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HopefullyMcNats2025

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#1 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:23 PM • 3 Y

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How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

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#2 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:31 PM • 2 Y

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HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

MOP basically guarantees MIT/harvard

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HopefullyMcNats2025

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#3 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:35 PM • 3 Y

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Not true at all

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#4 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:38 PM • 2 Y

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Pengu14 wrote:

HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

MOP basically guarantees MIT/harvard

def not true, a big portion of college apps comes from writing and literature

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#5 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:42 PM • 1 Y

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mdk2013 wrote:

Pengu14 wrote:

HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

MOP basically guarantees MIT/harvard

def not true, a big portion of college apps comes from writing and literature

While I agree MOP doesn't guarantee, your statement isn't accurate either. They say it is but it actually is only like 40% of the percent. the other 60% comes from extra-curriculars, volunteer service, your grades and your achievements.

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#6 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:43 PM • 1 Y

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Pengu14 wrote:

HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

MOP basically guarantees MIT/harvard

idk if this is true.

Mit/Harvard looks 4 science, coding, literature, etc. But if ur like a GOD at maths, aka Luke Robitaille level, you can definitely make those colleges.

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#7 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:43 PM • 1 Y

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mdk2013 wrote:

Pengu14 wrote:

HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

MOP basically guarantees MIT/harvard

def not true, a big portion of college apps comes from writing and literature

I meant it in the sense that around 95% of MOPpers get into MIT. Also, why would literature matter at all for college apps?

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#8 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:43 PM • 2 Y

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why am i writing about college apps when im not even a teen, excuse my mistakes

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#9 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:45 PM • 1 Y

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Not sure about harvard but from what I've heard its a near lock for MIT as long as your GPA isn't bad

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#10 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:46 PM • 1 Y

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Shan3t wrote:

Pengu14 wrote:

HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

MOP basically guarantees MIT/harvard

idk if this is true.

Mit/Harvard looks 4 science, coding, literature, etc. But if ur like a GOD at maths, aka Luke Robitaille level, you can definitely make those colleges.

They look for achievements and dedication in things you’re passionate about.

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#11 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:46 PM • 1 Y

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it should at the very least increase your chances by a lot
mit does value qualification for mop, and they should admit you as long as your gpa is good and nothing else is problematic (although what counts as a "good" gpa is debatable)
i've also heard that mit doesn't care that much about essays, but from how my source turned out last time take this will possibly less than a grain of salt

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#12 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:47 PM • 1 Y

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Shan3t wrote:

Pengu14 wrote:

HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

How good of an award/ achievement is making MOP, I adore comp math but am scared if I dedicate all my time to it I won’t get in a good college such as MIT or Harvard

MOP basically guarantees MIT/harvard

idk if this is true.

Mit/Harvard looks 4 science, coding, literature, etc. But if ur like a GOD at maths, aka Luke Robitaille level, you can definitely make those colleges.

Note that nearly all people who apply for MIT, Princeton, Harvard etc. who have made MOP usually apply for math or computer science and nearly all make it in, according to statistics of the MOPpers.

Edit: Also, please note that very few people are as good as Luke Robitaille, so don't use him as a comparison.

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#13 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:54 PM • 1 Y

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I would say no one aside from Evan Chen, because luke made imo gold medal in 9th and won mc 2x in a row, his achievements are unique to him mostly

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#14 h Mar 30, 2025, 11:58 PM • 1 Y

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HopefullyMcNats2025 wrote:

I would say no one aside from Evan Chen, because luke made imo gold medal in 9th and won mc 2x in a row, his achievements are unique to him mostly

dotted is also most likely going to be a 4x gold medalist

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#15 h Mar 31, 2025, 12:03 AM • 7 Y

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If you really love math competitions, you should do it regardless of whether it looks good on a college application. This is because if you end up not making MOP, you'll feel sad but rewarded by the experience overall, as opposed to only feeling sad.

But for what it's worth, making MOP is nearly a direct ticket.

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Mathandski

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#52 h Mar 31, 2025, 9:34 PM • 1 Y

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idk about Harvard but from what I've seen, while MOP doesn't necessarily $\Longrightarrow$ MIT, doing math is arguably the most efficient use of time to get in MIT

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#53 h Mar 31, 2025, 9:56 PM • 1 Y

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fair but i think if ur only goal is colleges just do music competitions or smth because colleges wont think ur a big nerd and there isn't outrageous amounts of bribing/jury voting for their own students in the top competitions (which is basically the equivalent cheating like in math comps)

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cyberhacker

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#54 h Mar 31, 2025, 10:15 PM • 1 Y

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orangebear wrote:

I think the area you live in matters, For example if you are the only one in your entire school district to qualify for MOP then you'll most likely make MIT (unless your essays are dogwater), but if you go to a school where there are like 3-4 MOP qualifiers you stand out less.

on mit's website they specifically say that they look at you individually and you are not compared to anyone from your school, decision is entirely independent. some people may say that mit is lying and they just say that but i dont think a top tier college can afford to make such a big lie. and anyways mit is usually very open about admission questions, check their blogs.

