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Find the measure of DF and FB
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It is given that rectangle \(ABCD\) is inscribed in a circle. Let \(E\) be a point on the line segment \(AD\) such that \(DE=DC=6\), and \(EA=2\). Let the extension of the line segment \(CE\) intersects the circumcircle of \(ABCD\) at point \(F\), hence find the lengths of line segments \(DF\) and \(FB\).
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9 Prodigy AoPS or Khanacadamy
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N Today at 5:28 AM by LuminousWolverine
Hey everyone just was wondering what everybody prefers? Try not to fight so this doesn't get locked!
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I've been doing Geometry 1 on Khan academy in summer break because I'm taking that class next year in 8th grade.
I've gotten this question wrong at least 6 times now. If she fills 3/4 the height of the cone, then the height would be 7.5. I wanted to know how that should affect the diameter of the new cone. Wouldn't it just be 3/4 of the original diameter which is 6? Then when I go to solve it, I did 6^2(pi) for base area, then multiplied by 7.5 (height), and then divided by 3 because it's a cone. That gave me around 282.74333882308, and rounded to the nearest cubic centimeter, it is 283. Khan Academy says I am wrong. Can someone please explain to me what my error is? Thanks!

See the attachment for the question
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I haven't done khan academy in so long but today I had to learn law of sines. I wish khan academy taught competition math because their format, and self paced learning seems a bit better than aops' plus sal's videos for each topic are so good
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something Putnam something
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N Apr 7, 2016 by Konigsberg
Oh, so that happened. I did not go in with much preparation, much dedication, or any sort of goal, and I got a terrible/hilarious distribution of solves (guessing in the comments is welcome, will respond with Hamming distance, please don't spoil if you already know). No money :(

That's really all I feel like bothering to say about the matter. I'm currently reading Sipser's Introduction to Theory of Computation so that I can attempt to take a grad class that I am, by any reasonable standard, totally unqualified for. I don't think personally competing in math contests will ever be a high priority for me again.
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Is there a point in me continuing AoPS?
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N Apr 17, 2025 by ab456
Okay so for context, I am in 8th grade and I'm bad at math, well at least on the competitive level like AMC and stuff. When I was in 7th grade I did some practice AMC8 tests and got like 15-17.

I've just been recently wondering if there is a point in me continuing AoPS. It's not like I'm ever really going to be competitive at math at this rate, and I can't exactly devote more time to it because I have too many other activities I have to do. And since I'm going into 9th grade next year, I have to start taking the AMC10 to be able to go into further math competitions like the AIME. Plus, my school system doesn't do anything related to a math team (I live in Alabama).

So I'm not sure if I should continue learning math from AoPS, because I feel like I could just devote the 12-15 hours I spend on math each week to something else that I am actually good at. The only thing that is sort of stopping me is how much I've already invested into AoPS. I've done Beast Academy, pre-algebra through int algebra. intro c&p, into geo, intro number theory, amc8 and mathcounts.

To be honest, I just don't think I'm talented or even wanting to spend like 20+ hours a week on math just to be able to qualify for these types of competitions. I know that it can be good as an extracurricular and all, but I don't know if it's worth it to grind math. Because in school I do fine, I have like 100 in math, so it's not like I need extra tutoring.
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Okay so for context, I am in 8th grade and I'm bad at math, well at least on the competitive level like AMC and stuff. When I was in 7th grade I did some practice AMC8 tests and got like 15-17.

I've just been recently wondering if there is a point in me continuing AoPS. It's not like I'm ever really going to be competitive at math at this rate, and I can't exactly devote more time to it because I have too many other activities I have to do. And since I'm going into 9th grade next year, I have to start taking the AMC10 to be able to go into further math competitions like the AIME. Plus, my school system doesn't do anything related to a math team (I live in Alabama).

So I'm not sure if I should continue learning math from AoPS, because I feel like I could just devote the 12-15 hours I spend on math each week to something else that I am actually good at. The only thing that is sort of stopping me is how much I've already invested into AoPS. I've done Beast Academy, pre-algebra through int algebra. intro c&p, into geo, intro number theory, amc8 and mathcounts.

