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k a April Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
Want to help AoPS remain a valuable Olympiad resource? Help us add contests to AoPS's Contest Collections.

Find instructions and a list of contests to add here: https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c40244h1064480_contests_to_add
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Sep 9, 2019
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k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


Everything definitely out of range of common sense will be locked or deleted (exept for new users having less than about 42 posts, they are newbies and need/get some time to learn).

The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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May 4, 2019
Find the value
sqing   9
N 19 minutes ago by sqing
Source: 2025 Tsinghua University
Let $A= \lim_{n\to\infty}\tan^n\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{1}{n}\right)  . $ Find the value of $[100A] .$
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sqing
5 hours ago
sqing
19 minutes ago
Dear Sqing: So Many Inequalities...
hashtagmath   30
N 26 minutes ago by sqing
I have noticed thousands upon thousands of inequalities that you have posted to HSO and was wondering where you get the inspiration, imagination, and even the validation that such inequalities are true? Also, what do you find particularly appealing and important about specifically inequalities rather than other branches of mathematics? Thank you :)
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hashtagmath
Oct 30, 2024
sqing
26 minutes ago
Advanced topics in Inequalities
va2010   14
N 38 minutes ago by sqing
So a while ago, I compiled some tricks on inequalities. You are welcome to post solutions below!
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Mar 7, 2015
sqing
38 minutes ago
The point F lies on the line OI in triangle ABC
WakeUp   13
N 41 minutes ago by Nari_Tom
Source: All-Russian Olympiad 2012 Grade 10 Day 2
The point $E$ is the midpoint of the segment connecting the orthocentre of the scalene triangle $ABC$ and the point $A$. The incircle of triangle $ABC$ incircle is tangent to $AB$ and $AC$ at points $C'$ and $B'$ respectively. Prove that point $F$, the point symmetric to point $E$ with respect to line $B'C'$, lies on the line that passes through both the circumcentre and the incentre of triangle $ABC$.
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WakeUp
May 31, 2012
Nari_Tom
41 minutes ago
VOLUNTEERING OPPORTUNITY OPEN TO HIGH/MIDDLE SCHOOLERS
im_space_cadet   0
an hour ago
Hi everyone!
Do you specialize in contest math? Do you have a passion for teaching? Do you want to help leverage those college apps? Well, I have something for all of you.

I am im_space_cadet, and during the fall of last year, I opened my non-profit DeltaMathPrep which teaches students preparing for contest math the problem-solving skills they need in order to succeed at these competitions. Currently, we are very much understaffed and would greatly appreciate the help of more tutors on our platform.

Each week on Saturday and Wednesday, we meet once for each competition: Wednesday for AMC 8 and Saturday for AMC 10 and we go over a past year paper for the entire class. On both of these days, we meet at 9PM EST in the night.

This is a great opportunity for anyone who is looking to have a solid activity to add to their college resumes that requires low effort from tutors and is very flexible with regards to time.

This is the link to our non-profit for anyone who would like to view our initiative:
https://www.deltamathprep.org/

If you are interested in this opportunity, please send me a DM on AoPS or respond to this post expressing your interest. I look forward to having you all on the team!

Thanks,
im_space_cadet
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im_space_cadet
an hour ago
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(2^n -1)!! -1 is divided by 2^n
parmenides51   5
N an hour ago by parmenides51
Source: 2023 Grand Duchy of Lithuania, MC p4 (Baltic Way TST)
Note that $k\ge 1$ for an odd natural number $$k! ! = k \cdot (k - 2)  \cdot  ...  \cdot  1.$$Prove that $2^n$ divides $(2^n -1)!! -1$ for all $n \ge 3$.
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parmenides51
Mar 23, 2024
parmenides51
an hour ago
VOLUNTEERING OPPORTUNITY OPEN TO HIGH/MIDDLE SCHOOLERS
im_space_cadet   0
an hour ago
Hi everyone!
Do you specialize in contest math? Do you have a passion for teaching? Do you want to help leverage those college apps? Well, I have something for all of you.

