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k a My Retirement & New Leadership at AoPS
rrusczyk   1571
N Mar 26, 2025 by SmartGroot
I write today to announce my retirement as CEO from Art of Problem Solving. When I founded AoPS 22 years ago, I never imagined that we would reach so many students and families, or that we would find so many channels through which we discover, inspire, and train the great problem solvers of the next generation. I am very proud of all we have accomplished and I’m thankful for the many supporters who provided inspiration and encouragement along the way. I'm particularly grateful to all of the wonderful members of the AoPS Community!

I’m delighted to introduce our new leaders - Ben Kornell and Andrew Sutherland. Ben has extensive experience in education and edtech prior to joining AoPS as my successor as CEO, including starting like I did as a classroom teacher. He has a deep understanding of the value of our work because he’s an AoPS parent! Meanwhile, Andrew and I have common roots as founders of education companies; he launched Quizlet at age 15! His journey from founder to MIT to technology and product leader as our Chief Product Officer traces a pathway many of our students will follow in the years to come.

Thank you again for your support for Art of Problem Solving and we look forward to working with millions more wonderful problem solvers in the years to come.

And special thanks to all of the amazing AoPS team members who have helped build AoPS. We’ve come a long way from here:IMAGE
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rrusczyk
Mar 24, 2025
SmartGroot
Mar 26, 2025
k a March Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
jlacosta   0
Mar 2, 2025
March is the month for State MATHCOUNTS competitions! Kudos to everyone who participated in their local chapter competitions and best of luck to all going to State! Join us on March 11th for a Math Jam devoted to our favorite Chapter competition problems! Are you interested in training for MATHCOUNTS? Be sure to check out our AMC 8/MATHCOUNTS Basics and Advanced courses.

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Do you have plans this summer? There are so many options to fit your schedule and goals whether attending a summer camp or taking online classes, it can be a great break from the routine of the school year. Check out our summer courses at AoPS Online, or if you want a math or language arts class that doesn’t have homework, but is an enriching summer experience, our AoPS Virtual Campus summer camps may be just the ticket! We are expanding our locations for our AoPS Academies across the country with 15 locations so far and new campuses opening in Saratoga CA, Johns Creek GA, and the Upper West Side NY. Check out this page for summer camp information.

Be sure to mark your calendars for the following events:
[list][*]March 5th (Wednesday), 4:30pm PT/7:30pm ET, HCSSiM Math Jam 2025. Amber Verser, Assistant Director of the Hampshire College Summer Studies in Mathematics, will host an information session about HCSSiM, a summer program for high school students.
[*]March 6th (Thursday), 4:00pm PT/7:00pm ET, Free Webinar on Math Competitions from elementary through high school. Join us for an enlightening session that demystifies the world of math competitions and helps you make informed decisions about your contest journey.
[*]March 11th (Tuesday), 4:30pm PT/7:30pm ET, 2025 MATHCOUNTS Chapter Discussion MATH JAM. AoPS instructors will discuss some of their favorite problems from the MATHCOUNTS Chapter Competition. All are welcome!
[*]March 13th (Thursday), 4:00pm PT/7:00pm ET, Free Webinar about Summer Camps at the Virtual Campus. Transform your summer into an unforgettable learning adventure! From elementary through high school, we offer dynamic summer camps featuring topics in mathematics, language arts, and competition preparation - all designed to fit your schedule and ignite your passion for learning.[/list]
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
Want to help AoPS remain a valuable Olympiad resource? Help us add contests to AoPS's Contest Collections.

Find instructions and a list of contests to add here: https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c40244h1064480_contests_to_add
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dcouchman
Sep 9, 2019
v_Enhance
Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


Everything definitely out of range of common sense will be locked or deleted (exept for new users having less than about 42 posts, they are newbies and need/get some time to learn).

