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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
Want to help AoPS remain a valuable Olympiad resource? Help us add contests to AoPS's Contest Collections.

Find instructions and a list of contests to add here: https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c40244h1064480_contests_to_add
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dcouchman
Sep 9, 2019
v_Enhance
Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


Everything definitely out of range of common sense will be locked or deleted (exept for new users having less than about 42 posts, they are newbies and need/get some time to learn).

The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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ZetaX
Feb 27, 2007
NoDealsHere
May 4, 2019
f this \8char
v4913   30
N 16 minutes ago by eg4334
Source: EGMO 2022/2
Let $\mathbb{N}=\{1, 2, 3, \dots\}$ be the set of all positive integers. Find all functions $f : \mathbb{N} \rightarrow \mathbb{N}$ such that for any positive integers $a$ and $b$, the following two conditions hold:
(1) $f(ab) = f(a)f(b)$, and
(2) at least two of the numbers $f(a)$, $f(b)$, and $f(a+b)$ are equal.
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v4913
Apr 9, 2022
eg4334
16 minutes ago
Weird length condition
Taco12   16
N an hour ago by lpieleanu
Source: USA January Team Selection Test for EGMO 2023, Problem 4
Let $ABC$ be a triangle with $AB+AC=3BC$. The $B$-excircle touches side $AC$ and line $BC$ at $E$ and $D$, respectively. The $C$-excircle touches side $AB$ at $F$. Let lines $CF$ and $DE$ meet at $P$. Prove that $\angle PBC = 90^{\circ}$.

Ray Li
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Taco12
Jan 16, 2023
lpieleanu
an hour ago
ABC is similar to XYZ
Amir Hossein   56
N an hour ago by lksb
Source: China TST 2011 - Quiz 2 - D2 - P1
Let $AA',BB',CC'$ be three diameters of the circumcircle of an acute triangle $ABC$. Let $P$ be an arbitrary point in the interior of $\triangle ABC$, and let $D,E,F$ be the orthogonal projection of $P$ on $BC,CA,AB$, respectively. Let $X$ be the point such that $D$ is the midpoint of $A'X$, let $Y$ be the point such that $E$ is the midpoint of $B'Y$, and similarly let $Z$ be the point such that $F$ is the midpoint of $C'Z$. Prove that triangle $XYZ$ is similar to triangle $ABC$.
56 replies
Amir Hossein
May 20, 2011
lksb
an hour ago
Cubes and squares
y-is-the-best-_   61
N 2 hours ago by ezpotd
Source: IMO 2019 SL N2
Find all triples $(a, b, c)$ of positive integers such that $a^3 + b^3 + c^3 = (abc)^2$.
61 replies
y-is-the-best-_
Sep 22, 2020
ezpotd
2 hours ago
Chess game challenge
adihaya   21
N 2 hours ago by Mr.Sharkman
Source: 2014 BAMO-12 #5
A chess tournament took place between $2n+1$ players. Every player played every other player once, with no draws. In addition, each player had a numerical rating before the tournament began, with no two players having equal ratings. It turns out there were exactly $k$ games in which the lower-rated player beat the higher-rated player. Prove that there is some player who won no less than $n-\sqrt{2k}$ and no more than $n+\sqrt{2k}$ games.
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adihaya
Feb 22, 2016
Mr.Sharkman
2 hours ago
[ELMO2] The Multiplication Table
v_Enhance   27
N 2 hours ago by Mr.Sharkman
Source: ELMO 2015, Problem 2 (Shortlist N1)
Let $m$, $n$, and $x$ be positive integers. Prove that \[ \sum_{i = 1}^n \min\left(\left\lfloor \frac{x}{i} \right\rfloor, m \right) = \sum_{i = 1}^m \min\left(\left\lfloor \frac{x}{i} \right\rfloor, n \right). \]
Proposed by Yang Liu
27 replies
v_Enhance
Jun 27, 2015
Mr.Sharkman
2 hours ago
Problem 1
randomusername   74
N 3 hours ago by Mr.Sharkman
Source: IMO 2015, Problem 1
We say that a finite set $\mathcal{S}$ of points in the plane is balanced if, for any two different points $A$ and $B$ in $\mathcal{S}$, there is a point $C$ in $\mathcal{S}$ such that $AC=BC$. We say that $\mathcal{S}$ is centre-free if for any three different points $A$, $B$ and $C$ in $\mathcal{S}$, there is no points $P$ in $\mathcal{S}$ such that $PA=PB=PC$.

(a) Show that for all integers $n\ge 3$, there exists a balanced set consisting of $n$ points.

(b) Determine all integers $n\ge 3$ for which there exists a balanced centre-free set consisting of $n$ points.

Proposed by Netherlands
74 replies
randomusername
Jul 10, 2015
Mr.Sharkman
3 hours ago
Find Triples of Integers
termas   41
N 3 hours ago by ilikemath247365
Source: IMO 2015 problem 2
Find all positive integers $(a,b,c)$ such that
$$ab-c,\quad bc-a,\quad ca-b$$are all powers of $2$.

