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Find the sum of all integer bases $b>9$ for which $17_b$ is a divisor of $97_b.$
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Find the sum of all integer bases $b>9$ for which $17_b$ is a divisor of $97_b.$
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21 and 49 --> 070?
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$b + 7 \mid 9b + 7 \implies b + 7 \mid -56$ so $b = 21, 49 \implies \boxed{070}$.
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$9b+7 \equiv 0~(\text{mod }b+7) \implies 9b+7 - 9(b+7) \equiv 0~(\text{mod } b+7) \implies -56 \equiv 0~(\text{mod } b+7) \implies b = 21, 49 \implies \boxed{070}$
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QuelFromage wrote:
$9b+7 \equiv 0~(\text{mod }b+7) \implies 9b+7 - 9(b+7) \equiv 0~(\text{mod } b+7) \implies -56 \equiv 0~(\text{mod } b+7) \implies b = 21, 49 \implies \boxed{070}$

I forgot how to modulo so I spent a ton of time looking for other sols until I realized it was just 70.
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I did Simon's factoring trick lol
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$b+7|9b+7$ so $b+7|8b$ so let $k(b+7)=8b$ and check $k<8$ to find $21+49=\boxed{070}$
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Let a = b+7 and then you find that b+7 | 56 so only b = 21 and b= 49 work when b>9. Therefore, 21 + 40 = 070.
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Did anyone use polynomial division to get 9-\frac{56}{b+7}. Then b+7=28, and b+7 =56. I forgot all the rules of divisibility lol.
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darkgrimoire wrote:
Did anyone use polynomial division to get 9-\frac{56}{b+7}. Then b+7=28, and b+7 =56. I forgot all the rules of divisibility lol.

yea thats what i did
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Did anyone use polynomial division to get $9-\frac{56}{b+7}$. Then b+7=28, and b+7 =56. I forgot all the rules of divisibility lol.
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Notice that we have $$7b+9\equiv 0\pmod {b+9}\implies 56\equiv 0\pmod {b+9}.$$Now by inspection, $b=21$ and $b=49$ are the only solutions. This yields the answer $\boxed{070}$.
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Easy things give $b+7|56$. Thus, the possible values greater than $9$ are $14, 28, 56$.

1 hour later

Oh wait, forgot to subtract $7$ hahaha
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Fakesolve that gives right answer:

$b + 7 \mid 9b + 7\implies b + 7 \mid 9b$ (this is wrong but it's what i did), so $b + 7 \mid 63$. Thus, $b \in \{14,56\}$, so the answer is $\boxed{070}$.
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Fakesolve that gives right answer:

$b + 7 \mid 9b + 7\implies b + 7 \mid 9b$ (this is wrong but it's what i did), so $b + 7 \mid 63$. Thus, $b \in \{14,56\}$, so the answer is $\boxed{070}$.

so lucky lol
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$b+7\mid 9b+7\iff b+7 \mid 56$, so $b = 21, 49$.Therefore the answer is $\boxed{70}$.
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ez it is 70
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b+7 divides 9b+7
b-49 divides b+7
b+7 divides 56
b=21, b=49
070
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$\frac{9b+7}{b+7}$ has to be an integer
Notice that we can rewrite $9b+7$ as $9(b+7)-56$
$$\frac{9b+7}{b+7}=\frac{9(b+7)-56}{b+7}=\frac{9(b+7)}{b+7}+\frac{-56}{b+7}$$Because $\frac{9(b+7)}{b+7}=9$, we just need to make sure $\frac{-56}{b+7}$ is an integer.

The only factors of 56 that satisfy $b>9$, $b+7=28$, $b+7=56$
$$b=21, b=49$$$$49+21=70$$$$\fbox{70}$$
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$b+7\mid 9b+7\iff b+7 \mid 56$, so $b = 21, 49$.Therefore the answer is $\boxed{70}$.

yeah this is what i got. wrote almost nothing down
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9b+7 is divisible by b+7, so 9b+7 - 9(b+7) will still be divisible by b+7, so -56 is divisible by b+7. we first try -56-7=-49, so one b possibility could be 49. 49-7=42, 42/2 = 21, 21 is another possibility. 21-7=14, 14/2 = 7, which is less than 9, so we only have 21 and 49, giving us 70.
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We want $(b+7)|(9b+7)$ so $(b+7)|56$ so the answer is $(56-7)+(28-7)=49+21=\boxed{070}$.
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$17_b$ dividing $97_b$ means that $b+7\mid 9b+7$, and note that $9b+7=9(b+7)-56$, so $b+7\mid 56$. Then $b$ could be $21$ or $49$ which means $\boxed{070}$.

remarks: while mocking this i had a worse solution (bounding based on value of $\tfrac{9b+7}{b+7}$ WHICH WORKS THOUGH) and it takes about the same amount of time (:
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if you do not know any number theory:

By the definition of a divisor, $(b+7)k = 9b+7$ for an integer $k$. Clearly $k \ge 9$ does not work. So now we can just try every single value.


