-1)=-1$. And, when $f(-1)=-1$, then (again from the first relation), we get $f(0)=0$. Summarizing the above, we can say that $f(0)=0$ and $f(-1)=-1$ are both true simultaneously.

Now, suppose that $f(c)=0$. Then $P(c,-1) \Rightarrow c^2f(-1)=0 \Rightarrow c=0$. $\Box$

Return to the problem at hand. Then we get $P(x,-1) \Rightarrow f(x) \cdot f(-f(x)-1)=-x^2-f(x)$

$$P(-1,f(x)) \Rightarrow -f(-f(x)-1)=f(f(x))+1 \Rightarrow f(x) \cdot f(-f(x)-1)=-f(x) \cdot (f(f(x))+1)$$$$\Rightarrow x^2+f(x)=f(x) \cdot (f(f(x))+1) \Rightarrow f(f(x)) \cdot f(x)=x^2 \text{ } (*)$$
Now, $P(1,1) \Rightarrow f(1) \cdot f(f(1)-1)=0$. Using our Claim, we get that $f(1)-1=0 \Rightarrow f(1)=1$ $($as $f(1) \neq 0)$. Then $$P(1,y) \Rightarrow f(y-1)=f(y)-1 \Rightarrow \text{ By an easy induction, }f(y+n)=f(y)+n \text{ } \forall n \in \mathbb{N}$$
Finally, Putting $x \Longrightarrow x+n$ in $(*)$, and using the above relation, we get that $$(f(f(x))+n)(f(x)+n)=x^2+2nx+n^2=f(f(x)) \cdot f(x)+2nx+n^2$$$$\Rightarrow n(f(f(x))+f(x))=2nx \Rightarrow f(f(x))+f(x)=2x \text{ } (**)$$
Using $(*)$ and $(**)$, we can easily find that $f(f(x))=f(x)=x$. Thus, our final answers are $$\boxed{f \equiv 0 \text{ AND } f(x)=x \text{ } \forall x \in \mathbb{R}}$$Now one can easily verify that these solutions actually work. Hence, done. $\blacksquare$
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I think this solution is more elementary than the others, although many parts are similar to the given above.
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Sorry for double posting, but I have a different ending after proving the claim in post #4. Here's my solution: As proved in post #4, we have $f(0)=0,f(-1)=-1$ and that $f$ is non-constant. Now, $$P(-1,y) \Rightarrow -f(-y-1)=f(y)+1 \overset{y \rightarrow -y}{\Longrightarrow} f(y-1)=-f(-y)-1$$Again, as shown in post #4, one easily gets that $f(y-1)=f(y)-1$. Thus, we have $f(-y)=-f(y)$, i.e. $f$ is odd. We will show that $f$ is injective also. Suppose we have $f(a)=f(b)$ for some $a,b \in \mathbb{R}$. Then $$P(a,-1)-P(b,-1) \Rightarrow a^2=b^2 \Rightarrow b=a \text{ OR } b=-a$$However, we cannot have $f(-a)=f(a)$, as $f$ is odd. Hence, $f$ must be injective.

Now, as $f(y-1)=f(y)-1$, so we can rewrite the problem condition as $$P(x,y):= f(x)(f(yf(x))-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x) \Rightarrow f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$$Then, $P(x,x)$ gives that $f(xf(x))=x^2$. This means that $f$ is surjective for $x>0$. But, as $f(-x)=-f(x)$, so we get that $f$ is in fact always surjective. Now, using injectivity, one can easily prove that $f(1)=1$, and so we have $$P(x,1) \Rightarrow x^2=f(x)f(f(x)) \Longrightarrow f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)=f(x)f(f(x))f(y) \Rightarrow f(yf(x))=f(f(x))f(y)$$However, as $f$ is surjective, so we can take $f(x)=z$, giving that $f$ is multiplicative also. Let $w=\frac{1}{f(x)}$ (As $f$ is surjective, so $\frac{1}{f}$ is also surjective). Then, using multiplicity, we have $$P \left(y+\frac{1}{f(x)},x \right) \Rightarrow x^2f(y+w)=f(x)f(yf(x)+1)=f(x)(f(yf(x))+1)= x^2f(y)+f(x)$$$$\Rightarrow \text{ As } x^2=f(x)f(f(x)) \text{, we get that } f(f(x))(f(y+w)-f(y))=1$$But, $f(x)=\frac{1}{w}$, and so we get $$f(y+w)-f(y)=\frac{1}{f \left(\frac{1}{w} \right)}=f(w) \Rightarrow f(y+w)=f(y)+f(w)$$where we use that $f \left(\frac{1}{w} \right) f(w)=f(1)=1$. This means that $f$ is both additive and multiplicative, in which case it is well known that $f$ must be the identity function. Hence, done. $\blacksquare$
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Nice problem. Here is my solution:
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Edit: Just realised that my solution is similar to @2above.
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Good problem. Nice solutions. Learned much.
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Nice problem :)
Solution
$f (x)\equiv 0$ if $f (x)\neq 0$ for some $x $.

