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Let $k$ be a real number such that the system \begin{align*} &|25+20i-z|=5\\ &|z-4-k|=|z-3i-k| \\ \end{align*}has exactly one complex solution $z.$ The sum of all possible values of $k$ can be written as $\dfrac{m}{n},$ where $m$ and $n$ are relatively prime positive integers. Find $m+n.$ Here $i=\sqrt{-1}.$
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Let $k$ be a real number such that the system \begin{align*} &|25+20i-z|=5\\ &|z-4-k|=|z-3i-k| \\ \end{align*}has exactly one complex solution $z.$ The sum of all possible values of $k$ can be written as $\dfrac{m}{n},$ where $m$ and $n$ are relatively prime positive integers. Find $m+n.$ Here $i=\sqrt{-1}.$
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Reason: think this was how it was aligned on the test
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I got 73/4 —> 77
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First equation is circle with center $(25, 20)$ and radius $5$, second equation is perpendicular bisector of line through $(4+k, 0)$ and $(k, 3)$. This is $y - 1.5 = \frac 43 (x - (2 + k))$. Now notice we want this line to be tangent to the circle. There are two such lines, symmetric across $(25,20)$. Plugging this point in gives $k = \frac{73}{8}$ so the answer is $\frac{73}{4} \implies \boxed{077}$.
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i forgor the geometric interpretation :blush:
and did perhaps the ugliest bash of my life
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Clean solution that requires next to no insight
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Who else though the circle is centered at (25,-20) and put 317
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I put 73/8 after bashing for 20 min
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I got the insight but then I totally screwed up after that :(
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Elephant200 wrote:
I got the insight but then I totally screwed up after that :(

same :(
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This bash took me 30 MINUTES

stupid vietabash

still got it right -> 73/4 -> 77.
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Let $z=x+yi, (x-(4+k))^2+y^2=(x-k)^2+(y-3)^2$, which simplifies to $8x-6y-8k-7=0$

Now we want this line's distance to $(25,20)$ is $5$ since the first expression is a circle centered at $(25,20)$ with radius $5$, so $\frac{|73-8k|}{10}=5, k=\frac{23}{8}, \frac{123}{8}$, sum up to $\frac{73}{4}\implies \boxed{077}$
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Oops I forgot to subtract 4 :sob:
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Didn’t simplify the fraction , put 154 :)

The key idea is to interpret the problem geometrically. The first equation says that z lies on a circle with radius 5 centered at $(25,20)$ and the second equation says that z lies on the perpendicular bisector of (k+4,0) and (k,3). The perpendicular bisector of this line has slope 4/3. We want only one solution for z, so we are simply looking for the lines tangent to the circle with slope 4/3. Once we have these two lines, it must pass through $(k+2, \frac{3}{2})$. Solve and sum the values of k to get $\frac{146}{8}$ (:sob:) $=\frac{73}{4} \rightarrow \boxed{77}$
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don't enjoy the amount of computation in this problem
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Bashing time

Let $z = a + bi$. Then our equations become

\[(25 - a)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]\[(a - 4 - k)^2 + b^2 = (a - k)^2 + (b - 3)^2\]
We expand out the second equation:

\[a^2 + 16 + k^2 - 8a - 2ak + 8k + b^2 = a^2 - 2ak + k^2 + b^2 - 6b + 9\]\[16 - 8a  + 8k = -6b + 9\]\[a = \frac{8k + 7 + 6b}{8}\]
We now plug this into the first equation:

\[\left(25 - \frac{8k + 7 + 6b}{8}\right)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]\[\left(\frac{193}{8} - k - \frac{3}{4}b\right)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]
Let $v = \frac{193}{8} - k$ to simplify calculations.

\[\left(v - \frac{3}{4}b\right)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]\[v^2 - \frac{3}{2}bv + \frac{9}{16}b^2 + 400 - 40b + b^2 = 25\]\[\frac{25}{16}b^2 - b\left(\frac{3}{2}v + 40\right) + (v^2 + 375)\]
In order for there to be exactly one solution for $z$, the discriminant of this quadratic must be $0$:

\[\left(\frac{3}{2}v + 40\right)^2 - 4\left(\frac{25}{16}\right)\left(v^2 + 375\right) = 0\]
Since we are asked for the sum of all $k$, we just use Vieta's relations on this quadratic.

\[\frac{9}{4}v^2 + 120v + 1600 - \frac{25}{4}v^2 - 4\left(\frac{25}{16}\right)\left(375\right) = 0\]\[-4v^2 + 120v + c = 0\]
We can ignore the constant term because it's irrelevant to the sum of the roots. Since we have $v_1 + v_2 = 30$, we conclude that

\[2\left(\frac{193}{8}\right) - (k_1 + k_2) = 30\]\[k_1 + k_2 = \frac{73}{4}\]
So the answer is $73 + 4 = \boxed{77}$.
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Algebraic non-bash solution