The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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ZetaX
Feb 27, 2007
NoDealsHere
May 4, 2019
Practice AMC 12A
freddyfazbear   37
N 10 minutes ago by mathprodigy2011
Practice AMC 12A

1. Find the sum of the infinite geometric series 1/2 + 7/36 + 49/648 + …
A - 18/11, B - 9/22, C - 9/11, D - 18/7, E - 9/14

2. What is the first digit after the decimal point in the square root of 420?
A - 1, B - 2, C - 3, D - 4, E - 5

3. Two circles with radiuses 47 and 96 intersect at two points A and B. Let P be the point 82% of the way from A to B. A line is drawn through P that intersects both circles twice. Let the four intersection points, from left to right be W, X, Y, and Z. Find (PW/PX)*(PY/PZ).
A - 50/5863, B - 47/96, C - 1, D - 96/47, E - 5863/50

4. What is the largest positive integer that cannot be expressed in the form 6a + 9b + 4c + 20d, where a, b, c, and d are positive integers?
A - 29, B - 38, C - 43, D - 76, E - 82

5. What is the absolute difference of the probabilities of getting at least 6/10 on a 10-question true or false test and at least 3/5 on a 5-question true or false test?
A - 63/1024, B - 63/512, C - 63/256, D - 63/128, E - 0

6. How many arrangements of the letters in the word “ginger” are there such that the two vowels have an even number of letters (remember 0 is even) between them (including the original “ginger”)?
A - 72, B - 108, C - 144, D - 216, E - 432

7. After opening his final exam, Jason does not know how to solve a single question. So he decides to pull out his phone and search up the answers. Doing this, Jason has a success rate of anywhere from 94-100% for any given question he uses his phone on. However, if the teacher sees his phone at any point during the test, then Jason gets a 0.5 multiplier on his final test score, as well as he must finish the rest of the test questions without his phone. (Assume Jason uses his phone on every question he does until he finishes the test or gets caught.) Every question is a 5-choice multiple choice question. Jason has a 90% chance of not being caught with his phone. What is the expected value of Jason’s test score, rounded to the nearest tenth of a percent?
A - 89.9%, B - 90.0%, C - 90.1%, D - 90.2%, E - 90.3%

8. A criminal is caught by a police officer. Due to a lack of cooperation, the officer calls in a second officer so they can start the arrest smoothly. Officer 1 takes 26:18 to arrest a criminal, and officer 2 takes 13:09 to arrest a criminal. With these two police officers working together, how long should the arrest take?
A - 4:23, B - 5:26, C - 8:46, D - 17:32, E - 19:44

9. Statistics show that people in Memphis who eat at KFC n days a week have a (1/10)(n+2) chance of liking kool-aid, and the number of people who eat at KFC n days a week is directly proportional to 8 - n (Note that n can only be an integer from 0 to 7, inclusive). A random person in Memphis is selected. Find the probability that they like kool-aid.
A - 13/30, B - 17/30, C - 19/30, D - 23/30, E - 29/30

10 (Main). PM me for problem (I copied over this problem from the 10A but just found out a “sheriff” removed it for some reason so I don’t want to take any risks)
A - 51, B - 52, C - 53, D - 54, E - 55

10 (Alternate). Suppose that on the coordinate grid, the x-axis represents economic freedom, and the y-axis represents social freedom, where -1 <= x, y <= 1 and a higher number for either coordinate represents more freedom along that particular axis. Accordingly, the points (0, 0), (1, 1), (-1, 1), (-1, -1), and (1, -1) represent democracy, anarchy, socialism, communism, and fascism, respectively. A country is classified as whichever point it is closest to. Suppose a theoretical new country is selected by picking a random point within the square bounded by anarchy, socialism, communism, and fascism as its vertices. What is the probability that it is fascist?
A - 1 - (1/4)pi, B - 1/5, C - (1/16)pi, D - 1/4, E - 1/8

11. Two congruent towers stand near each other. Both take the shape of a right rectangular prism. A plane that cuts both towers into two pieces passes through the vertical axes of symmetry of both towers and does not cross the floor or roof of either tower. Let the point that the plane crosses the axis of symmetry of the first tower be A, and the point that the plane crosses the axis of symmetry of the second tower be B. A is 81% of the way from the floor to the roof of the first tower, and B is 69% of the way from the floor to the roof of the second tower. What percent of the total mass of both towers combined is above the plane?
A - 19%, B - 25%, C - 50%, D - 75%, E - 81%

12. On an analog clock, the minute hand makes one full revolution every hour, and the hour hand makes one full revolution every 12 hours. Both hands move at a constant rate. During which of the following time periods does the minute hand pass the hour hand?
A - 7:35 - 7:36, B - 7:36 - 7:37, C - 7:37 - 7:38, D - 7:38 - 7:39, E - 7:39 - 7:40

