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Source: ISI UGB 2025 P3
Suppose $f : [0,1] \longrightarrow \mathbb{R}$ is differentiable with $f(0) = 0$. If $|f'(x) | \leq f(x)$ for all $x \in [0,1]$, then show that $f(x) = 0$ for all $x$.
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Minimum value
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What is the minimum value of
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\frac{|a + b + c + d| \left( |a - b| |b - c| |c - d| + |b - a| |c - a| |d - a| \right)}{|a - b| |b - c| |c - d| |d - a|}
$$over all triples $a, b, c, d$ of distinct real numbers such that
$a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 3(ab + bc + cd + da).$

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Let \( f \) be a function which is continuous on \( [0,1] \) and differentiable on \( (0,1) \), with \( f(0) = f(1) = 0 \). Assume that there is some \( c \in (0,1) \) such that \( f(c) = 1 \). Prove that there exists some \( x_0 \in (0,1) \) such that \( |f'(x_0)| > 2 \).
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Let \( f \) be a function which is continuous on \( [0,1] \) and differentiable on \( (0,1) \), with \( f(0) = f(1) = 0 \). Assume that there is some \( c \in (0,1) \) such that \( f(c) = 1 \). Prove that there exists some \( x_0 \in (0,1) \) such that \( |f'(x_0)| > 2 \).
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Case 1: $c > 0.5$
Then, using Mean Value Theorem, there exist an $x_0$ such that $f'(x_0)=\frac{f(c)-f(0)}{c-0}=\frac{1-0}{c}=\frac{1}{c}>2 \Rightarrow |f'(x_0)|>2$.
Case 2: $c < 0.5$
That implies that $c-1 > -0.5$ then using Mean Value Theorem, there exist an $x_0$ such that $f'(x_0)=\frac{f(c)-f(1)}{c-1}=\frac{1-0}{c-1}=\frac{1}{c-1}<-2 \Rightarrow |f'(x_0)|>2$
Case 3: $c=0.5$
Here idk for \( |f'(x_0)| > 2 \)
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u left the case which i wanted the proof for.. :noo: :wallbash_red:
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To handle the $c=1/2$ case, suppose $f(1/2)=1$ and assume $|f'(x)|\le 2$ on the whole interval $(0,1)$. Then by the mean value theorem, there is some $x_0$ such that $$\frac{f(1/2)-f(0)}{1/2-0}=f'(x_0),$$so $f'(x_0)=2$. That by itself isn't a contradiction, but we can do something similar to get a contradiction. The intuitive idea is that since we're right on the "edge" of a contradiction, we have no room to move the graph of $f$. If $|f'|\le 2$ and $f(1/2)=1$, that forces $f(x)=2x$ on the interval $[0,1/2]$. Moving the graph up or down at any point makes the slope larger than $2$ somewhere. Similarly, $f(x)=2-2x$ on the interval $[1/2,1]$.

We first prove that $f(x)=2x$ for every $x\in [0,1/2]$. On any interval $[0,a]$ with $a\le 1/2$, we have $$\frac{f(a)-f(0)}{a-0}=f'(x_a)$$for some $x_a$, depending on $a$. Since we're assuming $f'$ is always bounded by $2$, this means that $\dfrac{f(a)}{a}\le 2,$ so $f(a)\le 2a$ for all $a\in[0,1/2]$.

This inequality can never be strict, either. If we had $f(a)<2a$, then we could use the mean value theorem on the interval $[a,1/2]$ to get \begin{align*}\frac{f(1/2)-f(a)}{1/2-a}&=f'(x_a)\\
\frac{1-f(a)}{1/2-a}&=f'(x_a).
\end{align*}But the left side is larger than $2$, and the right side is at most $2$, a contradiction.