Proposed by Serbia
41 replies
termas
Jul 10, 2015
ilikemath247365
3 hours ago
DO NOT OVERSLEEP JOHN MACKEY’S CLASS
ike.chen   31
N 3 hours ago by Mr.Sharkman
Source: USA TSTST 2023/4
Let $n\ge 3$ be an integer and let $K_n$ be the complete graph on $n$ vertices. Each edge of $K_n$ is colored either red, green, or blue. Let $A$ denote the number of triangles in $K_n$ with all edges of the same color, and let $B$ denote the number of triangles in $K_n$ with all edges of different colors. Prove
\[ B\le 2A+\frac{n(n-1)}{3}.\](The complete graph on $n$ vertices is the graph on $n$ vertices with $\tbinom n2$ edges, with exactly one edge joining every pair of vertices. A triangle consists of the set of $\tbinom 32=3$ edges between $3$ of these $n$ vertices.)

Proposed by Ankan Bhattacharya
31 replies
ike.chen
Jun 26, 2023
Mr.Sharkman
3 hours ago
Grade IX - Problem I
icx   23
N 3 hours ago by shendrew7
Source: Romanian National Mathematical Olympiad 2007
Let $a, b, c, d \in \mathbb{N^{*}}$ such that the equation \[x^{2}-(a^{2}+b^{2}+c^{2}+d^{2}+1)x+ab+bc+cd+da=0 \] has an integer solution. Prove that the other solution is integer too and both solutions are perfect squares.
23 replies
icx
Apr 13, 2007
shendrew7
3 hours ago
USAMO 2002 Problem 2
MithsApprentice   35
N 3 hours ago by sami1618
Let $ABC$ be a triangle such that
\[ \left( \cot \dfrac{A}{2} \right)^2 + \left( 2\cot \dfrac{B}{2} \right)^2 + \left( 3\cot \dfrac{C}{2} \right)^2 = \left( \dfrac{6s}{7r} \right)^2,  \]
where $s$ and $r$ denote its semiperimeter and its inradius, respectively. Prove that triangle $ABC$ is similar to a triangle $T$ whose side lengths are all positive integers with no common divisors and determine these integers.
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MithsApprentice
Sep 30, 2005
sami1618
3 hours ago
Center lies on altitude
plagueis   17
N 4 hours ago by bin_sherlo
Source: Mexico National Olympiad 2018 Problem 6
Let $ABC$ be an acute-angled triangle with circumference $\Omega$. Let the angle bisectors of $\angle B$ and $\angle C$ intersect $\Omega$ again at $M$ and $N$. Let $I$ be the intersection point of these angle bisectors. Let $M'$ and $N'$ be the respective reflections of $M$ and $N$ in $AC$ and $AB$. Prove that the center of the circle passing through $I$, $M'$, $N'$ lies on the altitude of triangle $ABC$ from $A$.

Proposed by Victor Domínguez and Ariel García
17 replies
plagueis
Nov 6, 2018
bin_sherlo
4 hours ago
IMO Shortlist 2014 C6
hajimbrak   22
N 4 hours ago by awesomeming327.
We are given an infinite deck of cards, each with a real number on it. For every real number $x$, there is exactly one card in the deck that has $x$ written on it. Now two players draw disjoint sets $A$ and $B$ of $100$ cards each from this deck. We would like to define a rule that declares one of them a winner. This rule should satisfy the following conditions:
1. The winner only depends on the relative order of the $200$ cards: if the cards are laid down in increasing order face down and we are told which card belongs to which player, but not what numbers are written on them, we can still decide the winner.
2. If we write the elements of both sets in increasing order as $A =\{ a_1 , a_2 , \ldots, a_{100} \}$ and $B= \{ b_1 , b_2 , \ldots , b_{100} \}$, and $a_i > b_i$ for all $i$, then $A$ beats $B$.
3. If three players draw three disjoint sets $A, B, C$ from the deck, $A$ beats $B$ and $B$ beats $C$ then $A$ also beats $C$.
How many ways are there to define such a rule? Here, we consider two rules as different if there exist two sets $A$ and $B$ such that $A$ beats $B$ according to one rule, but $B$ beats $A$ according to the other.