13. How many axes of symmetry does the graph of (x^2)(y^2) = 69 have?
A - 2, B - 3, C - 4, D - 5, E - 6

14. Let f(n) be the sum of the positive integer divisors of n. Find the sum of the digits of the smallest odd positive integer n such that f(n) is greater than 2n.
A - 15, B - 18, C - 21, D - 24, E - 27

15. A basketball has a diameter of 9 inches, and the hoop has a diameter of 18 inches. Peter decides to pick up the basketball and make a throw. Given that Peter has a 1/4 chance of accidentally hitting the backboard and missing the shot, but if he doesn’t, he is guaranteed that the frontmost point of the basketball will be within 18 inches of the center of the hoop at the moment when a great circle of the basketball crosses the plane containing the rim. No part of the ball will extend behind the backboard at any point during the throw, and the rim is attached directly to the backboard. What is the probability that Peter makes a green FN?
A - 3/128, B - 3/64, C - 3/32, D - 3/16, E - 3/8

16. Martin decides to rob 6 packages of Kool-Aid from a store. At the store, they have 5 packages each of 5 different flavors of Kool-Aid. How many different combinations of Kool-Aid could Martin rob?
A - 180, B - 185, C - 195, D - 205, E - 210

17. Find the area of a cyclic quadrilateral with side lengths 6, 9, 4, and 2, rounded to the nearest integer.
A - 16, B - 19, C - 22, D - 25, E - 28

18. Find the slope of the line tangent to the graph of y = x^2 + x + 1 at the point (2, 7).
A - 2, B - 3, C - 4, D - 5, E - 6

19. Suppose that the strength of a protest is measured in “effectiveness points”. Malcolm gathers 2048 people for a protest. During the first hour of the protest, all 2048 people protest with an effectiveness of 1 point per person. At the start of each hour of the protest after the first, half of the protestors will leave, but the ones remaining will gain one effectiveness point per person. For example, that means that during the second hour, there will be 1024 people protesting at 2 effectiveness points each, during the third hour, there will be 512 people protesting at 3 effectiveness points each, and so on. The protest will conclude at the end of the twelfth hour. After the protest is over, how many effectiveness points did it earn in total?
A - 8142, B - 8155, C - 8162, D - 8169, E - 8178

20. Find the sum of all positive integers n greater than 1 and less than 16 such that (n-1)! + 1 is divisible by n.
A - 41, B - 44, C - 47, D - 50, E - 53

21. Scientific research suggests that Stokely Carmichael had an IQ of 30. Given that IQ ranges from 1 to 200, inclusive, goes in integer increments, and the chance of having an IQ of n is proportional to n if n <= 100 and to 201 - n if n >= 101, what is the sum of the numerator and denominator of the probability that a random person is smarter than Stokely Carmichael, when expressed as a common fraction in lowest terms?
A - 1927, B - 2020, C - 2025, D - 3947, E - 3952

22. In Alabama, Jim Crow laws apply to anyone who has any positive amount of Jim Crow ancestry, no matter how small the fraction, as long as it is greater than zero. In a small town in Alabama, there were initially 9 Non-Jim Crows and 3 Jim Crows. Denote this group to be the first generation. Then those 12 people would randomly get into 6 pairs and reproduce, making the second generation, consisting of 6 people. Then the process repeats for the second generation, where they get into 3 pairs. Of the 3 people in the third generation, what is the probability that exactly one of them is Non-Jim Crow?
A - 8/27, B - 1/3, C - 52/135, D - 11/27, E - 58/135

23. Goodman, Chaney, and Schwerner each start at the point (0, 0). Assume the coordinate axes are in miles. At t = 0, Goodman starts walking along the x-axis in the positive x direction at 0.6 miles per hour, Chaney starts walking along the y-axis in the positive y direction at 0.8 miles per hour, and Schwerner starts walking along the x-axis in the negative x direction at 0.4 miles per hour. However, a clan that does not like them patrols the circumference of the circle x^2 + y^2 = 1. Three knights of the clan, equally spaced apart on the circumference of the circle, walk counterclockwise along its circumference and make one revolution every hour. At t = 0, one of the knights of the clan is at (1, 0). Any of Goodman, Chaney, and Schwerner will be caught by the clan if they walk within 50 meters of one of their 3 knights. How many of the three will be caught by the clan?
A - 0, B - 1, C - 2, D - 3, E - Not enough info to determine