To be honest, I just don't think I'm talented or even wanting to spend like 20+ hours a week on math just to be able to qualify for these types of competitions. I know that it can be good as an extracurricular and all, but I don't know if it's worth it to grind math. Because in school I do fine, I have like 100 in math, so it's not like I need extra tutoring.
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do you actually enjoy doing math, to start with?
if so, nothing should hold you back from improving and becoming better at it. yeah maybe u arent that good rn, but if its your passion pursue it all the way, your scores right now have no input on what you could become. let that be the only thing u see. then you will see exponential improvement and much much better scores, but only if ur passionate.

only do what you love and are passionate about.
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uhhh. I mean I don't dislike it. It's not my favorite activity to do, and like 50% it feels like a chore. but sometimes I like it. I'd rather do it than not, but I don't have the drive to succeed in it yk what I mean?
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julll55 wrote:
Okay so for context, I am in 8th grade and I'm bad at math, well at least on the competitive level like AMC and stuff. When I was in 7th grade I did some practice AMC8 tests and got like 15-17.

I've just been recently wondering if there is a point in me continuing AoPS. It's not like I'm ever really going to be competitive at math at this rate, and I can't exactly devote more time to it because I have too many other activities I have to do. And since I'm going into 9th grade next year, I have to start taking the AMC10 to be able to go into further math competitions like the AIME. Plus, my school system doesn't do anything related to a math team (I live in Alabama).

So I'm not sure if I should continue learning math from AoPS, because I feel like I could just devote the 12-15 hours I spend on math each week to something else that I am actually good at. The only thing that is sort of stopping me is how much I've already invested into AoPS. I've done Beast Academy, pre-algebra through int algebra. intro c&p, into geo, intro number theory, amc8 and mathcounts.

To be honest, I just don't think I'm talented or even wanting to spend like 20+ hours a week on math just to be able to qualify for these types of competitions. I know that it can be good as an extracurricular and all, but I don't know if it's worth it to grind math. Because in school I do fine, I have like 100 in math, so it's not like I need extra tutoring.

I agree with this, I often find math unmotivating because I just don't see the practical use of learning all of these formulas and useless concepts. I love doing math, but sometimes I question what I am putting all of this work in for.
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Jaxman8 wrote:
julll55 wrote:
Okay so for context, I am in 8th grade and I'm bad at math, well at least on the competitive level like AMC and stuff. When I was in 7th grade I did some practice AMC8 tests and got like 15-17.

I've just been recently wondering if there is a point in me continuing AoPS. It's not like I'm ever really going to be competitive at math at this rate, and I can't exactly devote more time to it because I have too many other activities I have to do. And since I'm going into 9th grade next year, I have to start taking the AMC10 to be able to go into further math competitions like the AIME. Plus, my school system doesn't do anything related to a math team (I live in Alabama).

So I'm not sure if I should continue learning math from AoPS, because I feel like I could just devote the 12-15 hours I spend on math each week to something else that I am actually good at. The only thing that is sort of stopping me is how much I've already invested into AoPS. I've done Beast Academy, pre-algebra through int algebra. intro c&p, into geo, intro number theory, amc8 and mathcounts.

To be honest, I just don't think I'm talented or even wanting to spend like 20+ hours a week on math just to be able to qualify for these types of competitions. I know that it can be good as an extracurricular and all, but I don't know if it's worth it to grind math. Because in school I do fine, I have like 100 in math, so it's not like I need extra tutoring.

I agree with this, I often find math unmotivating because I just don't see the practical use of learning all of these formulas and useless concepts. I love doing math, but sometimes I question what I am putting all of this work in for.

This is so real. Like I'm not planning on doing anything related to high level mathematics for my career. I guess winning competitions and stuff could be helpful for college applications? But it's improbable that I do anything of that level. It might help with higher level maths in high school like calc bc? Maybe the time I spend studying now will take away from time then but still I just don't think it's worth it.
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I feel the same way that I won't get a job in math but the reason I do math is the fun of it, the connections you make, the friends you make on the way is the purpose of math. I do it for the amount of relationships and the amount of new people you can meet. I do math also because I enjoy it unlike other subjects, math is an on unique subject that is the only one that you can use to think from different perpsectives. I would say that if you want to do math then do it for the fun of it. If you feel like it is boring or you are getting pushed then don't do it. I started math math competiiton jounrey since my first competition and the amount of friends and learning that I had there made myself motivated to keep on going and achieving new mile stones in the Math competition category.
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I feel the same way that I won't get a job in math but the reason I do math is the fun of it, the connections you make, the friends you make on the way is the purpose of math. I do it for the amount of relationships and the amount of new people you can meet. I do math also because I enjoy it unlike other subjects, math is an on unique subject that is the only one that you can use to think from different perpsectives. I would say that if you want to do math then do it for the fun of it. If you feel like it is boring or you are getting pushed then don't do it. I started math math competiiton jounrey since my first competition and the amount of friends and learning that I had there made myself motivated to keep on going and achieving new mile stones in the Math competition category.