Proposed by Ilya Bogdanov, Russia
22 replies
hajimbrak
Jul 11, 2015
awesomeming327.
4 hours ago
annoying algebra with sequence :/
tabel   1
N 4 hours ago by L_.
Source: random 9th grade text book (section meant for contests)
Let \( a_1 = 1 \) and \( a_{n+1} = 1 + \frac{n}{a_n} \) for \( n \geq 1 \). Prove that the sequence \( (a_n)_{n \geq 1} \) is increasing.
1 reply
tabel
Yesterday at 4:55 PM
L_.
4 hours ago
IMO ShortList 2002, geometry problem 2
orl   28
N May 25, 2025 by ezpotd
Source: IMO ShortList 2002, geometry problem 2
Let $ABC$ be a triangle for which there exists an interior point $F$ such that $\angle AFB=\angle BFC=\angle CFA$. Let the lines $BF$ and $CF$ meet the sides $AC$ and $AB$ at $D$ and $E$ respectively. Prove that \[ AB+AC\geq4DE. \]
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orl
Sep 28, 2004
ezpotd
May 25, 2025
IMO ShortList 2002, geometry problem 2
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Source: IMO ShortList 2002, geometry problem 2
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Let $ABC$ be a triangle for which there exists an interior point $F$ such that $\angle AFB=\angle BFC=\angle CFA$. Let the lines $BF$ and $CF$ meet the sides $AC$ and $AB$ at $D$ and $E$ respectively. Prove that \[ AB+AC\geq4DE. \]
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Please post your solutions. This is just a solution template to write up your solutions in a nice way and formatted in LaTeX. But maybe your solution is so well written that this is not required finally. For more information and instructions regarding the ISL/ILL problems please look here: introduction for the IMO ShortList/LongList project and regardingsolutions :)
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Sorry if it's a bit murky. I remember posting this one too, and giving a solution I was proud of (can't remember if I actually posted it). However, I can't find that solution.. [Moderator edit: This was at http://www.mathlinks.ro/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=220 .]

Let $D',E'$ be the images of $D,E$ through the homothety of center $F$ and ratio $4$. We have to show that $D'E'\le AB+AC$, so it would be enough to show $AE'+AD'\le AB+AC$. Again, we notice that it's enough to show $AD'\le AC\ (*)$. Let $X$ be the vertex of the equilateral triangle $CAX$, lying on the opposite side of $CA$ as $B$. Clearly, $AX=AC$, so $(*)$ is equivalent to $FD'\le FX=FA+FC$ (the last equality is well-known, and it follows from Ptolemy's equality applied to the cyclic quadrilateral $AFCX$) or, in other words, $4FD\le FA+FC$. In terms of areas, this means $4S(FAC)\le S(AFCX)\iff 3S(FAC)\le S(XAC)$, and this is clear since for fixed $XAC$, the area $FAC$ reaches its maximum when $FA=FC$, and in this case we have equality in the above inequality.

I think this pretty much ends the proof: we have shown that $4FD\le FX$, which is, as we have shown, equivalent to the initial problem.
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I saw this problem these days and I was pretty sure it was an ISL problem.

Lets take the equilateral triangles $ ACP$ and $ ABQ$ on the exterior of the triangle $ ABC$.

We have that $ \angle{APC} + \angle{AFC} = 180$, therefore the points $ A,P,F,C$ are concyclic.

But $ \angle{AFP} = \angle{ACP} = 60 = \angle{AFD}$, so $ D \in (FP)$.
Analoguosly we have that $ E \in (FQ)$.

Now observe that $ \frac {FP}{FD} = 1 + \frac {DP}{FD} = 1 + \frac {[APC]}{[AFC]}\geq 4$, and the equality occurs when $ F$ is the midpoint of $ \widehat{AC}$.

Therefore $ FD \leq \frac {1}{4}FP$, and $ FE \leq \frac {1}{4}FQ$.

So, by taking it metrical, we have that:
$ DE = \sqrt {FD^{2} + FE^{2} + FD \cdot FE}\leq \frac {1}{4}\cdot \sqrt {FP^{2} + FQ^{2} + FP \cdot FQ} = \frac {1}{4}PQ$

But $ PQ \leq AP + AQ = AB + AC$, and thus the problem is solved.
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This post was also a spam and as I am unable to delete this post,i am writing the proof of $\frac{[APC]}{[AFC]} \ge 3$.

Note that
$(AF-CF)^2 \ge 0 \Rightarrow AF^2+CF^2+AF*CF \ge 3AF*CF \Rightarrow AC^2 \ge 3AF*CF \Rightarrow AP*CP\sin60^{\circ} \ge 3AF*CF\sin120^{\circ} \Rightarrow \frac{[APC]}{[AFC]} \ge 3$.
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This is a really nice problem! Thanks to sayantanchakraborty for giving some crucial hints leading to the following solution.

Since $\angle BFC, \angle CFA, \angle AFB$ are all equal and sum up to $360^{\circ},$ they must each be equal to $120^{\circ}.$ Construct a point $B'$ outside $\triangle ABC$ such that $\triangle ABB'$ is equilateral. Define point $C'$ analogously. Since $\angle AB'B + \angle AFB = 60^{\circ} + 120^{\circ} = 180^{\circ},$ points $A,B',B,P$ are concyclic. Furthermore, since $\angle B'FB = \angle B'AB = 60^{\circ} = 180^{\circ} - \angle BFC,$ points $C,F,D,B'$ are collinear.

