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k a March Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
jlacosta   0
Mar 2, 2025
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
dcouchman   1
N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
Want to help AoPS remain a valuable Olympiad resource? Help us add contests to AoPS's Contest Collections.

Find instructions and a list of contests to add here: https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c40244h1064480_contests_to_add
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dcouchman
Sep 9, 2019
v_Enhance
Apr 5, 2023
k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

Update (by Amir Hossein). The best way to search for two keywords in AoPS is to input
[code]+"first keyword" +"second keyword"[/code]
so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


d) Of any interest and with content:
Don't post things that are more trivial than completely obvious. For example, if the question is to solve $x^{3}+y^{3}=z^{3}$, do not answer with "$x=y=z=0$ is a solution" only. Either you post any kind of proof or at least something unexpected (like "$x=1337, y=481, z=42$ is the smallest solution). Someone that does not see that $x=y=z=0$ is a solution of the above without your post is completely wrong here, this is an IMO-level forum.
Similar, posting "I have solved this problem" but not posting anything else is not welcome; it even looks that you just want to show off what a genius you are.

e) Well written and checked answers:
Like c) for new threads, check your solutions at least twice for mistakes. And after sending, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.



To repeat it: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!


Everything definitely out of range of common sense will be locked or deleted (exept for new users having less than about 42 posts, they are newbies and need/get some time to learn).

The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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ZetaX
Feb 27, 2007
NoDealsHere
May 4, 2019
2025 USA(J)MO Cutoff Predictions
KevinChen_Yay   99
N 4 minutes ago by hashbrown2009
What do y'all think JMO winner and MOP cuts will be?

(Also, to satisfy the USAMO takers; what about the bronze, silver, gold, green mop, blue mop, black mop?)
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KevinChen_Yay
Yesterday at 12:33 PM
hashbrown2009
4 minutes ago
Tennessee Math Tournament (TMT) Online 2025
TennesseeMathTournament   38
N 28 minutes ago by Cerberusman
Hello everyone! We are excited to announce a new competition, the Tennessee Math Tournament, created by the Tennessee Math Coalition! Anyone can participate in the virtual competition for free.

The testing window is from March 22nd to April 5th, 2025. Virtual competitors may participate in the competition at any time during that window.

The virtual competition consists of three rounds: Individual, Bullet, and Team. The Individual Round is 60 minutes long and consists of 30 questions (AMC 10 level). The Bullet Round is 20 minutes long and consists of 80 questions (Mathcounts Chapter level). The Team Round is 30 minutes long and consists of 16 questions (AMC 12 level). Virtual competitors may compete in teams of four, or choose to not participate in the team round.

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TennesseeMathTournament
Mar 9, 2025
Cerberusman
28 minutes ago
usamOOK geometry
KevinYang2.71   72
N 37 minutes ago by ehuseyinyigit
Source: USAMO 2025/4, USAJMO 2025/5
Let $H$ be the orthocenter of acute triangle $ABC$, let $F$ be the foot of the altitude from $C$ to $AB$, and let $P$ be the reflection of $H$ across $BC$. Suppose that the circumcircle of triangle $AFP$ intersects line $BC$ at two distinct points $X$ and $Y$. Prove that $C$ is the midpoint of $XY$.
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KevinYang2.71
Yesterday at 12:00 PM
ehuseyinyigit
37 minutes ago
TOTAL PATHS
deetimodi   7
N an hour ago by aidan0626
Can anyone pls tell me how to do this problem?
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deetimodi
3 hours ago
aidan0626
an hour ago
Find interger root
Zuyong   2
N 3 hours ago by WallyWalrus
Source: ?
Find $(k,m)\in \mathbb{Z}$ satisfying $$9 k^4 + 30 k^3 + 44 k^2 m + 105 k^2 + 20 k m - 120 k + 36 m^2 + 80 m - 240=0$$
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Zuyong
Oct 24, 2024
WallyWalrus
3 hours ago
Math Problem
hashbrown2009   1
N 3 hours ago by aidan0626
Show that the inequality
$$\sum_{i=1}^n \sum_{j=1}^n \sqrt{|x_i-x_j|} \le \sum_{i=1}^n \sum_{j=1}^n \sqrt{|x_i+x_j|}$$holds for all real numbers $x_1,x_2,\dots,x_n$.

