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k a May Highlights and 2025 AoPS Online Class Information
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k i Adding contests to the Contest Collections
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N Apr 5, 2023 by v_Enhance
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k i Zero tolerance
ZetaX   49
N May 4, 2019 by NoDealsHere
Source: Use your common sense! (enough is enough)
Some users don't want to learn, some other simply ignore advises.
But please follow the following guideline:


To make it short: ALWAYS USE YOUR COMMON SENSE IF POSTING!
If you don't have common sense, don't post.


More specifically:

For new threads:


a) Good, meaningful title:
The title has to say what the problem is about in best way possible.
If that title occured already, it's definitely bad. And contest names aren't good either.
That's in fact a requirement for being able to search old problems.

Examples:
Bad titles:
- "Hard"/"Medium"/"Easy" (if you find it so cool how hard/easy it is, tell it in the post and use a title that tells us the problem)
- "Number Theory" (hey guy, guess why this forum's named that way¿ and is it the only such problem on earth¿)
- "Fibonacci" (there are millions of Fibonacci problems out there, all posted and named the same...)
- "Chinese TST 2003" (does this say anything about the problem¿)
Good titles:
- "On divisors of a³+2b³+4c³-6abc"
- "Number of solutions to x²+y²=6z²"
- "Fibonacci numbers are never squares"


b) Use search function:
Before posting a "new" problem spend at least two, better five, minutes to look if this problem was posted before. If it was, don't repost it. If you have anything important to say on topic, post it in one of the older threads.
If the thread is locked cause of this, use search function.

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so that any post containing both strings "first word" and "second form".


c) Good problem statement:
Some recent really bad post was:
[quote]$lim_{n\to 1}^{+\infty}\frac{1}{n}-lnn$[/quote]
It contains no question and no answer.
If you do this, too, you are on the best way to get your thread deleted. Write everything clearly, define where your variables come from (and define the "natural" numbers if used). Additionally read your post at least twice before submitting. After you sent it, read it again and use the Edit-Button if necessary to correct errors.


For answers to already existing threads:


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The above rules will be applied from next monday (5. march of 2007).
Feel free to discuss on this here.
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Recommend number theory books
MoonlightNT   1
N 41 minutes ago by trangbui
I’m preparing AIME and USA(J)MO.
Can you recommend specifically Number theory books?
I already had intro NT of AOSP.
Thank you
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trangbui
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How Many Rooks can be Removed?
bluecarneal   10
N an hour ago by quantam13
Source: Fall 2005 Tournament of Towns Junior A-Level #3
Originally, every square of $8 \times 8$ chessboard contains a rook. One by one, rooks which attack an odd number of others are removed. Find the maximal number of rooks that can be removed. (A rook attacks another rook if they are on the same row or column and there are no other rooks between them.)

(6 points)
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quantam13
an hour ago
silk road angle chasing , perpendiculars given, equal angles wanted
parmenides51   7
N an hour ago by Rayvhs
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The altitudes of the acute-angled non-isosceles triangle $ ABC $ intersect at the point $ H $. On the segment $ C_1H $, where $ CC_1 $ is the altitude of the triangle, the point $ K $ is marked. Points $ L $ and $ M $ are the feet of perpendiculars from point $ K $ on straight lines $ AC $ and $ BC $, respectively. The lines $ AM $ and $ BL $ intersect at $ N $. Prove that $ \angle ANK = \angle HNL $.
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EGMO (geo) Radical Center Question
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N an hour ago by gulab_jamun
For this theorem, Evan says that the power of point $P$ with respect to $\omega_1$ is greater than 0 if $P$ lies between $A$ and $B$. (I've underlined it). But, I'm a little confused as I thought the power was $OP^2 - r^2$ and since $P$ is inside the circle, wouldn't the power be negative since $OP < r$?
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Frustration with Olympiad Geo
gulab_jamun   14
N an hour ago by gulab_jamun
Ok, so right now, I am doing the EGMO book by Evan Chen, but when it comes to problems, there are some that just genuinely frustrate me and I don't know how to deal with them. For example, I've spent 1.5 hrs on the second to last question in chapter 2, and used all the hints, and I still am stuck. It just frustrates me incredibly. Any tips on managing this? (or.... am I js crashing out too much?)
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Find the value
sqing   5
N 2 hours ago by sqing
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Let $ a,b $ be real numbers such that $ (a^2 + b^2) (a + 1) (b + 1) =  a ^ 3 + b ^ 3 =2 $. Find the value of $ a b .$