$b+7=9b+7$ no
$2b+14=9b+7$ gives $7b=7$ which doesn't work
$3b+21=9b+7$ gives $6b=14$ which doesn't work
$4b+28=9b+7$ gives $5b=21$ which doesn't work
$5b+35=9b+7$ gives $4b=28$ which doesn't work
$6b+42=9b+7$ gives $3b=35$ which doesn't work
$7b+49=9b+7$ gives $2b=42$ which does work
$8b+56=9b+7$ gives $1b=49$ which does work


Hence our answer is $21+49=\boxed{70}$.
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LMFAO this is what I thought p1 was gonna be: What is the sum of all $n$ for which $15_{n}$ divides $2025_{n}$?
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LMFAO this is what I thought p1 was gonna be: What is the sum of all $n$ for which $15_{n}$ divides $2025_{n}$?

that might be hard
uh (n+5) divides $2n^3+2n+5$
is that even factorable
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pog wrote:
if you do not know any number theory:

By the definition of a divisor, $(b+7)k = 9b+7$ for an integer $k$. Clearly $k \ge 9$ does not work. So now we can just try every single value.


$b+7=9b+7$ no
$2b+14=9b+7$ gives $7b=7$ which doesn't work
$3b+21=9b+7$ gives $6b=14$ which doesn't work
$4b+28=9b+7$ gives $5b=21$ which doesn't work
$5b+35=9b+7$ gives $4b=28$ which doesn't work
$6b+42=9b+7$ gives $3b=35$ which doesn't work
$7b+49=9b+7$ gives $2b=42$ which does work
$8b+56=9b+7$ gives $1b=49$ which does work


Hence our answer is $21+49=\boxed{70}$.

thats what i did too
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by the fundamental theory of number theory, the answer must start with an even number. then, guess and check values of b, to get 21+49=70
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+1 for guess and check its really the only good way to solve this problem. I did all values up to 187 just to be sure.
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Mr.Sharkman wrote:
LMFAO this is what I thought p1 was gonna be: What is the sum of all $n$ for which $15_{n}$ divides $2025_{n}$?

that might be hard
uh (n+5) divides $2n^3+2n+5$
is that even factorable

that wouldn't be that much harder
you get $n+5|255$, and it's basically the same thing
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$$(17)_b \mid 97_b \iff b^2+7b \mid 9b^2+7b \iff b+7 \mid 8b \iff b+7 \mid 56$$.
Since $b>9$, the only possible $b$ are $b=21,49$ which satisfy.
Thus, the sum of all possible values of $b = 21+49= \boxed{070}$
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Let a = b+7 and then you find that b+7 | 56 so only b = 21 and b= 49 work when b>9. Therefore, 21 + 40 = 070.

what 21+40=61 I think you meant 49??
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I was stuck on this problem for some reason I don't know why

The best way to tackle this problem is to convert everything to variables so first 17 base b = b + 7 and 97 base b = 9b+7 so we can just make a variable when multiplied by it it equals 97 base b

So first to do that we can simplify it like 9b+7 = x(b+7) for some value of x then when we multiply that out we get 9b+7=bx+7x. Because we want to solve for xb we have to subtract that on both sides to get 9b+7-bx= 7x then in any situation like this we have to factor out the b, but first we can subtract 7 on both sides.

When we do that we get b(9-x)= 7(x-1) which when we divide both sides we get

b= (7(x-1))/(9-x) we get this easy equation to solve because we know that x has to be a single digit number because anything greater than 9 won't work so we get that after guess and check x= 7 and 8 so when we plug that in we get 21 and 49, so when we add those together you get $49+21$ $=$ $70$
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Mr.Sharkman wrote:
LMFAO this is what I thought p1 was gonna be: What is the sum of all $n$ for which $15_{n}$ divides $2025_{n}$?

that might be hard
uh (n+5) divides $2n^3+2n+5$
is that even factorable

Bruh factor theorem
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b+7 is divisible by 9b+7, but because b+7 is divisible by 9b+63, then b+7 is divisible by 56. And B+7 is greater than 7, so b=21 or 49[Click][sounds stupid but I got b+7 is divisible by 8b, and did a lot of stupid stuff to get -6+-5+-3+0+1+7+21+49=64 cause I forgot b is greater than 9, but luckily I realized this at the end.]
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Find the sum of all integer bases $b>9$ for which $17_b$ is a divisor of $97_b.$

We need $b+7\mid9b+7$, so $b+7\mid8b$. Let $8b=k(b+7)$, do casework and bounding.
If $k\le4$ then $8b\le4(b+7)$ so $b\le7$, doesn't work.
If $k=5$ then $8b=5b+35$ so $b=\frac{35}3\notin\mathbb Z$, doesn't work.
If $k=6$ then $8b=6b+42$ so $b=21$, which does work.
If $k=7$ then $8b=7b+49$ so $b=49$, which does work.
If $k\ge8$ then $8b\ge8(b+7)$ so $0\ge56$, doesn't work.
Our answer is $21+49=\boxed{070}$.
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Apple_maths60
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(97)b =9b+7
(17)b=b+7
So b+7 divides 9b+7
gcd(9b+7,b+7)=b+7
gcd(-56,b+7)=b+7
So we get b+7 divides -56
Now , 56=2*2*2*7 and factors greater than 9+7 are 28 and 56 itself
So, b=21 or 49
Sum =70(answer)
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$b+7\mid 9b+7 \Longleftrightarrow b+7\mid -56$ and we easily get $b=21, 49$.
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