I claim that $FB' \geq 4FD.$ This is equivalent to
\begin{align*}
[\triangle AB'C] & \geq 3[\triangle APC] \\
\iff AB' \cdot B'C \cdot  \sin (60^{\circ}) & \geq 3 \cdot AF \cdot CF \cdot \sin (120^{\circ}) \\
\iff AB' \cdot B'C & \geq 3 \cdot AF \cdot CF .\end{align*}
By cosine rule on $\triangle AB'C,$
\begin{align*}
AC^2 & = AB'^2 + B'C^2 - 2 \cdot AB' \cdot B'C \cdot \cos (60^{\circ})  \\
& = AB'^2 + B'C^2 - AB' \cdot B'C \\
& \geq AB' \cdot B'C , \end{align*}
where we have used the trivial inequality $AB'^2 + B'C^2 \geq 2 \cdot AB' \cdot B'C.$ Hence, it suffices to show that
\begin{align*}
AC^2 & \geq 3 \cdot AF \cdot CF \\
\iff AF^2 + CF^2 - 2 \cdot AF \cdot CF \cos (120^{\circ}) & \geq 3 \cdot AF \cdot CF \\ 
\iff AF^2 + CF^2 & \geq 2 \cdot AF \cdot CF,\end{align*}
which is true. Similar arguments show that $FC' \geq 4FE.$

The rest is obvious. Both the dilations centered at $F$ which map to $B$ to $B'$ and $C$ to $C'$ have ratio at least 4, so $B'C' \geq 4DE.$ By triangle inequality, we have that
\[AB'+A'C \geq B'C' \implies AB+AC \geq 4DE. \quad \blacksquare\]

For equality to hold, we need $AF=BF=CF,$ that is, the Fermat point must be the circumcenter of $\triangle ABC.$ This is possible iff $\triangle ABC$ is equilateral, because $ \angle AFB = 2 \angle ACB \implies \angle ACB = 60^{\circ}$ and similarly $\angle ABC= 60^{\circ}.$
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Erect equilateral triangles $AMC$ and $ANC$ outwardly on the sides of $\triangle ABC$. It is well known that $F \in BM$ and $D \in CN$.

$\blacksquare\boxed{\text{Lemma 1}}$ $\frac{1}{FD}=\frac{1}{FA}+\frac{1}{FC}$ and $\frac{1}{FE}=\frac{1}{FA}+\frac{1}{FB}$ .
Proof
Taking $\angle FAC= \alpha$ and $\angle FCA= \beta$ and using $\alpha + \beta =60$ ,$$\frac{FD}{FA}+\frac{FD}{FC}=\frac{sin(\alpha)}{sin(60+\beta)}+\frac{sin(\beta)}{sin(60+\beta)}=1$$and other part is analogously proved.

$\blacksquare\boxed{\text{Lemma 2}}$ $FA+FC \geq 4FD$ and $FA+FB \geq 4FE$
Proof
By lemma 1 , $\frac{FA+FC}{FD}= \left(\frac{1}{FA} + \frac{1}{FC} \right) \cdot ( FA+FC ) \geq 4 \implies FA+FC \geq 4FD$
The other part follows analogously.
Using lemma 2 $$ AB+AC =
 AN+AM 
\geq MN = \sqrt{FN^2+FM^2+FN \cdot FM }
= \sqrt{ (FA+FB)^2+(FA+FC)^2+(FA+FB)\cdot(FA+FC)} 
\geq 4 \cdot \sqrt{FC^2+FD^2+FC \cdot FD}=4DE$$
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Construct equilateral triangles $ACX$ and $ABY$ outside of $ABC$, so it's well known that $BFDX$ and $CFEY$ are lines. $YAFB$ is cyclic, so consider the tangent at the point $T$, the antipode of $Y$, labeled as line $\ell$. Note that $d(Y,AB):d(Y,\ell)=3:4$, so then $\dfrac{FE}{FY}\le \dfrac 14$ with equality only when $F=T$, and similarly $\dfrac{FD}{FX}\le \dfrac 14$. Let $M$ and $N$ be the points on segments $FY$ and $FX$, respectively, such that $\dfrac{FM}{FY}=\dfrac 14$ and $\dfrac{FN}{FX}=\dfrac 14$. Then since $FE\le FM$ and $FD\le FN$, $DE=\sqrt{FD^2+FE^2+FD\cdot FE}\le \sqrt{FN^2+FM^2+FN\cdot FM}=MN=\dfrac{XY}{4}\le \dfrac{AB+AC}{4}$, as desired.
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cute

solution
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Trigonometry is the best weapon.
orl wrote:
Let $ABC$ be a triangle for which there exists an interior point $F$ such that $\angle AFB=\angle BFC=\angle CFA$. Let the lines $BF$ and $CF$ meet the sides $AC$ and $AB$ at $D$ and $E$ respectively. Prove that \[ AB+AC\geq4DE. \]
Clearly $\angle AFB=\angle BFC=\angle CFA=120^o.$ Now, erect equilateral triangles $ABC', BCA', CAB'$ on the sides, externally. Then $AFBC'. AFCB'$ are cyclic. Hence, $\angle C'FA+\angle AFC=\angle C'BA+\angle AFC=60^o+120^o=180^o,$ and so $C, F, C'$ are collinear. We get two more symmetric results and so $F$ is teh Fermat point given by $AA' \cap BB' \cap CC'.$