Let $ a,b $ be real numbers such that $ (a^2 + b^2) (a + 1) (b + 1) = 2 $ and $ a ^ 3 + b ^ 3 = 1 $. Find the value of $ a + b .$
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sqing
Yesterday at 2:29 PM
sqing
2 hours ago
2-var inequality
sqing   0
2 hours ago
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Let $ a,b\geq  0 ,a+b+ab=2.$ Prove that
$$ (a^2+\frac{27}{5}ab+b^2)(a+1)(b+1) \leq 12 $$$$ (a^2+\frac{11}{2}ab+b^2)(a+1)(b+1) \leq 45(2-\sqrt 3) $$
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circumcenter of ARS lies on AD
Melid   1
N 2 hours ago by Acrylic3491
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In triangle $ABC$, let $D$ be a point on arc $BC$ of circle $ABC$ which doesn't contain $A$. $AD$ and $BC$ intersect at $E$. Let $P$ and $Q$ be the reflection of $E$ about to $AB$ and $AC$, respectively. $PD$ intersects $AB$ at $R$, and $QD$ intersects $AC$ at $S$. Prove that circumcenter of triangle $ARS$ lies on $AD$.
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Melid
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Acrylic3491
2 hours ago
2-var inequality
sqing   10
N 2 hours ago by sqing
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Let $ a,b> 0 ,a^3+ab+b^3=3.$ Prove that
$$ (a+b)(a+1)(b+1) \leq 8$$$$ (a^2+b^2)(a+1)(b+1) \leq 8$$Let $ a,b> 0 ,a^3+ab(a+b)+b^3=3.$ Prove that
$$ (a+b)(a+1)(b+1) \leq \frac{3}{2}+\sqrt[3]{6}+\sqrt[3]{36}$$
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sqing
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Inspired by Czech-Polish-Slovak 2024
sqing   1
N 3 hours ago by sqing
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Let $ a,b,c\geq 0, (a+1)(b+ c )=2025.$ Prove that$$ a+b^2+c\geq \frac{355}{4}$$Let $ a,b,c\geq 0, (a-1)(b+ c )=2025.$ Prove that$$ a+b^2+c\geq \frac{364}{4}$$Let $ a,b,c\geq 0, (a+ 1)(b- c )=2025.$ Prove that$$ a+b^2+c\geq \frac{135 \sqrt[3]{90}-2}{2}$$
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sqing
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FE i created on bijective function with x≠y
benjaminchew13   8
N 3 hours ago by benjaminchew13
Source: own (probably)
Find all bijective functions $f:\mathbb{R}\to \mathbb{R}$ such that $$(x-y)f(x+f(f(y)))=xf(x)+f(y)^{2}$$for all $x,y\in \mathbb{R}$ such that $x\neq y$.
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Sum of divisors
Kimchiks926   3
N 3 hours ago by math-olympiad-clown
Source: Baltic Way 2022, Problem 17
Let $n$ be a positive integer such that the sum of its positive divisors is at least $2022n$. Prove that $n$ has at least $2022$ distinct prime factors.
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Kimchiks926
Nov 12, 2022
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3 hours ago
Find the number of interesting numbers
WakeUp   13
N 3 hours ago by mathematical-forest
Source: China TST 2011 - Quiz 1 - D1 - P3
A positive integer $n$ is known as an interesting number if $n$ satisfies
\[{\  \{\frac{n}{10^k}} \} > \frac{n}{10^{10}} \]
for all $k=1,2,\ldots 9$.
Find the number of interesting numbers.
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WakeUp
May 19, 2011
mathematical-forest
3 hours ago
AIME qual outside US?
daijobu   11
N Today at 2:59 AM by CatCatHead
Can students outside the US take the AIME if they earn a qualifying score?
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daijobu
Friday at 7:10 PM
CatCatHead
Today at 2:59 AM
Inequality on a Quartic
patrickhompe   136
N Apr 25, 2025 by Ilikeminecraft
Source: USAMO 2014, Problem 1
Let $a$, $b$, $c$, $d$ be real numbers such that $b-d \ge 5$ and all zeros $x_1, x_2, x_3,$ and $x_4$ of the polynomial $P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d$ are real. Find the smallest value the product $(x_1^2+1)(x_2^2+1)(x_3^2+1)(x_4^2+1)$ can take.
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Apr 25, 2025
Inequality on a Quartic
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Assume the roots of the polynomial $P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d$ are $\alpha  ,\beta  ,\gamma  ,\delta.$ we have $\boxed{b-d \ge 5}.$ we have to find the value of $$\boxed{(\alpha^2+1)(\beta^2+1)(\gamma^2+1)(\delta^2+1)=\prod_{cyc}{}[(\alpha+i)(\alpha-i)]_{min}}$$Putting the $i$ and $-i$ in given equation we get since they ask the minimum value then have $d \ge b-5\implies \boxed{d_{min}=b-5}$ $$\boxed{\prod_{cyc}{}(\alpha+i)=1-ai-b-ci+d}$$$$\boxed{\prod_{cyc}{}(\alpha-i)=1+ai-b-ci+d}$$Multiply these we get $$\prod_{cyc}{}(\alpha+i)(\alpha-i)=(1-b+d)^2+(a-c)^2\ge (5-1)^2=16.$$therefore we get $$\boxed{\prod_{cyc}{}(\alpha+i)(\alpha-i)\ge 16}$$is the correct answer!!!!!