The same reasoning forces $f(x)=2-2x$ on the interval $[1/2,1]$, so $$f(x)=\begin{cases} 2x,\, &0\le x\le 1/2\\ 2-2x, &1/2<x\le 1.\end{cases}$$However, this function is not differentiable at $1/2$, so we are done.
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Proof from MSE https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1752763/suppose-f0-f1-0-and-fx-0-1-show-that-there-is-rho-with-lve?noredirect=1
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as a novice, this qns was good . thanks @alphaamss and @ddot1
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\(c=\frac 12\):
\(\emph{Proof.}\) Assume towards a contradiction that \(\forall 0<\xi<1:\big|f'(\xi)\big|\le 2\).
LMVT on \(0<x<\frac 12\) and \(\frac 12\):
\[\usepackage{mathtools}
\tfrac {1-f(x)}{\frac 12-x}\le 2\xRightarrow{\hspace{40pt}}\left(\forall 0<x<\tfrac 12\right):f(x)\ \ge\ 2x\tag{1}\]LMVT on \(\frac 12\) and \(\frac 12<x<1\):
\[\usepackage{mathtools}
\tfrac {f(x)-1}{x-\frac 12}\ge -2\xRightarrow{\hspace{40pt}}\left(\forall \tfrac 12<x< 1\right):f(x)\ \ge\ 2-2x\tag{2}\]Differentiability at \(x=\frac 12\) implies \(f\equiv\begin{cases} 2x &0\le x\le 1/2\\ 2-2x &1/2<x\le 1\end{cases}\) is not possible.
Thus, using \((1)\) and \((2)\), reflecting about the line \(x=\frac 12\) if necessary, we may assume \(\exists 0<\alpha<\frac 12, \exists\eta>0:f(\alpha)=2\alpha+\eta\).
LMVT on \(0<x<\alpha\) and \(\alpha\):\[\usepackage{mathtools}
\tfrac {2\alpha+\eta-f(x)}{\alpha-x}\le 2\xRightarrow{\hspace{40pt}}\left(\forall 0<x<\alpha\right):f(x)\ \ge\ 2x+\eta\tag{3}\]\(\epsilon\big/\delta\) continuity at \(x=0\):\[(\forall \epsilon>0)(\exists\delta>0):0<x<\delta\xRightarrow{\hspace{40pt}}\big|f(x)\big|<\epsilon\tag{4} \]\((4)\) contradicts \((3)\) for \(0<\epsilon<\eta\).\(\usepackage{amsthm}
\qed\)
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thanks @MS_asdfgzxcvb :)
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Easy peasy....vai toone mujhe nehi bola.....ye le soln
$f$ is differentiable on $(0,1)$. For $c>0.5$ and $c<0.5$ you can hopefully do!!
For $c=0.5$ put the value of $c$ in the two equations,
$$f(x)=\begin{cases} 2x,\, &0\le x\le 1/2\\ 2-2x, &1/2<x\le 1.\end{cases}$$So clearly visible that not differentiable on $c=0.5$....
$LHD=2$ and $RHD=-2$
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Rohit-2006 wrote:
Easy peasy....vai toone mujhe nehi bola.....ye le soln
$f$ is differentiable on $(0,1)$. For $c>0.5$ and $c<0.5$ you can hopefully do!!
For $c=0.5$ put the value of $c$ in the two equations,
$$f(x)=\begin{cases} 2x,\, &0\le x\le 1/2\\ 2-2x, &1/2<x\le 1.\end{cases}$$So clearly visible that not differentiable on $c=0.5$....
$LHD=2$ and $RHD=-2$

orz rohit ka question kal wale UGb mock mein aya tha (u solved that romanain grade 11 problem orz)
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Rohit-2006 wrote:
Easy peasy....vai toone mujhe nehi bola.....ye le soln
$f$ is differentiable on $(0,1)$. For $c>0.5$ and $c<0.5$ you can hopefully do!!
For $c=0.5$ put the value of $c$ in the two equations,
$$f(x)=\begin{cases} 2x,\, &0\le x\le 1/2\\ 2-2x, &1/2<x\le 1.\end{cases}$$So clearly visible that not differentiable on $c=0.5$....
$LHD=2$ and $RHD=-2$

bro u only told to forget you :( :noo:
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