See, none of my friends do math. My school isn’t that competitive in any academic competitions, and most of my friends are friends through extracurriculars like sports. I think I’ll just continue learning because it keeps my brain working but I don’t think I’m going to put in all of my effort. But that also feels unhealthy so idk.
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I do science Olympiad and math. Can tell you math will definitely help you
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sadas123 wrote:
I feel the same way that I won't get a job in math but the reason I do math is the fun of it, the connections you make, the friends you make on the way is the purpose of math. I do it for the amount of relationships and the amount of new people you can meet. I do math also because I enjoy it unlike other subjects, math is an on unique subject that is the only one that you can use to think from different perpsectives. I would say that if you want to do math then do it for the fun of it. If you feel like it is boring or you are getting pushed then don't do it. I started math math competiiton jounrey since my first competition and the amount of friends and learning that I had there made myself motivated to keep on going and achieving new mile stones in the Math competition category.

See, none of my friends do math. My school isn’t that competitive in any academic competitions, and most of my friends are friends through extracurriculars like sports. I think I’ll just continue learning because it keeps my brain working but I don’t think I’m going to put in all of my effort. But that also feels unhealthy so idk.

do you want to continue? If so, continue. If not, quit. Listen to your "heart".
When you don't want to continue it and you force yourself to do it, you end up very unhappy. (duh) :stretcher:
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Me in 6th grade: 15 in amc8 (so pretty average)

Me in 7th grade: 11 in amc8 (so really dumb)

*grinds after hearing that score*

Me in 8th grade: 20 in amc8 (well, the test was easy...but my parents expected a 25) -- 81 in amc10a

Me this year (9th): 130.5 in amc10a (that's because the test was NT-biased; MOCK), 93 in amc12a, aime

OFFICIAL amc10b = 114 which is not bad but also not exceptional (sorry about the .5 lol I was caught up in the amount of .5s I mocked in the past)

Moral of the story: anything can happen if you grind enough
(100th post!!!)
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Me in 6th grade: 15 in amc8 (so pretty average)

Me in 7th grade: 11 in amc8 (so really dumb)

*grinds after hearing that score*

Me in 8th grade: 20 in amc8 (well, the test was easy...but my parents expected a 25) -- 81 in amc10a

Me this year (9th): 130.5 in amc10a (that's because the test was NT-biased; MOCK), 93 in amc12a, aime

OFFICIAL amc10b = 114.5 which is not bad but also not exceptional

Moral of the story: anything can happen if you grind enough
(100th post!!!)

yup just keep on trying and the feeling of winning and the achievements that you get will already make you smile :D
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Math is kinda like whatever sport you're doing. If you like doing it, you will feel the urge to be better competitively but you will stop when you get tired. Recommend reading this: https://terrytao.wordpress.com/career-advice/work-hard/
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like as a 6th grader i was definitely way smarter than average and was doing 9th grade or so math, and got 12 on the amc8 (horrible). this year i got 16 (avg as heck), and im aiming for dhr next year (22-23 or above). just gotta put in the work and the hours
this is coming from someone who doesnt even study math a lot
keep going, math will probably open a lot of doors in life in the future.
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dude 16 is good for someone your age

stop putting yourself down because you're on this website full of smarties
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Me in 6th grade: 15 in amc8 (so pretty average)

Me in 7th grade: 11 in amc8 (so really dumb)

*grinds after hearing that score*

Me in 8th grade: 20 in amc8 (well, the test was easy...but my parents expected a 25) -- 81 in amc10a

Me this year (9th): 130.5 in amc10a (that's because the test was NT-biased; MOCK), 93 in amc12a, aime

OFFICIAL amc10b = 114.5 which is not bad but also not exceptional

Moral of the story: anything can happen if you grind enough
(100th post!!!)

114.5 totally possible score
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