Vietas Relation!!!!!!!!! :love:
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Write
\begin{align*}
    \prod_{n=1}^4(1+x_n^2)&=\prod_{n=1}^4(i-x_n)(-i-x_n)\\
    &=P(i)P(-i)\\
    &=(1-b+d)^2+(a-c)^2\\
    &\ge\boxed{16},
\end{align*}with equality at $P(x)=(x-1)^4$ where $b-d=5$ and $x_1=x_2=x_3=x_4=1$. $\square$
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$$\prod_{\text{cyc}}(x_{1}^{2}+1)=\prod_{\text{cyc}}(x_{1}+i)(x_{1}-i)=P(i)P(-i)$$$$P(i)P(-i)=(1-b+d+(c-a)i)(1-b+d-(c-a)i)=(1-(b-d))^2+(c-a)^2$$To minimize $(1-(b-d))^2$ let $b-d=5$ and set $c=a$ to get a minimum of $4^{2}=16$ with equality at $p(x)=(x-1)^4$
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I claim that the minimum value is $\boxed{16}$, when $x_1 = x_2 = x_3 = x_4 = 1$.

By Vieta's formulas we have that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{sym} x_1^2 &= a^2 - 2b \\
\sum_{sym} x_1^2x_2^2 &= b^2 - 2 \sum_{sym} x_1 \sum_{sym} x_1x_2x_3 = b^2 - 2ac \\
\sum_{sym} x_1^2x_2^2x_3^2 &= c^2 - 2bd \\
x_1^2x_2^2x_3^2x_4^2 &= d^2 \\
\end{align*}Therefore if we expand our desired product, we obtain \[(a - c)^2 + (b - d)(b - d - 2) + 1 \geq 0^2 + 5(3) + 1 = 16. \blacksquare\]
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$(x_1^2+1)(x_2^2+1)(x_3^2+1)(x_4^2+1)=(x_1-i)(x_2-i)(x_3-i)(x_4-i)(x_1+i)(x_2+i)(x_3+i)(x_4+i)=P(i)P(-i)=((1-b+d)+i(-a+c))((1-b+d)-i(-a+c))=(1-b+d)^2+(-a+c)^2 \ge 16+(c-a)^2 \ge \boxed{16}$
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We can rewrite the expression, we are trying to find the minimum of as:
\begin{align*}
\prod_{j=1}^{4}(x_j+i)(x_j-i)&=P(i)\cdot P(-i)\\
&=(1-ai-b+ci+d)(1+ai-b-ci+d)\\
&=(1-b-d)^2+(a-c)^2\\
&\geq (b+d-1)^2\\
&\geq 16\\
\end{align*}We therefore claim the minimum is $16$. For a construction, let $x_1=x_2=x_3=x_4=1$, resulting in $b-d=6-1\geq 5$, so it works.
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Consider the polynomial $Q$ whose roots are the squares of that of $P$. It can be easily seen that $$Q(x) = x^4 + (2b-a^2)t^3 + (b^2 + 2d - 2ac)t^2 + (2bd - c^2)t + d^2.$$Putting in $x = -1$, $$Q(-1) = 1 + a^2 - 2b + b^2 + 2d - 2ac + c^2 -2bd + d^2$$$$=(a-c)^2 + (b-d-1)^2.$$Clearly $(a-c)^2 \ge 0$, and $(b-d-1)^2 \ge 4^2 = 16$. Therefore $(x_1^2+1)(x_2^2+1)(x_3^2+1)(x_4^2+1) \ge 16$, and since $P(x) = (x+1)^4$ works, the answer is in fact $\boxed{16}$. $\square$