If $f (x)=f (y) $ then $x=y $ or $x=-y $
$P (0,y)\implies f (0)=0$ or $f (yf (0)-1)=-1\implies f (0)=0$
$P (x,0)\implies f (x)f (-1)=-f (x)\implies f (-1)=-1$
$P (-1,y)\implies -f(-y-1)=f (y)+1$

$\text {Restate the original equation as} $

$f (x)f (-yf (x))=x^2f (y)\implies f (x)f (f (x))=x^2$
$P (x,x): f (-xf (x))=x^2=-f (xf (-x))f (x)+f (-x)=0$
$f (y+1)=f (y)+1 f (x+1)+f (f (x+1))=(x+1)^2$
$f (x)+f (f (x))=2x $, and $f (x)=x $
Hence, $f(x)=0$ $\forall x\in\mathbb R $ and $f(x)=x $. Easy to verify.
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anantmudgal09 wrote:
Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.

Answers: $f\equiv 0 $ and $f \equiv x \ \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$.
Clearly both these functions satisfy, so we continue by proving them to be the only ones. Denote by $(x,y)$ the assertion $f(x)\cdot f(yf(x)-1) = x^2f(y)-f(x)$.
$(x,x) \implies f(x)f(xf(x)-1) = f(x)(x^2-1) ... (1)$. Now, $(0,y) \implies f \equiv 0$(which is a solution) or $f(0)=0$. Assuming $f$ to be non-constant,
take $f(0)=0$. Now suppose there exists $x_0 \neq 0 \in \mathbb{R}$ such that $f(x_0) =0$. Then, $(x_0,y) \implies x_0^2 \cdot f(y) = 0 \iff x_0 = 0$, contradiction and thus $f$ is injective at $0 \implies f(xf(x) -1) = x^2-1 \implies f$ is surjective over $[-1,\infty)$.
Now, $(x,1) \implies f(x) f(f(x)-1) = x^2 - f(x)$. We now show that $f$ is injective. Indeed, if $f(a) =f(b)$, then $a^2 = b^2$. So suppose $a+b=0$. Then we get that $$ f(af(x)-1) = f(-af(x)-1) \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$$. Using surjectivity, pick $\alpha$ such that $f(\alpha) = \frac{1}{a}$. Then we have $f(0)=f(2)$, contradiction $\implies f$ is injective. Now using similar arguments get that $f(x) = -f(-x)$ which implies $f$ is a bijection on $\mathbb{R}$. Then $(x,f(y)) \implies x^2 \cdot f(f(y)) \cdot f(y) = y^2 \cdot f(x) \cdot f(f(x))$ and using $f(1)=1$ (obtainable from $(1,1)$) we establish $f(x) f(f(x)) = x^2$ which in turn implies $f(x+1) = f(x) + 1 \forall x$ and moreover, $f(x) f(yf(x)) = x^2 f(y) = f(x)f(f(x)) f(y) \implies f$ is multiplicative $\implies f(y)f(x+1) = f(y)f(x) + f(y)f(1) \iff f(xy+y) = f(xy) + f(y) \implies f$ is Cauchy and multiplicative and thus $f$ is identity.
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Not that hard for P3
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$\clubsuit \color{magenta}{\textit{\textbf{ANS:}}}$ $f(x)=0 \quad \textrm{and} \quad f(x)=x \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}$.
$\blacklozenge \color{blue}{\textit{\textbf{Proof:}}}$ It's easy to see that these are indeed solutions to the given FE. Let $P(x,y)$ be the given assertion, we have \[P(x,0): f(x)(f(-1)+1)=x^2f(0)\]if $f(-1)\ne -1$, we will have $f(x)=cx^2$ for some real number $c$, plugging it into our FE, \[c^4x^6y^2+\ldots =c^2x^2(cx^2y-1)^2=cx^2y^2-cx^2\]which means $c=0$ and $f(x)=0$ for all real $x$. If $f(-1)=-1$, then $f(0)=0$. If there exists a real number $u$, such that $f(u)=0$, then \[P(u,x): u^2f(x)=0 \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}\]which if $f(x)\ne 0 $ for all real $x$, then $u=0$. So, $f$ is injective at $0$ and $f$ is not the zero function. Then, \[P(x,x): f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1 \quad \forall x\ne 0\]but since $f(0)=0$, $ f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1 \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}$. Now, by comparing $P(x, 1)$ and $P(1,f(x))$, we have \[\frac{x^2-f(x)}{f(x)}=f(f(x))-1 \implies f(x)f(f(x))=x^2 \quad \forall x\ne 0\]but again $f(0)=0$, so this also holds for all real $x$. Plugging this back to our original FE, we have \[P(x,y):f(yf(x)-1)=f(f(x))f(y)-1\]and \[P(1,x+1): f(x+1)=f(x)+1.\]Most importantly, $f$ is odd since \[P(-1,x): f(-x)-1=f(-x-1)=-f(x)-1 \implies f(-x)=-f(x) \quad \forall x\in \mathbb{R}.\]Therefore, since $f$ is odd and $f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1$, $f$ is surjective over $\mathbb{R}$. This means \[P(x,f(y)): f(f(x)f(y))=f(f(x))f((y)) \implies f(xy)=f(x)f(y)\]$f$ is multiplicative and in particular, $f(x^2)=f(x)^2$. Finally, as \[\begin{cases} f(x+1)=f(x)+1 \\ f(x^2)=f(x)^2, \end{cases}\]this implies $f(x)=x$ (it's a well-known FE). $\quad \blacksquare$
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anantmudgal09 wrote:
Find all functions $f: \mathbb{R} \mapsto \mathbb{R}$ such that $$f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x),$$for all $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$.
Easy, but nice.
Let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion. $f \equiv 0$ is obviously a solution. Henceforth, assume that $f \not \equiv 0$. Now $$P(1,1): f(1)f(f(1)-1)=0 \implies \exists c \quad \text{such that} f(c)=0$$$$P(c,y): c^2f(y)=0$$since $f \not \equiv 0$, we conclude that $f(t)=0 \iff t=0$. So $f(1)-1=0 \implies f(1)=1$. Observe that $$P(x,1): f(f(x)-1)= \frac{x^2}{f(x)}-1 \quad (i)$$and $$P(1,f(x)): f(f(x)-1)=f(f(x))-1 \quad (ii)$$On comparing $(i)$ and $(ii)$ we have that $f(x)f(f(x))=x^2 \forall x \in \mathbb{R} \quad (iii)$. Now note that for all $x\not = 1,-1$ $$P(x,x): f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1 \implies f(x^2-1)=f(f(xf(x)-1))=\frac{(xf(x)-1)^2}{f(xf(x)-1)}=\frac{(xf(x)-1)^2}{x^2-1} (iv)$$$$P(f(x),f(x)): f(f(x)f(f(x))-1)= f(x)^2-1 \overset{\text{using} (iii)}{\implies} f(x)^2-1=f(x^2-1)= \frac{(xf(x)-1)^2}{x^2-1}$$Upon simplification, the above result is equivalent to $(f(x)-x)^2=0 \implies f(x)=x$. Also $P(x,0): f(-1)=-1$. Hence we have two solutions, i.e.
$$f(x)=x \quad \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$$$$f(x)=0 \quad \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$$Hence, we are done.
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$\boxed{f(x)=0}$ works. Assume now that $\exists j:f(j)\ne0$.

$P(1,1)\Rightarrow f(1)f(f(1)-1)=0\Rightarrow\exists k:f(k)=0$
$P(k,j)\Rightarrow k^2f(j)=0\Rightarrow k=0$ (injectivity at $0$)

Either $f(1)=0$ or $f(f(1)-1)=0$. If $f(1)=0$ then $1=0$, absurd, thus $f(1)-1=0\Rightarrow f(1)=1$.