24.
A list of 9 positive integers consists of 100, 112, 122, 142, 152, and 160, as well as a, b, and c, with a <= b <= c. The range of the list is 70, both the mean and median are multiples of 10, and the list has a unique mode. How many ordered triples (a, b, c) are possible?
A - 1, B - 2, C - 3, D - 4, E - 5

25. What is the integer closest to the value of tan(83)? (The 83 is in degrees)
A - 2, B - 3, C - 4, D - 6, E - 8
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freddyfazbear
Yesterday at 6:35 AM
mathprodigy2011
10 minutes ago
USA Canada math camp
Bread10   40
N 10 minutes ago by cowstalker
How difficult is it to get into USA Canada math camp? What should be expected from an accepted applicant in terms of the qualifying quiz, essays and other awards or math context?
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Bread10
Mar 2, 2025
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10 minutes ago
USAMO/USAJMO Swag?!
AoPSuser412   2
N 10 minutes ago by Schintalpati
I wondered if those who qualified got an email from MAA and Citadel Securities that they'd be sending out shirts. I filled out the form before the deadline but haven't received the shirt or any confirmation that it is being sent. Does anybody have theirs yet?
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AoPSuser412
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AMC 10/AIME Study Forum
PatTheKing806   75
N 22 minutes ago by Soupboy0
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Me (PatTheKing806) and EaZ_Shadow have created a AMC 10/AIME Study Forum! Hopefully, this forum wont die quickly. To signup, do /join or \join.

Click here to join! (or do some pushups) :P

People should join this forum if they are wanting to do well on the AMC 10 next year, trying get into AIME, or loves math!
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PatTheKing806
Thursday at 11:34 PM
Soupboy0
22 minutes ago
A lot of numbers and statements
nAalniaOMliO   2
N an hour ago by nAalniaOMIiO
Source: Belarusian National Olympiad 2025
101 numbers are written in a circle. Near the first number the statement "This number is bigger than the next one" is written, near the second "This number is bigger that the next two" and etc, near the 100th "This number is bigger than the next 100 numbers".
What is the maximum possible amount of the statements that can be true?
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nAalniaOMliO
Yesterday at 8:20 PM
nAalniaOMIiO
an hour ago
USAMO 1981 #2
Mrdavid445   9
N an hour ago by Marcus_Zhang
Every pair of communities in a county are linked directly by one mode of transportation; bus, train, or airplane. All three methods of transportation are used in the county with no community being serviced by all three modes and no three communities being linked pairwise by the same mode. Determine the largest number of communities in this county.
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Mrdavid445
Jul 26, 2011
Marcus_Zhang
an hour ago
Monkeys have bananas
nAalniaOMliO   2
N an hour ago by nAalniaOMIiO
Source: Belarusian National Olympiad 2025
Ten monkeys have 60 bananas. Each monkey has at least one banana and any two monkeys have different amounts of bananas.
Prove that any six monkeys can distribute their bananas between others such that all 4 remaining monkeys have the same amount of bananas.
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nAalniaOMliO
Yesterday at 8:20 PM
nAalniaOMIiO
an hour ago
A number theory problem from the British Math Olympiad
Rainbow1971   12
N 2 hours ago by ektorasmiliotis
Source: British Math Olympiad, 2006/2007, round 1, problem 6
I am a little surprised to find that I am (so far) unable to solve this little problem:

[quote]Let $n$ be an integer. Show that, if $2 + 2 \sqrt{1+12n^2}$ is an integer, then it is a perfect square.[/quote]

I set $k := \sqrt{1+12n^2}$. If $2 + 2 \sqrt{1+12n^2}$ is an integer, then $k (=\sqrt{1+12n^2})$ is at least rational, so that $1 + 12n^2$ must be a perfect square then. Using Conway's topograph method, I have found out that the smallest non-negative pairs $(n, k)$ for which this happens are $(0,1), (2,7), (28,97)$ and $(390, 1351)$, and that, for every such pair $(n,k)$, the "next" such pair can be calculated as
$$
\begin{bmatrix}
7 & 2 \\
24 & 7 
\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}
n \\
k 
\end{bmatrix}
.$$The eigenvalues of that matrix are irrational, however, so that any calculation which uses powers of that matrix is a little cumbersome. There must be an easier way, but I cannot find it. Can you?

Thank you.