Claim: $FE: FC' \le 1:4.$
Proof: Ptolemy yields $FC'=FA+FB.$ Hence, it suffices to show
$$FA+FB \ge 4FE$$Let $\angle FAB=x.$ Then it suffices to show
$$\frac{FA}{FB}+1 \ge \frac{4FE}{FB} \Leftrightarrow \frac{sin(60^o-x)}{sinx}+1 \ge \frac{4sin(60^o-x)}{sin(60^o+x)}$$$$\Leftrightarrow \left(cosx-\sqrt{3}sinx \right)^2 \ge 0$$which is true. $\square$

Similarly we get $FD:FB' \le 1:4$ and so we get $4DE \le B'C' \le AC'+AB'=AB+AC,$ as desired. $\blacksquare$
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orl wrote:
Let $ABC$ be a triangle for which there exists an interior point $F$ such that $\angle AFB=\angle BFC=\angle CFA$. Let the lines $BF$ and $CF$ meet the sides $AC$ and $AB$ at $D$ and $E$ respectively. Prove that \[ AB+AC\geq4DE. \]

The problem is a masterpiece.
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Solution (bash bash bash)
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Construct points $X, Y, Z$ forming equilateral triangles $\triangle BCX$, $\triangle CAY$, $\triangle ABZ$ sticking out from the triangle. Evidently, $F$ is the intersection of the three circumcircles of these equilateral triangles.

Observe additionally that $F \in \overline{AX}$, and in particular $F$ is the concurrence point of $\overline{AX}$, $\overline{BY}$, and $\overline{CZ}$. Note now that $\angle DFE = \angle BFC = 120^\circ$.

Thus, we can calculate \begin{align*}
    DE^2 = DF^2 + FE^2 - 2 \cdot DF \cdot FE \cdot \cos{120^\circ} = DF^2 + FE^2 + DF \cdot FE.
\end{align*}As $F$ varies along $(ABZ)$ with length $AB$ fixed, note that the maximum length of $FE$ occurs when $\overline{FZ} \perp \overline{AB}$, and this is also the case for the minimum length of $FZ$. Thus $\frac{FE}{FZ} \leq \frac{1}{4}$.

As a result, we know \begin{align*}
    DE^2 &= DF^2 + FE^2 + DF \cdot FE \\
    &\leq \frac{1}{16} (FZ^2 + FY^2 + FZ \cdot FY) \\
    &= \frac{1}{16} YZ^2 \\
    &\leq \frac{1}{16} (AZ + AY)^2 \\
    &= \frac{1}{16} (AB + AC)^2,
\end{align*}as desired.
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Solved with Alex Zhao, Elliott Liu, Connie Jiang, Groovy (\help), Jeffrey Chen, Nicole Shen, and Raymond Feng.

Externally construct equilateral triangles \(ACY\) and \(ABZ\), so that \(B\), \(F\), \(D\), \(Y\) are collinear and \(C\), \(F\), \(E\), \(Z\) are collinear.

[asy]         size(7cm); defaultpen(fontsize(10pt));         pair A,B,C,Y,Z,F,D,EE;         A=dir(110);         B=dir(220);         C=dir(320);         Y=A+(C-A)*dir(60);         Z=B+(A-B)*dir(60);         F=extension(B,Y,C,Z);         D=extension(B,Y,A,C);         EE=extension(C,Z,A,B);

draw(D--EE);         draw(B--Y,gray);         draw(C--Z,gray);         draw(circumcircle(A,F,C),linewidth(.3));         draw(circumcircle(A,F,B),linewidth(.3));         draw(C--Y--A--Z--B);         draw(A--B--C--cycle,linewidth(.7));

dot("\(A\)",A,dir(105));         dot("\(B\)",B,S);         dot("\(C\)",C,S);         dot("\(F\)",F,dir(265));         dot("\(Y\)",Y,dir(30));         dot("\(Z\)",Z,dir(150));         dot("\(D\)",D,dir(-5));         dot("\(E\)",EE,dir(210));     [/asy]

Observe that \(FY/FD\ge4\) and \(FZ/FE\ge4\). It follows that \begin{align*}     AB+AC=AY+AZ\ge YZ&=\sqrt{FY^2+FZ^2+FY\cdot FZ}\\     &\ge4\sqrt{FD^2+FE^2+FD\cdot FE}=4DE, \end{align*}as needed.
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mihaig
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orl wrote:
Let $ABC$ be a triangle for which there exists an interior point $F$ such that $\angle AFB=\angle BFC=\angle CFA$. Let the lines $BF$ and $CF$ meet the sides $AC$ and $AB$ at $D$ and $E$ respectively. Prove that \[ AB+AC\geq4DE. \]

See also here https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c6t243f6h2624066_a_refinement_of_imo_shl_2002
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First ISL solution in a while. This is the type of problem where if you don't know this property of the Fermat point it's hard to solve (I certainly couldn't do it) and if you know it it's very quick (after I got a hint with the property I solved it within fifteen minutes).

It is well-known that $F$ is the Toricelli/1st Fermat point of $\triangle ABC$. It is a well-known property of $F$ that if $ABG$ and $ACH$ are equilateral triangles erected outward from $AB$ and $AC$, respectively, $C,F,G$ are collinear and $AGBF$ is cyclic (similarly $B,F,H$ are collinear and $AHCF$ is cyclic).