I am im_space_cadet, and during the fall of last year, I opened my non-profit DeltaMathPrep which teaches students preparing for contest math the problem-solving skills they need in order to succeed at these competitions. Currently, we are very much understaffed and would greatly appreciate the help of more tutors on our platform.

Each week on Saturday and Wednesday, we meet once for each competition: Wednesday for AMC 8 and Saturday for AMC 10 and we go over a past year paper for the entire class. On both of these days, we meet at 9PM EST in the night.

This is a great opportunity for anyone who is looking to have a solid activity to add to their college resumes that requires low effort from tutors and is very flexible with regards to time.

This is the link to our non-profit for anyone who would like to view our initiative:
https://www.deltamathprep.org/

If you are interested in this opportunity, please send me a DM on AoPS or respond to this post expressing your interest. I look forward to having you all on the team!

Thanks,
im_space_cadet
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im_space_cadet
an hour ago
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Transforming a grid to another
Severus   3
N an hour ago by Project_Donkey_into_M4
Source: STEMS 2021 Cat B P5
Sheldon was really annoying Leonard. So to keep him quiet, Leonard decided to do something. He gave Sheldon the following grid

$\begin{tabular}{|c|c|c|c|c|c|}
\hline
1 & 1 & 1 & 1 & 1 & 0\\ 
\hline
1 & 1 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0\\ 
\hline
1 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0\\ 
\hline
1 & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 1\\ 
\hline
1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0\\
\hline
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & 0\\
\hline
\end{tabular}$

and asked him to transform it to the new grid below

$\begin{tabular}{|c|c|c|c|c|c|}
\hline
1 & 2 & 18 &24 &28 &30\\
\hline
21 & 3 & 4 &16 &22 &26\\
\hline
23 &19 & 5 & 6 &14 &20\\
\hline
32 &25 &17 & 7 & 8 &12\\
\hline
33 &34 &27 &15 & 9 &10\\
\hline
35 &31 &36 &29 &13 &11\\
\hline
\end{tabular}$

by only applying the following algorithm:

$\bullet$ At each step, Sheldon must choose either two rows or two columns.

$\bullet$ For two columns $c_1, c_2$, if $a,b$ are entries in $c_1, c_2$ respectively, then we say that $a$ and $b$ are corresponding if they belong to the same row. Similarly we define corresponding entries of two rows. So for Sheldon's choice, if two corresponding entries have the same parity, he should do nothing to them, but if they have different parities, he should add 1 to both of them.

Leonard hoped this would keep Sheldon occupied for some time, but Sheldon immediately said, "But this is impossible!". Was Sheldon right? Justify.
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Severus
Jan 24, 2021
Project_Donkey_into_M4
an hour ago
How many people get waitlisted st promys?
dragoon   16
N an hour ago by sadas123
Asking for a friend here
16 replies
dragoon
Friday at 9:48 PM
sadas123
an hour ago
Inspired by Bet667
sqing   1
N an hour ago by sqing
Source: Own
Let $ x,y\ge 0 $ such that $k(x+y)=1+xy. $ Prove that$$x+k^2y+\frac{1}{x}+\frac{k^2}{y} \geq \frac{k^2(k+1)^2+(k-1)^2}{k}$$Where $ k\in N^+.$
Let $ x,y\ge 0 $ such that $2(x+y)=1+xy. $ Prove that$$x+4y+\frac{1}{x}+\frac{4}{y} \geq \frac{37}{2}$$
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sqing
Today at 3:10 AM
sqing
an hour ago
FE inequality from Iran
mojyla222   2
N an hour ago by sami1618
Source: Iran 2025 second round P5
Find all functions $f:\mathbb{R}^+ \to \mathbb{R}$ such that for all $x,y,z>0$
$$
3(x^3+y^3+z^3)\geq f(x+y+z)\cdot f(xy+yz+xz) \geq (x+y+z)(xy+yz+xz).
$$
2 replies
mojyla222
Yesterday at 9:20 AM
sami1618
an hour ago
Not homogenous inequality
Nguyenhuyen_AG   0
an hour ago
Let $a,b,c$ are positive real numbers. Prove that
\[\frac{1}{(2a+1)(2b+1)}+\frac{1}{(2b+1)(2c+1)}+\frac{1}{(2c+1)(2a+1)} \geqslant \frac{3}{3+2(ab+bc+ca)}.\]
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Nguyenhuyen_AG
an hour ago
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-2025 answer extract??
bobthegod78   20
N 2 hours ago by BS2012
Source: 2025 AIME I P5