Proposed by Calvin Deng.

Do not copy solutions.
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hashbrown2009
4 hours ago
aidan0626
3 hours ago
Simple inequality
sqing   56
N 4 hours ago by Tamam
Source: Shortlist BMO 2018, A1
Let $a, b, c $ be positive real numbers such that $abc = \frac {2} {3}. $ Prove that:

$$\frac {ab}{a + b} + \frac {bc} {b + c} + \frac {ca} {c + a} \geqslant  \frac {a+b+c} {a^3+b ^ 3 + c ^ 3}.$$
56 replies
sqing
May 3, 2019
Tamam
4 hours ago
stuck on a system of recurrence sequence
Nonecludiangeofan   2
N 4 hours ago by Nonecludiangeofan
Please guys help me solve this nasty problem that i've been stuck for the past month:
Let \( (a_n) \) and \( (b_n) \) be two sequences defined by:
\[
a_{n+1} = \frac{1 + a_n + a_n b_n}{b_n} \quad \text{and} \quad b_{n+1} = \frac{1 + b_n + a_n b_n}{a_n}
\]for all \( n \ge 0 \), with initial values \( a_0 = 1 \) and \( b_0 = 2 \).

Prove that:
\[
a_{2024} < 5.
\]
(btw am still not comfortable with system of recurrence sequences)
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Nonecludiangeofan
Mar 20, 2025
Nonecludiangeofan
4 hours ago
Numbers on a Board
Olympiadium   14
N 4 hours ago by deduck
Source: RMM 2021/4
Consider an integer \(n \ge 2\) and write the numbers \(1, 2,  \ldots, n\) down on a board. A move consists in erasing any two numbers \(a\) and \(b\), then writing down the numbers \(a+b\) and \(\vert a-b \vert\) on the board, and then removing repetitions (e.g., if the board contained the numbers \(2, 5, 7, 8\), then one could choose the numbers \(a = 5\) and \(b = 7\), obtaining the board with numbers \(2, 8, 12\)). For all integers \(n \ge 2\), determine whether it is possible to be left with exactly two numbers on the board after a finite number of moves.

Proposed by China
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Olympiadium
Oct 14, 2021
deduck
4 hours ago
A nice problem
hanzo.ei   1
N 4 hours ago by alexheinis