Notice that as $F$ is on minor arc $AB$, the minimum possible value of $\frac{GE}{EF}$ occurs when $F$ is on the midpoint of the arc, as this maximizes $EF$ and minimizes $EG$. In that case, it is easy to show that $\frac{EG}{EF}=3$ and thus $\frac{FG}{FE}=4$, hence it must be true that $\frac{FG}{FE}\ge 4$ and similarly $\frac{FH}{FD}\ge 4$.

Let $FG=\alpha FE$ and $FH=\beta FD$, where $\alpha, \beta \ge 4$. Since $\angle EFD = 120^{\circ}$, by LoC on $\triangle FED$ we get $$ED=\sqrt{FE^2+FD^2-2FE\cdot FD \cos{120^{\circ}}}=\sqrt{FE^2+FD^2+FE\cdot FD}.$$Using LoC on $\triangle FGH$, we get

\begin{align*} 
HG &= \sqrt{FG^2+FH^2-2FG\cdot FH\cos{120^{\circ}}} \\ &= \sqrt{FG^2+FH^2+FG\cdot FH} \\ &= \sqrt{(\alpha FE)^2+(\beta FD)^2+(\alpha FE)(\beta FD)} \\ &= \sqrt{\alpha^2 FE^2+\beta^2 FD^2+\alpha\beta FE\cdot FD} \\ & \ge \sqrt{16FE^2+16FD^2+16FE\cdot FD} \\ &= 4\sqrt{FE^2+FD^2+FE\cdot FD} \\ &= 4ED.
\end{align*}
By the Triangle Inequality, $AG+AH\ge GH \ge 4ED$, finishing the problem.
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Let $B', C'$ be such that $ACB', ABC'$ are equilateral. We have that $C,F,C'$ and $B,F,B'$ are collinear.

Claim: $EC' \ge 3EF$

Proof: Note that $\frac{FE}{C'E} = \frac{AF}{AC'}  \frac{\sin \angle FAB}{\sin \angle C'AB} = \frac{AF}{c} \frac{2\sin \angle FAB}{\sqrt{3}}$. Let $AF = x$, $BF = y$. Note that $R$, the circumradius of $(AFBC')$, is equal to $\frac{c}{\sqrt{3}}$.

We have $2R = \frac{y}{\sin \angle FAB} \implies \sin \angle FAB = \frac{y}{2R} = \frac{\sqrt{3}y}{2c}$.

So $\frac{FE}{C'E} = \frac{x}{c} \frac{y}{c} = \frac{xy}{c^2}$.

Observe that $c^2 = x^2 + y^2 + xy \ge 3xy \implies \frac{xy}{c^2} \le \frac{1}{3}$.

So we have $\frac{FE}{C'E} \le \frac{1}{3} \implies C'E \ge 3FE$, as claimed. $\square$.

From the claim, we have $DE \le \frac{B'C'}{4} \le \frac{AB' + AC'}{4} = \frac{AB+AC}{4} \implies AB + AC \ge 4DE$, as desired. $\blacksquare$
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Note that ∠AFB = ∠BFC = ∠CFA = 120 so making regular triangles with bases AB and AC is a good move.
Let S and K be outside ABC such that ABS and ACK are regular triangles. Note that AFBS and AFCK are cyclic. Let O1,O2 be reflections of F across AB and AC. FE/ES = [AFB]/[ABS] = [AO1B]/[ASB] ≤ 1/3 so FS ≥ 4FE. Same way we can prove FK ≥ 4FD. so SK ≥ 4DE and SK ≤ AS + AK = AB + AC.
we're Done.
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Try the refinement
https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c6t243f6h2624066_a_refinement_of_imo_shl_2002
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awesomeming327.
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What.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925784397469331477/952399059321245766/Screen_Shot_2022-03-12_at_7.53.43_PM.png?width=864&height=1170

Let $G$ be on $FD$ extended such that $\angle AGC=60^\circ.$ Let $H$ be on $FE$ extended such that $\angle AHB=60^\circ.$ Note that $AFCG$ is cyclic. Also, $\angle AFD=60^\circ$ and $\angle CFD=60^\circ$ so $\angle CAG=\angle ACG=60^\circ.$ Thus, $ACG$ is equilateral. Similarly, $AHB$ is equilateral. Now, $AB+AC\ge HG.$ Since $\angle HFG$ is obtuse, it suffices to show $HF\ge 4EF$ and $GF\ge 4DF$ to prove that $HG\ge 4ED.$

