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i mean.. whattttt??? just found out about this.. is he on aops? (i'm sure he is) where are you orz lol..
https://www.mathschool.com/blog/results/celebrating-success-douglas-zhang-is-rsm-s-youngest-usajmo-qualifier
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AIME Resources
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I am currently in 6th grade and am about halfway done with the intro to algebra class. I plan to take the intro to geometry class, and self study from the intro to counting and probability book, aops volume 1, and competition math for middle school by the end of next year(before amc). I mock about a 18-20 on the amc 8, and I don't really know what my amc 10/12 score would be. I'm aiming for at least a DHR next year in amc 8 and hopefully aime qual(btw I live in australia)
1) would I need to to the intermediate series and/or aops volume 2 for aime qual?
2)What are some books that would really help me prep for amc10/12 and aime?
3)what are some specific topics that you think would be useful for me to cover for aime qual?
4) Should I also do intro to number theory or is that not necessary?
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Source: USAJMO 2020/4
Let $ABCD$ be a convex quadrilateral inscribed in a circle and satisfying $DA < AB = BC < CD$. Points $E$ and $F$ are chosen on sides $CD$ and $AB$ such that $BE \perp AC$ and $EF \parallel BC$. Prove that $FB = FD$.

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I’m preparing AIME and USA(J)MO.
Can you recommend specifically Number theory books?
I already had intro NT of AOSP.
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do NOT double count (0,0)
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Find the number of ordered pairs $(x,y)$, where both $x$ and $y$ are integers between $-100$ and $100$ inclusive, such that $12x^2-xy-6y^2=0$.
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Find the number of ordered pairs $(x,y)$, where both $x$ and $y$ are integers between $-100$ and $100$ inclusive, such that $12x^2-xy-6y^2=0$.
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got 118 rip
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Solving for x in terms of y using the quadratic formula gives x = -2y/3 or x = 3y/4, then +-(2,-3) , (4,-6), ... (66,-99) and +- (3,4), (6,8), ....(75,100) and (0,0) for a total of 117
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mathMagicOPS wrote:
got 118 rip

Same... I double counted (0,0)
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118 gang
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Took me way too long to factor the expression...

$12x^2 - xy - 6y^2$ can be factored as $(4x - 3y)(3x + 2y)$. Thus, we consider three cases: $4x - 3y = 0$, $3x + 2y = 0$, or both.

The first case yields $25 \cdot 2 + 1$ pairs. The second case yields $33 \cdot 2 + 1$ pairs. The third case yields $1$ pair. This yields $51 + 67 - 1 = \boxed{117}$ pairs.
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First note that $x = y = 0$ is a solution then divide by $xy$, sub $a = \frac{x}{y}$ to get $12a - 1 -\frac{6}{a} = 0$, so $\frac{x}{y} = -\frac{2}{3}, \frac{3}{4}$. Casework gives $33\cdot 2 + 25\cdot 2 + 1 = \boxed{\textbf{(117)}}$.
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the moment I saw the title I wanted to shoot myself

i doubled counted (0,0)....rip
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I spent 4 minutes looking into Vieta jumping and Pell's before I realized this was the AIME whoops
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when you forget that you don't need to double count when x is a multiple of 6
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Just consider non-zero y... its not that hard and then add $1$ at the end
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Put 118 :/
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andrewcheng wrote:
when you forget that you don't need to double count when x is a multiple of 6

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almost put 118
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im part of 118 club :skull:

I guess from now on I have to consider PIE for every single problem I do casework on
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$$12x^2-xy-6y=0$$$$(4x-3y)(3y+2x)=0$$$$3y=4x, y=\frac{4}{3}x$$and $$3x=-2y, y=-\frac{3}{2}x$$
For first case, $y=\frac{4}{3}x$

$y$ can equal ${-100, -96, -92,..., 96, 100}$

Which is 51 cases

For the second case, $y=-\frac{3}{2}$

$y$ can equal ${-99, -96, ..., 96, 99}$

Which is 67 cases

$$51 + 67 = 118$$
But the lines intersect at $(0,0)$ so we have to subtract $1$ for overcount.

$$118 - 1 = 117$$
$$\fbox{117}$$
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Solution

yeah this avoids that completely
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really easy problem imo
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It was definitely a straightforward problem; it's unfortunate so many of us put 117
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isn't the answer 117 though
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BS2012 wrote:
isn't the answer 117 though

unfortunate that so many people got it correct???!?! :rotfl:
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Elephant200 wrote:
It was definitely a straightforward problem; it's unfortunate so many of us put 117