$P(1,x+1)\Rightarrow f(x+1)=f(x)+1$
The assertion becomes $Q(x,y):f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$.
$Q(x,1)\Rightarrow f(x)f(f(x))=x^2$
$Q(x+1,1)\Rightarrow f(x)+f(f(x))=2x$
So $f(f(x))=2x-f(x)$, thus $f(x)(2x-f(x))=x^2$, which factors as $(x-f(x))^2=0$, hence $\boxed{f(x)=x}$, which is the only remaining solution.
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Solution
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Hello, the equation in hand is f (x) f (y f(x) - 1) = x ^ 2 f (y) - f (x)
Assume there is some other function since f (x) =0
x = y = 0 => f (0) f (-1) = -f (0) => f(0) = 0 /f(-1) = -1
Taking f (0) = 0 and substitute y = 0
=> f (-1) = -1
Taking f (-1) = -1 and substitute y = 0
=> f (0) = 0
This proves that both statements provided before are equivalent
Considering that there exists an a which is not equal to 0 such that f (a) = 0,
Substituting x = a and y = -1. This will eliminate the case.
Substituting P (x, y)
P (-1, y) => -f (-y -1) = f(y) + 1 => f (y-1) = -f (-y) -1


Now substitute this in the original equation available to get
F (x) f (f (x)) = x^2
P(1, 1)
f(1) f (f(1) -1) = 0
f(1) = 1
Then, P (1,y) = f; This is an odd function

Use f (x +1) = f(x) +1 to get rid of the 1


Put x = x + 1, y = 1 to get
F (f(x)) = 2 x - f (x)

Now substitute f (x) f (f(x)) = x ^2 with f (f (x)) = 2x - f (x)
(f(x) - x) ^ 2 = 0
f(x) = x


Working functions: f (x) = 0 and f (x) =x
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We will prove that $f\equiv0$ and $f(x)=x$ are the only solutions.
Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion in $f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x)$.
It can be easily seen that the only constant function that works is $\boxed{f \equiv 0}$, which is our first solution.
Let $f$ be non-constant.
Claim 1 : $f(0)=0$.
Proof :
$P(0,y) : f(0)f(yf(0)-1)=-f(0)$
Assume possible $f(0)\neq0$.
Then, $f(yf(0)-1)=-1$.
As $f(0)\neq0$, as we vary $y$ over $\mathbb{R}$, $yf(0)-1$ also varies over $\mathbb{R}$.
Hence, $f(x)=-1 \forall x $.But $f\equiv-1$ doesn't satisfy given equation.
Contradiction!
Hence proved claim 1!
Claim 2 : $f$ injective.
Proof :
Let $f(a)=f(b)$.
Let $c$ be such that $f(c)\neq0$.
$P(a,c)-P(b,c) : a^2=b^2 \implies a = \pm b$.
Hence, $f(a)=f(b) \implies a= \pm b ...(1)$.
Assume that $a=-b$ ($a,b \neq 0$) is possible.
$P(c,a)-P(c,b) : f(af(c)-1)=f(bf(c)-1) \overset{(1)}{\implies} af(c)-1= \pm (bf(c)-1) \overset{a=-b}{\implies} af(c)-1= \pm (-af(c)-1)$.
If $af(c)-1=-af(c)-1$, we get $a=0$. Contradiction.
If $af(c)-1=-(-af(c)-1)$, we get $-1=1$. Contradiction!
Hence, if $f(a)=f(b)$, $a=-b$ is not possible.
Combining with $(1)$, we get $f(a)=f(b)\implies a=b$.
Hence proved claim 2!

Hence note that , $f(x) \neq 0 \forall x\neq 0$.
Claim 3 : $f(1)=1$.
Proof :
$P(1,1) : f(1)\cdot f(f(1)-1)=0 \implies f(f(1)-1)=0 \implies f(1)-1=0 \implies f(1)=1$.
(Here we used claim 1 and claim 2)
Hence Proved claim 3!
Claim 4 : $f(-1)=-1$.
Proof :
$P(x,0) : f(x)f(-1)=-f(x) \implies f(-1)=-1$. (Here we used claim 1 and claim 2)
Hence proved claim 4!
Claim 5 : The given equation reduces to $f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$.
Proof :
$P(1,y) : f(y-1)=f(y)-1...(2)$. (Here we used claim 3)
$y\rightarrow yf(x) : f(yf(x)-1)=f(yf(x))-1$.
Substituting this in given equation, we get $$f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$$.
Hence proved claim 4!