There are $8!= 40320$ eight-digit positive integers that use each of the digits 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 exactly once. Let N be the number of these integers that are divisible by $22$. Find the difference between $N$ and 2025.
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bobthegod78
Feb 7, 2025
BS2012
2 hours ago
2025 USA IMO
john0512   68
N 3 hours ago by NicoN9
Congratulations to all of you!!!!!!!

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Yesterday at 1:40 AM
NicoN9
3 hours ago
The Empty Set Exists
Archimedes15   37
N Apr 3, 2025 by lpieleanu
Source: 2021 AIME II P6
For any finite set $S$, let $|S|$ denote the number of elements in $S$. FInd the number of ordered pairs $(A,B)$ such that $A$ and $B$ are (not necessarily distinct) subsets of $\{1,2,3,4,5\}$ that satisfy
$$|A| \cdot |B| = |A \cap B| \cdot |A \cup B|$$
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Archimedes15
Mar 19, 2021
lpieleanu
Apr 3, 2025
The Empty Set Exists
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For any finite set $S$, let $|S|$ denote the number of elements in $S$. FInd the number of ordered pairs $(A,B)$ such that $A$ and $B$ are (not necessarily distinct) subsets of $\{1,2,3,4,5\}$ that satisfy
$$|A| \cdot |B| = |A \cap B| \cdot |A \cup B|$$
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I got 454.
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forgot to count the intersection, luckily found my error in the last ~10 minutes

Basically $A \subseteq B$ or $B \subseteq A$ then subtract $A=B$

$3^5 \cdot 2 - 2^5=454$
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I got $455$. Can someone please explain how to get $454$?
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$|A|+|B|-|A \cap B| = |A \cup B|$, so substituting gives

\begin{align*}
|A| \cdot |B| &= |A \cap B|(|A| + |B| - |A \cap B|)\\
|A||B| - |A \cap B||A| - |A \cap B||B| + |A \cap B| &= 0\\
(|A| - |A \cap B|)(|B| - |A \cap B|) &= 0.\\
\end{align*}
Therefore, we must have $|A| = |A \cap B|$ or $|B| = |A \cap B|$, so this implies $A \subseteq B$ or $B \subseteq A$.

Then do some more PIE.
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Casework on the value of $|A|, $ and realize that either $ B \subseteq A$ or $A \subseteq B$ :

$\binom{5}{0}2^5 + \binom{5}{1}2^4 + \binom{5}{2}2^3 + \binom{5}{3}2^2 + \binom{5}{4}2 + \binom{5}{5} - 2^5 = 211$ possibilities of $B$ where $|B| > |A|. $ Times that by $2$ then add in the possibilities where $|A| = |B|$ to get $422 + 2^5 = \boxed{454}. $
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By PIE, $|A| + |B| = |A\cap B| + |A\cup B|$, so $\{|A|, |B|\} = \{|A\cap B|, |A\cup B|\}$ (use Vieta). This implies either $A\subseteq B$ or $B\subseteq A$.

In the former case, each element of $\{1,2,3,4,5\}$ has three possibilities: in both $A$ and $B$, in $A$ but not $B$, or in neither $A$ nor $B$. This gives $3^5$ possibilities in that case. Analogously, $3^5$ possibilities in the second case.