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it is 117
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bro i put 116, missed (0, 0) case oops.
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same here! I can't believe I double counted (0, 0) :blush:
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mathMagicOPS wrote:
got 118 rip

Same... I double counted (0,0)

same
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Elephant200 wrote:
It was definitely a straightforward problem; it's unfortunate so many of us put 117

it is 117 lol. i got it as well.
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I have fortunately been traumatized by combinatorics problems in various mocks a lot; enough that I immediately didn't trust 118.
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i may not have double counted (0, 0) but i also did not single count (0, 0)
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we could make a poll and see how much people put 118

I almost put 116 (thought (0,0) gave undefined)
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We have $$12x^2 - xy - 6y^2 = 0$$,assume some constant $k$ allows us to factor by grouping, thus the expression becomes $$12x^2 + kxy - (k+1)xy - 6y^2 = 0$$or $x(12x+ky) -y((k+1)x + 6y)$. In order to factor we want $$ \frac{k}{12} = \frac{6}{k+1}$$,we find $k = 8$ and we can factor and solve as above
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I just did some rigorous bashing for factoring and got 118 but then.. I changed it to 117 :)
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basically like (4x-3y)(3x+2y)=0 so like 4x=3y or 3x=-2y ykyk and count each case seperately like for the first x magnitude goes up to 75 but is a multiple of 3 so like 51 and then the second one is like x magnitude go up to 66 but even so like 67 so like 51+67-1 cuz 0, 0 is overcounted so like $\boxed{117}$
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here is my solution I didn't actually bash that hard tho Solution + Answer
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QF in terms of $x.$ We get $x=-\tfrac23y$ or $x=\tfrac34y,$ so $50+66+1=\boxed{117}.$

of course in test i did 25+33+1 because i forgot y could be negative. anyone else get 059?
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Existing_Human1 wrote:
We have $$12x^2 - xy - 6y^2 = 0$$,assume some constant $k$ allows us to factor by grouping, thus the expression becomes $$12x^2 + kxy - (k+1)xy - 6y^2 = 0$$or $x(12x+ky) -y((k+1)x + 6y)$. In order to factor we want $$ \frac{k}{12} = \frac{6}{k+1}$$,we find $k = 8$ and we can factor and solve as above

Best solution trust
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factor to get $\left(4x-3y\right)\left(3x+2y\right)=0$ then just find x and y and make sure not to double counted the zero :wallbash:
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Find the number of ordered pairs $(x,y)$, where both $x$ and $y$ are integers between $-100$ and $100$ inclusive, such that $12x^2-xy-6y^2=0$.

By the quadratic formula (viewing this equation as a quadratic in $y$) this equation is equivalent to:
$$6y^2+xy-12x^2=0\Leftrightarrow y=\frac{-x\pm17x}{12}\Leftrightarrow y\in\left\{\frac{4x}3,-\frac{3x}2\right\}.$$We now have two mutually exclusive cases:

Case 1: $y=\frac{4x}3$
We must have $3\mid x$. Since $y\le100$, we can constraint $\frac{4x}3\le100$ which rearranges to $x\le75$. Likewise, since $y\ge-100$, $x\ge-75$. All such $-75\le x\le75$ with $3\mid x$ will produce a valid and unique $-100\le y\le100$ satisfying the original equation, so it just remains to count the number of solutions for $x$ which is $\frac{75-(-75)}3+1=51$.

Case 2: $y\ne\frac{4x}3$ and $y=\frac{-3x}2$
As before $2\mid x$ and we proceed to bound $x$. Since $-\frac{3x}2=y\le100$, we have $x\ge-66$, and similarly $x\le66$. All such $-66\le x\le66$ with $2\mid x$ will produce a valid and unique solution for $y$ except for $x=0$, which violates the $y\ne\frac{4x}3$ constraint. Thus our answer for this case is (subtracting $1$ at the end so as not to count $x=0$) $\frac{66-(-66)}2+1-1=66$.

In all there are $51+66=\boxed{117}$ solutions.
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Fix $y$, and solve over $x$, we have\[
x=\frac{-y\pm17y}{24}
\]so either $x=\frac{3}{4}y$, or $x=-\frac{2}{3}y$.

$\bullet$ if $x=\frac{3}{4}y$, then we have $y=-100, -96, \dots 100$, hence there are $51$ solutions.

$\bullet$ Similarly for $x=-\frac{2}{3}y$, there are $67$ solutions.

We only double counted $(0, 0)$ as a solution, so the answer is $51+67-1=117$.
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