Let $R(x,y)$ be the assertion in $f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)$.
Claim 6 : $f(x+1)=f(x)+1$ and $f(x^2)=f(x)^2$.
Proof :
$(2) : f(y)=f(y-1)+1 \implies f(y+1)=f(y)+1$.

$R(f(x),f(x)) : f(f(x)f(f(x)))=f(x)^2$.
$R(x,1) : f(x)f(f(x))=x^2 \implies f(f(x)f(f(x))=f(x^2)$.
Hence, $f(x)^2=f(x^2)$ (From last two equations).
Hence proved claim 6!
From claim 6, its well-known that ${f(x)=x}$ is the solution.
$\boxed{f(x)=x}$ indeed works and is our second solution!
Hence, we are done :D
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Let $P(x,y)$ denote the given assertion.

$P(0,x): f(0)f(xf(0)-1)=-f(0)$.

So either $f(0)=0$ or $f(xf(0)-1)=-1$ for any $x$. If $f(0)\ne 0$, then $xf(0)-1$ can take on any real value, which implies $f\equiv -1$, which is not a solution. Thus, we have $f(0)=0$.

Now, noting $\boxed{f\equiv 0}$ works, we can assume $f$ is non-constant.

Claim: $f$ is injective.
Proof: Suppose $f(a)=f(b)$ with $a\ne b$.

$P(a,x): f(a)f(xf(a)-1)=a^2f(x)-f(a)$.

$P(b,x): f(b)f(xf(b)-1)=b^2f(x)-f(b)$.

This implies $a^2f(x)=b^2f(x)$. If we set $x$ such that $f(x)\ne 0$, then $a^2=b^2\implies a=\pm b\implies a=-b$, since $a\ne b$. Then $f(a)=f(-a)$. In fact, this implies $f$ is injective at $0$.

$P(a,-a): f(a)f(-af(a)-1)=a^2f(a)-f(a)$.

$P(-a,a): f(a)f(af(a)-1)=a^2f(a)-f(a)$.

If $f(a)\ne 0$, then we have $f(-af(a)-1)=f(af(a)-1)$. However, this implies either $af(a)+1=af(a)-1$, or $-af(a)-1=af(a)-1$, both are absurd. So $f(a)\ne f(-a)$.

If $f(a)=0$, then $a=0$.

Since $f$ is injective at $0$, $f$ is injective. $\blacksquare$

$P(x,0): f(x)f(-1)=-f(x)$. If we set $x\ne 0$, then we get $f(-1)=-1$.

$P(1,1): f(1)f(f(1)-1)=0$, so $f(1)=1$.

$P(1,x): f(x-1)=f(x)-1\implies f(x+1)=f(x)+1$.

Now we rearrange the FE.

We have $f(x)(f(yf(x))-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x)$, so \[f(x)f(yf(x))=x^2f(y)\]
Let $Q(x,y)$ be the assertion here.

$Q(x,1): f(x)f(f(x))=x^2\implies f(f(x))=\frac{x^2}{f(x)}$.

$P(x+1,1): (f(x)+1)f(f(x))=(x+1)^2-f(x)-1=x^2+2x-f(x)\implies f(f(x))=\frac{x^2+2x-f(x)}{f(x)+1}$.

This implies\begin{align*}
\frac{x^2}{f(x)}=\frac{x^2+2x-f(x)}{f(x)+1} \\
\implies x^2(f(x)+1)=f(x)(x^2+2x-f(x)) \\
\implies x^2f(x)+x^2=x^2f(x)+2xf(x)-f(x)^2 \\
\implies x^2=2xf(x)-f(x)^2 \\
\implies f(x)^2-2xf(x)+x^2=0 \\
\implies (f(x)-x)^2=0 \\
\implies \boxed{f(x)=x} \\
\end{align*}which clearly works.
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The answer is $f(x)=x$ and $f \equiv 0$ only, which both work. Hence suppose $f \not \equiv 0$. Let $P(x,y)$ denote the assertion.

From $P(x,0)$ we have $f(x)(f(-1)+1)=x^2f(0)$. If $f(-1)+1 \neq 0$, then $f(x)=cx^2$ for some nonzero constant $c \in \mathbb{R}$. But this clearly doesn't work, so $f(-1)=-1$ and thus $f(0)=0$. Then from $P(-1,y)$ we obtain $f(-y-1)=-f(y)-1$.