The first equation implies
$$z-k=(25-5\cos(a)-k)+(20-5\sin(a))i$$for some real $a.$ Then, let $z-k=x+yi.$ By the second equation,
$$(x-4)^2+y^2=x^2+(y-3)^2$$which simplifies to
$$8x=6y+7.$$Plugging in the real parts for $x$ and $y,$ we have
$$200-40\cos(a)-8k=127+7-30\sin(a).$$This means that
$$73-8k=40\cos(a)-30\sin(a).$$Dividing both sides by $50,$ we have
$$\dfrac{73-8k}{50}=\dfrac{4}{5}\cos(a)-\dfrac{3}{5}\sin(a).$$Let $m$ be an angle such that $\cos(m)=\frac{4}{5}$ and $\sin(m)=\frac{3}{5}.$ Recognizing the cosine angle addition formula, we have
$$\dfrac{73-8k}{50}=\cos(a+m).$$This has one solution for $a$ precisely when
$$\dfrac{73-8k}{50}=\pm 1,$$and simple algebra gets the answer
$$k=\dfrac{73\pm 50}{8}\implies \dfrac{73-50+73+50}{8}=\dfrac{73}{4}\implies\boxed{077}.$$
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Rip, i put $146+8=154$
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You can use calculus to solve this problem.
If we let $z=a+bi$, expanding/simplifying the system, we get
$$(25-a)^2+(20-b)^2=25$$$$-8a+8k+6b+7=0$$It's worthwhile to note, this boils down to observing where a tangent line occurs on the circle with slope $\frac{4}{3}$. If we let $25-a=x$ and $20-b=y$, using implicit differentiation on the circle, we get
$$ 2x + 2y (y') = 0 $$Solving for $y'$, we get
$$ \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{-x}{y} = \frac{4}{3}$$If we substitute the derivative into the circle equation, we will get the solutions $(x,y) = (-4,3)$ and $(4,-3)$. Do not forget we sub $x$ and $y$ for $a$ and $b$, so the points $(a,b)$ are $(29,17)$ and $(21, 23)$. If we plug it into the tangent line equation, and solve for $k$ for both, we get
$$ \frac{8(50)-6(40)-14}{8} = \frac{146}{8} = \frac{73}{4} => 73 + 4 = \boxed{077} $$
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this problem almost cooked my score :wallbash_red:
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Bash is not bad, especially if you eliminate fractions

Let $z = a + bi$. We have $(a-25)^2 + (b-20)^2 = 25$ and $(a - 4 - k)^2 + b^2 = (a - k)^2 + (b - 3)^2$.

The second equation can be easily simplified (through expansion or difference of squares) as \[ 6b = 8a - (8k + 7) \]
Now let $x = 8k + 7$.

The first equation becomes $a^2 - 50a + b^2 - 40b  + 1000 = 0$, or \[ 36a^2 - 1800a + (6b)^2 - 240(6b) + 36000 = 0 \]
Setting $6b = 8a - x$ gives that the LHS is equal to \[ 36a^2 - 1800a + (8a)^2 - 16xa + x^2 - 1920a + 240x + 36000\]
This can be rewritten as \[ 100a^2 - (16x + 3720) a + x^2 + 240x + 36000\]There is one solution iff the discriminant is $0$, so $x$ works iff \[ (16x + 3720)^2 = 400(x^2 + 240x + 36000),\]or \[ (4x + 930)^2 = 25(x^2 + 240x + 36000)\]If $x$ is an integer divisible by $4$, then taking modulo $8$ gives a contradiction. Thus, if $x$ is an integer, $4\nmid x$.

The sum of the roots (counting double roots twice) of this is just $\frac{8 \cdot 930 - 25 \cdot 240 }{9} = \frac{8 \cdot 310 - 25 \cdot 80}{3} = 160$. Since $4$ doesn't divide any root, there is not a double root, and therefore the sum of all possible values of $k$ is just \[ \frac{160 - 2 \cdot 7}{8} = \frac{73}{4} \implies \boxed{077} \]
(note: one can also just compute the roots to be $30$ and $130$)
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Bruh $x= a+bi,$ then $(a-(4+k))^{2}+b^{2} = (a-k)^{2}+(b-3i)^{2},$ which becomes $8k+7 = 8a-6b.$ Then, $c = 20-a,$ $d = 20-d,$ and then $8k+7 =80-8c+6d,$ and $(-8c+6d)^{2} \le (8^{2}+6^{2})(25)$ by Cauchy, then $-50 \le -8c+6d \le 50,$ so $30 \le 8k+7 \le 130,$ giving a final answer of $\frac{73}{4} \implies \boxed{073}.$

EDIT: yeah I got $77.$ Typo lol
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The perpendicular bisector of $(k+4,0)$ and $(k,3)$ is $8x-6y=8k+7$.