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Rainbow1971
Yesterday at 8:39 PM
ektorasmiliotis
2 hours ago
A number theory about divisors which no one fully solved at the contest
nAalniaOMliO   22
N 2 hours ago by nAalniaOMliO
Source: Belarusian national olympiad 2024
Let's call a pair of positive integers $(k,n)$ interesting if $n$ is composite and for every divisor $d<n$ of $n$ at least one of $d-k$ and $d+k$ is also a divisor of $n$
Find the number of interesting pairs $(k,n)$ with $k \leq 100$
M. Karpuk
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nAalniaOMliO
Jul 24, 2024
nAalniaOMliO
2 hours ago
D1018 : Can you do that ?
Dattier   1
N 2 hours ago by Dattier
Source: les dattes à Dattier
We can find $A,B,C$, such that $\gcd(A,B)=\gcd(C,A)=\gcd(A,2)=1$ and $$\forall n \in \mathbb N^*, (C^n \times B \mod A) \mod 2=0 $$.

For example :

$C=20$
$A=47650065401584409637777147310342834508082136874940478469495402430677786194142956609253842997905945723173497630499054266092849839$

$B=238877301561986449355077953728734922992395532218802882582141073061059783672634737309722816649187007910722185635031285098751698$

Can you find $A,B,C$ such that $A>3$ is prime, $C,B \in (\mathbb Z/A\mathbb Z)^*$ with $o(C)=(A-1)/2$ and $$\forall n \in \mathbb N^*, (C^n \times B \mod A) \mod 2=0 $$?
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9 MOP Cutoff Via USAJMO
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N Mar 27, 2025 by Alex-131
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I think it’ll be 36 because there will be like 10 people with exactly 35.
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does 27 make honors
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I think it'll be 35 because I really need pi271828 to STOP FREAKING WORRYING ABOUT MOP CUTOFFS
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I think it'll be 35 because I really need pi271828 to STOP FREAKING WORRYING ABOUT MOP CUTOFFS

dont we all
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mathnerd_101 wrote:
I think it'll be 35 because I really need pi271828 to STOP FREAKING WORRYING ABOUT MOP CUTOFFS

^^^ if you say above 35 and he sends one more fricking message in the gc crashing out im going to be mad
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akliu wrote:
mathnerd_101 wrote:
I think it'll be 35 because I really need pi271828 to STOP FREAKING WORRYING ABOUT MOP CUTOFFS

^^^ if you say above 35 and he sends one more fricking message in the gc crashing out im going to be mad

excuse me kind sir, but may i be admitted into this groupchat?
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Sincerely,

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Yeah and this is why you don't show private things in public hands, way to go!
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Pengu14 wrote:
I think it’ll be 36 because there will be like 10 people with exactly 35.

name 12 people with a score strictly greater than 35? (also remember docks exist)
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plang2008 wrote:
Pengu14 wrote:
I think it’ll be 36 because there will be like 10 people with exactly 35.

name 12 people with a score strictly greater than 35? (also remember docks exist)

there are 11 (3 claim to be inelgible) on here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GnCi5OIJVg0SGh67qDcO3znLINJarUebjXQ7TRaJkWk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

and not that many people filled it out
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neeyakkid23 wrote:
Yeah and this is why you don't show private things in public hands, way to go!

Please come up with a comprehensible thought before speaking.

Sincerely,

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Yeah and this is why you don't show private things in public hands, way to go!

who are you and what does this even mean
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neeyakkid23 wrote:
Yeah and this is why you don't show private things in public hands, way to go!

who are you and what does this even mean

hello akliu

do not disrespect the orz neeyakkid23

Sincerely,

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akliu wrote:
neeyakkid23 wrote:
Yeah and this is why you don't show private things in public hands, way to go!

who are you and what does this even mean

hello akliu

do not disrespect the orz neeyakkid23

Sincerely,

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hellohannah wrote:
plang2008 wrote:
Pengu14 wrote:
I think it’ll be 36 because there will be like 10 people with exactly 35.

name 12 people with a score strictly greater than 35? (also remember docks exist)

there are 11 (3 claim to be inelgible) on here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GnCi5OIJVg0SGh67qDcO3znLINJarUebjXQ7TRaJkWk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

and not that many people filled it out

people can lie
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hellohannah wrote:
plang2008 wrote:
Pengu14 wrote:
I think it’ll be 36 because there will be like 10 people with exactly 35.

