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Im gonna be taking Geo 2 and i was deciding if to take combo 2, alg2.5, both, or neither.

My main goal is to qualify for JMO in 10th grade(next yr). Ive done aops int c+p but i didnt fully understand everything.

Would combo 2 and/or alg 2 be good for jmo qual?
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Hi everyone,

Recently I;ve started doing a lot of nice combo/algebra Olympiad problems(JMO, PAGMO, CMO, etc.) and I’ve got to say, it’s been pretty fun(I’m enjoying it!). I was wondering if doing Olympiad problems also helps increase computational abilities slightly. Currently I am doing 75% computational, 25% oly but if anyone has any expreience I want to switch it to 25% computational and 75% Olympiad, though I still want to have computational skills for ARML, AIME, SMT, BMT, HMMT, etc.

If anyone has any experience, please let me know!

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N 3 hours ago by megarnie
If you were in 8th grade, would you rather go to MOP or mc nats? I chose to study the former more and got in so was wondering if that was valid given that I'll never make mc nats.
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centslordm   29
N Apr 6, 2025 by Apple_maths60
Source: 2024 AMC 12A #15
The roots of $x^3 + 2x^2 - x + 3$ are $p, q,$ and $r.$ What is the value of \[(p^2 + 4)(q^2 + 4)(r^2 + 4)?\]
$\textbf{(A) } 64 \qquad \textbf{(B) } 75 \qquad \textbf{(C) } 100 \qquad \textbf{(D) } 125 \qquad \textbf{(E) } 144$
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The roots of $x^3 + 2x^2 - x + 3$ are $p, q,$ and $r.$ What is the value of \[(p^2 + 4)(q^2 + 4)(r^2 + 4)?\]
$\textbf{(A) } 64 \qquad \textbf{(B) } 75 \qquad \textbf{(C) } 100 \qquad \textbf{(D) } 125 \qquad \textbf{(E) } 144$
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Writing that $\color{white} f(x) = x^3 + 2x^2 - x + 3$ yields\[(p^2+ 4)(q^2+  4)(r^2 + 4) = (p-2i)(p+2i)(q-2i)(q+2i)(r-2i)(r+2i) = f(2i) f(-2i) = \boxed{125},\]we're done.
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Do vieta's on $(x^2 + 4)$ to get $\textbf{(D)\ 125}.$
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I can confirm D
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Vistas
D confimred
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BS2012
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D confirmed by me
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My question is, why was this not on 10a :/
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Wow this problem has a nice solution ... I Vieta bashed. D confirmed.
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Sedro wrote:
... I Vieta bashed.

SAME lol
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I saw the $P(2i) P(-2i)$ but didn't want to do it: I just did $(3)^2 + 16(2^2 + 2) + 4(1^2 - 12)  + 4^3 = \boxed{\textbf{(D)}\ 125}$

(i still think the vieta bash is easier than $P(2i) P(-2i)$)
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cheese:
after getting $P(2i)P(-2i)$, note that this is the norm of a Gaussian integer, and for parity reasons it should be odd which gives 125
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Nice sol

I just vieta bashed :(
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most original maa problem:
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I did a long long long dumb vieta bash
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Can also find polynomial with roots $p^2$, $q^2$ and $r^2$ by subbing $x \mapsto \sqrt{x}$ and squaring.
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sooooo looks like we’re putting random decade-old usamo problems on the amc12 now
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was this the only complex problem on 12? I don't even know if the complex solution is intended as vieta seems more intuitive LOL
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Big brain approaches. I would have expanded and did vieta's on each if I was taking this test (I take 10)
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lovematch13 wrote:
Big brain approaches. I would have expanded and did vieta's on each if I was taking this test (I take 10)

Nah I didn’t even know how to do it
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Not necessarily bashing.

Note that if $x$ is a root of the given polynomial, then
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0 = x^3 + 2x^2 - x + 3 &= (x^2 + 4) + (x^3 + x^2 - x - 1) \\
\Rightarrow x^2 + 4 &= -x^3 - x^2 + x + 1 \\
\Rightarrow x^2 + 4 &= (x+1)^2 (1-x).
\end{align*}So the expression becomes \[ [(p+1)(q+1)(r+1)]^2 \cdot (1-p)(1-q)(1-r). \]First part expands to \[ pqr + (pq + qr + rp) + (p + q + r) + 1 = -3 - 2 - 1 + 1 = -5 \]and the second part expands to \[ -pqr + (pq + qr + rp) - (p + q + r) + 1 = 3 - 1 + 2 + 1  = 5, \]so substituting yields \[ (-5)^2 \cdot 5 = \boxed{125} . \]
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This is similar to many of the ideas shared here, but I wanted to make the products look as much like the polynomial, say $f(x)$, as possible:

\[
\frac{1}{pqr}pqr(p^2+4)(q^2+4)(r^2+4)=\frac{1}{pqr}(p^3+4p)(q^3+4q)(r^3+4r)=\frac{-1}{pqr}(2p^2-5p+3)(2q^2-5q+3)(2r^2-5r+3)
\]Which factors nicely into linear products of the roots:
\[
\frac{-1}{pqr}(2p-3)(p-1)(2q-3)(q-1)(2r-3)(r-1)=\frac{1}{3}(-f(1))(-8f(3/2))=\frac{5}{3}\cdot8(6+27/8)=\boxed{125}
\]Where we have divided out by $pqr=-3$ (Vietas). I'm new to Aops but this was too fun a problem to not share!
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D confirmed, I bashed using vietas
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How is $P(2i)P(-2i)$ 125?
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Isaac1630 wrote:
How is $P(2i)P(-2i)$ 125?

If $P(x)$ is the given polynomial, then $P(2i)=(2i)^3 + 2(2i)^2 - 2i + 3 = -5+10i$. $P(-2i)$ can be found similarly (or just note that only the imaginary part changes), and $P(-2i)=-5-10i$.
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Best problem on the test, and straightforward for those who know 2014 USAMO P1. Let the given polynomial be $f(x)$.

Note that $$x^2+4=(x+2i)(x-2i)$$for all values of $x$. Therefore, the desired expression equals $$\bigg(\prod (p+2i) \bigg)\bigg(\prod (p-2i) \bigg)$$$$=\bigg(\prod (-2i-p) \bigg)\bigg(\prod (2i-p) \bigg)$$$$=f(-2i)f(2i)$$$$=\boxed{125}.$$
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megahertz13 wrote:
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Vieta's solution since nobody posted it
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The 2i solution is clever god damm
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The 2i solution is smart asl my guys brain is beyond my understanding
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Same solution as pog,
Using Vieta, we get
(pqr)^2 =9
p^2+q^2+r^2=6
(pq)^2+(qr)^2+(rp)^2=11
Then,
(p^2+1)(q^2+1)(r^2+1)=(pqr)^2+16(p^2+q^2+r^2)+4((pq)^2+(qr)^2+(rp)^2)+64
Substituting the values we get the answer as 125(D)
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