Note that $8(25)-6(20)=80$.

Therefore, we want $\frac{|8k+7-80|}{\sqrt{8^2+6^2}}=5$, or $|8k-73|=50$.

Therefore, the sum of all possible values of $k$ is $\frac{73}{8}\cdot 2=\frac{73}4$ and the answer is $73+4=\boxed{077}$.
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Happyllamaalways
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Anyone else did this with calculus? :skull:
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I accidently multiplied by $2$ again and got $\dfrac{73}{2}$ :sob:
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ilikemath247365
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cappucher wrote:
Bashing time

Let $z = a + bi$. Then our equations become

\[(25 - a)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]\[(a - 4 - k)^2 + b^2 = (a - k)^2 + (b - 3)^2\]
We expand out the second equation:

\[a^2 + 16 + k^2 - 8a - 2ak + 8k + b^2 = a^2 - 2ak + k^2 + b^2 - 6b + 9\]\[16 - 8a  + 8k = -6b + 9\]\[a = \frac{8k + 7 + 6b}{8}\]
We now plug this into the first equation:

\[\left(25 - \frac{8k + 7 + 6b}{8}\right)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]\[\left(\frac{193}{8} - k - \frac{3}{4}b\right)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]
Let $v = \frac{193}{8} - k$ to simplify calculations.

\[\left(v - \frac{3}{4}b\right)^2 + (20 - b)^2 = 25\]\[v^2 - \frac{3}{2}bv + \frac{9}{16}b^2 + 400 - 40b + b^2 = 25\]\[\frac{25}{16}b^2 - b\left(\frac{3}{2}v + 40\right) + (v^2 + 375)\]
In order for there to be exactly one solution for $z$, the discriminant of this quadratic must be $0$:

\[\left(\frac{3}{2}v + 40\right)^2 - 4\left(\frac{25}{16}\right)\left(v^2 + 375\right) = 0\]
Since we are asked for the sum of all $k$, we just use Vieta's relations on this quadratic.

\[\frac{9}{4}v^2 + 120v + 1600 - \frac{25}{4}v^2 - 4\left(\frac{25}{16}\right)\left(375\right) = 0\]\[-4v^2 + 120v + c = 0\]
We can ignore the constant term because it's irrelevant to the sum of the roots. Since we have $v_1 + v_2 = 30$, we conclude that

\[2\left(\frac{193}{8}\right) - (k_1 + k_2) = 30\]\[k_1 + k_2 = \frac{73}{4}\]
So the answer is $73 + 4 = \boxed{77}$.

Tried to do this, still failed, and put 73/8 :sob:
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Different solution:

we first let $z = a+bi$ and ignore k. Then $|(a-4)+bi|=|a+(b-3)i| \Rightarrow b=\frac{4}{3}a-\frac{7}{6}$. Now let's consider an a-b plane. $|25+20i-z|=5$ is another way of saying that a point on the line $-z$, transformed 25 units to the right and 20 units up, lies on the circle with radius 5 centered at the origin. Since $-z$ is linear, the fact that there is only one and only one solution to $z$ means that the line $-z$ is tangent to the circle. But $-z$ is the graph of $z$ rotated around the origin by 180 degrees, so $-z$ also has slope $\frac43$. Thus, the tangency points are $(-4,3)$ and$ (4,-3)$. transform these points back to their original positions, and we get $(-29,-17)$ and $(-21,23)$. But the a-coordinates of the intersection of $-z=\frac43a+\frac76$ with $y=-17$ and $y=-23$ is $-\frac{109}8, -\frac{145}8$, which is a contradiction. Now let's consider k. The added $-k$ in $|z-4-k|=|z-3i-k|$ means that $-z$ is moved $k$ units to the left. thus, $k =-\frac{145}8 + 23$ or $-\frac{109}8 + 17$, which gives $k_1=\frac{23}8$, $k_2=\frac{123}8 \Rightarrow k_1+k_2=\frac{73}4 \Rightarrow$ the answer is $73 + 4 = \boxed{077}$.