Given a nonzero real number \(a\) and a polynomial \(P(x)\) with real coefficients of degree \(n\) (\(n > 1\)) such that \(P(x)\) has no real roots. Prove that the polynomial
\[
Q(x) \;=\; P(x) \;+\; a\,P'(x) \;+\; a^2\,P''(x) \;+\; \dots \;+\; a^n\,P^{(n)}(x)
\]has no real roots.
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hanzo.ei
6 hours ago
alexheinis
4 hours ago
Dear Sqing: So Many Inequalities...
hashtagmath   24
N 4 hours ago by GreekIdiot
I have noticed thousands upon thousands of inequalities that you have posted to HSO and was wondering where you get the inspiration, imagination, and even the validation that such inequalities are true? Also, what do you find particularly appealing and important about specifically inequalities rather than other branches of mathematics? Thank you :)
24 replies
hashtagmath
Oct 30, 2024
GreekIdiot
4 hours ago
interesting set problem
Dr.Poe98   1
N 4 hours ago by americancheeseburger4281
Source: Brazil Cono Sur TST 2024 - T3/P3
For a pair of integers $a$ and $b$, with $0<a<b<1000$, a set $S\subset \begin{Bmatrix}1,2,3,...,2024\end{Bmatrix}$ $escapes$ the pair $(a,b)$ if for any elements $s_1,s_2\in S$ we have $\left|s_1-s_2\right| \notin \begin{Bmatrix}a,b\end{Bmatrix}$. Let $f(a,b)$ be the greatest possible number of elements of a set that escapes the pair $(a,b)$. Find the maximum and minimum values of $f$.
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Dr.Poe98
Oct 21, 2024
americancheeseburger4281
4 hours ago
Reflection lies on incircle
MP8148   5
N 4 hours ago by deraxenrovalo
Source: GOWACA Mock Geoly P3
In triangle $ABC$ with incircle $\omega$, let $I$ be the incenter and $D$ be the point where $\omega$ touches $\overline{BC}$. Let $S$ be the point on $(ABC)$ with $\angle ASI = 90^\circ$ and $H$ be the orthocenter of $\triangle BIC$, so that $Q \ne S$ on $\overline{HS}$ also satisfies $\angle AQI = 90^\circ$. Prove that $X$, the reflection of $I$ over the midpoint of $\overline{DQ}$, lies on $\omega$.
5 replies
MP8148
Aug 6, 2021
deraxenrovalo
4 hours ago
Symmetric inequality FTW
Kimchiks926   20
N 5 hours ago by Marcus_Zhang
Source: Latvian TST for Baltic Way 2020 P1
Prove that for positive reals $a,b,c$ satisfying $a+b+c=3$ the following inequality holds:
$$ \frac{a}{1+2b^3}+\frac{b}{1+2c^3}+\frac{c}{1+2a^3} \ge 1 $$
20 replies
Kimchiks926
Oct 17, 2020
Marcus_Zhang
5 hours ago
Quadrilateral APBQ
v_Enhance   134
N Mar 20, 2025 by quantam13
Source: USAMO 2015 Problem 2, JMO Problem 3
Quadrilateral $APBQ$ is inscribed in circle $\omega$ with $\angle P = \angle Q = 90^{\circ}$ and $AP = AQ < BP$. Let $X$ be a variable point on segment $\overline{PQ}$. Line $AX$ meets $\omega$ again at $S$ (other than $A$). Point $T$ lies on arc $AQB$ of $\omega$ such that $\overline{XT}$ is perpendicular to $\overline{AX}$. Let $M$ denote the midpoint of chord $\overline{ST}$. As $X$ varies on segment $\overline{PQ}$, show that $M$ moves along a circle.
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v_Enhance
Apr 28, 2015
quantam13
Mar 20, 2025
Quadrilateral APBQ
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Source: USAMO 2015 Problem 2, JMO Problem 3
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Quadrilateral $APBQ$ is inscribed in circle $\omega$ with $\angle P = \angle Q = 90^{\circ}$ and $AP = AQ < BP$. Let $X$ be a variable point on segment $\overline{PQ}$. Line $AX$ meets $\omega$ again at $S$ (other than $A$). Point $T$ lies on arc $AQB$ of $\omega$ such that $\overline{XT}$ is perpendicular to $\overline{AX}$. Let $M$ denote the midpoint of chord $\overline{ST}$. As $X$ varies on segment $\overline{PQ}$, show that $M$ moves along a circle.
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Anyone succesfully bash this?

I noticed that inverting about $A$ with radius $AP$ made something interesting, but I am not too sure.
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How much would I get for pointing out the similar triangles and claiming that $M'$, $M$, and the midpoints of $BQ$ and $BP$ are concyclic?
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DrMath wrote:
Anyone succesfully bash this?
Yes.

Toss on the complex unit circle with $a = -1$, $b=1$, $z = -\tfrac12$. Let $s$ and $t$ be on the unit circle. We claim $Z$ is the center. It follows from standard formulas that \[ x = \frac 12 \left( s + t - 1 + s/t \right) \] thus \[ 4\operatorname{Re} x + 2 = s + t + \frac 1s + \frac 1t + \frac st + \frac ts \] which depends only on $P$ and $Q$, and not on $X$. Thus \[ 4\left\lvert z-\frac{s+t}{2} \right\rvert^2 = \left\lvert s+t+1 \right\rvert^2 = 3 + (4\operatorname{Re}x+2) \] does not depend on $X$, done.
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Reason: tfrac 12 instead of frac 12
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brian22 wrote:
I KNEW IT WAS AT -1/2! I'm just bad at geo so I couldn't prove it :(
Did you write that down? I think that might be the kind of thing that would be worth a point.