Note that $\triangle HFA\sim \triangle HAE$ by AA so $\frac{HE}{HF}=\left(\frac{HE}{HA}\right)^2\ge \left(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\right)\ge \frac{3}{4},$ which implies the result that $HF\ge 4EF$. Similarly, $GD\ge 4DF.$ Now, WLOG suppose the parallel line through $E$ parallel to $HG$ lies outside of $\triangle EDF.$ Then this line intersects $FG$ at $J.$ $HG\ge EJ\ge ED$ as desired.
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Construct equilateral triangles $\triangle ABX$ and $\triangle ACY$ outside of $\triangle ABC$ and note that $AXBF$ and $AYCF$ are cyclic. It's easy to see that $FX\ge 4FE$ and $FY\ge 4FD$ so by the Law of Cosines we easily obtain $XY\ge 4DE$ so that
\[AB+AC=AX+AY\ge XY\ge 4DE.\]We are done. $\blacksquare$
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Really cute :)
orl wrote:
Let $ABC$ be a triangle for which there exists an interior point $F$ such that $\angle AFB=\angle BFC=\angle CFA$. Let the lines $BF$ and $CF$ meet the sides $AC$ and $AB$ at $D$ and $E$ respectively. Prove that \[ AB+AC\geq4DE. \]

Draw points $K, L$ such that $AKB$ and $ALC$ are equilateral triangles. Clearly, $AFCL, AFBK$ are cyclic quads, and $\angle AFL=\angle ACL=180^{\circ}-\angle AFB=60^{\circ}$ implies $B, F, D, L$ are collinear. Similarly, $C, F, E,$ and $K,$ are collinear. Now $AB+AC=AK+AL \ge KL$ so it suffices to show that $DE \leq \tfrac{1}{4} KL$.

We will show that $FE \leq \tfrac{1}{4}FK$ and $FD \leq \tfrac{1}{4}FL$. It suffices to prove the following two lemmas to finish:

Lemma 1. Point $W$ lies on arc $\widehat{YZ}$ of the circumcircle of equilateral triangle $XYZ$ not containing $X$ and line $XW$ meets $YZ$ at point $T$. Then $WX \geq 4WT$.

Proof: Indeed, it is enough to show $XT \ge 3WT$. Now $XT$ is larger than the $X$-median of $\triangle XYZ$ and $WT$ is smaller than the length it achieves when $W$ is antipodal to $X$. For rigour, this follows as $XW \cdot XT$ is fixed by shooting lemma. When $W$ is antipodal, equality is achieved, proving the lemma.

Lemma 2. In obtuse triangle $XYZ$ with obtuse angle at $X$, points $Y_1, Z_1$ lie on rays $XY, XZ$ such that $XY \geq 4XY_1$ and $XZ \geq 4XZ_1$. Then $YZ \geq 4Y_1Z_1$.

Proof: Scale by a factor of $4$ to assume $XY_1 \leq XY$ and $XZ_1 \le XZ$. Now $Y_1Z_1<Y_1Z$ as $\angle Y_1Z_1Z>\angle Y_1XZ>90^{\circ}$ and $Y_1Z<YZ$ as $\angle YY_1Z>\angle YXZ>90^{\circ}$, so $Y_1Z_1<YZ$ unless $Y_1=Y$ and $Z_1=Z$, proving the claim.

Finally, by combining Lemma 1 and Lemma 2 in triangle $FKL$ for points $D$ and $E$, the conclusion follows.
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Construct equilateral triangles $ABX$ and $ACY$ so that both are not in the of $ABC$. Then it is well known that $A$, $F$, $X$ and $B$, $F$, $Y$ are collinear, and moreover $AXBF$, $AYCF$ are cyclic. Now we can obtain $FX\ge 4FE$, $FY\ge 4FD$ and hence by LOC $XY \ge 4DE$. To finish,
\[AB+AC=AX+AY\ge XY\ge 4DE\]as desired. $\square$
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Point $F$ is $\textbf{First Fermat Point}$ and construction can easily be found from the theorem thonk:/
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Note $F$ is the Fermat Point. Thus, let $X$ and $Y$ be points such that $\triangle ABX$ and $\triangle ACY$ are equilateral triangles lying outside $\triangle ABC$.

Claim. $FX \geq 4 \cdot FE$ and $FY \geq 4 \cdot FD$.
Proof. We will prove this with area ratios. Note, $AB^2 = AF^2 + FB^2 + AF \cdot FB$, by Law of Cosines.
\begin{align*}
\dfrac{[AXB]}{[AFB]} = \dfrac{\tfrac{\sqrt{3}}{4} \cdot AB^2}{\tfrac{1}{2} \cdot AF \cdot FB \cdot \sin\left(120^{\circ}\right)} = \dfrac{AF^2 + FB^2 + AF \cdot FB}{AF \cdot FB} = \dfrac{AF}{FB} + \dfrac{FB}{AF} + 1 \geq 3.
\end{align*}Thus, $[AXB] \geq 3 \cdot [AFB]$, thus $XE \geq 3 \cdot EF$ and $FX \geq 4 \cdot FE$. Then, $FY \geq 4 \cdot FD$ follows, as desired. $\blacksquare$