Subtracting off the $2^5 = 32$ cases where $A = B$ gives a final answer of $2\cdot 3^5 - 2^5 = 454$.
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A lot of people I talked to seem to have missed the empty set.

Interestingly enough this appears to be one of the first AIME problems ever where non-empty was not specified.
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Another reading exercise on AIME.
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Darn so in the contest I thought this would be killed by this.
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I was kinda worried abt empty vs nonempty lol, I just assumed empty was ok thankfully
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Draw a Venn Diagram, and call $a$ the number of elements in $A$ but not $B$, $b$ the number of elements in $B$ but not $A$, and $c$ the number of elements $A$ and $B$. Then we get $(a+c)(b+c) = (a+c+b)c$ so $ab=0$.

If $a=0$, then each of the remaining numbers must be in $b$ or $c$ or neither, meaning $3^5$ ways.
If $b=0$, it is also $3^5$ ways.
If $a=b=0$, each number can either be in $c$ or not in $c$, so $2^5$.

So the answer is $2*3^5-2^5 = 486 - 32 = 454$.
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One way you can think about this is that $|A| + |B| = |A \cup B| + |A \cap B|$ all the time, and if $x_1x_2 = y_1y_2$ and $x_1 + x_2 = y_1 + y_2$ then $\{x_1,x_2\} = \{y_1,y_2\}$ so either $|A|$ or $|B|$ is equal to $|A \cap B|$ and then proceed as others said.
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Use PIE, factor with SFFT, and find that $A \subseteq B$ or the opposite. Then count.
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This was my problem. I'm surprised that people "missed" the empty set since (AFAIK) you need to do extra work to exclude it, assuming you have the nice solution.

In my head, since $|A|+|B| = |A\cap B| + |A \cup B|$, if the products are equal as well, then by Vieta formula it follows that $|A|$ and $|B|$ are roots of same polynomial as $|A \cap B|$ and $|A \cup B|$, hence the main claim.
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math31415926535
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UnicornPanda wrote:
I got $455$. Can someone please explain how to get $454$?

probably you forgot the empty set
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Neat
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eduD_looC
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math31415926535 wrote:
UnicornPanda wrote:
I got $455$. Can someone please explain how to get $454$?

probably you forgot the empty set

No. If @UnicornPanda forgot the empty set, the answer gotten would've been $453$.
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ilovepizza2020
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eduD_looC wrote:
math31415926535 wrote:
UnicornPanda wrote:
I got $455$. Can someone please explain how to get $454$?

probably you forgot the empty set

No. If @UnicornPanda forgot the empty set, the answer gotten would've been $453$.

They forgot to include the empty set
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I'm pretty late (just mocked this now) but the factorization instantly reminded me of JMC 10 #18 (https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c1465090h2420752p19921359) for some reason.

Chden saved my life again lol.
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doesnt everyone know the empty set exists?
what does the title mean
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ilovepizza2020
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PlaneGod wrote:
doesnt everyone know the empty set exists?
what does the title mean

Duuude most problems say to disregard the empty set but this one needs you to not disregard it.
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PlaneGod wrote:
doesnt everyone know the empty set exists?
what does the title mean

I don't know if you got the joke or not but basically the title says that since a lot of people missed the empty set.
It's kinda like saying "Complex solutions exist" if someone says that the sum of the real solutions of $x^2+4x+333=0$ is -4.
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I'm getting $391$
solution
Can someone please explain why $391$ is incorrect?
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franchester
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sugar_rush wrote:
I'm getting $391$
solution
Can someone please explain why $391$ is incorrect?

$A$ and $B$ dont have to be nonempty
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The worst solution.

Case 1: $A$ is empty.
Then this is always true, giving a total of $32$.

Case 2: $A$ has one element.
WLOG $A=\{1\}$.

Then if $B$ is not empty, then $1\in B$. Any such $B$ works. So there are $16$ ways.

If $b$ is empty, then there is $1$ way.