name 12 people with a score strictly greater than 35? (also remember docks exist)

there are 11 (3 claim to be inelgible) on here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GnCi5OIJVg0SGh67qDcO3znLINJarUebjXQ7TRaJkWk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

and not that many people filled it out

so 5
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11 - 3 = 8
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11 - 3 = 8

I think dotted is referring to in the last two years at most like 60% of people estimated their scores correctly, and 8*.6 ~ 5.
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sus doesn't that imply 8x0.4 -> 3
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people can lie

yeah, I don't believe 4 people got full score.
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nsking_1209 wrote:
people can lie

i think its unlikely that people are lying, it's more likely that theyre overpredicting (they believe the score they put, but it's not accurate)

i do agree that people's score are overpredicted. some of the claimed perfect scores are from younger contestants, who may not be as familiar with what counts as a 7.
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nsking_1209 wrote:
people can lie

i think its unlikely that people are lying, it's more likely that theyre overpredicting (they believe the score they put, but it's not accurate)

i do agree that people's score are overpredicted. some of the claimed perfect scores are from younger contestants, who may not be as familiar with what counts as a 7.

Real. Some people who are in 8th grade who took JMO in the same place I did claims they got full marks for j6 even though they wrote a proof that would earn only like 2 points max.
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How can you be eligible for USAJMO but not for MOP?
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How can you be eligible for USAJMO but not for MOP?

what???
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Pomansq wrote:
How can you be eligible for USAJMO but not for MOP?

what???

Some people in the spreadsheet claim that they are not eligible for MOP. How is that possible?
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hashbrown2009 wrote:
Pomansq wrote:
How can you be eligible for USAJMO but not for MOP?

what???

Some people in the spreadsheet claim that they are not eligible for MOP. How is that possible?

First of all:
1. What spreadsheet dude
2. Only top 12 of USAJMO make MOP (red)
3. I'm pretty sure you qualified for USAJMO so how do u not know this
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Pomansq wrote:
How can you be eligible for USAJMO but not for MOP?

In previous years there's been a rule that you have to be at least 14 to go MOP. MOP is at a new location and has a new director this year, so this rule might change, but people still say inelgible if they will not be 14 by the start of MOP.
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hellohannah wrote:
plang2008 wrote:
Pengu14 wrote:
I think it’ll be 36 because there will be like 10 people with exactly 35.

name 12 people with a score strictly greater than 35? (also remember docks exist)

there are 11 (3 claim to be inelgible) on here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GnCi5OIJVg0SGh67qDcO3znLINJarUebjXQ7TRaJkWk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

and not that many people filled it out

This spreadsheet. Some people said they got 42 on JMO but not eligible for mop. I don’t think you understand my question.
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Pomansq wrote:
How can you be eligible for USAJMO but not for MOP?

In previous years there's been a rule that you have to be at least 14 to go MOP. MOP is at a new location and has a new director this year, so this rule might change, but people still say inelgible if they will not be 14 by the start of MOP.

Ok that makes sense but how come so many high scorers are below 14…?
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Apologies for the confusion. I didn't realize you were talking about that spreadsheet.
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Pomansq wrote:
hellohannah wrote:
Pomansq wrote:
How can you be eligible for USAJMO but not for MOP?

In previous years there's been a rule that you have to be at least 14 to go MOP. MOP is at a new location and has a new director this year, so this rule might change, but people still say inelgible if they will not be 14 by the start of MOP.

Ok that makes sense but how come so many high scorers are below 14…?

uh i think theres also a canadian who claimed to not be elgible (i dont personally know the rules about canadians getting mop invites). I'm guessing the high scores mostly being from young people is due to the following reasons, but im not sure
1. younger people not being familiar with rubrics/not knowing what a "solve" is, leading them to predict falsely
2. younger people being more open about scores
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akliu wrote:
neeyakkid23 wrote:
Yeah and this is why you don't show private things in public hands, way to go!

who are you and what does this even mean

hello akliu,

do not disrespect the orz neeyakkid23

Sincerely,

The
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mathnerd_101 wrote:
neeyakkid23 wrote:
Yeah and this is why you don't show private things in public hands, way to go!

Please come up with a comprehensible thought before speaking.

Sincerely,

The GC

hello mathnerd_101,

@neeyakkid23 is a comprehensible person with more than comprehensible thoughts. Do not disrespect orz neeyakkid23

Sincerely,
The GC
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