Note that by triangle inequality this clearly implies $XY \geq 4 \cdot DE$. But, $AB + AC = AX + AY \geq XY$, by triangle inequality. Therefore $AB + BC \geq 4 \cdot DE$, as desired.
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Clearly $\angle AFB = \angle BFC = \angle CFA = 120^\circ.$ Erect equilateral triangles $\triangle ACP$ and $\triangle ABQ$ outside of $\triangle ABC.$
Let $AF = x$ and $FB = y.$ Observe that $AFBQ$ is cyclic as $\angle AQB + \angle AFB = 60^\circ + 120^\circ = 180^\circ.$ Thus by Ptolemy on $AFBQ,$ we get $FQ = FA + FB = x + y.$ Since $\triangle FAE \sim \triangle FQB$ (by simple angle-chasing), we get $FE \cdot FQ = FA \cdot FB,$ so $FE = \frac{FA \cdot FB}{FA + FB} = \frac{xy}{x+y}.$ Therefore, $$\frac{FE}{FQ} = \frac{xy}{(x+y)^2} \le \frac{xy}{4xy} = \frac{1}{4}$$by AM-GM on the denominator. Similarly, $\frac{FD}{FP} \le \frac{1}{4}.$ Therefore, $$AB + AC = AQ + AP \ge QP \ge 4DE,$$as desired.
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By similar triangles and angle bisector theorem, we may compute \[EF = AE \cdot \frac{BF}{AB} = AB \cdot \frac{AF}{AF+BF} \cdot \frac{BF}{AB} = \frac{AF \cdot BF}{AF+BF}.\]Now let $a = AF$, $b = BF$, and $c = CF$, and observe that $EF = \frac{ab}{a+b} \leq \frac{a+b}4$ while $FD \leq \frac{a+c}4$. From here, it is very much feasible to directly expand $(AB+AC)^2 \geq 16 DE^2$ using Law of Cosines, but here is a comparatively nicer finish.

Erect equilateral triangles $BCX$, $ACY$, and $ABZ$ outside triangle $ABC$ such that $F = \overline{AX} \cap \overline{BY} \cap \overline{CZ}$, and note that $EF \leq \frac 14 FZ$, et cetera. So \[DE^2 = EF^2+DF^2 + DE \cdot EF \leq \frac{FZ^2+FY^2 + FZ \cdot FY}{16} = \frac{ZY^2}{16} \leq \frac{(AB+AC)^2}{16}\]as needed.

Remark: For some reason, this felt quite hard for G2.
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Let $C'$ be the point outside of $\triangle ABC$, and $C'AB$ is equilateral, by simple angle chase, we have that $C, F, C'$ colinear, and $F$ lies on $(ABC')$. Define $B'$ similarly, notice by triangle inequality, $$B'C' \leq AB' + AC' = AB + AC$$Claim:
In a equilateral triangle $ABC$, the line passes through $C$ is $l$, let $E = \overline{AB} \cap l$, $F = (ABC) \cap l$, then $\frac {CF}{EF} \geq 4$, equality case holds iff $CF \perp AB$.
Proof:
Let $l'$ be the perpendicular to $AB$ from $C$, and $E' = \overline{AB} \cap l', F' = (ABC) \cap l'$. So $CF' = 2R$ is a diameter, and it is trivial that $F'E' = \frac 1 2 R$, so $\frac {CE'}{E'F'} = 3$ and $\frac {CF'}{E'F'} = 4$. Now we can see that $CE$ is the hypotenuse of rt$\triangle CEE'$, so $CE \geq CE'$, also we have $CEE' \sim CF'F$, thus $\frac {CE} {CE'} = \frac {CF'}{CF} = \frac{CE' + E'F'}{CE + EF} \geq 1$ $\Rightarrow \frac {CF' + CF + E'F'} {CF + CF' + EF} \geq 1$ $\Rightarrow CE' + CE + E'F' \geq CE' + CE + EF$ $\Rightarrow E'F' \geq EF$, so $\frac {CE}{EF} \geq \frac{CE'}{E'F'} = 3$, so $\frac{CE}{EF} + 1 = \frac{CE + EF} {EF} = \frac{CF}{EF} \geq 3 + 1 = 4$ as desired. The equality only holds when $F' = F, E' = E$, so when $CF \perp AB$.

Now back to the problem, by the claim, we have that $\frac{C'F}{EF}, \frac{B'F}{DF} \geq 4$, WLOG let $\frac{C'F}{EF} < \frac{B'F}{DF}$, let the parallel line to $DE$ passing through $C$ intersecting $B'D$ at $B''$, then it is trivial that $B''C \leq B'C'$, equality holds when $B'' = B'$. Now we can finish the problem:
$$ 4DE \leq \frac{C'F}{EF} \cdot DE = B''C' \leq B'C' \leq AB + AC$$as desired.
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Let $P,Q$ be outside the triangle such that $ABP, ACQ$ are equilateral. Then $AB + AC = PA + QA \ge PQ$. It suffices to prove $DF \le 4FP, FE \le 4FQ$, however both of these are trivial upon taking altitudes from $F$ to $AB$, $P$ to $AB$ and the symmetric version, the altitude from $P$ has length $\frac{\sqrt 3}{2}AB$, the altitude from $F$ to $AB$ lies on $(ABP)$ on the other side and thus has length at most one third of the altitude from $P$, which gives the desired inequality. The symmetric variant finishes the other side, so we are done.
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