Actually IMO realizing the center is $-\tfrac 12$ is the entire difficulty of the problem -- it's totally unexpected that the center doesn't even depend on $P$ and $Q$! (This is why drawing good diagrams is important!) I cheated and used GeoGebra so I saw this in about five minutes, but once you realize this it's really quite direct if you've done enough complex numbers.
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Sketch: $AX\cdot AS=AP^2$ is fixed. So if $N$ is the midpoint of $AS$ then $AX\cdot AN$ is fixed, i.e. the power of $A$ wrt the nine point circle $\gamma$ of $AST$ is fixed. Let $R$ be the radius of $\omega$. The radius of $\gamma$ is $\tfrac{R}{2}$. If $R$ is the nine point center of $AST$, then the power of $A$ wrt $\gamma$ is $AR^2-\tfrac{R^2}{4}$. Since $R$ is fixed, so is $AR$. If $G$ is the centroid of $AST$, then $G$ lies on segment $RO$ with $GR:GO=\tfrac{1}{2}$. Also $\tfrac{AG}{GM}=2$. $R$ lies on the circle $\Omega$ centered at $A$ with radius $AR$ ($AR$ is fixed). Two homotheties, centered at $O$ and $A$, send the locus of $P$ to the locus of $M$. Since the locus of $P$ is a subset of $\Omega$, the locus of $M$ is a subset of some circle (circles are sent to circles under homotheties). So done.
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brian22
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@v_Enhance I wrote that it had to pass through $P$ and $Q$... :(. I was less sure of the $-\frac{1}{2}$ thing, so I didn't write it down.
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mota60ceng
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v_Enhance wrote:
brian22 wrote:
I KNEW IT WAS AT -1/2! I'm just bad at geo so I couldn't prove it :(
Did you write that down? I think that might be the kind of thing that would be worth a point.

Actually IMO realizing the center is $-\tfrac 12$ is the entire difficulty of the problem -- it's totally unexpected that the center doesn't even depend on $P$ and $Q$! (This is why drawing good diagrams is important!) I cheated and used GeoGebra so I saw this in about five minutes, but once you realize this it's really quite direct if you've done enough complex numbers.

What is the intuition after you realize the center is at -1/2? I realize that, but couldn't continue anywhere with my bash. What made you set s,t and solve for x, as opposed to setting x and solve for m?
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DrMath
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I tried coordinate bashing and got a big expression for $MZ$ where $Z=-1/2$ but didn't explicity show that $MZ$ was constant. How many points would that get?
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If you do special points on the segment then you get that it's the circumcircle of PQC where C is the midpoint of BP or something like that, so then you can get the center is 1/2
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Yeah, take $X\rightarrow P, Q, N$ where $N$ is the midpoint of $PQ$.
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mota60ceng wrote:
What is the intuition after you realize the center is at -1/2? I realize that, but couldn't continue anywhere with my bash. What made you set s,t and solve for x, as opposed to setting x and solve for m?

The point is that the center doesn't even depend on $P$ and $Q$! Clearly, then $P$ and $Q$ cannot be very important :)

In other words, with this insight the problem becomes ``show that $ZM$ depends only on the real part of $x$''. For this $s$ and $t$ make much nicer free variables.
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Is it true that A, M, the midpoint of BP, and the midpoint of BQ are concyclic?
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v_Enhance
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math2468 wrote:
Is it true that A, M, the midpoint of BP, and the midpoint of BQ are concyclic?
No, unfortunately. :(
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Not A... Anyways, it was actually pretty easy by trying trivial possible X to figure out that the center was the midpoint of AO. Then 4 hours later, no progress (darn I thought geo was my strength). Finally, in the last half hour I proceed that if you extend TX to T', call M' the midpoint of ST' (they were trying to trick you into only working with the given T), then the midpoint of AO is equidistant from M and M'. I thought continuity with proof by contradiction might work but that seemed like fake-solve, but time was up anyways. But you find that P, Q, M, M', midpoint of BP, BQ lie on the circle. I guess since I ended with midpoint of AO equidistant from M, M', I would get 2 or 3? Any guesses?

Pythagoras I pray to you please help me with geo, like you and Euclid did last year.
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