LaTeX sizing error?

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ImSh95

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#1 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:36 PM • 1 Y

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Is this just me, or is the $4$ in $410$ bigger than the $4$ in $476$ ?

Summary of the problem:
Some numbers in $\LaTeX$ appear bigger than others.
Ex.: The font size of $11$ seems small compared to that of $53$ .

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Steps to reproduce:
1. Type two dollar signs to begin writing in $\LaTeX$ .
2. Type numbers in between the dollar signs.
3. Look at the preview. (This does not only occur in the preview. It occurs in posts as well.)

Expected behavior: Some numbers will appear to have a larger font size than others.

Frequency: 100%

Operating system: Windows 10

Browser: Mozilla Firefox 115.0.2 (64-bit)

Additional information:
My findings: (hidden for length)

I am aware that this might be just me. I'm also aware that this is not a big issue; I am just wondering why it's happening.

Thanks

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TwitchX

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#2 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:37 PM • 1 Y

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I have no idea why, but I noticed that before too
not really considered a problem tho

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ImSh95

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#3 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:38 PM • 1 Y

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yeah ik
do you use firefox too?

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TwitchX

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#4 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:40 PM • 1 Y

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ImSh95 wrote:

yeah ik
do you use firefox too?

no
I use chrome and edge

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ImSh95

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#5 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:42 PM • 1 Y

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ok so it's not a browser problem then

do u use windows 10?

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w32dedorh30

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#6 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:54 PM • 1 Y

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Safari $\quad$

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TwitchX

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#7 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:55 PM • 1 Y

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ImSh95 wrote:

ok so it's not a browser problem then

do u use windows 10?

windows 11

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ImSh95

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#8 h Jul 27, 2023, 7:59 PM • 1 Y

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ok cool
not a operating system problem either

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Bookworm2008

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#9 h Jul 27, 2023, 8:02 PM • 2 Y

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All $\LaTeX$ expressions are cached, so the bigger and fuzzier looking images are likely due to an earlier version rendering it wonky, then that wonky version being saved and referenced forever. Note the same issue occurs with $\triangle ABC$ and $\triangle ABC~$ . The former appears squished, while the latter renders like normal, although the only difference is a '~' at the end.

Also, in regards to your example at the beginning, I see the exact opposite.

It would be nice if AoPS could reset the cache, but that would lead to extreme lag as all $\LaTeX$ expressions are forced to re-render at the exact same time... Perhaps AoPS could reset the cache during a maintenance session?

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ImSh95

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#10 h Jul 27, 2023, 8:07 PM • 2 Y

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Ahh okay. Thank you Bookworm.

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w32dedorh30

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#11 h Jul 27, 2023, 8:24 PM • 1 Y

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ImSh95 wrote:

Ahh okay. Thank you Bookworm.

$1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,10,26,3647,9272,91728,8282772,018637940176545,3*536728191019810,7362718196268303$

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club52

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#12 h Jul 27, 2023, 9:35 PM • 2 Y

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This would also explain why asymptote is broken. Some weird things are cached in the memory, which explains the difference between
$[asy] dot((0,0)); [/asy]$
and
$[asy] dot((0,0));[/asy]$
Both of them have the exact same code, but the latter has one of the lines shifted.
Note: the former is too small to see, so I have attached an image of it.

Attachments:

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CrystalFlower

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#13 h Jul 27, 2023, 9:37 PM • 1 Y

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ImSh95 wrote:

ok so it's not a browser problem then

do u use windows 10?

I'm on windows 10, latex has same probem

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CraftyGecko

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#14 h Jul 27, 2023, 10:00 PM • 1 Y

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this is kinda weird

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CrystalFlower

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#15 h Jul 27, 2023, 10:06 PM • 1 Y

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CraftyGecko wrote:

this is kinda weird

wdym
actually ya

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#16 h Jul 27, 2023, 10:21 PM • 1 Y

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safari and this is a problem

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Sotowa

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#17 h Jul 28, 2023, 12:29 AM • 1 Y

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I've noticed that a lot of the numbers have gotten weird recently:
$1$ $2$ $3$ $4$ $5$ $6$ $7$ $8$ $9$ $10$ $11$ $12$ $13$ $14$ $15$ $16$ $17$ $18$ $19$ $20$ $21$ $22$ $23$ $24$ $25$ $26$ $27$ $28$ $29$ $30$ $31$ $32$ $33$ $34$ $35$ $36$ $37$ $38$ $39$ $40$ $41$ $42$ $43$ $44$ $45$ $46$ $47$ $48$ $49$ $50$ $51$ $52$ $53$ $54$ $55$ $56$ $57$ $58$ $59$ $60$ $61$ $62$ $63$ $64$ $65$ $66$ $67$ $68$ $69$ $70$ $71$ $72$ $73$ $74$ $75$ $76$ $77$ $78$ $79$ $80$ $81$ $82$ $83$ $84$ $85$ $86$ $87$ $88$ $89$ $90$ $91$ $92$ $93$ $94$ $95$ $96$ $97$ $98$ $99$ $100$

This goes under this list of LaTeX issues:

List wrote:

This is known, but it is very difficult for developers to fix. It has been posted before and the developers are likely aware of it, but it is not high on the priority list.
Some examples include: $1~$ (vs $1$ ), $P$ (vs $P~$ ), $i$ (vs $i~$ ), $L$ (vs $L~$ ), $565$ (vs $565~$ ), $n$ (vs $n~$ ), $\triangle ABC$ (vs $\triangle$ $ABC$ ), and $10 \times 10$ (vs $10 \times 10~$ ).

There must have been a recent update, since there used to be issues with $2$ , $3$ , $5$ , $9$ , $3892$ , and $1 \times n$ .

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#18 h Aug 2, 2023, 4:08 PM • 1 Y

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Bumping this since it's still an issue.

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ethancui0529

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#19 h Aug 2, 2023, 4:27 PM • 1 Y

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imo i think its cuz the $1$ is less wide than the $7,$ so theres more space for the $4$ in $410$ than there is in $470,$ so i guess this is logical

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Sotowa

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#20 h Aug 2, 2023, 4:33 PM • 1 Y

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That's a good theory, but I don't think it's the case. The numbers aren't all the same size, like $61$ and $66$ .

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Demetri

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#21 h Aug 2, 2023, 5:20 PM

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Testing numbers with just dollar signs, dollar signs and ~, and dollar signs {} and ~. Seems like the {} and ~ have the nicest results.
$60$ $61$ $62$ $63$ $64$ $65$ $66$ $67$ $68$ $69$
$60~$ $61~$ $62~$ $63~$ $64~$ $65~$ $66~$ $67~$ $68~$ $69~$
$60{}~$ $61{}~$ $62{}~$ $63{}~$ $64{}~$ $65{}~$ $66{}~$ $67{}~$ $68{}~$ $69{}~$

$0$ $1$ $2$ $3$ $4$ $5$ $6$ $7$ $8$ $9$
$0$ $1~$ $2~$ $3~$ $4~$ $5~$ $6~$ $7~$ $8~$ $9~$
$0{}~$ $1{}~$ $2{}~$ $3{}~$ $4{}~$ $5{}~$ $6{}~$ $7{}~$ $8{}~$ $9{}~$

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Sotowa

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#22 h Aug 2, 2023, 5:23 PM

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I typically use tildes (~), but $1~$ has been off for a while. It's still a pain since the LaTeX rendering also affects old posts and I don't want to use my time going through old posts to add tildes.

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#23 h Aug 3, 2023, 9:09 PM

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We don't have immediate plans to reset the cache of rendered LaTeX, but we can pass along your concerns.

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