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#56 h Mar 31, 2025, 11:41 PM • 1 Y

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Andyluo wrote:

over 95% of people who qualify to ivies don't make USAMO or USAJMO

I will use the above quote in this:
Correct me if I'm wrong:

A total of about 500 students qual for AMO and JMO together each year. According to this, https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2025/03/28/the-results-are-in-here-are-ivy-league-and-top-college-admissions-rates-for-the-class-of-2029/, over 8,000+ students got excepted into the Ivies this year. 8,000 is a significant underestimate I'm sure, but we will still use it for this example to prove my point for the reality of there being more students accepted into the Ivies.

Given that over 95% percent of the people who get into ivies don't make USAMO or JMO, a maximum of 5% of total admits, or 400 admits at minimum have made USAMO or JMO,

Now, 400 out of 500 or 80% sounds great to me. 80% of JMO and AMO qualifiers (approx.) get into the Ivies.

So yeah, the main takeaways are that
1. JMO/AMO is absolutely not necessary to get into ivies (95% admits don't have it)
2. JMO/AMO significantly helps you get into the ivies (80% qualifiers have got in.)

Keep in mind, that there are more than 8000 admits, so this increases the percentage in number 2.

I disagree with those who say that JMO/AMO qual is not nearly enough by itself, because these stats disprove that.
However, there is most definitely more to the application that just one accomplishment.

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#57 h Mar 31, 2025, 11:46 PM • 1 Y

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@above those last two sentences are contradictory

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#58 h Mar 31, 2025, 11:48 PM • 4 Y

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you flipped the inequality sign

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#60 h Apr 1, 2025, 1:04 AM • 1 Y

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Did anyone here get accepted from Harvard?

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#61 h Apr 1, 2025, 1:06 AM • 1 Y

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I only know 1 person or that is 2 I forgot.

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#63 h Apr 1, 2025, 2:07 AM • 1 Y

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xTimmyG wrote:

MOP is terrible for college applications. If you make MOP, you still have a high chance of being rejected from every college. My friend made MOP and got rejected from community college.

In the end, make MOP because you enjoy math.

Yeah you will get accepted with that stat unless you do something egregious...

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#64 h Apr 1, 2025, 2:33 AM • 1 Y

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jellybeanzzz wrote:

giratina3 wrote:

What I was trying to say was that most MIT students make MOP

there’s 4500 undergrads at MIT and you’re saying most of them made MOP?

oh my god bro this is so hard to say without getting flamed or roasted :skull:

dude, what I'm trying to say is that most MIT students DO some kind of math. basically all of them are JMO/AMO or MOP quals. I'm not saying ALL of them are. I'm saying most of them. Of course, duh, there are people who are EXTREMELY talented at sports get into MIT, but I'm not... bruh.. I give up

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#65 h Apr 1, 2025, 2:39 AM • 1 Y

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giratina3 wrote:

jellybeanzzz wrote:

giratina3 wrote:

What I was trying to say was that most MIT students make MOP

there’s 4500 undergrads at MIT and you’re saying most of them made MOP?

oh my god bro this is so hard to say without getting flamed or roasted :skull:

dude, what I'm trying to say is that most MIT students DO some kind of math. basically all of them are JMO/AMO or MOP quals. I'm not saying ALL of them are. I'm saying most of them. Of course, duh, there are people who are EXTREMELY talented at sports get into MIT, but I'm not... bruh.. I give up

maybe u mean most mop students make mit?

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#66 h Apr 1, 2025, 2:40 AM • 1 Y

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yes @above, it is unbelievable what can happen if I switch the two :skull: :skull:
oh crap, wait I said that shoot i'll go fix it

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#67 h Apr 1, 2025, 2:41 AM • 4 Y

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Not to be a hypocrite but all of this is egregious advice considering none of y'all actually work in admissions.

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#69 h Apr 1, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Not trying to be mean but if you do math comp for college you wont get into ivy leagues, mabye 1 or 2 but Ivy Leagues, the strat is that focus on ONE TOPIC DO NOT CHANGE IT START THAT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. Pick what you want to do in 6th grade and do that for example scientists do science fair, mathematician, do math comp. Colleges like to see that you focus one one thing but you are dedicated to it and you can also perform good enough and mabye they will. MOP Qual doesn't garruntie anything and if you do it, it is for your own benefit, colleges focus more on your unique characteristics and your mood and what you do. They focus on your achievements that you focus that benefit the world and not you, for example getting 1st place doesn't gaurantee anything because if you do 6 different activities and get 3rd place state that Is worse than doing 1 thing and getting 1st place international. Attached below is a screenshot from the Harvard Website and check it out and you will learn exactly what you need to get into it. Harvard isn't the only school there are many other good colleges like Stanford, Duke, and many more. Just pour all your hard work into focusing on the thing that you love a lot. This is a prove trick which someone I know I can not say there name because of personal reasons, got into every Ivy League college and waitlisted from Harvard.

bro what ur acting like you already graduated ur in 6th grade middle school and high school is a time for exploration not relentless grinding achievements like your life is gonna end if you don't get into a good college

Who said I am 6th grade? what if I amn't what if I am actually in college what if I am in 2nd grade. :diablo:

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#70 h Apr 1, 2025, 10:49 PM

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u said u were in 6th grade

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