Total for this case is $17\cdot 5=85$.

Case 3: $A$ has $2$ elements.
WLOG $A=\{1,2\}$.

If $B$ contains both $1$ and $2$, then all such $B$ work, giving $8$.

If $B$ doesn't contain $1$ or $2$, then $B$ is empty, giving $1$.

if $B$ contains $1$ but not $2$, then $2|B|=|B|+1\implies |B|=1$. Thus, there is $1$ way.

If $B$ contains $2$ but not $1$, then there is $1$ way.

Total is $10\cdot 11=110$.

Case 4: $A$ has $3$ elements.
Then WLOG $A=\{1,2,3\}$.

If $|A\cup B|=0$, then $B$ is empty. $1$ way.

If $|A\cup B|=1$, then $3|B|=|B|+2\implies |B|=1$. $3$ ways.

If $|A\cup B|=2$, then $3|B|=2(|B|+1)\implies |B|=2$. $3$ ways.

If $|A\cup B|=3$, then there are $4$ total ways, all work.

Thus, total for this case is $11\cdot 10=110$.

Case 5: $|A|=4$.
WLOG $A=\{1,2,3,4\}$.

If $|A\cup B|=0$, then $B$ is empty. $1$ way.

If $|A\cup B|=1$, then $|B|=1$. $4$ ways.

If $|A\cup B|=2$, then $|B|=2$. $6$ ways.

If $|A\cup B|=3$, then $|B|=3$. $4$ ways.

If $|A\cup B|=4$, then there are $2$ ways.

So total for this case is $5\cdot 17=85$.

Case 6: $|A|=5$.
Then $A=\{1,2,3,4,5\}$.

Any subset for $B$ works, giving a total of $32$.


Answer is $2(32+85+110)=\boxed{454}$.
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megarnie
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Looks like I mixed up $\cup$ with $\cap$ in my previous solution.

We can check that either $A\subseteq B$ or $B\subseteq A$ and everything of this form works.

Case 1: $A\subseteq B$.
Then there are $2^5+5\cdot 2^4+10\cdot 2^3+10\cdot 2^2+5\cdot 2^1+1=(2+1)^5=243$ ways.

Case 2: $B\subseteq A$.
Then there are also $243$ ways.

Case 3: $A=B$.
Then there are $32$ ways.

So the answer is $243+243-32=\boxed{454}$.
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We use PIE: $|A\cup B| = |A| + |B| - |A\cap B|$. Hence
\[ |A|\cdot |B| = |A\cap B|\cdot (|A| + |B| - |A\cap B|).\]
Let $|A| = a$, $|B| = b$, and $|A\cap B| = i$. Then
\[ ab = ai +bi - i^2\]\[ a(b-i) = bi - i^2 = i(b-i).\]
Hence $i = b$ or $i = a$. The only way for this to happen is either if $A\subseteq B$ or $B\subseteq A$. WLOG, let $A\subseteq B$ (we will deal with some complications later). If $B$ has $j$ elements, there are $\binom{5}{j}$ ways to choose $B$. Then there are $2^j$ ways to choose $A$. The total number of ways is
\[ \sum_{j = 0}^{5}2^j\binom{5}{j} = 1 + 10 + 40 + 80 + 80 + 32 = 243.\]
Now, there should $2\cdot 243 = 486$ ways, but we overcounted the case $A = B$ once, which has $2^5 = 32$ ways of happening. The answer is $486 - 32 = \boxed{454}$.
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Archimedes15 wrote:
For any finite set $S$, let $|S|$ denote the number of elements in $S$. FInd the number of ordered pairs $(A,B)$ such that $A$ and $B$ are (not necessarily distinct) subsets of $\{1,2,3,4,5\}$ that satisfy
$$|A| \cdot |B| = |A \cap B| \cdot |A \cup B|$$