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We want to find the minimal value for $A = (x_1^2 + 1)(x_2^2 + 1)(x_3^2 + 1)(x_4^2 + 1) = x_1^2x_2^2x_3^2x_4^2 + x_1^2x_2^2x_3^2 + x_1^2x_2^2x_4^2 + x_1^2x_3^2x_4^2 + x_2^2x_3^2x_4^2 + x_1^2x_2^2 + x_1^2x_3^2 + x_1^2x_4^2 + x_2^2x_3^2 + x_2^2x_4^2 + x_3^2x_4^2 + x_1^2 + x_2^2 + x_3^2 + x_4^2 + 1$. Now by Vieta's we get that $x_1 + x_2 + x_3 + x_4 = -a$, $x_1x_2 + x_1x_3 + x_1x_4 + x_2x_3 + x_2x_4 + x_3x_4 = b$, $x_1x_2x_3 + x_1x_2x_4 + x_1x_3x_4 + x_2x_3x_4 = -c$, $x_1x_2x_3x_4 = d$. By all that we get $x_1^2 + x_2^2 + x_3^2 + x_4^2 = a^2 - 2b$, $x_1^2x_2^2 + x_1^2x_3^2 + x_1^2x_4^2 + x_2^2x_3^2 + x_2^2x_4^2 + x_3^2x_4^2 = b^2 - 2ac$, $x_1^2x_2^2x_3^2 + x_1^2x_2^2x_4^2 + x_1^2x_3^2x_4^2 + x_2^2x_3^2x_4^2 = c^2 - 2bd$, $x_1^2x_2^2x_3^2x_4^2 = d^2$. Now we get that $A = d^2 + c^2 - 2bd + b^2 - 2ac + a^2 - 2b + 1 = (a - c)^2 + (b - d)(b - d - 2) + 1 \geq 0^2 + 5.3 + 1 = 16$, which is achievable when $x_1 = x_2 = x_3 = x_4 = 1$ $\Rightarrow$ $A \geq 16$, and for A = 16 exists an example $\Rightarrow$ the answer is 16.
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gladIasked
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The answer is $16$, given by $P(x) = (x+1)^4$.

Notice that$$(x_1^2+1)(x_2^2+1)(x_3^2+1)(x_4^2+1)=(x_1+i)(x_1-i)(x_2+i)(x_2-i)(x_2+i)(x_2-i)(x_2+i)(x_2-i).$$Clearly $P(x) = (x_1 - x)(x_2-x)(x_3-x)(x_4-x)$ so the RHS of the equation above is $P(i)P(-i)$. We have $P(i)P(-i) = (b-d-1)^2 + (a-c)^2 \ge 4^2 = 16.$ $\blacksquare$
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mathboy282
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Observe that $x^2+1=x^2-(-1)=x^2-i^2=(x-i)(x+i).$ Now, notice that:\[\prod_{k=1} ^4 (x_k-i)(x_k+i)=\prod_{k=1}^4(x_k-i)\cdot\prod_{k=1}^4(x_k+i).\]The definition of $P(x)$ is $(x-x_1)(x-x_2)(x-x_3)(x-x_4)$ where the leading coeffecient is $1$ since $P$ is a monic polynomial as given in the problem. Then, substituting in $i,$ we have:\[P(i)=(i-x_1)\cdots(i-x_4)=(-1)^4(x_1-i)\cdots(x_4-i).\]This is exactly our first product. Our second product can be found as follows:\[P(-i)=(-i-x_1)\cdots(-i-x_4)=(-1)^4(x_1+i)\cdots(x_4+i).\]Hence, what we want to find is $P(i)P(-i).$ But substituting in $i$ into our expressoin $x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d$ gets us $P(i)=(1-b+d)+(c-a)i,$ and $P(-i)=(1-b+d)+(a-c)i.$ Hence:\[P(i)P(-i)=((1-b+d)+(c-a)i)((1-b+d)+(a-c)i)=(1-b+d)^2-(a-c)^2=(-1)^2(b-d-1)^2-(a-c)^2 \ge 4^2 -0^2=16\]where equality holds at $a=c$ and $b-d=5 \Rightarrow b=d+5.$ Hence, the minimum is $\boxed{16}.$