If $f(x)=0$ for some $x$, by picking $y$ such that $f(y) \neq 0$ we find that $x=0$. Then for $x \neq 0$, $P(x,x)$ gives $f(xf(x)-1)=x^2-1$, hence the range of $f$ contains $(-1,\infty)$. Since $f(-y-1)=-f(y)-1$, the range of $f$ also contains $(-\infty,1)-1$, so $f$ is surjective. Additionally, $P(-1,-1)$ implies $f(-2)=-2$, hence $-f(1)-1=f(-2) \implies f(1)=1$.

Using $f(-y-1)=-f(y)-1$, from $P(x,-1)$ we obtain $f(x)(f(-f(x)-1)+1)=-x^2 \implies f(x)f(f(x))=x^2$. Thus we can rewrite the assertion as $f(yf(x)-1)=f(f(x))f(y)$. From surjectivity, this becomes $f(xy-1)=f(x)f(y)-1$. Comparing $(x,y)$ with $(xy,1)$ and using $f(1)=1$ implies that $f$ is multiplicative. On the other hand, by plugging in $y=1$ we also get $f(x-1)=f(x)-1$.

Since $f$ is multiplicative, we have $f(x^2)=f(x)^2>0$ for all $x>0$, hence $f$ sends positive reals to positive reals. Thus let $g(x)=\log f(e^x)$ sending real numbers to real numbers, so $g$ is additive (by only considering the multiplicativity of $f$ over $\mathbb{R}^+$). On the other hand, $f(x-1)=f(x)-1$ implies that $f(x)>1$ for $x>1$, hence $g(x)>0$ for $x>0$. Therefore $g$ is linear, so $f(x)=x^k$ for some $k \in \mathbb{R}$. Then we have $2^k-1=1$, hence $k=1$ and $f(x)=x$ as desired. $\blacksquare$
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\[f(x)f\left(yf(x)-1\right)=x^2f(y)-f(x)\]Answers are $f(x)=x$ and $f\equiv 0$. Suppose that $f$ is non-constant. Let $P(x,y)$ be the assertion.
Claim: $f(a)=\iff a=0$.
Proof: $P(0,y)$ gives $f(0)(f(yf(0)-1)+1)=0$ thus, we get the result.
Claim: $f(x)+f(-1-x)=-1$.
Proof: $P(x,0)$ yields $f(-1)=-1$ and $P(-1,y)$ implies $f(-y-1)+f(y)=-1$.
\[f(x)f(-yf(x))-f(x)=f(x)(f(-yf(x))-1)=x^2f(y)-f(x)\implies -f(x)f(-yf(x))=x^2f(y)\]Claim: $f$ is injective and odd.
Proof: If $f(a)=f(b)$ where $a\neq b$, then comparing $P(a,y)$ and $P(b,y)$ gives $a^2=b^2$ hence $f(a)=f(-a)$. $P(x,a)$ and $P(x,-a)$ imply $f(af(x))=f(-af(x))$. Since $P(x,x)$ yields $f(-xf(x))=-x^2$, $f$ gets each negative real value hence $f(-ax)=f(ax)$ which is equavilent $f$ to be even. However, this requires $-1=f(x)+f(-1-x)=f(x)+f(x+1)$ and since $f(-1)=-1$, we must have $f(-2)=0$ which is impossible. Also $f(-xf(x))=-x^2=f(xf(-x))$ hence $f(x)=-f(-x)$.
Claim: $f$ is multiplicative.
Proof: Note that we have $f(x)f(y)=x^2f(\frac{y}{f(x)})$. By $P(xf(x),y)$ we get $f(y)=f(x)^2f(\frac{y}{x^2})$ or $f(x^2y)=f(x)^2f(y)$. Since $y=1$ gives $f(x^2)=f(x)^2$, notice that $f(x^2y)=f(x^2)f(y)$ and since $f$ is odd, $f$ is also multiplicative.
The Finish: $f(x)f(y)=x^2f(\frac{y}{f(x)})=x^2f(y)f(\frac{1}{f(x)})$ or $f(x)=x^2f(\frac{1}{f(x)})=\frac{x^2}{f(x)}$ or $f(x)^2=x^2$. Thus, $f(x)=\pm x$. If $f(t)=-t$, then $-t+f(-1-t)=f(t)+f(-1-t)=-1$ but $t-1=f(-t-1)\in \{t+1,-t-1\}$ is impossible unless $t=0$ which is meaningless. Hence $f(x)=x$ as desired.$\blacksquare$
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