In this graph, $k_1=A'D$, $k_2=B'C$.
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Happyllamaalways wrote:
Anyone else did this with calculus? :skull:

Nope but I spent to much time but got the answer of $\boxed{077}$
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zhoujef000 wrote:
Let $k$ be a real number such that the system \begin{align*} |25+20i-z|&=5\\ |z-4-k|&=|z-3i-k| \\ \end{align*}has exactly one complex solution $z.$ The sum of all possible values of $k$ can be written as $\dfrac{m}{n},$ where $m$ and $n$ are relatively prime positive integers. Find $m+n.$ Here $i=\sqrt{-1}.$

Write $z=x+yi$. We have:
$$5^2=|(25-x)+(20-y)i|^2=(25-x)^2+(20-y)^2=(x-25)^2+(y-20)^2$$and
$$|(x-4-k)+yi|^2=|(x-k)+(y-3)i|^2\Rightarrow(x-4-k)^2+y^2=(x-k)^2+(y-3)^2.$$Rearranging the second equation, we have $y=\frac43x-\frac{8k+7}6$.
-8k-7)/6

The equation $(x-25)^2+(y-20)^2=5^2$ can be interpreted geometrically to mean that $(x,y)$ lies on a circle in the Cartesian plane with center $(25,20)$ and radius $5$, while the equation $y=\frac43x-\frac43k-\frac76$ can be interpreted to mean that $(x,y)$ lies on a line in the Cartesian plane with slope $\frac43$ and a height that is based on $k$.

For this system to have exactly one solution, the line must intersect the circle at exactly one point, i.e. the line must be tangent to the circle.

Solution 1:
The radius that intersects the point of tangency must then be perpendicular to the line $y=\frac43x-\frac43k-\frac76$, so it must have slope $-\frac34$. Since the radius goes through the center of the circle, it lies on $y=-\frac34x+\frac{155}4$. The intersection of the line $y=-\frac34x+\frac{155}4$ with the circle yields the two possible points of tangency. To find these, we substitute into the equation of the circle:
\begin{align*}
(x-25)^2+\left(-\frac34x+\frac{155}4-20\right)^2&=25\\
(4x-100)^2+(-3x+75)^2&=400\\
16x^2-800x+10000+9x^2-450x+5625&=400\\
x^2-50x+609&=0\\
x&=25\pm4\\
y&=-\frac34x+\frac{155}4=20\mp3
\end{align*}Therefore, after rearranging $y=\frac43x-\frac43k-\frac76$ into $k=x-\frac34y-\frac78$, we get that $k$ is either:
$$k=29-\frac34\cdot17-\frac78=\frac{123}8$$or
$$k=21-\frac34\cdot23-\frac78=\frac{23}8$$so the sum of these is $\frac{146}8=\frac{73}4\Rightarrow\boxed{077}$.
alternate finish
[asy]
import graph;

size(400);
real r = 5;

draw((0,0)--(50,0), Arrow);
draw((0,0)--(0,40), Arrow);

label("$x$", (50, 0), NE);
label("$y$", (0, 40), NE);

draw(Circle((25,20), r));
dot((25,20));
label(scale(0.9)*"$(25,20)$", (25,20), NNE);

draw((3,36.5)--(47,3.5),Arrows);
label("$y=-\frac34x+\frac{155}4$",(46,4.25),NE);

dot((29,17));
label(scale(0.9)*"$(29,17)$",(25+4*r/5,-3*r/5+20),E);
dot((21,23));
label(scale(0.9)*"$(21,23)$",(25-4*r/5,3*r/5+20),W);

draw((6,3)--(31.5,37),Arrows);
label(scale(0.9)*"$k=\frac{23}8$",(31.5,37),NE);
draw((18.5,3)--(37,83/3),Arrows);
label(scale(0.9)*"$k=\frac{123}8$",(37,83/3),NE);

label(scale(0.9)*"$y=\frac43x-\frac43k-\frac76$",(12.27,3));
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Solution 2:
Let the two possible points of tangency on the circle be $(x_1,y_1)$ and $(x_2,y_2)$. Note that the midpoint of these is the center of the circle, $(25,20)$, so $\left(\frac{x_1+y_1}2,\frac{x_2+y_2}2\right)=(25,20)$, that is, $x_1+x_2=50$ and $y_1+y_2=40$. Then the sum of the possible values for $k$ will be:
\begin{align*}
k_1+k_2&=x_1-\frac34y_1-\frac78+x_2-\frac34y_2-\frac78\\
&=(x_1+x_2)-\frac34(y_1+y_2)-\frac74\\
&=\frac{73}4\Rightarrow\boxed{077}
\end{align*}
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Wait I got 68/9, I think I got really lucky lol
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I got 73/4, and also got 077 for q10 so I changed changed my answer.
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Let $z = x + yi$, and the system can be transformed into this:

$$
\begin{cases}
x^2 + y^2 - 50x - 40y + 1000 = 0 \\
y = \dfrac{4}{3} x - \dfrac{8k + 7}{6}
\end{cases}
$$
It has 1 solution, so we want the line to be tangent to the circle, so we get $(x, y) = (21, 23), (29, 17)$. Plugging these into the second equation, and we get $k_1 = 23/8, k_2 = 123/8$. So the answer is $k_1 + k_2 = 146/8 = 73/4 \implies \boxed{77}$.
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orz question
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I have no idea how I got this question right in the first place, but when I got #10 as 077 aswell I changed my answer to 047 on #8 bc I got that before.
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