typo in the first word of the second sentence help I'm catching typoes everywhere I go more and more I think there's something wrong with me
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I bashed this problem. Got the correct answer 5 minutes before the end of the test (I did other problems first and came back to this one)
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Video Solution + review of set theory
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Realize that $A \subseteq B.$ Do a bit of casework to get $211.$ Multiply by $2$ because $(A, B) \neq (B, A).$ We've counted $A=B$ twice here because it doesn't replicate; subtract by the number of times once ($2^5$ for correction), and we're done.
Took me a while to catch everything but the first two sentences, but solve.
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The main insight is that either $A$ or $B$ is a subset of the other. How I found this was letting $|A \cup B| = |A| + |B| - |A \cap B|$. Then denoting $|A| = a$, $|B| = b$ and $|A \cap B| = c$ we have,
\begin{align*}
ab &= c(a+b-c)\\
ab &= ac + bc - c^2\\
a(b-c) + c(c - b)&= 0\\
(a-c)(b-c) &= 0
\end{align*}and hence either $a = c$, $b = c$ or $a = b = c$. Now its just a simple counting problem.

We have two cases.

First if $a = b$ then we must have $A = B$. This can be done in $\sum \binom{5}{i} = 32$ ways.

Then assume that they are not equal and WLOG $B$ is a subset of $A$. Then do casework on the size of $a$.

If $a = 0$ then $b = 0$, we've already counted this.

If $a = 1$ we have $1$ choice for $b$ adding $5$ to our count.

If $a = 2$ we have $2^2 - 1 = 3$ choices for $b$ giving $\binom{5}{2} \cdot 3 = 30$ to our count.

If $a = 3$ we have $2^3 - 1 = 7$ choices for $b$ giving $\binom{5}{3} \cdot 7 = 70$ to our count.

If $a = 4$ we have $2^4 - 1 = 15$ choices for $b$ giving $\binom{5}{4} \cdot 15= 75$ to our count.

Finally if $a = 5$ we have $2^5 - 1 = 31$ choices for $b$ giving $31$ to our count.

Summing these cases up and multiplying by $2$ we have $422$ in this case.

Then adding our final count is $422 + 32 = \boxed{454}$.
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Interesting that no one else has posted this, but I found the main claim in a slightly different way: after recalling $|A| + |B| = |{A \cup B}| + |{A \cap B}|$, because \[ |{A \cup B}| \geq |A|, |B| \geq |{A \cap B}| \]for inequality reasons we are forced to have $\{|A|, |B|\} = \{|{A \cup B}|, |{A \cap B}|\}$ meaning either $A \subseteq B$ or $B \subseteq A$.
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We will solve for the general case for subsets of $\{1, 2, \dots, n \}$ where $n$ is a positive integer.

Let $x = |A \cap B|, a = |A| - x, b = |B| - x$. The equation provided in the problem is equivalent to
$$(a + x)(b + x) = x(a + b + x) \implies ab = 0.$$Suppose $a = 0$. This implies that $(A \cap B) \subseteq A$. Observe that for every element in $\{1, 2, \dots, n \}$, it is either in $A$, the set $A$ when $(A \cap B)$ is removed, or in neither. Hence, we obtain $3^n$ possibilities. Similarly, $b = 0$ gives $3^n$. Now we subtract off the duplicates. If $a = b = 0$, $A = B$, so there are $2^n$ ways to choose the common subset. We obtain our final answer of $\boxed{2 \cdot 3^n - 2^n}$. (It can easily be checked that $n = 5$ yields $454$, the answer to the original problem.)
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$|A \cup B|=|A|+|B|-|A\cap B|$.
Using this and by manipulating the expression, we get that $|A|=|A \cap B|$ or$|B|=|A\cap B|$
For $|A|=|A \cap B|$, we get that $A \subseteq B$. So, number of pairs $=3^5$.
Similarly for the other part, there are $3^5$ pairs.
There are $2^5$ such pairs where $A=B$.
Hence, total number of ordered pairs $=2 \cdot 3^5 -2^5 = \boxed{454}$.
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Solution
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