To finish this off we find a construction for this minimum. We know that $a=c$ and $b=d+5.$ Hence\[P(x)=x^4+cx^3+(d+5)x^2+cx+d.\]We set $d=1$ to get as much symmetry as possible within our polynomial. This leads to $x^4+cx^3+6x^2+cx+1.$ However, note that $\binom{4}{2}=6$ and $\binom{4}{0}=\binom{4}{4}=1,$ so with some wishful thinking this leads us to think about the binomial theorem. We can try $(x\pm 1)^4$ and realize that those solutions do work.

Hence, $16$ is obtained when all of $x_i$ are equal to $1$ or all equal to $-1.$
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cappucher
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We claim the minimum value that the product

\[\prod_{k = 1}^{4} (x_k^2 + 1)\]
can take is $16$.

Rewrite the product as

\[\prod_{k = 1}^{4} (x_k + i)(x_k - i) = \prod_{k = 1}^{4} (x_k + i)  \prod_{k = 1}^{4} (x_k - i)\]
where $i = \sqrt{-1}$, as usual.

It suffices to find the product of the constant terms of the polynomials

\[(x + i)^4 + a(x+ i)^3 + b(x+i)^2 + c(x+i) + d\]and
\[(x - i)^4 + a(x - i)^3 + b(x-i)^2 + c(x-i) + d.\]
Calculating these yields the product

\[(1 + ai - b - ci + d)(1 - ai - b + ci + d)\]\[= (1 - (b - d))^2 + (a - c)^2\]
Since $b - d \geq 5$, we plug in $5$ as the value of $b - d$ and take $a = c$ to yield a minimum value of $4^2 = \boxed{16}$.

To show that such a polynomial with real roots and the condition $b - d = 5$ and $a = c$ exists, we present the construction $(x - 1)^4$. The given product evaluates to be $16$ in this case, $b - d = 5$, and $a = c$ as desired.
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megahertz13
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I wonder which problem came earlier, this or this? Is $2014 > 2024$ or not? This only further verifies this blog post :o.

Construction: The answer is $\boxed{16}$, achieved by $$P(x)=(x+1)^4=x^4+4x^3+6x^2+4x+1\implies (x_1^2+1)(x_2^2+1)(x_3^2+1)(x_4^2+1)=2^4=16.$$We verify that $b-d=6-1\ge 5$. Now, we prove that this is minimal.

Proof of Minimality: Notice that $(x_1^2+1)(x_2^2+1)(x_3^2+1)(x_4^2+1)$ can be written as $$(x_1^2+1)(x_2^2+1)(x_3^2+1)(x_4^2+1)=(x_1-i)(x_1+i)(x_2-i)(x_2+i)(x_3-i)(x_3+i)(x_4-i)(x_4+i)$$$$=((i-x_1)(i-x_2)(i-x_3)(i-x_4))\cdot ((-i-x_1)(-i-x_2)(-i-x_3)(-i-x_4))$$$$=P(i)P(-i)$$$$=(1-ai-b+ci+d)(1+ai-b-ci+d)$$$$=(1-b+d)^2-(ai-ci)^2$$$$=(1-(b-d))^2+(a-c)^2$$$$\ge 16+0=16,$$which finishes.
JuanOrtiz wrote:
This is a truly horrible problem :(

Only when you use Vieta's :P
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Ilikeminecraft
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I claim the answer is $\boxed{16},$ with the construction $P(x) = (1 + x)^4.$ Plugging in $x = i, -i,$ we get that $P(i)P(-i) = (1 - b + d + (c - a)i)(1 - b + d - (c - a)i),$ which simplifies to $(1 - b + d)^2 + (a - c)^2 \geq 16.$
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